Mounting the FEP is like stretching a canvas. Its best to start your mounting screws in the center of the armature not the corners otherwise the center will loosen as you poke holes. This allows you to tug the corner to maintain tension if needed and makes sure that the tightest point of the stretched material is the center where printing most often occurs.

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

That process definitely makes sense but does run counter to quite a bit of "official" instructions of most of the printers I own. Fortunately with most things in printing, there are several solutions to the same problem. I do appreciate the clear explanation in mechanics of tensioning the FEP sheet like a canvas on a frame and I'll pin it to provide value to anyone else reading in the comment section

@TBetter

3 жыл бұрын

That's the way I do it too but this hack might make it even easier.

@kcsnow9447

3 жыл бұрын

You are quite right, Dynath. Stretch from a point halfway down each side to the center of the opposite side, and then to the center of the two remaining sides, as with a canvas, rather than starting with a corner. I'm sure you know if you start with a corner, you can usually get the first side right-straight, but if you fail to keep tension on the second side, the line of holes can creep inward. Do that again for the third, opposite side, and you are, perhaps, setting the stage for a sag as you near the end of the fourth side...which would be pretty disappointing. Well spotted!

@christreedee

2 жыл бұрын

Then proceed to corners? or lateral middles?

@jvon3885

Жыл бұрын

What about using a drum head tensioner to get equal tension all the way around.

Information starts at 4.30. . . .

@scuffedkidd2136

3 жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@TheSimba86

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@peypey_it_is

8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@3DSte1985

4 ай бұрын

Not all heroes wear capes.

@kyleflockworths

4 күн бұрын

I'm good. I Wana hear what he has to say. I'm a newbie so I'ma listen and not rush, he got a new subscriber

Okay this is a wild and awesome tip! I’m 100% going to try this

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Glad you liked the tip. It really shines with larger vats. Another subscriber swears by the cardboard frames for replacing FEP sheets on his Transform.

@FLQ309L

3 жыл бұрын

It works perfectly

@Cyrilcynder1

3 жыл бұрын

@Uncle Jessy everytime I see yiur pfp, I see Prince Sidon

@MrPeterMerkin

2 жыл бұрын

Design and 3d print a jig for this on your FDM printer. I'm going to design one for my Saturn.

I have failed twice at replacing my FEP and was getting frustrated. Watched this video and 20min later success, this worked like a charm, very easy to do and turned out better than the original. Much appreciated Hiro!!

Video starts at 2:16 Shorten the intro, it will increase viewer retention. Good tip though!

@GeoffreyGonzales

3 жыл бұрын

thanks

@joker_g7337

3 жыл бұрын

4:16

Thanks. This isn't weird, it's a practical solution to a complicated problem and it is really appreciated. Your thinking is in order :)

As a new person to resin printing, I am glad I ran across this video early. I think you saved me some headaches in the future! Thx subbed

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome to the amazing rabbit hole of an adventure that is 3d printing.

Just wanted to say thanks. Saw this video posted on an FB group. First time changing an FEP, followed your technique, and it turned out great. Onward with printing!

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Awsesome! Glad to hear the hack worked for you! More printer hacks to come :)

Elegoo Mars owner here. Thanks for stating that the hack is not useful for me. Thumbs up on the video for that.

Finally a proper tip for installing the FEP, thank you!

You have no idea how happy I am to see a new video from you in my notifications!

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

I am slowly coming back online. So hopefully I will be more visible on the feeds

I've just changed my Sonic Mini 4k's nfep film with this trick and it's awesome!! I got successful tensioning before without this with a lot of effort but still was not perfect. With this I got perfect tensioning, first try, effortlessly. You rock!!

About to change my first FEP, this looks to be an awesome way to ensure I don't have a bad time! Thanks!

sounds great, haven't had the need to change my FEP sheet yet but I will try to remember the trick

Nice idea. Also your explanation of how the different vats are assembled answered the question I was looking for. Thanks!

Man that is great how you found this ideal. I would never though of this. Great job 👏

DUDE: this hack is SIMPLY AWESOME AND THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!

this is actually pretty sick. Thanks man.

Thanks! I basically had the same idea, just to use tape insted of a stapler. Your video convinced me, that my idea was okay. And yeah: today for the first time in my life I changed a FEP (on my Saturn 3 ultra) and it sits perfect at first try! 😸

Good stuff! I came up with a similar solution using the vat and frame to do the same thing, just without stapling to cardboard first. The advantage to your system is that you don't have to worry about the FEP slipping while you're setting the screws!

It’s brilliant,let them hate you ,we love these hints ! Keep at it .

As a drummer, this is exactly the same as tensioning a tom. I even tap on the sheet with my finger at each screw location to listen for identical tone!

I just did this, first time replacing the FEP and it worked perfectly, Went in nice and tight. Thank you.

