I was stationed at the Marine Corp base in 29 Stumps in the early '80's. I was married at that time, so I never lived on base, but instead lived in each town in the area. 29 Palms, Joshua Tree and Yucca Valley. Once, after being in the field for a week, my wife came to pick me up and as we headed home, she turned the opposite way that would have taken us home. When I asked her about the wrong turn, she said, without blinking an eye, "I moved us." "I found a nicer place in Yucca Valley." Being young and having little in the way of belongings, she was easily able to relocate us without needing help tp move. We both loved the desert. I think about it often.

@abbeyjane1306

2 жыл бұрын

Semper Fi, '72-76

@bloodyfinger5

Жыл бұрын

Was at the stumps in 80 , Semper Fi

@Tet68

Жыл бұрын

Marine Corps told me if they wanted me to have a wife they'd issue one to me, they never did.

@iamjackscompletelackofsurp9606

Жыл бұрын

29 stumps? 🤣

@bloodyfinger5

Жыл бұрын

@@iamjackscompletelackofsurp9606 It's a Marine Corps thing

My dad used to own land out there with an old cabin on it. He didn't go up there for a couple of years and vandals trashed the cabin. Sometimes I really hate people.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

It boggles my mind why people do stuff like that.

@bipedaltoolmaker

Жыл бұрын

One of my best and oldest friends has a cabin in the park. We went to the Wall Street Mill in maybe 1981, the Worth Bagley stone was there unvandalized and the mill and well were unfenced.

@redtobertshateshandles

5 ай бұрын

Get drunk and high on drugs and destroy stuff. It's the Anglo Saxon way. 😂

@SavedbyGraceAlone1962

3 ай бұрын

Love trumps hate

Met a park historian who told us the whole story. One important factor to his conviction was Keys was issued a free range permit to raise cattle during the war. The deputy sheriff investigating the shooting had a side business and wanted the permit. It was found later that much of the evidence against Keys was fabricated. When he went to prison the permit was transferred to the deputy sheriff who was later elected sheriff. Keys never held a grudge though and considered his prison years his “college” education and furthered his education. For more info there is a book called Ambushed The story of Bill Keys.

I saw that stone that Key's carved about Bagley. When I was young I was big into rock climbing and my buddies and I would make extended trips to Joshua Tree in the 70's and 80s. Back then it wasn't a park, it was a National Monument. At that time almost no one went there. Then in the late 70's early 80s it became a world known climbing meca. People would come from all over the world to climb there. In the early/mid 90's it became a National Park complete with tourist and fees. That place is full of history and many interesting things, like several grave stones, large boulders hollowed out with iron doors on them, complete with incredible stories if true, and hobbit houses like the first one you saw and did not go into. I used to love spending time there.

I have been there a few times. My Taxi Company used to take military personnel from Ontario, Ca. airport to 29 Palms base. Once I was driving and my Cab had a breakdown just past Joshua Tree City. The passenger hitch-hiked the rest of the way. While I waited for a tow truck. The time was 2:30am, I watched the desert night sky resting atop my engine hood & it was fabulous!

@hjemison

Ай бұрын

I live in Arizona now but many years ago (50+years ago) I was pulled over by Arizona State Police for speeding at 2 am on I8. I swear they came out of my trunk! Anyway, the two officers and I watched the night sky with no light pollution. We watched a meteor shower and it looked like you could touch the stars!

During my visit to Joshua tree last year, I was looking for the nearby dam and got off course and walked down to where that first rusted out car was. I never heard of this story, but now I wish I knew. Anyway, I turned back and never saw the mill or the death site, so darn! But thanks for showing us that! So neat!

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

With everything being so flat it is easy to get off course there. The dam parking was jam packed on our trip, but hardly anyone was heading towards the mill.

What an interesting adventure- reminiscent of Huell Howser.

@kurtweiand7086

Жыл бұрын

It just doesn't get any better then this.🤣. A classic Huel Houser saying!

