people getting mad at the way she plays is hilarious, The white stripes wouldn't be the white stripes without her

@luahlu7152

Жыл бұрын

@@jackwoods535 yes but that's literally what Jack was going for

@LowTempDabr

Жыл бұрын

I know right? Jack White also wrote everything for the White Stripes. So people who don't Meg's drumming just don't like Jack's writing style/ sonic choices. They are a garage-rock band first and foremost, never forget that. (No hate to the video creator, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but man I wish you could open your mind a bit and realize Meg's drumming is the glue to this band)

Don’t you just hate it when blues and punk aren’t played by human metronomes? It’s unthinkable

Sorry for torturing you. Back when these requests were made, we didn't know how much you'd be irritated by Meg's drumming. Jack is actually a drummer himself and he taught her to play the drums because his artistic vision for the White Stripes was that he wanted that child-like, amateurish element. He's a very competent musician but loves the raw, unfiltered sound of broken pawnshop gear and nostalgia. Jack has also done a lot for the resurgence of vinyl with his Third Man Records. But it has become quite clear by now that the White Stripes don't resonate with you. 😂 Just imagine if Meg White had a band with Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart) doing atonal Frank Zappa covers.... As a side note, there is a documentary called "It Might Get Loud" where Jimmy Page, Jack White and the Edge talk about their lives and music. They even jam a bit and teach each other some iconic riffs. It's very well done and recommended viewing material for any musician. I'm convinced you'd enjoy it a lot.

@sreneethomas

2 жыл бұрын

I NEVER understood how “The Edge” made it into that documentary. I mean…my opinion but seriously?

Man, relax. Seriously.

@TimothyLafreniere

2 жыл бұрын

She is following him. That is their dynamic.

This is honestly so comedic, you should tell this to the Grammy this album won for best alterative music album and the nomination for album of the year. Also to the 100 of millions of plays The White Stripes have. Also to the sold out tours including selling out Madison Square Garden.

@abrahamesparza01

2 жыл бұрын

He just had a problem with the drums

@daaarrell15

2 жыл бұрын

What about the billion of those that haven't heard them and don't care?

@brandonb.5304

2 жыл бұрын

I love the White Stripes, but Grammys and records sold doesn't necessarily correlate to good music. There are A LOT of people who love Jack White but hate Meg White's drumming, understandably, becuase she's not very good on the drums. Obviously he can't get over that, which isn't surprising being a bass player who has a relationship with the drummer in keeping a song's tempo.

@MisTTwisted

2 жыл бұрын

Cardi B got nominated for a Grammy award for album of the year in 2019 and also she won best hip hop album of the year in 2019. Also to the billions of plays Cardi B has. She had 213 concerts in 3 years while the white stripes had 305 in 7 years. So what are we talking about here? Is Cardi B better than The White Stripes by your logic? All this stuff about awards and selling tickets... Don't get me wrong, I love The White Stripes and hate Cardi B, I just wanted to take a shit on your flawed illogical comment.

@hewf3zleepy

Жыл бұрын

She still plays the drums absolutely horrible live

Played as jack wanted! Sounds raw and real! Love meg.

A little bit overdramatic but you got the spirit. Thruth is: Jack alwys liked the amateur-ish playstyle of Meg on the drums.

@pjam1184

2 жыл бұрын

I always wondered if he really did, or is that just his heart talking?

@ickythumb4394

2 жыл бұрын

@@pjam1184 Nah i guess he did. When Meg started drumming she had no experience at all. It would have been easy for Jack to find an actuall drummer for his Band. But he chose Meg and never replaced her.

I think their music is designed for listeners of music, not for musicians and critiquers lol. I know I really like it and never notice the slowing down/speeding up of the drums. Though I do still fully respect your opinion of their music.