Don't have a printer yet, but I watch all the vids I can. This is a GREAT video!!!! I'm now subscribed. THANKS!!!!

Ha. You are so much fun to watch and listen to.

i came across ur method before i had ever needed to replace my FEP, so i have only ever used this and it works really well... i enjoy ur other videos also, many thanks for ur advice, glenn

Thank you so much! I'm finally getting prints again :)

would be cool if someone designed a fep-installation frame that can be 3d printed!

So simple and yet so efficient ! I was searching for a way to get the good tension on my LD 002R vat, gotta try that one ! Thanks

@Fredster9984

2 жыл бұрын

Did it work for you?

Impressive ! Gave you a thumbs up and you got another Sub. I don't own a 3d resin printer maybe next year, but I need to learn as much as possible before pulling the trigger. This video was very educational and provided a necessary process that one should learn. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks for putting this together! I've been battling this on my Saturns for a few weeks now... Such a handsy process. Would be amazing if there was some sort of clamping, sealing type process to bypass all these screws and also to minimize tension issues.... Maybe in time we'll get some major leaps on these things.

another tip i'd suggest is to not tighten down the screws in a circular motion. you should always use a "star" pattern to tighten things. you get each screw started and then tighten them corners first alternating from far corner to far corner all the way around the vat. you never fully tighten all screws at once you work them in slowly until all are tight.

DUDE. BEST. HACK. EVER.

Great hack buddy. I'll definetly try it when I change my FEP sheet and I will give you a shout.

Great idea. I was afraid of trying to change my fep, but not anymore

Now if the FEP sheet manufacturers got wind of this, maybe they could start pre tensioning and mounting the FEP on cardboard during manufacture. It would make their product much easier to use

@aunderiskerensky2304

Жыл бұрын

imagine if they came with a slight gasket like a car motor head gasket or something. unscrew old, clean tray, pull new one from an envelope, screw it in, attach vat and fill. easy.

@missjayspeechley9213

Жыл бұрын

@@aunderiskerensky2304 Yes please

Great ideas are always simple...nice one!

Amazing hack. Thanks for sharing.

Awesome hack for keeping the FEP taught while installing it onto the vat!

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

Fantastic, simple hack!

I love the vibe and style of your videos. I'm working on starting my channel, as well, and I wish you all the best on this journey, I think you've definitely got the right personality and content. I'd love to see videos on exotic colors or formulas, if you have any of those!

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Drop a link to your channel in the comments, I am always up for supporting fellow small creators. I have been really blessed to be able to experiment and test with a ton of new experimental resin blends from an awesome new resin startup. I definitely have more resin content planned both for specifically about the resins as well as new things I learned about resins in general.

I think it would be very easy to over-tighten your FEP doing this exactly as shown. I don't mean like you suggest in your video, pulling it tight to the point it starts to deform - thats WAY beyond overtensioned: you actually need your FEP to be a little bit loose so that the peeling action is spread over the surface of your FEP. This is why some use a bottle cap under their Anycubic style gasket when replacing a FEP. If your FEP is too tight then layers of the print, as they peel off will be in contact with the whole FEP. You want it to be a bit loose so that whilst it peels from the edge, the middle is still attached. This spreads the forces across the layer gradually, rather than everywhere at once. You'll see less suction related fails this way.

@noway8233

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, thats the awnser...i do it that way

@Mad_Catter_

Жыл бұрын

Currently trying to find the distance for my FEP on an AnyCubic Photon M3 Max, I am sure a bottle cap is not the same between models and adjustment is needed for bigger films...

This worked perfectly for me! Thank you!!!!!

simply genious... great engineering solutions come from simple ideas like this... practial, low cost and efectice

Awesome hack, Thank you

I can confirm that this hack does indeed work, and not just work... It works 1000%. I've been 3D printing for a little over a year and have been using this tip on all of my resin printers and the results are flawless. Getting the perfect amount of tension is vital for a successful print and although I have suffered some print failures this was never down to the FEP. So, Thank you SO SO much for sharing this tip it has saved me a fortune on buying replacement FEP as I have been able to use a single FEP sheet continuously for up to a month if not a little longer before needing to replace. :D

Brilliant! Just about to try it now. Liked & subscribed - thanks for the vid.

Great tip buddy, thanks!

what a life saver man, thanks a lot

guess i got lucky replacing ma first FEP but I also understand the logic in what you are doing here. nice idea! got a feeling it's time to change ma current FEP. will try this out

That power armor is amazing!

I'm going to have to try that.

Really cool tip, I'll give it a got when time comes. Subbed

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

mate , ive had my phrozen tray needs it replaced this hack makes me not so scared, liked and subscribed :)

Just got my first resin printer, will remember this when the time comes to replace the FEP. i think I might try to design and print (on my FDM-printer) a frame for this purpose, maybe a two part one that clips or screws together to pretension the FEP.