Joshua Tree has so many hidden treasures and full of history. Nicely paced explore.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Its so much fun to explore.

My dad, along with us kids, started exploring Joshua Tree in the 50's. He moved to the town in about 1979 and loved Joshua Tree. I think he explored every inch. My grand daughter goes there often.

I really like this cinematography. I feel as if I'm actually hiking through the brush with Big Steve.

I was there right after Keys died everything was intact. Alot of his cars were still registered. He had alot of old cars .no fence back then it wasn't a park, You could stay as long as you wanted and it was free

I love this stuff. Interesting story, especially the Earle Stanley Gardner tie-in. I started watching the Perry Mason reruns when I was in college in the 1980s. Great comment below about this story being incorporated into the show. It's still fun to watch episodes now and then, especially to see guest stars like Leslie Neilson, Burt Reynolds, Michael Landon, Gary Collins, etc., who later became famous, but had only bit parts at the time. My Dad grew up in LA, and remembered the old Victorian Era County Courthouse that was replaced by the 'modern' one featured in the show's intro. Nice to see so many others still have interest in this local California history. Thanks, Steve.

Great trip! Hearty souls running a remote mine in the desert!

I stumbled across your channel and wanted to share what an amazing job you do! You’ re engaging, provide very interesting information, and have an excellent eye for what worked find interesting. I think I’ve binged watched fifteen episodes! Excellent work!

@SidetrackAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that.

@robinparkes988

5 ай бұрын

That’s exactly what happened with me. What brilliant informative snippets of information, delivered in a relaxed and very watchable style 🇬🇧

@robinparkes988

5 ай бұрын

That’s exactly what happened with me. What brilliant informative snippets of information, delivered in a relaxed and very watchable style 🇬🇧

Joshua Tree has a sweet spot in my memory. Camped & hiked there in the 80s, usually near the south entrance.

@1981menso

2 жыл бұрын

I went backpacking there for three days in '85 and didn't see a soul. It was a magical place, it's still great but there are a lot more people there.

@jerroldkazynski5480

2 жыл бұрын

@@1981menso I was in the 29 Palms area not long ago, and visited the Joshua Tree visitor center to "catch up." Couldn't believe the growth. Didn't have time to travel into the Park. The gift shop and modernization told the tale.

These adventures are so cool. I love these little snippets of California history. Thanks so much for doing these !

The truck in the wash just north of the mill building was actually a converted limozine.The give away was the roo=ll dowb=n window at the rear of the driver compartment. The car was of extremely high quality when it was made. Most of the metal work of the cab and fenders were made fro hand formed aluminum and aircraft quality tubing and fitting under the dash, were a surb=prise. I could never find any ID indications but the aluminum block V8 engine with an updraft carb could probably help with an investigation. The forest service burned the old cabin that was about 15 feet West Northwest of the well which is about 15 feet deep. It is a shame they destroyed the cabin because it was in fretty fair condition. Above the fire place was the outline from smoke of a flintlock rifle.

@peterhodgkins6985

Жыл бұрын

The flathead V8 in the late 40s and early 50s was used in some Ford Trucks and in certain Lincoln Continentals. So your information is probably right about that being a converted limo. Most likely a high-end Lincoln.

@orangecatfarm7194

Жыл бұрын

It is a Lincoln, judging from the lights and the molding on the doors, a 1930 model. It also used to have side mounted spare tires; the bracket is still in place. Large cars were sometimes converted to trucks by later owners due to their large engines and heavy duty chassis. Also, during world war 2, work trucks qualified for additional gas rations over cars.

@louisliu5638

Жыл бұрын

@@orangecatfarm7194 that car shown first also has a very strong inline six; lots of torque; around that mine you'd need vehicles well built. You just know they're going to be used for real work!!

@straybullitt

Жыл бұрын

I concur. It's a 1930 Lincoln L-series chassis.

