The Weirdest Planet Got Weirder - Haumea Has Rings
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Back in January the planet Haumea passed in front of a star, and a spanish team were observing, using the occulation timings to measure the size and shape of this distant body. And in the process discovered a ring system around this already strange and mysterious body.
www.nature.com/nature/journal/...
Includes video produced by the team
• A ring around Haumea
And models from SpaceEngine spaceengine.org/
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Haumea, the easteregg of the solarsystem.
@Neutronic01
5 жыл бұрын
But more oval than an actual egg.
@nayime3698
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@blakerslove7716
5 жыл бұрын
Then eat the rocks and break ur teeth and get candy
@adamkerman475
2 жыл бұрын
@@Neutronic01 easteroval?
Sounds like a good place to set up an interplanetary tech support service. “Good evening, you are talking to Glork. Haumea help you?”
@crcpeart
4 жыл бұрын
Lawrence D’Oliveiro deserves more likes
@msruag
2 жыл бұрын
this is gold
@rowshambow
8 ай бұрын
Glork
So, someone put a ring on the Hawaiian fertility goddess? Lucky man whoever that was.
@sizanogreen9900
6 жыл бұрын
nice.
@scottboyer8450
6 жыл бұрын
here, have a reply
@katarjin
6 жыл бұрын
You can have one too Mr. Robotech/Macross picture dude.
@SueMead
6 жыл бұрын
*+OtakuMage* Depends on how fertile the goddess is. Won't someone think of the children?
@poppete
6 жыл бұрын
the Kuiper belt is probably littered with them - just got to what out for the runaways heading out way
Flat earthers almost have somewhere to live where they are right
@nolanwestrich2602
6 жыл бұрын
Well, you need to convince them to switch to flat Haumea-ism first.
@MaxBrix
5 жыл бұрын
They will say it is a perfect sphere.
@Bishka100
5 жыл бұрын
I want to go to Ankmorpork
@F100cTomas
4 жыл бұрын
What a waste of celestial bodies
@johnzuck6163
4 жыл бұрын
Michcode 😂
im scott safe, fly manley.
@SFSAtlas
3 жыл бұрын
It's sound like an airline announcement
but the thing everyone wants to know, will it be in KSP?
@williamhunter6505
6 жыл бұрын
I hope it will be in KSP because that will give us a chalange to get there!
@RMJ1984
6 жыл бұрын
that would actually be awesome. Since it would be quite the unique challenge overcome. Not sure if its even possible to land on it .
@stefanklass6763
6 жыл бұрын
Is it part of RSS Extended?
@proot.
6 жыл бұрын
Stefan Klass I think so
@SeanRPS
6 жыл бұрын
RMJ1984 i know i can get there, the problem is landing in 1 piece
Looks like a Giant Space Potato. SpaceX should plan a trip there, but make sure to bring the butter and sour cream. Maybe even some bacon bits. I'm sorry, it's lunch time here and seeing this is making me hungry. LoL
@Downloadguy1995
6 жыл бұрын
Wolverine Prime Mark Whatneys moat hated belt object i guess then
@cloudcleaver23
6 жыл бұрын
The Irish suddenly have an overwhelming national desire to form a space colony.
@MickGallJr
6 жыл бұрын
cloudcleaver23 racist
@Loweko1170
6 жыл бұрын
Science is delicious.
@electrosindustries5299
6 жыл бұрын
How Kerbal of you to say that
Thinking back to a video you made almost a year ago, the ring must exist within Haumea's the Roche limit. Maybe it only exists because of the minor-planet's high spin rate. Is it possible that, due to it's egg shape, the planet's two lobes are stretched to the height it's haumeostationary orbit? This would make it so certain objects might roll uphill and then, upon reaching the apex of one of the lobes, be launched into orbit to join the ring. I dunno, maybe?
So could the difference in the surface gravity between standing at the pole and standing at the equator be great enough to feel it? Having the gravity degrade while "walking" away from the pole would be very interesting....
Looks like Haumea was just a normal planet but a very fast asteroid well placed hit the planet's ecuador and make it spin like an interstellar meme.