I would hate to be so wrapped up in the technicalities where you forget to enjoy the song n vibe

Why is he having a meltdown at drumming. Chill out dude On another note, "Taking me Back" came out a couple days ago and the drumming (played by Jack) is top notch

Who cares if she dont maintain the tempo, like who gives a f***. You know what she can do, she can rock the f up, and get emotions out of ya and thats all what an artist needs to do. So who cares if she slows down, thats part of their beauty, the raw, unpolished sound. And both of them as a team get to ya, and make you actually feel something, and thats art. So, out of tempo? Slows down? Who cares????

The song was perfect the way HE did it, you had me stressing out bro , my kids always tell me " Chill daddy, chill!" Lol

Probably the best reaction video from David. I mean, I love when he enjoys and loves the songs, but him having a meltdown over the white stripes is so fcking hilarious😂. I love coming back to this video once in a while

Dude he doesn’t need another drummer the drummer is clearly part of the sound and what makes them great. I’m pretty sure they’re famous and well recognised 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Hilarious reaction. I do not feel the tempo shifting as much as you do. I personally don´t like when a tempo is 120 bpm all the way. That is not human. I have played with click and with a drummer that is so locked to a tempo that I feel irritated. It is not human for me. Funny how different we are. I loved the reaction. Keep up the good work.

Bruh, we found a Karen of Rock n Roll 😂🤣

The studio version of this song is fantastic and much less frustrating

I have an explanation. They never rehearsed and didn't use setlists and Jack (guitarist/vocalist) told Meg (drummer) to stop practicing so she couldn't get better and so they could stay the same way. Also I'm not saying I don't like Meg, I think she's an awesome drummer, but Jack's new drummer is better (because of my point above). Well technically he's had two different drummers and the current one is Daru Jones. And I have a request. It's ball and biscuit this song BUUUUTTTTT live 2022 glastonbury. (he got his new drummer in 2012 so don't worry it's not the same drummer.)

@officialjohnblue

8 ай бұрын

Or 2020 SNL ball and biscuit. All performances containing this man are absolutely godlike

You should check out Jack White at SNL in 2020. He has an actual band playing with him and plays a medley of three different songs but forms them into one. Ball and biscuit being one of those three

Meg is doing what the sound needs. And what Jack needs

I counted this and I actually think you were off tempo a few times in your criticism, not that she wasn't as well. I can hear her speeding up twice, but she goes back fairly quick. She def didn't "slow down and speed up six times in one minute". But sometimes I've listened to their live stuff and jack will do sped up playing too and she always seems to catch up pretty well. I think your anger at her style has made you hate this music lol. I don't know much of your stuff but I'm guessing you hate punk and garage rock because of the less precise nature. I play classical piano but I think it's good sometimes to relax about time signatures. You don't fuck to a metronome.

I’m not even a Meg White fan, but damn dude.

Some say music has heart. Some hearts beat on time, some are arrhythmic. And then there's the White Stripes.

Hey! Can we get some more White Stripes? :D

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

Oh dear GAWD no

Got to love how upset you get when the Grammy nominated artist wants her to play that way

This is gold haha

Thanks for trying David.... As others have mentioned... You should react to Jack White's solo-work or with the Raconteurs. 👍👍👍

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

I have a solo work reaction coming out soon.

I love the White Stripes and love that song but your reaction about the drumming had me in stitches. It's been no secret since 1997 that Meg White is not a good drummer. You've got to ask yourself why would she be in a band such as the White Stripes? Jack White once said that he loves the child-like quality of her drumming and it fitted in with their garage rock blues attitude. Jack White is also heavily influenced by lots of blues artists in the early 20th century. Most of them didn't keep good time and were even out of tune.

I love the white stripes, meg and jack white were amazing the 2 times I saw them. I'm hoping eventually they will tour one more time, not holding my breath though. Peace!

Dude you are hilarious. Hahah what a guy..

Shrugs, you weren't wrong. I'm really not a musician, but it was clear as day in that measure. Also he is good, yeah. But in a blues style song like this steady tempo is essential.

LMAO on this reaction of the drumming here. I’m not a musician and have noticed her being “off” from the get go listening to this band.