@dougtodd305

10 ай бұрын

1930 Lincoln ,it was converted to a truck long ago

Excellent video! Thanks for sharing all of the history that you researched. Yes, those old vehicles left at these sites are something else. In my opinion, it’s rare to find screens in the windows of these old structures like you mentioned. I know when I explored the Moser Mine in Joshua Tree, the cabin out there had all its screens still in place. I just don’t find intact windows anywhere else, it seems. Cool video! Keep ‘em coming!

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

It was weird because the glass was long gone but the screen survived!

@tomg3290

Жыл бұрын

How far from burrago?....low dessert ,seams familiar...well we'll well

@brianmccarthy5557

Жыл бұрын

@@tomg3290 If you mean the Anza-Borrego area and Borrego Springs that's way down in San Diego County. This is the high desert. Joshua Tree National Monument. Nearby are 29 Palms, Yucca Valley and the Marine Corps Training Base. Pretty well known area.

@tomg3290

Жыл бұрын

@@brianmccarthy5557 theses daze -!- I dream the damn eskers of wes Wisconsin snows are dusty dry gulches an blowin sands -0- ole burrago. All jumping cactus an occitillo...all sandz...no cold.!.

the book “Ambush” by Kidwell about Keyscand the gunfight was kind of hard to find but really good. I wish we went the site when we were checking out the Keys ranch that’s still there. His dam is amazing. Keys used a Remington Model 8 semi auto in I believe .30 caliber for those interested in that stuff. A You Tube vid on Keys shows him in later years holding the gun, unless it was a replacement, the other possibly confiscated by police as evidence. Good video with excellent photography. Very tough people to live and thrive in such a harsh place. Bagley, not so much I guess.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Will have to check the book out. I see its available on Amazon.

I love the desert.. thanks for taking us all along..

Great video my friend. I was at that exact spot back in the mid 90's taking some B/W photos. I wish I could post here at your video but I noticed that everything looks much more decayed today from the time I was there. The car especially look in bad shape. Thanks for sharing.

I live in the desert SW Texas, I understand about the sand really well! When my parents first bought their house, the area was just under residential development in the 60's, but there was still desert around them, and when our windy season came up, which always was in the springtime, we'd have hard winds of 50mph to even 70mph, the sands from around the desert would blow the dirt into the yard and pile up like a mountain of sand, it was really hard the first years of living there, until they were able finish the home development that were built all around, plant trees, grass and bushes, other buildings around, and that stopped the dust from then on.

I really love this kind of knowledge. I would like to spend the rest of my life as a friend of your's. Very interesting as always. Tack från Sverige

Very cool and great story.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Thanks for sharing.

Man I love your videos. Thanks.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 ай бұрын

Glad you like them!

Love Joshua Tree National Park … Remember when it was Joshua Tree Monument … I lived about 10 miles away from there .. Just moved … Please checkout Pioneertown!!! … It’s about 3 miles north of Yucca Valley .. great historical western town … Many movies were filmed there … It was founded by movie stars … Today it is still a great “living “ town. … It will not disappoint!!! … Also Twentynine Palms nearby has gorgeous murals on the city buildings … Love your videos … Happy Trails ❤️❤️💯💯😀😀🌴🌴🌴🌴

Awesome car!! That would make a good lawn ornament!!

Thank you sir for the video I enjoyed it very much. God bless and stay safe your friend from Stuttgart Arkansas

From the quick look at the engine in the truck, it appears to be a Ford flathead engine. The flathead engine was used between the mid’30’s and the early’50’s.

Thank you very much for this and all the other videos you made. I like it to listen to your explanations and the calm way you let us see the sites. Great you do

Another fascinating obscure tale, keep up the good work MrSteve!

Love the shot of you walking the trail with all the Joshua trees. Very cool!

Thanks for sharing your little day trip, and also for letting us know how easy (or not easy) it is for folks to reach various site.

Yet another interesting adventure -- Thanks!

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks, that was fun, like all your videos are. I enjoy what you do because at this age, my wife and I can't walk distances anymore. But we used to explore a lot.❤

Your videos are a veritable treat....i got transported to those distant, remote and abandoned lands...i literally had a walk-thru...thank you

@SidetrackAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it!