I literally just opened this article in Nature and now I see this video. I'm guessing Scott's version will be easier to digest.
@Dendroapsis
6 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed at how 'hot off the press' these videos are
Every other planet: *Is a sphere* Haumea: *E G G E*
Flat earth? Pfff, old news. Egg Earth is the new theory. 8) Yes I'm kidding.
@kerbalengineer1243
6 жыл бұрын
Tuiat well actually earth’s rotation does stretch it at the equator.
@JimmyStiffFingers
6 жыл бұрын
Raptor shaped Earth.
@dafrandle
6 жыл бұрын
@JimmyStiffFingers someone give this man a nobel prize
@jeffknott4081
6 жыл бұрын
Tuiat but what if the earth is round but overnight we were all killed but our minds inserted into a computer program modelling the real universe? How would we know if we're programmed to accept stuff as real? Or have I seen "The Matrix" too many times?🤔
@dafrandle
6 жыл бұрын
because it's not "overnight" for everyone at the same time
Hello, Haumea help you?
@andrealister3970
6 жыл бұрын
Don't know why, but I lol'd
It's a ring of salt; if we cross it the ancient evil will be unleashed...
@chiron9536
6 жыл бұрын
lol
@spartanjackwar
6 жыл бұрын
You mean we can release the kraken in the actual solar system? *Danny 2462's salt-crossing-device is invented*
@meatballg8655
6 жыл бұрын
The ring is actually a cage enclosure made of salt which stops the inhabitants of CS:GO leaking out into society.
Man, landing on a planet like this in KSP would be a trip
@fewwiggle
4 жыл бұрын
"would be a trip" Probably a few hundred AU's, right? :-)
It's an ancient alien spaceship I tell you!
@sheikchilli8670
6 жыл бұрын
no its an ancient italian spaceship
@Phos9
6 жыл бұрын
Shlomo Sheikchilli makes sense, we just need to find the white and green spots to go with the red spot.
@julianmoretti7847
6 жыл бұрын
Hello Dave.... Please, come back to the ship Dave. I promise I will open the pod bay doors Dave.
@MrAcenan
6 жыл бұрын
shhhh...
@alexlandherr
6 жыл бұрын
Stop this discussion thread immediately, it’s getting far too silly.
Would love to see objects like this in kerbal. Although, flat poles might be hard for the engine
Space Skittle
@autisticboi2992
6 жыл бұрын
lol
@thanos8641
4 жыл бұрын
How did you come up with this??? Fucking genius!!!
I love videos like this! Thank you Scott.
so in a way haumea is flat
@davidbrener2538
6 жыл бұрын
Internet Dweller but not as flat as the earth
@MrHack4never
6 жыл бұрын
We should send flat-earthers there
@blazednlovinit
6 жыл бұрын
In the same way a rugby ball is flat, sure.
@TheRogueWolf
6 жыл бұрын
Yes, but she has a nice personality.
@76rjackson
6 жыл бұрын
Internet Dweller Of course. All the planets are flat. And hollow. And inhabited by lizard people. Have you seen my tinfoil hat?
Would love to see a mission to fly by or even land on Haumea.
If landed on and you tunnled into it, would it be spinning fast enough to give gravity like a scifi spinning ring in a ship?
Is this object big enough to qualify as a dwarf planet, or is it just a standard KBO?
@philip1201
6 жыл бұрын
> Hydrostatically equilibrious shape > Orbits the sun Yep, it's a dwarf planet.
@timothymclean
6 жыл бұрын
What does "hydrostatically equilibrious shape" mean? I mean, yeah, it means "the shape is caused by the body being in hydrostatic equilibrium," but every body's shape is a tug-of-war between gravity (leading to its shape being more controlled by hydrostatic equilibrium) and various other internal forces (leading to its shape NOT being controlled that way). To my knowledge, there isn't a firm point where an object stops being mostly influenced by miscellaneous forces and starts being mostly influenced by gravity, and there are bodies distributed at all levels of hydrostatic "round-ness". Where do you draw the line?