Whats ironic is Meg probably won't ever play again, or make public music because she was getting the same criticism of her drumming, even at their peak, by Rock media. Even though they were extremely popular. Which is fine if someone doesn't prefer the sound. We all listen to music for different reasons. But her drumming has a place. It reminds me of like some sort of new age punk rock. Where techincality is almost irrelevant, and its based purely on feeling and the emotion it elicits. Imperfection isn't merely accepted, they seek it out. Down to their color schemes, to they way the play music, its built on a foundation of simplicity and imperfection. And finding new sounds and expressions within the rigid bounds of that simplicity. I absolutely love her drumming and how it perfectly compliments Jacks play style and how he rarely performs a song the same way twice. And trust me, I love prog rock, metal, all of it. And sure, she could keep beat more precise, do more drum fills. They could add more bass guitars, keys and strings into their music. Jack is absolutely talented enough. But that then takes away the simplicity. And simplicity has its place. I can search on KZread and find 100's of virtuoso artists playing instruments to perfection. You can't search and find another Meg or White Stripes. And I think thats awesome. And if you get an ear for it, its becomes addictive and immersive in ways more complex rock simply can't. The White Stripes would have simply been another band that came and went, that sorted of blended with whatever rock was popular at the time. But Megs drumming is the foundation of their sound that made them super unique and refreshing. Just a stripped back, raw experience, where the imperfections are an attribute. Techincal doesn't always equate to good, just as simple doesn't always equate to bad. And I respect your opinion, and won't try to change your mind Just want to explain from the perspective of someone who has really enjoyed their music for decades now. I think of it the same way if like someone told me Janis Joplin was terrible because she wasn't always on pitch. When to me, thats what made her stand out, personable and connect to a lot of people. I think its the exact same thing with the Meg, and by extension the White Stripes. At the end of the day music is simply nothing but sounds, you either like it or you don't. But with saying that, I think all styles of rock music has their place while serving a purpose. And the refreshing charm of the White Stripes was undeniable in my opinion. And so unique that you can't find another band to compare them to.

Relax dude - watch them live a bunch, they purposefully speed up, slow down, never play there songs the same way twice. Lyrics get changed, chord structure, songs get mixed together. It’s their style. It’s part of the charm. They’re garage rock on purpose. You’re missing the point.

Recommend him some Jack White stuff without Meg on it. I actually don't mind Meg, but he obviously can't get over it, but he needs to experience some Jack White, sure he'd appreciate it.

@darrenburford3322

2 жыл бұрын

Yet when Jack plays the WS songs solo they sound nowhere near as good, Meg's drumming was integral.

Jack White prefers the gritty and unpolished playing that Meg White possesses. He honestly plays the same way on guitar and drums. I believe he’s said he loves when ability and the instrument are in a battle with each other.

Bro went straight up Whiplash mode.

Btw You should react to their live cover of Jolene it's my favorite performance by them. I don't know how well she keeps temps or not in that lol but I really like it. Then again you might not like it lol. Maybe just watch it in your free time. Make sure the one where there is like 30 secs of him talking to the audience. Have a great day!

Check out Jack White’s solo stuff, mainly with Daru Jones drumming…or listen to The Dead Weather(Jack plays drums), or his other band The Raconteurs 👌🏼👌🏼

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

I've actually already done a reaction video to a Jack White solo song, I believe it was called "Lazaretto". Talk about night and day, it amazing what a difference a drummer can make. Here's a link to the reaction video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/qm2dm5OmfNzMoNI.html

You should really check out Jack White's post White Stripes stuff, like The Raconteurs, The Dead Weather, and especially his solo stuff because he plays with actual professional musicians who know how to keep time and tempo and Jack White is such a good guitarist. Lots of people love the raw, amateurish garage-band style of The White Stripes, but I can understand how being a professional musician it would irk you to hear Meg White play drums. His post WS stuff would be a lot more suited to you, I think.

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

I filmed a reaction for one of his solo songs a couple weeks ago, should be coming out soon.....no spoilers....

