The Warped Side of the Universe: Kip Thorne at Cardiff University
Professor Kip Thorne is a theoretical physicist and Nobel laureate. In this talk he discusses "My Romance with the Warped Side of the Universe: from Black Holes and Wormholes to Time Travel and Gravitational Waves".
Kip is a world-leading expert on the implications of Einstein's theory of General Relativity, from time travel to wormholes, and from black holes to gravitational waves. Until 2009 he was the Feynman Professor of Theoretical Physics at Caltech, but has since retired to take up a new career in writing, and collaborations between science and art. He was executive producer and scientific adviser on Interstellar, the 2014 blockbuster film. One of Kip's key contributions was the visualisation of black holes and their surroundings, which contributed to the film winning an Oscar for "Best Visual Effects". Kip explained the science in the film in his 2014 book The Science of Interstellar. His many other multimedia projects have cemented his reputation to be able to explain complex concepts in ways that everyone can understand.
As one of the founders of LIGO (Laser Interferometer Gravitational Wave Observatory), Kip was awarded the 2017 Nobel Prize in Physics for "decisive contributions to the LIGO detector and the observation of gravitational waves, along with Rainer Weiss and Barry C. Barish. The first detection of gravitational waves by LIGO (of which Cardiff University is a member) in 2015 confirmed a key part of Einstein's theory of General Relativity, and observations have continued to test one of science's most famous theories.
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The world needs more people like this gentleman.
@GamingAmbienceLive
4 жыл бұрын
i wish he worked on fusion, something actually useful
@skynative0099
4 жыл бұрын
You ain't kidding..
@skynative0099
4 жыл бұрын
@Enter the Bragn’ are you suggesting Kip Thorne is a conman?
@Tom_Quixote
4 жыл бұрын
@@skynative0099 What do you expect from someone called "Enter the Bragn"? He probably feels intimidated by Thorne's intellect and decides to leave a quick slander of him and then run away.
@allanroser1070
2 жыл бұрын
The world needs more fairy tale tellers?
I was at this lecture, and let me tell you, this blew my mind. I had the pleasure of learning so many things I didn't know before. I went with a small group of scientifically gifted pupils from my school, we were invited by the university.
@izzyk-s4929
3 жыл бұрын
@@z9ao7v I only went because there was an empty space. I hated all science except for when we did classes on space. Lol, sorry if that sounded like I was boasting or something. I really didn't mean it like that 😔
@izzyk-s4929
3 жыл бұрын
@@z9ao7v oh that's so cool!
@Ac-nn1ii
3 жыл бұрын
But can you tie your shoes?
@izzyk-s4929
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ac-nn1ii LMAO, not untill I was 12 👀
@CabledThrottle
3 жыл бұрын
Subtle flex 💪🏻 lol
Explanation for Interstellar starts at 24:00. It has to do with what it would look like to the human eye. But watch the whole thing for God’s sake, Kip Thorne is a treasure.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
4 жыл бұрын
His contributions to Interstellar were....stellar.
@chrisstevens-xq2vb
10 ай бұрын
So infinite whatever bending nothing without force? This is pure garbage
@hiroto9726
10 ай бұрын
wdym by this? @@chrisstevens-xq2vb
@go-away-5555
8 ай бұрын
@@chrisstevens-xq2vbI have no idea what you're trying to say, but no. That's nowhere near what he says. You're very badly misunderstanding. Or more likely, not even attempting to understand what he is saying.
@go-away-5555
8 ай бұрын
@@chrisstevens-xq2vbHonestly this whole talk is at an early college level. So if you're not understanding it, I just hope you're young and you'll get it one day. Otherwise.... 😬
I never thought that I’d watch a 75 minutes long “science lecture “ in one go. What a man! Kept me glued to the screen.
Kip Thorne is always worth a listen. Kudos also to the sound and image person(s) for recording this lecture perfectly.
@vivianng7054
4 жыл бұрын
His lecture is perfect!
@paddymcdoogle6753
3 жыл бұрын
He's boring to listen to.
@ossiedunstan4419
3 жыл бұрын
If you are into creation based bullshit being sprayed as science.