@sizanogreen9900
6 жыл бұрын
Some would say haumea is not a dwarf planet, some would say it is. but no seriously it is already qualified as adwarf planet.
@thekamakaji
6 жыл бұрын
Timothy McLean I'm pretty sure all he meant was that it is smooth and round, unlike Saturn's moon Pan for example. He just said it in an overly scholastic way. Reminds me of a presentation I went to on why homo sapiens beat out Neanderthals, and a guy on the panel made some comment about our superior "aquatic processing abilities." The moderator called him out and was like, "By 'aquatic processing' you mean fishing, right?" The professor's face got all red and replied, "Yes, I meant fishing." 😂
@timothymclean
6 жыл бұрын
KamaKaji To be fair, "aquatic processing" includes things other than fishing. To be critical, _Homo sapiens neanderthalis_ is still _Homo sapiens_ (depending on how you shoehorn evolutionary transitions into Linnaean boxes).
one of my first thoughts looking at this, was wether or not the accelerated distance of other bodies movng away from us affected the results of what shape was seen for this particular planet. but then I thought that if that was true we would be getting more results for "egg shaped" planets
What would gravity be on that planet? Would that fast a rotation lower the apparent gravity at the equator? How much more would i weigh at the poles compared to the equator?
@brysonfetters7680
6 жыл бұрын
Monk Drunkey Either way I'm pretty sure that you wouldn't weigh much.
@HuntingTarg
6 жыл бұрын
My guess is at that rate, given its low mass, you would either have to lay down at the poles & get vertigo, or float off the equator (and never land again...) 🎼🎶🎤"Ground Control to Major Tom..."
@billmarsh1971
6 жыл бұрын
Monk Drunkey anything finding itself on haumea would weigh the same as a potato
I dare them to land a probe on it. Dear Mr Scott Manley , how difficult would it be to land a probe on an object spinning that fast? Can you science us a bit in a short video about that? Thanks for all your good videos by the way :)
@poppete
6 жыл бұрын
if you landed at the spot that would be the middle or center point of the spin - like a spinning disc
duh its obviously a Mass relay
@Tuzszo
6 жыл бұрын
Damn Reapers trying to distract us with Charon, when the real prize is in the next orbit over
@TheGamingScotty
6 жыл бұрын
staberas I wouldn't be suprised if it was a mass relay I have my theories that if we do get humans on Mars the mass effect theory will become a reality I sound really nerdy
its the egg of a space dragon, and we're going to be its first meal.
you had me at tri-axial ellipsoid😂😂
I dig your music choices!.
The big red spot is likely from whatever big object impacted it long ago, imparting so much angular momentum to Haumea, with the rest of the dust and ejecta from the impact forming the ring.
Why do I hear the phrase "evolve over time" so often in english language? Evolve means "change over time", right? Why would something change over time squared?
@fewwiggle
4 жыл бұрын
Isn't all change referenced to time? So, didn't you do the same "error" by saying "change over time"
@krshna77
4 жыл бұрын
@@fewwiggle change can be instant. It implies a time reference, but not a duration.
Great discovery!
Cool video, thanks!! :)
The wonders of the Universe (and even our own solar system) never ceases to amaze.
"Billions and billions of years"... okay so in reality around 150,000 to 300,000 years ago. For those asking, yes, Pluto is and always has been a planet. Just remember, the guy who tried to prove it was not a planet worships a dead guy who firmly believed in embryonic recapitulation. I guess it's good neither was born prematurely, otherwise they would have popped out of the womb as a monkey or a dog! Very cool stuff, Scott! It's nice to see more odd little planets being recognized, and would be great to see a probe sent to study it. :)
Hauema, this should be a test destination for Break through Star Shot, if it ever gets off the drawing board.
