1944: Oh shit! It's a Jagdpanther. 2019: Holy shit! It's a Jagdpanther. This is awesome!!!

That Jgd Pz wasn't restored, it was resurrected as barely anything was left of the tank by the one picture briefly shown. What a job, but so well done and so worth the effort.

@khornatekrieger3023

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously. I've worked with a JgdPz in the Benning Armor Restoration Yard that has waaaay less damage to it. Like, just some shots from a Sherman Firefly in the hull and its waaay less operable than this thing.

@mrzucc3605

4 жыл бұрын

its a jagdpanther, not jagdpanzer

@smorgisborg1

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrzucc3605 jagdpanzer isn't wrong. Jagdpanzer was a classification that the jagdpanther came under.

@mrzucc3605

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Day that’s true. In this context it should be jagdpanther though.

@SvenTviking

4 жыл бұрын

Was the “Pig’s head mantlet” replaced because when I worked at the IWM, a guy came around and took wire frame cross sections of the museum’s Jagdpanther mantlet because they needed to cast a new one for a restoration.

Another thing. I don't think I've ever seen Mr. Doyle so very happy as when talking about this jagdpanther. His enthusiasm for the project is obvious and knowing from another video that it's his favorite AFV because his long time friend and collaborator on much of his writings served in one just makes this all the more enjoyable.

@tivet4

Жыл бұрын

Jagdpanther Restoration

That's a mighty big Hetzer you got there.

@beanhavok2287

4 жыл бұрын

Yah. But that cat dont hetz!

@Lo-tf6qt

4 жыл бұрын

@@beanhavok2287 Hetzer's gonna Hetz!

@giroromek8423

4 жыл бұрын

Nein! I'm just happy to zee you.

@MikaelKKarlsson

4 жыл бұрын

I'd take five Hetzers over one of these in my division any day, thank you very much. ;-)

@mandernachluca3774

4 жыл бұрын

@@MikaelKKarlsson I'm not sure, the Hetzer is cheaper but the poor people in the compartment have no moving space at all. The Jagdpanther might not be that bad of a choice ;D.

"The Germans always had special tools" A statement that rings true to this day... I am in the continuing process of restoring a 1977 R100RS BMW motorcycle, All of the special tools are made from unobtainium or require the sacrifice of a testicle to purchase. I have come to the conclusion that the Germans dont do anything without a special tool requirement lurking in the fine print somewhere. Excellent reserection of a totally destroyed machine, thanks for posting.

@mandernachluca3774

4 жыл бұрын

Well the obvious negative is the need for a special tool. The not so obvious positive thing about a special tool is the almost complete freedome of designing the parts for specific uses without the need to include holes, chamvers or right angles needed or specific dimensions for seperation respectively montage of a part. I never needed a special tool to change the tothed belts of VW engines but the special tool makes the process almost fool proof and a lot less time consuming.

@GARDENER42

4 жыл бұрын

As the owner of a 1990 BMW K75s, I can only commiserate...

@genericpersonx333

4 жыл бұрын

@@mandernachluca3774 Pretty much exactly the point of the German engineering tradition! Very nicely said. Trying to make most products use a small but universal tool set has its perks, but the definite cost is that many products will not be as efficient as they could be because they had to conform to the available tools. German engineering firms usually preferred to fine-tune the tools to work best for their products because the products can then be fine-tuned to perfection without need to defer. Neither system is wrong, just have different problems associated with them over the long-term. For sure, the truest losers are people trying to keep obsolete equipment running without having to sell gonads to finance it. I feel your pain, @dhc4ever

@dougstubbs9637

4 жыл бұрын

Try working on anything French. Almost every task requires special tools. Also on the subject, I feel the British require a shout out. I firmly believe their engineers are lazy, making machines very difficult to work on, a bit more effort could have made them impossible to repair.

@dhc4ever

4 жыл бұрын

@@dougstubbs9637 Having worked on US, French and a smattering of British aircraft over the last 40 years I feel qualified to agree with you. The French never got over loosing 2 world wars and always do things the French way, the English have a multitude of specifications and measurements dating back to the dark ages and a political system guarantee to shoot most successful designes in the arse for something less capable or cheaper. The USA is vaguely aware there is a world outside their borders and have yet to implement metric, but their stuff is usually good to work on. Zee Germans well that's how this discussion started they also haven't gotten over loosing 2 world wars and just build things their way. Cheers

What a remarkable restoration. I am so glad there are people who care enough to keep this living history alive.