@justinh1433
3 жыл бұрын
Couldn't stand the rhetoric of absolute fantasy this cretin pushes. Nothing in this lecture is tangible or demonstrable empirical evidence . No one has been to the Moon or supposed space, complete pseudo science and brain washing.
@justinh1433
3 жыл бұрын
@@ossiedunstan4419 As no one has been, gone or going to supposed space. As just the other week the actor Hopkins dropped it's stage prop, the inflatable globe on board the supposed ISS fantasy station. The globe dropped straight to the ground and Hopkins is in a so called weightless environment. Kip loves paper, chalkboards and magical words such as 'gravity", 'gravitational waves' and 'worm holes'. So are you into pseudo science such as this lecture?
HE JUST MAKES IT SO CLEAR AND EASY TO GRASP. AS SOON AS HE SAYS SOMETHING WHERE YOU HAVE A QUESTION, HE FOLLOWS RIGHT UP AND ANSWERS THAT.
@CharlieMayer1986
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your enlightening comment.
@RSClassicAngel
3 жыл бұрын
@Mick Ronson your caveman brain just can't process what he's saying
@thegreathadoken6808
3 жыл бұрын
That would be a skill that all good teachers would have after so many years of teaching, surely. He's a brilliant, talented man, certainly.
@duneideannaer5990
2 жыл бұрын
I know I found this too. And that’s with the speech impediment.(I appreciate not everyone spots it?)
Kip Thorne is just so good in explaining stuff. Watched the whole video in one sitting At 2 am .
@Isibor
Жыл бұрын
Legend
@reneroux2391
Жыл бұрын
Same here 3AM
I absolutely love his modesty and thanks to his team in the beginning, very respectable.
@alijassim7015
4 жыл бұрын
Well, modesty aside. It is the truth.
@thangs
4 жыл бұрын
@@expertinanything5462 That's a pretty jaded take, don't you think? You even go as far to add 'soooo disappointed' to make it sound even worse. Wtf made you such a grump?
@MrAlRats
4 жыл бұрын
And did you notice that he is so delighted with the discovery of gravitational waves that he periodically recreates the chirp sound with his mouth throughout the lecture.
@ProxCyde
4 жыл бұрын
@Enter the Bragn’ That all depends on your definitions. Don't be ridiculous.
@ericlabarge02
4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love the God complex. Its called theoretical physics for a reason! Because it's not facts they try there best to learn more and more about less and less until they know nothing at all!
I'm impressed at myself for thinking I understand these things.
@jimsteen911
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you do at some degree. Dont doubt yourself. Learn more and more
@Jordan-jv6kl
4 жыл бұрын
lmao
@davidroberts1689
4 жыл бұрын
@@Jordan-jv6kl me too.
@chrisw5742
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidroberts1689 "space" is a lie. See my vids. These guys are SCAMMERS.
@aylbdrmadison1051
4 жыл бұрын
@@chrisw5742 :
Less than 1 minute and I have a tremendous respect for the man.
@ossiedunstan4419
4 жыл бұрын
The matrix was the imagination of film writers ( who understand nothing of the real world ( Jupiter ascending is another one.), any one in science trying to use it as a foundation should be burnt at the stake ALIVE.
@Dewitt-b8n
4 жыл бұрын
@@ossiedunstan4419 we live in a matrix. But not in the movie sense.
An absolute masterclass in scientific communication to an eclectic, mixed technical and non-technical audience. He does it so effectively that it looks effortless… but in truth, this is one of the hardest things to achieve as a scientist, and I’ve seen other Nobel Laureates give lectures that were very hard to follow
I follow most topics on Physics and Space, yet I was able to learn something in this presentation, due to Dr. Thorne being a great presenter, and good production of this lecture. I remember watching live when the discovery of gravitational waves was announced, but this lecture put it in better perspective for me on the difficulty of that project. Incredible work and dedication by all of the people involved!
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
Spreading Fake-Facts and Misconceptions about People with Disabilitys is maybe not the most common problem but a problem still. kzread.info/dron/-QmN3iF9lORMn8BxkqeB4w.htmlabout Please do report this Person, as he is very Vile. Random comment? Yes. But whatever... please help. If this comment here does not contain any Link or URL, then youtube glitched out again and I'm sorry for making a rather nonsensical comment... ...