Creator of the video: he called haumea a planet but its a dwarf planet Haumea: yay thanks
Scott 4 hours was the rotation of Rama spacecraft
Nice vid Scott, even that it's not about KSP ;) :D It's seem a planet to me, even that is smaller that Pluto, it even have moons, I think the astronomers must change this classification, but, I'm not a astronomer so.. They should know what they doing, probably!! Undoubtely it's very wierd spacial body, it's seem that he stretched like a egg (in upper view) and stoped in that shape, I can't imagine how powerfull forces shaped that bizarre body! Thanks for this vid and hugs! :)
That's pretty crazy..I wonder if impacts on the surface are any different.. From the actual impact of meteors hitting it and 'skipping' off the surface.. or long, wide creators?
makes sense, its fast rotation could be due to a past impact with a foreign object that knocked some debris loose in the axis of its rotation.
music? this sounds really nice. is it just the soundtrack of spaceengine?
So the Spanish stole somebody else's find?
@FindingClock4
6 жыл бұрын
Read the book by Mike Brown: "How I Killed Pluto and Why It Had I Coming" for the whole story of the incident and the whole story about these steller bodies.
@MickHaggs
6 жыл бұрын
Nobody expects the Spanish Astronomical Society!
I thought it was chariklo in the thumbnail lol
really interesting!
If you're calling Haumea a planet, does that mean pluto is back on the table?
@scottmanley
6 жыл бұрын
Pluto is sitting on the Dwarf planet table along with Haumea, Ceres and others.
@JPFanBoy2
6 жыл бұрын
Dwarf planet, which is what Pluto is classed as also. Anything in that size range is a dwarf planet.
@sheikchilli8670
6 жыл бұрын
please refer to it as the potato, and not anything planet related
@MDPToaster
6 жыл бұрын
Sprinkles Sundae It’s not size, it’s orbital debris.
@JPFanBoy2
6 жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/equumbuHYaS3nbQ.html en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_planet
I wonder it any sort of "grand tour" of Kuiper belt objects is possible any time soon (ala Voyager 2 style)?
I wonder if the shape is indeed because of the speed/rotation and not just a coincidence. Also, that red color for some reason I find fascinating. Is it some chemical reaction, mineral, something else? Enough is enough, we need to develop faster than light speed (or whatever) ASAP. I don't want excuses that it can't be done. I want solutions now! :) Thank you for sharing this, great video.
Hurry up with Warp Drive, already! We've got places to be and planets to see! :)
Cool. Space stuff.
Hey Scott i have an idea for a future video. Maybe you could explain why we don't launch more rockets from aeroplanes? It makes sense to me, skip the densest part of the atmosphere and give it a bit of speed bonus and can be a lot smaller and cheaper?
So could it have formed as an early binary upon which tidal forces broke up the original secondary. If it as due to inward motion, it could have spun up Haumea as well. The odd shape could potentially be explained by tidal and gravitational gradient issues during this proposed binary formation. Furthermore the ring may only be a remnant, with the majority of the original secondary having fallen inward along the equatorial belt. That's the best I got.
It's the perfect shape to skim/skip across a very large body of water.
Holy hell! What even lays an egg that big?!? O.O
Prediction: The ring is impact debris from a large impact that imparted the large angular momentum to the object.
Would dropping it into a bottle of diet coke make a fountain of diet coke?
@dertimoausbonn
6 жыл бұрын
If you had a bottle of diet coke big enough, it would make a fountain.
Skalnaté pleso observatory from Slovakia. I am glad we helped with our telescope.
And here I saw the thumbnail and thought it was about planet earth !
maybe Haumea's spin was ripping itself apart but now it slowed down enough to be stable enough?
I'd like a video on how rings form, if it is known. Surely it should be easy to simulate?
So it’s a giant space Mentos...
I sure wish Scott would get his volume mixing under control...wildly different volumes video to video. Nevermind the music volume.
Hmm, almost a disc. Lets send all the flat earthers there!
Dwarf planets are planets too! Planet X probably doesn’t exist, although calling it Planet X is much appreciated because the name Planet Nine is obnoxious. Haumea is one of the coolest planets in our solar system! Great video! 👍🏻
Haumea:Idc if im not sphere shaped bruh
It looks like a Mentos, the rings are probably from some alien spilling his coke on it.
So is this what inspired "Inaccessible" from the very old planet factory mod?