American WW2 tank maintenance philosophy- "Undo bolts, throw M1 spare from the fifty we have at the motor pool (stop by PX on way first for a prophylactic kit...we are in France after all..) smoke a Chesterfield, and good to go. German- "We have zis special highly engineered jig to take apart our highly engineered tank and if we are lucky enough to have a spare that our mechanics fist fought for at the rail head vere good... Russian - Hit with hammer, if no work replace tank. Soldiers and tanks are cheap comrades. British- Get part with officers approval, have tea, spend 6 hours hand fitting otherwise beautifully made part to fit, have tea, good to go..

@mandernachluca3774

4 жыл бұрын

Well the obvious negative is the need for a special tool. The not so obvious positive thing about a special tool is the almost complete freedome of designing the parts for specific uses without the need to include holes, chamvers or right angles needed or specific dimensions for seperation respectively montage of a part. I never needed a special tool to change the tothed belts of VW engines but the special tool makes the process almost fool proof and a lot less time consuming.

@francesconicoletti2547

4 жыл бұрын

Dan Schneider you missed the part with the German- send tank back to rear echelon maintenance depot , the only place maintenance jigs exist , over overstretched railway lines.

@tomb66

4 жыл бұрын

American engineer here. We are still strongly discouraged from requiring a special tool unless access control is important (i.e. preventing "maintenance" by someone utterly unqualified to do it). Its for the engineer's benefit almost as much as the users. No one wants to have to machine a special tool for a few thousand dollars just to put the prototype together.

@danschneider9921

4 жыл бұрын

@@francesconicoletti2547 its implied. Didn't want to write a novel of a comment. Also left out the part if you dont fix correctly you're shot by the Gestapo as a saboteur.

@snsm6730

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomb66 It is GRATIFYING to see an engineer understands this 8) Have had to do my own maintenance over the years for budget reasons and "special tools" are an INFURIATING bane...I have passed on some nice used cars because I noted in the Chilton the need for such things...

Reborn out of the literal ashes of British target ranges and looks beautiful. They almost don't seem real seeing them in colour after years of seeing them in black and white books and film or at best coloured pictures. Love seeing these war machines given a new lease on life.

We need to get these guys' knowledge documented in detail before they disappear.

@Mugdorna

4 жыл бұрын

CheshireTomcat68 Hilary has done quite a number of quite detailed books.

I love seeing guys who are passionate about a subject taking about their hobby. It might be the closest thing you will ever see to pure happiness, excepting small children.

So, seeing as you and Hilary know each other, and Hilary is on the Weald Fondation BoD, Jagdpanther Inside the Chieftain's Hatch when?

@hilarylouisdoyle1529

4 жыл бұрын

Just become a member of Weald Foundation - the HQ is not that far away from you!

@CallanElliott

4 жыл бұрын

@@hilarylouisdoyle1529 True, but I'm not the Chieftan.

A beautiful restoration. It's a shame that you don't see many, but that's what makes rare restorations like this special.

Saw one at Military Odyssey a couple of years ago, standing next to a 4 gun battery of 25-pounders, the Jagdpanther was on the other side of the field. 25-pounders gave a good account of themselves, but when the Jagdpanther fired, everybody jumped in the air ...

@genericpersonx333

4 жыл бұрын

Always loved watching people be shocked when they see how big a bang AT guns make! Forgotten Weapons has a great video of a PAK 40 75mm which shows just how huge the shell cases and blast of that gun are. Compare that to a medium charge for a 25-pounder and it really hammers home the point that different guns doing different jobs will be very different experiences for the firers.

@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl

4 жыл бұрын

The 25-pounder was a war winner the Jagdpanther was not. Try to take out infantry in a town or city and see what is more effective. People are too obsessed with AFV's. German armour was ahead of it's time and so was allied artillery. Watch the movie 'Danger Close' and you see basic allied WW 2 technology in regards to artillery was still effective in the 60's.

@ValentineC137

4 жыл бұрын

@@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl this has absolutely nothing to do with what they're talking about but 'k

@23GreyFox

4 жыл бұрын

@@CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl You never saw a sFH18 do you?