Anyone who could put on a shiny jacket for a physics talk is a courageous soul. Kip Thorne has always been an exceptional human being.
@sashapriboy
4 жыл бұрын
True
@JacobRG223
4 жыл бұрын
YesYes Yes we w
@Kalumbatsch
4 жыл бұрын
@Astute Cingulus Dude, you're just stringing scientific-sounding words together.
@craigwall9536
4 жыл бұрын
@Astute Cingulus When you have Weinberg standing beside you agreeing with you, then I'll be impressed. Hell, even *I* figured out that the Big Bang was an adiabatic phase transition, and I never spoke to Wheeler- I only stood next to him while he drank a beer at the Oklahoma State University Physic Club mixer. I missed Weinberg by a month at Austin.
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
4 жыл бұрын
Craig Wall you’re not impressed by Kip Thorne, and couldn’t resist name dropping in your comment? That’s just pretentious. I’ll bet you play bongos too and claim you did so first.
Kip Thorn is outstanding and clearly a good man too. I watch this lecture anytime I am troubled and need to take myself away. But what is also striking is the generosity and decency in the comments - Kip obviously attracts good people
A wonderful presentation. It is amusement to hear the story of GR (gravitational wave) and LIGO from Professor Kip Thorne who won Nobel prize for this job. Thanks for him and for University of Cardiff for this ‘memorial’ video. Human beings were non-existing when the incident happened 1.3 Billion years ago. This is amazing (!) Human-Brain’s capability to reconstruct the past and contemplate the future! This, in a sense, is a ‘Time-Travel’ but in what ‘space’; I don’t know. Anyway, Great scientists and engineers deserve the prize.
I’ve been waiting for this, a superb deep layman’s dive into cutting edge gravitational waves! Mr Thorne you’re an inspiration.
Best presentation on black holes i have seen.
Kip, you're a deity to us "Dumb asses" !! A big thanks to Bernie and Cardiff Uni for making this lecture available and so easy to understand.
What a wonderful man to keep giving of himself at 80 years of age. He's a treasure to the world
I am about 13 minutes into watching this. This is, by far, the best, most understandable, lecture, so far, on black holes, that I have seen, so far.
Thank you and congrats everyone involved because certainly nothing great can come without amazing collaboration, across the board no matter what the field right?! 🤚😆
Absolutely fascinating! Kip explained the creation of the universe, wormholes, time travel, and so much more, that my brain literally exploded, and I had to spend hours cleaning it off my walls and trying to stuff it back into my pathetically insubstantial cranium!
@isaacmadhavan
3 жыл бұрын
Ken Greenfield ---> So true!
"Interstellar" and "Arrival" are my 2 all time favourite film! I'm not what you'd call a "educated man" but since I left school (17 years ago) iv been obsessed with everything Physics related, iv read all Stephen Hawkins books aswell as other scientists books, (i have a portrait of Albert Einstein and Stephen Hawkins tattooed on my rib cage) and even tho I can't understand any of the real Math, people like Kip Thorne, Brian Greene, Leonard Suskind, they describe any of the subjects in a way I can understand and im slowly understanding more and more of whats being talked about. The book Kip Thorne wrote for Interstellar is absolutely brilliant, if no one has read it I'd highly recommend it 👌
I truly idolize Prof. Kip Thorne.
Love you Kip! Love what you said about collaboration! Respect!
This man deserves the Nobel Prize simply because of his lectures.
@kasozivincent8685
Жыл бұрын
This man won the noble prize
@Sagittarius-A-Star
Жыл бұрын
@@kasozivincent8685 I know.
@kasozivincent8685
Жыл бұрын
@@Sagittarius-A-Star cool.
As you read these comments you might notice those who have very great intelligence but suffer from lack of education and/or mental illness. To see a man such as Dr. Thorne who is both brilliant and mentally stable is remarkable. What he and others who are also so fortunate have done for us is amazing.
@rubenanthonymartinez7034
3 жыл бұрын
What exactly has Kip done for us?
Watching this video while the TV shows the local news in Brazil, I remembered the quote from the movie Contact: "You're capable of such beautiful dreams, and such horrible nightmares."