I'm only here because of your newest upload, and I see the comments from this old reaction are very pro meg, and I don't get it at all. The little kid in the movie school of rock summed it up decades ago, she can't play.

didnt they lie and said we are sister and brother but were actually wife and hubby.i cant recall the reason for it ....

Try Salute Your Solution by The Raconteurs or his solo version of Ball and Biscuit.

Dude, have you watched any of Jimi Hendrix's live performances? Rock and Roll doesn't have sound like a metronome, there is space for off-kilter styles. The white stripes are a garage rock band who incorporated blues and punk rock. Garage rock is known for this kind of low-fidelity sound. It's grimy. Play it during a workout and you'll get it No hate to you tho, good reaction overall it doesn't seem like you're being malicious just not your personal style. But I think you could learn to appreciate this sound if you tried

I just want to say, David seems to have lifted his ban on Captain Beefheart, and being bronze tier on his patreon I've requested the songs "Electricity" and "Too Much Time" by the same artist. As much as I enjoyed watching my previous request score so low, it seems right to see very different reactions to different songs. So, this would be my appeal to silver and bronze tier members to bump my new requests up the queue if they are also interested in seeing positive Captain Beefheart reaction videos. Peace. ✌️

@sreneethomas

2 жыл бұрын

Love Captain Beefheart

Let it go bri release the 80s . This is what pros listen to

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

Uhhhhh....no, it's not. None of the professional musicians I've worked with past or present would ever listen to this and call it great, or even good.

She isn’t a professional. She was his wife playing bc he ask her

Check out some of Jack's work with The Raconteurs. They are legit.

Guess who's joined the amateur dramatic society ! 🤣.... Can see as a musician this could drive you nuts.... But I think Jack and Meg know what is going off and are happy to live with it (no new drummer required ! )..... You could say Jack may even like it as I think he has alternative wiring !.... The incestuous nature of rock groups in the past...the hire/ fire / quitting and spitting dummy when they don't get their own way is the fallout you get from a roomful of narcissists.. I respect the fact Jack and Meg had their own rule book instrument proficiency does not trump everything !.... Didn't do them that much harm did it ! ✌️🇬🇧

Sloppy blues rock dude. That was the fun!

At least Meg was on time for the gig, or so she thinks.

U make me laugh

Sorry you didn't like the White Stripes. Jack's solo work is really good! Over and Over and Over is one of my favorite songs by him. Full of his signature guitar playing! I highly recommend!

David you wild 😂 but the score right. Ex husband and ex wife

I will add you certainly have a right to like or dislike but no reason to feel sorry for. The WS had 6 studio plus live & a G-hits albums & sold one hundred forty-six million copies. They had #1 albums in multi countries. With 19 awards from 54 nominations; including 6 Grammy Awards. I know of many successful 3 piece or trio bands like Cream, ZZ Top, ELP, etc etc. But the WS were the only 2 piece electric guitar group wo a bass that were that popular & made it big.

Dude she is playing how he wants her to play. He taught her and she plays how he wants it to be

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

So what you're saying is....Jack intentionally taught her and asked her to rush and drag on purpose, play sloppy on purpose, and not be able to keep a steady 4/4 count on purpose?

@robertreed8840

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic what I’m saying is Jack taught her how to play. He has said in interviews years ago that he never plays the way twice. His tempo is never the same two days in a row so she is trying to tell on the fly what he is doing. I do find her annoying too though lol. Side note. I enjoy your reviews. You do a awesome job of explaining things. I have a few recommendations if you’d be interested.

@robertreed8840

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic you should check out early Flyleaf. Songs such as Fully Alive, I’m so sick or Cassie. The lead singer at this time was Lacy Sturm who has filled in on vocals for Jen before with Skillet. I also would love to see you react to anything live from Here Come The Mummies. I think you’d appreciate their sound snd abilities. Keep up the good work man.