Great narrative. Thank you I like walking with you. Blessings

Yours is a select number of channels I subscribe to which I turn on all notifications. I’ve been going through the videos from prior to finding you.I’m always delighted to get new notifications. This is one that I was catching up on. All your adventures are equally enjoyable.

@SidetrackAdventures

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I really appreciate it.

thanks for a great interesting video in Joshua Tree. must go there sometime.

First time I went to Joshua Tree I was 11 and in Boy Scouts in 1968. We must have been close to this site as we were in The Wonderland of Rocks. I'd never heard of this site and the gunfight before. In 1968 the vandalism had just started in earnest as hippies were beginning to infest the area and make it dangerous. You know; Peace and Love and Charlie Manson. Coming from an old LA family I recognize that an LA Sheriff leaving the department in 1938 to live in the High Desert was probably a very bad sign. Bagley seems almost certainly a very bad guy. A guy who had friends in the corrupt LA Establishment of the time, which led to Key's imprisonment. If I remember correctly this story was adapted into more than one Perry Mason episode, though I've only see the old reruns. Great story. Thanks for taking us along. As others have said, you seem to be channeling a little Hugh Howser in some of your programs. Good stuff! Happy Thanksgiving.

Very interesting story. Thank you as always & greetings from the Sunshine State.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

That's cool ur visiting that site ! I was there with my ancestrallands conservation crew and cleaned that wall street mill up and planted some plants in the roll out areas with the park rangers .

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

That's really cool. Have always wanted to do something like that but timing has never lined up.

That is quite the story. 1943 is pretty late in history for a gunfight.

@steves7896

2 жыл бұрын

Especially while America was at war. Selfishness knows no bounds.

@IEchuckie

Жыл бұрын

In the desert, time stands still for some

@ndcw918

Ай бұрын

Gunfights occur in major American cities to this day. They are just not romanticized like the old west days.

Hello, I am new here. I just wanted to say that I enjoy your channel. I enjoy your voice. Your voice is very easy. Easy like Sunday morning. You are good at this. I enjoy the places you go and the stories . Keep up the great work.

VERY VERY COOL..KEEP UP THE GREAT VIDEOS..SAFE TRAVELS..

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Good video! It's hard to believe people just left their cars out there. That just blows my mind. Typhoid! Yikes! Your wife is right -- that does look like your logo.

I've been there! walked that path and saw the old stone! At that time I wondered what the hell happened here.. Now I know! thanks for your videos they are really awesome love the old history of that area.

Never been across the pond but always found Nevada a interesting state especially Area 51, must be interesting researching the history of that place, thanks for sharing, Mike West Bromwich UK

Thanks!

With no intent to paint the president into a bad light, Keys sure makes me think an awful lot of George Bush! Awesome video, always love the American Southwest. Thank you for sharing!

We've been Stargazing there years ago, amazingly beautiful. A fresh bag of the sticky, a bottle of water and a blanket is all you needed 👍.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

The night sky there is so amazing.

@dougtodd305

10 ай бұрын

That's what we used to sdo

Thank you for taking the time to show us what's out there, I really love history and I am tempted to go out and explore before the Vandals tear it down, shoot it up and scrappers get out there and take away priceless history, So sad that people are out there doing stuff like that, It's disappearing in a record pace all on its own

@dougtodd305

10 ай бұрын

Rangers out there nowadays, hasn't changed to much in 40 years,but do go see for yourself, one of my favorite places

If you ever decide to do a follow up story, the NPS gives tours of KEY’s ranch. It’s very informative and cool. You get to go through his house and his property and see how they lived out there which is just freaking amazing. Also, he built a dam to catch water not far from there.

The car with the aluminum body panels is most likely a Pierce Arrow. They were the main manufacturer of aluminum body automobiles in the twenties.

I have hiked to the mill many times and the surrounding areas in the Park. I live in DHS which is not far from JTNP.