Brilliant. Great idea.

Good hack! Thank you so much

The manufacturers probably have some kind of installation jig that helps them install them quickly and easily, something like an external frame that they can quickly clamp onto a sheet to keep it just right.

@sashashadowhive6128

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... I am very certain they don't have some guy sitting in a corner putting these in. This is definately machine work

Thanks you so much, useful hack for my Halot One Pro

Simple and makes perfect sense

Thank you for this - You've earned my sub.

great idea

works awesomely!

Got my sub with this vid. Thanks Hiro

Thanks! very clever!

you only have 8k subs!? You deserve more!! Your vids are super helpful and awesome!

really good video !

Hey Hiro (Yasu) I’m new to your channel. Thank you for your educational tips!

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Glad to have you here! Hopefully the new resin print tips is helping make printing easier for you.

Holy shit!! Thank you so much for this!! I wanted to throw my printer through the window. 😂😂

That's actually pretty neat!!!:) SUBSCRIBED:)

Nice, I’ve found a video with the same trick in the usb key of my SLA. About 2 years ago.

thanks for this one,so so much better than how ive been doin it

The sensual hand grab got you a sub. lol 😂

Awesome, I went through like 5 sheets for my elegoo saturn because of how frustrating it was. I ended up sending the whole printer back and going back to FDM printers. Just a big nope... but I may try again one day because of this.

AMAZING, maravilloso. Ur a genius, too easy, to great.

Awesome tip, thank you

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

No problem!

Great tip! Thanks!

@HiroCreations

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! :)

wow... this makes me so happy to have an elegoo.

Phrozen mighty 8k has the sandwhich style pretensioner for the fep -- purchased mine in february 2023. Gottta say -- the quality of the screws/threads is very tight. Maybe that means it'll last longer? But it's a PITA to change. Atleast they updated it to be less of a PITA though!!!

Elegoo sell their vats and I'm pretty sure they fit most of the other brands that use the same format. You'll have to put up with a red plastic vat (unless they started selling the metal ones again) but they work.

Worked great on an Anycubic Photon M3. Just split the plastic original into the two halves and then did the trick....

@HiroCreations

Жыл бұрын

Hold up, Anycubic is using plastic gaskets for machine as large as the M3?

Makes sense, thanks.

beautiful tip*

thank you for shairing

I think, you can do the same (without the cardbord frame) if you didn't push metal frame into the VAT just before pokeing and screwing the FEP!. Simply lay the FEP on the VAT, then lay the metal frame on the FEP (without pushing it), poke the holes and screw the FEP in few steps (first just to hold the FEP in right position , next few steps to increase eavenly the tension )

You earned a subscriber

Subbing, this is a cool hack! I have the Mars Pro 2, so thinking it has the initial soluble vat feature but this is great to know

I love this method. The only things that made this feel sketchy was being told it wasn't sketchy and that manufacturers hate it. Make a cheap rig to keep tension on your FEP, and saying it is wat cheaper and easier than designing, printing or building a permanent mounting tools is making a disposable frame... I hate "company hates this trick" but I do love your content

@huyked

2 жыл бұрын

I also hate click-bait titles like, the TRUTH about..., or before you buy, you HAVE to watch this. Gets old.

I wonder if we could 3D-print a second layer for those one-part vat frames, enabling pre-tensioning.

@HiroCreations

Жыл бұрын

It honestly depends on each printer vat and more importantly how deep the channel is. I've gotten either either adding a single printed gasket layer or two printed gasket layers to work on certain vats (sainsmart KL-9) because it was deep enough to hold them, but it also required I swap the bolts used to secure them to flat heads vs socket head ones.

Next step, design a 3D printed or laser cut version that clamps the film. Next step, design a 3D printed tub for those printers that doesn't require this.

This is going to be a good tip.

You are a Hero to me

Thanks!

Sooner or later I need experience the 1st time to change my FEP, I hope with this method, it’ll work out so I can continue printing with the same quality as the old FEP from manufacturer ... :)

nice tip, thank you two years later

I learned that I don't have to worry about this with my Elegoo Mars. Very helpful information lmao.

Just changed FEP on sonic mini 4k... Wish I found this yesterday... now to wait for new sheets to arive...

Hey ppl so I'm new to this and I know this is an old video, so the FEP is similar to a drum head and if you go to a music store you can get yourself a head tensioner. I haven't used one but the other day I was tapping my Mars 2Pro FEP and realized that when I go to change it I will try it.

Found this by accident while searching for nFEP videos actually. Will try this trick out! Cheers :) Subscribed too! Will check your other content when I get a chance!

I have tiny little pieces of resin cured my feb sheet. Is there any way to remove that?