@kibouSRX
4 жыл бұрын
@Enter the Bragn’ kzread.info/dash/bejne/hm2lj9htnKWtpdo.html
This was so fascinating and inspiring.
This lecture is underrated, thank you Sir
thank you, sir .. for the statement about collaboration... science should never be a competition... if it becomes one... we won't get very far together... but together we certainly will
What a truly amazing man!
As a physicist, I had the chance to read the wonderful book written by this wonderful man having the same name as this lecture. I wish I also had to chance to learn how to make accurate measurements in Astrophysics as Mr. Kip Thorne during my PhD. venture... But, I conceptionally believe that time flows backwards inside a black hole. So your dear wife would have been getting younger as she were spinning inside a black hole... So a black hole must be the best place to get anti-aging therapy...
This man is wonderful. Thank you for being.
So who are those 180 people who downvoted this fantastic story? Are these 180 most powerful minds of our planet that know the real quantum gravity and just thumb down Kip as an amateur or better than 6σ proof that stupidity is still going strong?
@simonruszczak5563
3 жыл бұрын
Electric Universe Theory. (KZread, Thunderbolts Project).
@rubenanthonymartinez7034
3 жыл бұрын
Say if you believe this story, I like to sell you a bridge in Brooklyn, real cheap!
@Goettel
3 жыл бұрын
180 idiots, 329 now.
Prizes are nothing , but what are contributed to human developments or evolutions in science are priceless
Wow. Really really advanced physics
The orbit of the little black hole going around the big black hole seemed to me to be similar to an electron orbiting a proton.
@iqtime1400
2 жыл бұрын
If all the universe made by the same intelligence it not surprised that thing's looked the simelare
This may sound weird, but "Black Holes & Time Warps" actually changed my life.
@ajstephenson5583
3 жыл бұрын
how so?
@DavidVillasmil
3 жыл бұрын
@@ajstephenson5583 it turned me straight into physics, cosmology, particle physics, and just basically being an exceptic for the rest of my life, etc. it changed the way I saw the world as a whole. That book and “A demon haunted world” by Carl Sagan.
@ajstephenson5583
3 жыл бұрын
@@DavidVillasmil i’m glad man, I’ve recently got into astrophysics after taking a physics course in high school this year and I honestly have never been more fascinated by a subject in my life. Any other books you recommend?
@DavidVillasmil
3 жыл бұрын
@@ajstephenson5583 sure, I would highly recommend Brian Greene’s “The Elegant Universe”, I’ve never read a better explanation as to why time slows down as speed increases, it’s just amazing. I would also recommend Carl Sagan’s “Demon Haunted World” which really teaches us to be skeptic about everything we don’t yet know/understand, and the early work by Michio Kaku “Hyperspace” and “parallel worlds”, also very good reads. And on a different subject, but incredibly mind-opening book “Sapiens” by Yuval Noah Harari. Go to Amazon and search for “Cosmology”, there are some jewels there.
Great talk thanks for publishing.
An object whose circumference is less than it's diameter, purely through the warping of spacetime
The universe must be full of gravitational waves just like waves washing up on an ocean beach. We are probably surrounded by little black holes.
@Danuxsy
4 жыл бұрын
maybe we live in the ocean???
@steeniversen2590
4 жыл бұрын
Yes
I have been reading about his work in Analog SF&F fact articles, by John Cramer and others, for 26 years; so glad to finally put a person with the name. Inspiring guy.
Way better than church !!!! The only thing missing ( or i overheard it ) is a clear definition of "warped" , but _what_ a journey this was - i never got my PHD , but i sure got my PHEW here 💪🙏👊
@abhineet_2225
Жыл бұрын
I felt that too. What does warping actually mean..
@Flailfist_Jr
Жыл бұрын
@@abhineet_2225 Warping , as far i understand that SF term , is taking a kind of shortcut through the space-time continuum , like travelling through a wormhole which connects remote co-ordinates - it's Fiction , not Faction
@abhineet_2225
Жыл бұрын
@@Flailfist_Jr Ahh, okay. I always used to get confused when it was explained through the "paper folding" method. Like, how could space-time, a physical quantity be warped or curved that ways. Well, it's probably a thought I guess because it'd take negative matter (so as to have gravitational repulsion to sustain the pathway), which is far away from being considered as existential stuff🥲
15:30 black holes as large as the solar system. That really interrupted my train of thought to just consider it.