Three strikes your out

He's stayed with her for 10 years so I don't think he wanted a new drummer, their plenty of other professional drummers who are fine with her style and their are other who are not. I am not a musician but it sounds fine to me. In the end it was she who quit it wasn't what the guitarist wanted.

Aw shucks. Seven Nation Army or Hypnotize or something like that would have been better. Those are just cooler songs. I'm gonna have to say though, 'Ball and Biscuit', 'death letter' and 'Black Math" are very much their style and a good representation of the their discography. And don't feel bad for Jack. He's gotten lots of new drummers. It's not white stripes without Meg though. I wouldn't have it any other way. That being said, your criticisms are rational and fair. Going out of time just a little then pulling it back is less annoying to some people more than others. I imagine drummers and bassists are the exact people who would be affected most by it. Oh well. So I don't suppose you could add modest mouse "Teeth Like Godshoeshine" your que could ya? I wanna see if their tempo changes are done correctly

@silverseto1158

2 жыл бұрын

Teeth Like God's Shoeshine please

Meg White is watching this just sobbing into a lean cuisine.

He has great drummer now

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

I know I reacted to Lazaretto, and I was much more impressed. I think I even made the comment "what a difference a drummer makes". kzread.info/dash/bejne/qm2dm5OmfNzMoNI.html

This is the best version.

It's cool, but if it doesn't bother Jack, it shouldn't bother you. Just enjoy!

I had heard at some point that JW actively discouraged MW from practicing. I always liked the fact that she sucked at drums… especially in the beginnings. I get it though… it’s annoying if you aren’t fully committed to accepting this as (The White Stripes) a sort of performance art piece. Like their (or HIS JW’s) commitment to idiosyncratic and obsessive adherence to the “rules” of his art: Use vintage instruments (usually cheap, damaged and or out of tune. He mentioned once that he felt that having to fight with a guitar helped him achieve what it was that he was looking for), vintage recording equipment and techniques. The red and white and eventually black motif is obviously part of it. Having MW play like she doesn’t know how (well… she doesn’t right?), the whole brother/sister husband/wife thing. I don’t know… you get it. It’s about more than the music and the musicianship. It’s about deconstruction or reconstruction of blues standards often mixing in a modern post -industrial angst (listen to “The Big Three Killed My Baby”). When they first emerged it felt like a breath of fresh air… or dirty stanky air… in a good way. Don’t take it too seriously… it’s all tongue and cheek.

Meg never took lessons. She sat down at jacks drum set and started banging and Jack liked her childlike rawness so he said you’re the drummer and she said cool and they became one of the biggest bands ever.

Yeee I'm not sure you get how this band works. My drummer would probably be as frustrated as you are and I get it. I'm a prog rock musician and precision is important to me, but these guys are going for the very opposite of perfection. They are trying to nail down the aesthetic of kids playing music in a basement. They change tempo impulsively and make mistakes because of their lack of focus, but that lack of focus is their root. If somebody did this on drums during a jazz solo or during a precise section of a King Crimson piece it would be inexcusable, but this is the White Stripes. Their aesthetic relies ON their imperfection rather than their imperfection being a detriment to it. I play early Genesis and ELP regularly and I love the White Stripes especially for the things that are annoying you right now. Take a step back as a musician and try to see it through a fresh set of eyes.

The White Stripes were all about the guitars and sloppy drumming. If it makes you feel better, they disbanded about 11 years ago. You can relax now.

lol this is how they always played. Seriously, just do a simple Google search on their style. This is what they do and they like it this way. Also may want to look into some edibles... you seem VERY high strung...

So that’s kind of white stripes whole thing. I guess it’s supposed to be part of the feel. Check out Raconteurs. Better drummer for sure

Hmmm...I like it somehow,you know.

OMG! If it bothers you that much then dont play their songs. The drummer was his wife. Jack taught her & had no problem with Meg.The WS were a punk band. Even though Jack has much music skills; people didnt go to see them because of great musicianship. They went to see this band because of their raw emotion.

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

Well it was a request, so I kinda had to do it. I wasn't going to delete a request just because I didn't feel like doing it, that wouldn't have been fair to the requester who had been waiting months for it.