@geldoncupi1

4 жыл бұрын

@@CharlesvanDijk-ir6blyou're based on hollywood movies, you moron! The history is different!

My favorite tank of all time.The Jagdpanther. WW II's best fighting vehicule. THe speed of a Panther , the gun of a King Tiger and better armor than the Panther as it lacked weak points and was lower. Kill anything at distance. Move when needed with great speed!! My personal WW II vehicule of choice ever since the mid 1970's! Beautiful.

I could listen to Hilary all day

Crazy restoration, the interior probably looks better than new

Amazing work and always nice to see Hillary Doyle's knowledge being displayed. In fact...a second Operation Think Tank...would be the best thing ever.

@frbe0101

4 жыл бұрын

Hillary Doyle, Tanks historian, with 32 books to his name, He is perhaps the most knowledgeable person left alive on WW2 German tanks.

An impressive amount of effort that went into making her whole again. Thanks for sharing.

This is the AFV equivalent of the old classic car restoration saw about, "taking pile of rust flakes and turning them back into a car." Almost beyond belief to see what they started with and how it ended up. Big salute to the Weald Foundation from this old soldier.

Great to see the Jagdpanther rolling around. I would love it if it could be taken to a range to fire it's gun again!

I always thought the JPan was the coolest looking AFV ever.

@WarReport.

4 жыл бұрын

That and the hunting tiger both looking fucking mean and were.

@chuckcribbs3398

3 жыл бұрын

At least it was roomy inside!

@Loki52020

3 жыл бұрын

It is.1 of the most effective too

This is an amazing piece of craftsmanship. To see how it looked on the range, and now this...is just wow.

My favorite WWII AFV. Always just loved the lines of the Jagdpanther.

Beautiful restoration and 2 really great experts talking us through the vehicle.

Hilary Doyle is the most knowledgeable person in the world regarding German WW2 Panzers.

Still probably the most beautiful armored vehicle.

I helped to restore a Soviet SU-76 but it was in mint condition compared to this wreck that has been so lovingly restored. Bravo, a work, well worth the doing. I had about 2,500 hours invested in the Suka and I loved every minute of it even the endless hours sandblasting the hull.

I could listen to Mr. Doyle forever, just as much as Chieftain. So much awesome knowledge. I'm glad that he does some videos to record some of these experiences that might not be found otherwise.

you can really tell Hilary is passionate about this, very nice

It's amazing the Germans were able to still do all the things necessary to produce such a vehicle so late in the war.

Video is 19 minutes and 44 seconds.... I see what you did there, sneaky chieften

@ItsDavieman

3 жыл бұрын

when its actually 43seconds for some people ouch rip joke

4:22. Oh bugger, the tank was on fire.

@Jakezillagfw

4 жыл бұрын

😂

I really like that Mr. Doyle makes an effort to pronounce the vehicles names and german cities the right way, English speakers rarely do that!

What a great guy to interview. He certainly was excited to tell the history of it. Hopefully, you'll get him to show off more vehicles in the Weald collection.

Did it come with the original 75 year anti perforation warranty? Against, stone chips, rock salt, trapped moisture, the odd 76mm A/P round or the equivalent H/E?

This is the most beautiful TD ever made, IMO.

So sad so many historical tanks end up on ranges. Im a big fan of conquours id die to see a running specimen in person but so many ened up on ranges.

@HondaNsrFan

4 жыл бұрын

Well, back in the days it was just 'trash'. There is a video about the Soviet ATGM Malyutka, were they shoot at Pz. 4s... Nowadays nobody blinks an eye when they shoot up T72s or T55s. But indeed very sad

@ValentineC137

4 жыл бұрын

@@HondaNsrFan well the difference is that T-72s and T-55s are still plentiful because they were so mass produced

@UkrainianPaulie

4 жыл бұрын

Because in the US, they always need vehicles for ranges etc. Also, after you demilled them, you just could not put them up for auction. So it was easier just to park them on anti-tank, MK-19 or mortar ranges etc. Yes it is sad, but the US Army isn't the restoration business. Taxpayer dollars are spent on new and current vehickes, not 70 yo tanks.

@Riceball01

4 жыл бұрын

@@UkrainianPaulie You can totally put an old tank up for auction and you don't need to demil them either, just remove any sensitive equipment on it and that's it. How else do you think these private collectors get their hands on all of their tanks? Steal them? Just look The Chieftain's series of videos from the Rock Island Arsenal where he does several inside the hatch videos on tanks and other vehicles being offered up for auction.