@yujenlin1197
4 жыл бұрын
Try looking up 'ton 618'. The largest black hole we know of right now. Keep in mind that it is very likely that a larger black hole exist. We just lack the methods to measure those
@FHBStudio
4 жыл бұрын
@@yujenlin1197 thanks, that was an interesting read!
@Lilmiket1000
3 жыл бұрын
lol, there is a place as big as the solar system in space somewhere that we have no clue what goes on inside of it. There could be a dancing unicorn inside but we can't prove, or disprove it. and we may never know. But to find out means to never return to tell anyone.
Questions: (1) What is space expanding into? (2) What is time? (3) Where does spacetime come from? (4) Why was the universe born hot and dense to begin with?
@dmign
4 жыл бұрын
1) nothing 2) entropy 3) the big bang 4) unknown
@aurelienyonrac
4 жыл бұрын
1) the big bang is not an ex-plosion, something that goes outside. The big bang is an implosion. So the whole universe is in a point right now as we speak. We are looking at the inside of a point from the inside. We are looking at the potential of a point.
@aurelienyonrac
4 жыл бұрын
4) the universe was born hot relative to the temperature now. The hot then got converted into the space now. At a quantum scale, the universe is eternally boiling. The boiling is fluctuating space time that is warped into what we call matter. So it turns out the universe is empty of objects.
@aurelienyonrac
4 жыл бұрын
3) space time is around the singularity like an electromagnetic field is around a planet. That is the simple version. A donut shape. Next step, every singularity is identical, only the surrounding (space time) changes. Now your donut has black holes that are connected at the center. Next step is stranger. Every point on the donut is a singularity. So where ever you are you are in the singularity as the singularity. You observe it all as space time.
@YYFGGUKYGJSHBJSHBJLS
4 жыл бұрын
1) Itself 2) Time is the measurement of the entropy of the Universe. 3) The Big Bang ... (part 2: And ... nobody knows. To be even more depressing, no one will EVER know) 4) Because that was the particular properties of the BB singularity (see answer 3 part 2)
Okay, a supermassive black hole exists in the center of our Milky Way, but what is more massive is his humbleness.
23:50 is where you get explanation of why the images are different!
4:45 there's always that student in the class that wants to write single word that comes out of teachers mouth.
@dockdyna
3 жыл бұрын
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This lecture is very informative.
YOUR CHANNEL IS FUN AND INFORMATIVE. 2 MASSIVE REQUIREMENTS IN MY LIFE AT THIS MOMENTUM
Damn, I studied astrophysics at Cardiff University. Shame I graduated way before this! Glad they're still smashing it over there.
I think I just felt my brain grow a little.
The low number of views on this video is a sign that the filter is of course ahead of us.
@SaeedAcronia
4 жыл бұрын
@Pulsar Zihad kzread.info/dash/bejne/h56osamJepO7grA.html
@kibouSRX
4 жыл бұрын
@Enter the Bragn’ kzread.info/dash/bejne/hm2lj9htnKWtpdo.html
This is absolutely mind blowing to comprehend, I'm mean come on, a singularity, warped space and time and the bulk? WTF
Absolutely brilliant. This is why I fell in love with astronomy
27:15 I loved not watching this simulation.
@itsKNR
4 жыл бұрын
Ein deutscher
@keith77mn77
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, thanks for leaving that out.
*Kip making dinner for his family* Son: "Why can't we have pizza tonight, dad?" Kip: "Well, you see son. You think we would be able to have pizza. However, when I was working on the set of Interstellar... "
There is a great idea! For the dark side of the Universe - suppose that it consists of short-term interactions in long-lived fractal networks, the smallest quantum operators - Spherical «rosebuds», consisting of a large set; 1 - rolled into a sphere, 2 - half rolled into a sphere and 3 - flat, vibrating quantum membranes relative to their working centers in the sphere.