Scott Manley, Which simulation did you used in this video?
136108 Haumea is so weird! It's shaped as an egg due to 3.9 hour long rotation about its axis, has a thin ice coating, AND iw actually the only non-gas object to have rings! What the...
Tbh, this is one of my favourite celestial bodies. Certainly in the Sol system!
I have a question for Mr. Manley. Do you think that more focus should be on researching technology instead of doing space missions for science? I am just saying that it could be more cost effective to research new capabilities before you put them in practice. Do we need missions as intensive?
"One of the weirdest planets in the solar system." You sure about that?
@krshna77
4 жыл бұрын
This. The truly weirdest planet in SS has an acute case of holy emperor clowns leading all lemurs to the meat grinder.
it must be so weird trying to travel around that planet considering how screwed up it's gravity must be.
What software are you using to do thes nice graphics ? Are they at all from you ?
It would make sense that a fast spinning object has a ring, I mean it's roatating that fast, dust would have a hard time setting on the surface
3:28 you like fancy words, don't you squidward
I am suprised by Your estimation of Haumeas size. It would contradict the values of the ellipsoid graphic and the volume values, I found in Wikipedia:Haumea volumen ≈3.5×109 km3 Jupiter volumen: 1.4313×1015 km3 (1,321 Earths) (Wikipedia)My calculator tells me, that this gives Haumea a 408.942,8571428571th of the *size of Jupiter. That would mean, that You determined Haumea size ~ 100000 times larger! How come?* I am aware that the value for Haumea is given as an approximation. But given that the deviation, would extend to 5 decimal points, that wouldn't change much..PS: Please make another Kerbal session with Amy! That was really wonderful! Keep up the good work!
Idea for a new video: Would the Halo Ark actually be theoretically possible to be built in space? What would need to change in order for it to be plausible? I cant find any videos on this subject so it might be something interesting to think about (Plus Halo is an awesome game).
@DarthSkorn222
6 жыл бұрын
GrubixHD A space elevator would be a huge step forward in becoming a space-faring race. Shuttling cargo equipment and and personnel between the orbital station at the top, and a International receiving and shipping hub below. Airports trains freeways. Maybe there can be a landing deck about a third of the way up people can land and then ride the elevator to the top. Great for business in a hurry.
thank you , karl sagan would be proud of you mate, pity about seti though
What a fascinating system. Makes me wonder if there are any bodies out there that spin so fast they become a torus. Do you know of any?
@scottmanley
6 жыл бұрын
+BrianJ1962 no because a torus isn’t stable, it’ll break into several bodies.
Could the elliptical shape be caused by the force of its orbit being extremely strong while it was being formed?
Wouldn't the ring most likely have formed from the debris of that collision you were talking about?
What about the Kuiper Belt object, 120347 Salacia and its moon, Actaea?
That's what I like to see - 1,000 likes - No dislikes..... :)
To me, we never lost Pluto as a planet. We just gained a few more small terrestrial planets
scott, what astronomy software are you using for the graphics in this video?
If it was hollow and if you stood on the surface of the inside, how many G's would you experience at this rotational speed?
About which axis does it rotate ? Also, I wonder how would an object orbit this body in a non-equatorial plane, surely it would be non-trivial due to the highly uneven distribution of Haumea's mass.
Soon that planet gonna orbit Earth and say " show me what you got !! "
How was that 5 to 7 orbital resonance diagram created? What program?
Hey Scott ... when you mention the rotation periods, are you referencing Earth days?
@thanos8641
4 жыл бұрын
Ye, he is i think
Scott, you called it a planet at the end. Does that mean Pluto is a planet once again now? ;)
Personally, I like that Pluto is named after a cartoon dog and not a fertility goddess. ;)
Triaxial elliptoid. Awesome
1:57 Mike Brown, legendary Pluto-slayer!
It would be really cool to visit this in elite dangerous
That would be a good target for that rich European guy to test out his micro probe lazer sail bot.
Why is it an triaxial spheroid? an oblate spheroid I can understand due to the rotation, what am I missing?