@spyderyaxis88

4 жыл бұрын

Well i think that considering the relatively low production numbers of some tanks like the jagpanther and the conq its a shame the rare ones end up as scrap but then im the kind of guy that would rescue every dog in need if i could.

I've seen Hilary Doyle in another Chieftain vid and his knowledge of German WWII tanks is amazing.

This astonishingly beautiful and even more impressive what they've managed when you popped that pic up, the left was completely gone and blown away. Simply amazing work, I wish all the best to the Weald Foundation.

Jagdpanther: By October 1944, the final drive problems had been worked out, lifting the expected life of the final drive from about 150 kilometers to over 500 kilometers. A skilled driver could get much more from it. Most of the other reliability issues were also resolved by Oct. 1944

for me personally the Panther and Jagdpanther are some of the most beautiful engineering ever created by man , total harmony between man and machine

I love how passionate he is about these tanks

I am continually amazed at all you restorers the effort and dedication to preserve these vehicles .

I recall photographing a Jagdpanther at War&Peace show, around 2009, must have been that one i suppose. Wot a beast.

It’s in showroom condition, except for the missing side skirts!

@genericpersonx333

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, side-skirts had a habit of falling off continuously during the war, so it still reasonably representative. :)

@mikemurley8656

4 жыл бұрын

Factory option

@DJW1981

3 жыл бұрын

@Rafael Enriquez They didnt. They mean the plates alongside the tracks.

Most beautiful piece of deadly steel ever!!!

That's the spirit: You can participate from all over the world today, even the also very important background research, the story around this all. I for example in Hannover, where the MNH (Maschinenfrabrik Niedersachsen Hannover) produced til '45 and near the memorial of the KZ-Außenlager Hannover-Ahlem, where all the forced labourers were imprisoned under the worst conditions, forced to build the production facility for the Panthers (and other Warmaterial) 12 hours a day. It had the highest mortality rate of all KZs in and around Hannover, in times around 44 people the week (!). These are awesome machines and SO much worth to preserve in running order, but all the crimes that were commited to establish these accomplishments are important to remember too, IMO.

@Deathbyreality1

4 жыл бұрын

All the more important to preserve them, so stuff like this is remembered and not forgotten.

hey chieftain i went to the American heritage museum in mass and it was amazing

@joearnold6881

4 жыл бұрын

I took my father for Father’s Day. I was wicked impressed.

@john88benson

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, I did not realize anything like this even existed in the Bay State. I guess I have a weekend trip destination in the near future.

@828enigma6

4 жыл бұрын

Glad to hear of the museum, but there are those, myself included, that consider that state to be enemy occupied territory due to their draconian firearms laws.

I'm a scalemodeller and this kind of video's with inside and outside details are very interesting.

Wow. I’m completely blown away. Thank the gods people like these guys exist to keep this history alive. I hope I can see this in person before I die.

Wait, did he say they were working on an AUTOLOADER for the Jagdpanther? That's crazy that they were working on such an idea in '44.

@tankolad

4 жыл бұрын

It was not a new idea even in 1944. It's just that there was never really a strong incentive to actually put one in a tank.

@mbr5742

4 жыл бұрын

Actually the 128mm FLAK had at least a loader-assist / automatic loader

Fascinating. Thanks for the great video/interview.

Fantastic video and unparalleled tank. Thank you and Hillary and the Weald Foundation for the restoration and for allowing you to make this video. Cheers

The size of those rounds! And you have two Jagpanthers, this one from the 116th Windhund Div no less. If I ever win the lotttery, I am getting one...

Bravo for the Weald Foundation.

Great information about The Weald Foundation, the Jagdpanther and great to listen to Mr. Doyle. Thank you.

I remember my dad telling me a story, about him shooting at Sd.kfz. 251 on a firing range with a M110 howitzer in the late 70's, or early 80's, in southern Germany.

A beautiful machine 😍 Thank goodness for the restoration team. She must be worth millions now

@bobbygreen2134

Жыл бұрын

It’s priceless as the only running Jagdpanther out there as far as I know

12:05 i was waiting for him to say "The ammunition is real."