Great lecture ..physics has come a long way …my pinnacle was learning h2o means water
I remember when this guy won the academy award for theoretical physics
@Jordan-jv6kl
4 жыл бұрын
When was that
@JuppyJuupp
4 жыл бұрын
Jordan oooo
@JuppyJuupp
4 жыл бұрын
Ooooiooo
@JuppyJuupp
4 жыл бұрын
Jordan oooooo
@JuppyJuupp
4 жыл бұрын
Jordan ooo
51:18 It's not flat? 🤔 I must have missed something. Is this new information, or did he misspoke?
@jojolafrite90
4 жыл бұрын
He is wrong. I really don't know why he says that. We can ever be sure if it's really flat, but for all we can measure, it's still as flat as it can be. Really wonder why he says that? Maybe he believes it to be the case, but he shouldn't say it in lectures. It's just wrong. There are also a lot of analogies that are at the edge of being wrong, if not plain wrong. Like saying a horizon is a sphere. It's not even a well defied region of space-time (it depends of where the observer is), and it's a pure surface, technically.
@rickitynick4463
4 жыл бұрын
@@jojolafrite90 Yeah, how dare he say the horizon is in the shape of sphere! Everyone knows black holes are square! Pure surface? Not a defined region of spacetime? The woo is strong with this one.
@TheMisterSvensson
4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Boyd I don't think anyone but you have said anything about a flat earth...
@TheMisterSvensson
4 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Boyd I understand your frustration. I too tend to think "oh, no, not again!" as soon as I see the word Flat. The crazy flerfers have been working hard on claiming that word, and unfortunately it looks like they are almost winning that race... But in this case I was talking about the Universe, wich for the majority of scientists in the field is thought of as being flat.
Very interesting listen! Thanks for sharing these lectures on KZread.
@slevinchannel7589
3 жыл бұрын
Spreading Fake-Facts and Misconceptions about People with Disabilitys is maybe not the most common problem but a problem still. kzread.info/dron/-QmN3iF9lORMn8BxkqeB4w.htmlabout Please do report this Person, as he is very Vile. Random comment? Yes. But whatever... please help. If this comment here does not contain any Link or URL, then youtube glitched out again and I'm sorry for making a rather nonsensical comment... ...
My, thats a sharp, shiny, sport coat. This was very engaging. Thank you.
John Wheeler has a nasty habit of producing superstars.
@bestowicprimer8835
4 жыл бұрын
I personally like hugh
@rubenanthonymartinez7034
3 жыл бұрын
John Wheeler also said "No phenomenon is a real phenomenon until it is an observed phenomenon." Unfortunately this is all data manipulation.
@zuzusuperfly8363
3 жыл бұрын
@@rubenanthonymartinez7034 I don't know what you're trying to say.
@rubenanthonymartinez7034
3 жыл бұрын
@@zuzusuperfly8363 I mean the, LIGO evidence (the chirp) given is not sufficient to justify the claim, it is like selecting one pixel of a single frame of a motion picture film reel and declaring you understand the entire narrative!
@zuzusuperfly8363
3 жыл бұрын
@@rubenanthonymartinez7034 You have to write a longer comment, man. I still don't know what you're trying to say. Evidence of what? Narrative of what?
Interstellar - an incredible movie, the phenomenal work! That film was made until this epochal M87 image showed up.
@vivianng7054
4 жыл бұрын
yup the photo of black hole just took in last year, but the movie is in 2014. How amazing he is!? His speculation is totally correct.
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
4 жыл бұрын
FYI, Kip Thorne was an “authenticity expert” hired by the director of Interstellar to make sure the story they told matched the actual known science at the time the movie was made.
@vivianng7054
4 жыл бұрын
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 yup, I have been watched Interstellar 4 times
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
4 жыл бұрын
Vivian Ng three times for me so far. I just can’t get enough of that film. Same with the films Contact, 2001: A Space Odyssey, its sequel 2010, and Arrival. I much prefer science fiction heavy on science/light on pseudo-alien melodrama.
@ekanshgupta2421
4 жыл бұрын
@@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 I liked apollo13 of tom hanks too
Why would someone give this a down vote?
@whirledpeas3477
3 жыл бұрын
Because they didn't enjoy it.
looking forward to see what's next.
55:09 "not an inverse square law" Way to bury your lead. MORE ABOUT THIS, PLEASE!