You're not wrong man but they were really successful act LOL

Maybe they can open for your band one day.

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

Oh hell no, we'll hire a local high school band over them. Now if it's JUST Jack White with his solo project, then by all means absolutely....just leave her at home.

Maybe Meg sped and slowed on purpose. Sort of passive-aggressiveness towards Jack.

I'm sure you love Joe Satriani.

@wooddemon6838

2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, that was rude.

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

Not rude if it's the truth

Jack White is goated. I stick to studio versions with them just because of the drums live

Poor Jack has to keep time for Meg's drums as well as doing every other interesting thing they do.

@YerpDerp17

6 ай бұрын

Poor Jack? lol It was purposeful. With the White Stripes he was seeking imperfection, and seeing what they could create within the rigid lines of simplicity. To them only being a 2 member back, to their color schemes and how they played music, it was all based on simplicity. She could have learned drum fills, he could have incorporated more bass guitars, keys or strings, but they purposely didn't. Thats the charm. Its why you can watch 5 different performances of the same song and they will always sound different. They weren't seeking perfection, or technicality. Jack said it was liberating making music where they had very rigid lines on where they could go with it. But it was all purposeful, whether you like the sound or not. Every band Jack creates have a vastly different sound. The Raconteurs were more textured and technical. The Dead Weather was more bombastic and in your face. And the White Stripes were simplicity and imperfection. And his solo stuff is more experimental. All of those sounds were on purpose. Now you don't have to like it, thats valid. But once you turn your analytical brain off and get an ear for it, it becomes so refreshing, raw and charming.

Bro chill out my guy it’s music not a math problem

The Raconteurs

Do this one. She gets better through the years. Could make for an interesting revisit: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g42Lu9abpq6ppJc.html

Black Keys.

Don’t rag on my white stripes

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not ragging on The White Stripes. The song was fine, and Jack was fine, no issues with either. My issue was with that hack of a drummer who can't even keep a steady tempo.

David is a music critique…. If you don’t like his opinions or if you want your ears tickled then go to any other reaction channel and let them butter your biscuit. Heck, I’m anxiously waiting for the video to drop where he reacts to my volbeat request. You either love them or you hate them. His vocals are hit and miss with everyone. If he ends up not liking it, I’m not gonna get all offended and bash him for his opinion over a song I requested.

The White Stripes are sloppy by design

You should see Jack white with a proper band. His new drummer is insane

@brandonb.5304

2 жыл бұрын

Agree. His solo stuff is great. Awesome to hear Jack's skills on the guitar paired with other professional musicians.

You're acting like Napoleon Dynamite.

Meg White wasn't the greatest drummer but The White Stripes is nothing without her... Jack White appreciate her drumming skills even if it's not that mind blowing or on beat...

Man you guys wanted a reaction? He gave you his honest reaction.

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

I'll always be honest, even when what I have to say isn't going to be popular.

@Nononsensetypeofguy

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEDavidHeretic As you should. People get butt hurt about everything now a days anyway. Keep doing your thing my man.

@THEDavidHeretic

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nononsensetypeofguy FEELIN' YOU Ali!!!

Fucking awesome reaction dude!

Don't worry, he has a new drummer.

Listen to raconteurs

He likes messiness

ever notice how nobody gives a shit about Jack White anymore? The White Stripes had a sound that resonated with people - and Meg was a reason. Otherwise, he's just another boring blues guitarist.

Metal heads lol.

I kind of like the idea that White Stripes wants to do thing on their "own unique style", but it alone can not carry the band if drummer can not keep any tempo... This band needs some Japanese talent in them drums.

For me the most frustrating part of listening to white stripes is jacks whites intentionally terrible vocals

This isn't the genre for you.

I like to describe The White Stripes as a guy who has a really strange voice and a girl who really doesn't want to be there.

That’s not drumming 😂

This guy doesn’t get the beauty in imperfect rhythm. Sad