What a beautiful restoration, well done and super work completed ! My favorite fettekatze ! Thanks for posting . :P

Well, I was at tankfest, and heard you telling the gentleman to talk about the vehicle as I was walking past. Disappointed to see that the video starts just a few seconds after I walk past the frame :D

Fantastic video, and thank you and Hillary Doyle very much!!!!

Hilary is fantastic!!! hugely knowledgeable and entertaining ti talk to i really enjoyed your interview with Hilary, and you yourself Nick your knowledge about tanks and armoured ehicles are equally immense great video,s as per usual from you , with a fantastic overview armour going back to when it started.

Wow, what an amazing project and an amazing effort by the Weald foundation. Thanks for this video!

Love the accent of Mr. Doyle, also he pronounces all the German names correctly!

Always loved the Jagpanzer for now other reason then it looks so beautiful!

Is anyone else giddy the time came out to be 1944?

Beautifully done

Can we take a second to stare in utter awe at the raw *size* of the ammunition? Jesus F. Christ, that's taking "serious firepower" to a wholly different level. It's one thing to read "the 8.8cm was a terrifying weapon", it's another to see those rounds sitting on the racks...

Now this is a beast.

Wow, amazing restoration !

Hm... I wonder if they could rebuild Maus. Yeah I know they tried and decided to make something else at kublinka. Still seeing a Maus rolling about would have been a sight to remember... At least we still have simulated Maus... But it lacks a bit.

@Biker_Gremling

4 жыл бұрын

Chieftain said that the amount of money required to restore the Maus was insane, and Wargaming just forgot about the idea because they weren't gonna make it back.

@Wolvenworks

4 жыл бұрын

@@Biker_Gremling preety much, yeah. what ppl who didn't watch the The Chieftain's Hatch vid for the Maus is that the Maus is currently completely gutted, so if the russians wanna restore it, it's gonna cost a lot of money to basically reconstruct EVERYTHING from scratch

@2adamast

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wolvenworks Not necessarily, as they start from scratch they could use a modern engine and (hydraulic)powertrain and make it run.

@Wolvenworks

4 жыл бұрын

@@2adamast depends. if the objective of the restoration is to make the maus move by any means possible that would be the solution. if they were to attempt a historically accurate restoration (which is what museums usually do), to put modern and unhistorical machinery would be sacrilege. so in this case they COULD, but you forgot to ask yourself if they SHOULD. in this case i highly doubt that they would ruin such a historical piece of machinery with a modern engine

Boy I love this channel.

Bravo. Not just for military history, but as an amazing example of historical preservation for current and future generations to learn about, and observe a part of real history from a very real war.

This is really, REALLY neat. The foundation did an astonishing resturation work with all the attention to detailing. Hilary also seem like a great guy with abundance of knowledge :) Thx for doing this vid, Chieftain. :)

The WTS in Coblence (Koblenz) is just a stone throw away from my place. I recommend to pay a visit.

Absolutely fantastic job. Always been fond of the Jagdpanther but there's so few of them in functional condition.

What great work and knowledge.

Very imformative video and the work of the Weald Foundation is greatly appreciated!

Marvelous bit of "re-manufacturing" of a total wreck that most would just walk away from, and who would blame them?

Should have him on more often.

My number one ☝️ favourite tank of ww2 so nice to see the interior for the first time excellent restoration and what an awesome beast 🤩❤️!!!

Great Vid, thanks for posting this!

One of my favs. Looks so menacing and slick.

Great video, Great job !

I love YOU for resoring this nice Jagdpanter :)

they basically built that tank looking at what it looked like i really dont want to know how much of a money pit that was but my god its beautiful and i love it my favourite tank destroyer and its operational

Thank you for the really great video. And the whole restauration. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇧🇪

This is my favorite tank ever and I’d love to go to see inside this one

Knowing that it had a semaphore has made the Jagdpanther infinitely cooler to me.

Jagdpanther of Theseus

A beauty. Thanks for the informative video.

Beautiful

hmmm, so, if they can rebuild a jagdpanther in that bad kit, then maybe there is hope for the churchill 3" gun carrier?

It's insane how big ww2 tanks are.

SUPER NICE !! Thank you very much. :)

An excellent video Chief Regards

I didn't know about the direction semaphore thing at all!

I am always surprised about how large these Jagdpanthers are.

@loke72

4 жыл бұрын

Its a Big Mother F....r

Eight fuckin' years... Got to applaud their dedication.