@powerzx
4 жыл бұрын
In normal case, gravity between 2 objects is 4 times weaker when object is moved 2 times further away from the other body. In a case of a black hole and some lighter object close to the black hole it isn't the same. It's very hard to describe in words how it looks like, but imgaine a twisted gear shaft (wider at one end). 1.bp.blogspot.com/-OkjFbNa5UEA/XXof5Rp_gvI/AAAAAAAABA0/t4RLFUGIZuUdLbw-LTZOQCNwoPXF9WHawCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/Helical%2Bgearshaft.jpg If a black hole was inside that gear, then smaller object would move up and down in those threads when moving to the center of the black hole. "Threads" are where jets form, when matter falls into a black hole.
@musicalfringe
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that this could be explained by analogy to special relativity. SR time dilation makes an object accelerate "not fast enough" for the applied force when it's close to lightspeed, and I believe you can model this as it accelerating normally in the Newtonian sense, but with the increase in time dilation hiding some of the speed increase in such a way that, by f=ma, the outside observer instead "sees" the object get more massive. This is only an analogy, but I think it works. The radiation of ever-stronger gravitational waves by e.g. co-orbiting black holes is a constant drain on their gravitational potential energy - it's why the GW reaches a sudden climax rather than asymptotically increasing in frequency. So in the same spirit of analogy, if you look at this from the assumption that GWs do not exist, that potential-energy drain looks like a gravitational force that increases in strength the closer together they get. Am I on track here anyone?
@theultimatereductionist7592
4 жыл бұрын
@@powerzx Describe it mathematically then.
@isaacmadhavan
3 жыл бұрын
@@musicalfringe Kip Thorne said that the generation of the GWs had consumed the mass of three suns. And that "chirp" did show increasing frequency which stopped as soon as the black holes merged. However, I feel that there's a corresponding reduction of frequency as the combined mass settles down.
@musicalfringe
3 жыл бұрын
@@isaacmadhavan Do the GWs continue at all after merging?
Don't read the comments, they're full of mouth breathers who think quantum mechanics isn't experimentally verified and black holes hasn't been observed. Educate yourselves, read about the history of the standard model, watch a documentary about how the black hole images were generated (Spoilers: two independent teams analysed the raw data while never taking a peek at the final results to prevent bias, and the resultin images matched)
@SMHman666
4 жыл бұрын
@witkrieg todd I wouldn't put too much faith in Dr. Pierre Marie when it comes to astrophysics. His ideas on CMB and BBR have been shown to be problematic on numerous levels.
@TheRealFlenuan
4 жыл бұрын
@@SMHman666 No need to put "faith" in anyone
@phillynott2459
3 жыл бұрын
I agree the comments are egregiously stupid. Anyone who can disprove the material being presented should do so and win their Nobel Prize
Great talk!
Absolutely a superb talk. the universe goes crazy inside a Black Hole.. Beyond comprehension.
@rubenanthonymartinez7034
3 жыл бұрын
beyond comprehension? Yes because it's not real, all these so-called geniuses have fooled themselves and the public!
@phantorang
3 жыл бұрын
@@rubenanthonymartinez7034 You are a denialist flerf, incapable of understanding physics.
@rubenanthonymartinez7034
3 жыл бұрын
@@phantorang then please enlighten me!
"There will be enormous surprises of which we cannot even dream today". I hope so. Because right now, it seems physics is a bit stuck.
@phaturtha216
4 жыл бұрын
They just need to accept the science shows the earth doesn't move.
@whynottalklikeapirat
4 жыл бұрын
@@phaturtha216 Talking point much?
@fernandoblanco3926
4 жыл бұрын
Well, let's not forget that science in reality it's an ever-changing tool we use to explain the things we see, it's not perfect and it doesn't have too, there are things that we will never get to see, but we can work around that using some logic, imagination and using what we have available at the time to somewhat get an approximation of how it might be, because there is no way we will never be able to prove what's inside a blackhole or what's beyond the observable universe, we went from worshiping gods to the empiric way in so little time (seeing humanity as a whole comparing them to other species) that, if we stick with this tool, we might be able to understand the universe in ways we can't even fathom right now, if we don't end up killing each other with that knowledge of course xD
@reellezahl
4 жыл бұрын
We will soon be deploying AI + GI in this field. In 10 years you won't recognise anything in science anymore.
@spacejunk2186
4 жыл бұрын
@@phaturtha216 doesnt move relative to what?
Do not read any other comment in this comment section.
@marihell4296
4 жыл бұрын
oh thanks for the advice, sir. It was worthy.
@muskyelondragon
4 жыл бұрын
Indeed. There is a rather odd character lurking down there at the bottom.
@benbooth2783
4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I looked down and now I understand.
@rhoddryice5412
4 жыл бұрын
@@benbooth2783 Well now I'll have to. I lost my freedom of choice.
@1SpudderR
4 жыл бұрын
Vaibhav Sati Hmm? Did you mean “on” Or “in” Which comment section?
What a League of Extraordinary People 🎆
I likk the fact that Kip sees black holes as not an accumulation of mass, but that is is pure warped space and time, capable of sustaining itself without the mass that created it in the first place.. Which is different from the mainstream view, that mass is the cause of the black hole sustaining itself.
49:50 maybe the Black Hole swallowed an dark Matter object?
17:38 the most interesting computer simulation of what a black hole looks like, ant the camera switches on the back of the heads of people in the room. Fail!
@jmmahony
4 жыл бұрын
This happens waaaay too often in videos of science lectures at universities. I think the actual camera work is coordinated by humanities majors, who just don't realize how important charts and graphs and other graphic data representations are.
@BlackGymkhana
4 жыл бұрын
@@jmmahony maybe it's a copyright problem?
I don't understand the interstellar comparison. He said the picture we took with the event horizon telescope is a view from the top that's why we don't see the disk, but our perspective from earth is towards the side so why doesn't it look like interstellar?
Could there be a connection between the strangely shaped orbits around a singularity and the unpredictability of electron position around a nucleus?
@tylerwantstobeacreator9936
3 жыл бұрын
Good point
The matrix was a documentary.
@Phelan666
4 жыл бұрын
The Matrix was a misinterpretation of Jean Baudrillard's Simulacra and Simulation.
aaAAUH?
@swine13
4 жыл бұрын
Once i noticed that, it became impossible to ignore. Tics are weird
Black holes and time warps. Kip S Thorne . A book all shelves should have.
How many times can you mention the movie Interstellar???
@rickitynick4463
4 жыл бұрын
As if you wouldn't mention being the scientific contributor to a major motion picture, especially if it's relevant to the talk.
heeeeIEGH
Electric Universe, not this trash!
Kip Thorne is a national treasure.
I don't get how/why the person who edited this video thought it was a good idea to switch to the camera at the back of the auditorium _whenever there was a video playing on the screens._ The close view single screen on the left of Kip Thorne has a very clear image and we can see what's going on perfectly. However the far view of the three screens is very blurry and we can barely see a thing. And yet the video switched to that camera whenever a video is playing for inexplicable reasons. It happened once with the first simulation of the black hole by Double Negative (17:33), it happened twice with the second simulation (at 23:43) which explained why there is a difference between the predicted black hole and the observed one, so I am quite certain it is a kind of bizarre, self-sabotaging pattern of the entire video.. _Why?_
@tonyrandall3146
4 жыл бұрын
Deserves expulsion. No chance of appeal.
@HelciusCabral
4 жыл бұрын
I believe it was because Kip was pointing with the laser pointer while explaining
Thank you publisher
Such a genius man.
Finally, I found this video
wonderful..thank you..
Impressive explanations. I kind of understand it now
As I understand it then, The circumference is inverse to the negative space (of a infinitely collapsing bubble).
@isaacmadhavan
3 жыл бұрын
@Enter the Bragn’ What, exactly, is space then? AND, while you're at it, what IS gravity?
@njosborne6152
3 жыл бұрын
@Enter the Bragn’ No time. Nospace👍🏽
- Kippy always rocks my boat of percieved reality!
John Archibald Wheeler and Kip Thorne, two icons of Physics
I sincerely hope Kip is having a wonderful evening.
Great session throughout. The Interstellar explanation was spectacular!
So if there is a merger of 2 x 30 solar mass black holes at Alpha Centauri, what would be the effects on the solar system?
23:00 Perfect