I was here about a year ago. In regards to the old ruins of a building that they don't have much information on. As you face it walking on the path to it. Go to your left. Find what looks to be an old well. Follow the trail. Look left towards the rocks. You will see a small cave with a partial stone or cement wall. Possible food storage location. Cool inside. Also a hole on the ground, in the rock, possible grain grinding. Keep down the trail and veer left. You will see an area that is or was a point of holding water. Like a lake. There is an old stone dam to the left.

If you hike into Ryan ranch from the main road along the trail just east of Cap Rock you'll find a big rock with a couple dates and a name painted on it. At the base are the graves of two brothers who got drunk and into a gunfight with each other and killed each other. I think their last name was James ironically. There was also a similar ruin there of an adobe ranch house which is probably just a mud pile by now since I haven't been to that spot since 1983. One wall was still standing back then but eroding as well as a huge metal water reservoir.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

The ruins at the Ryan Ranch House are still around, so not quite a pile of mud yet, at least as of about 2 years ago. Didn't stop by on this trip.

That old car with the v-8, made into a flat bed is probably a Cadillac. It has both the exhaust and intake manifolds on top of the engine.

That converted car/truck with the flathead V8 is a LaSalle.

That’s awesome. Thanks Steve, I wonder if those wells to could be revamped and still get water up?

Didn't realize there were abandoned cars in Joshua Tree. Interesting story about the shoot out.

Interesting

I agree that mine does look a lot like the sidetrack adventures logo ...

That car at 3:00...it's not that bad, it'll buff out, lol. It is crazy to me as a car guy that that is still there! That is really cool!

Very interesting video, again. Thank you. What sort of mill was the Wall Street Mill? Would other local miners have brought mineral ore there for processing or just what he mined, in that case where was his mine? What kind of mine? I like the old cars. Leads me to believe that others used the road too besides Keyes, which Bagley would have not liked.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Gold and silver was apparently mined in the area. There were several local mines that would have brought the ore there from what I understand.

@ 8:00. Given that car/utility is at the mill I wonder if that’s the vehicle that was driving down the road when it came across the blocked road and the shootout occurred?

@kurtweiand7086

Жыл бұрын

🤔

Thanks for the info I didn't know I needed! 😂🤣😂🤣 I always wondered where he died! 😞😥😞😂🤣😂🤣

Another great video! Ive got your sticker on my bumper.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank you!

@georgewolfiii1170

Жыл бұрын

@@SidetrackAdventures Where can I get sticker?!

@SidetrackAdventures

Жыл бұрын

@@georgewolfiii1170 I don't think we have any left. I might get more made soon.

WILD STORY!

About the truck. Dah old Steve lol😂😂😂😂😂

Visit Bill Keyes Ranch, through the US NPS for a tour.

Can a do a video on eagle mountain. 🤔 I know there's a little town out there off I 10. I think it's abandoned now..

Yo, you and the first guy in pic look alike😮

At 6:55 is there something carved on the stone in kind of the bottom center of the screen ?

The park service is kind of elusive with artifacts and such these days. People take digital photos, which a lot have GPS coordinates. They post these online where vandals can get the information and do their deeds.

Glad Keys got the better of it. No need to block the road to his property

People vandalize things because they have no respect. It’s too bad that hardly ever get caught and when they’ do oft times get little or no punishment.

8:22 That is apparently a Ford Flathead V8! Ford put the flathead v8 in both cars and trucks from 32-53. This particular truck looks to be a 1934 Ford Pickup.

I think the truck at 8:30 is a Diamond T.

What ore was put into the mill and what was the finished product?

7:13 LMFAO, that's something you die of in the oregon trail game! How did he die of that in 1969?

"Mill" is a term used for a structure that grinds something, usually using power from water to turn the grinder. So, what did this "mill" do? No flowing water to power it.

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

It was a stamp mill. Stamp mills pound rather than grind. It was used to process gold and silver ore from local mines.

0:31 that guy looks like Robbin Williams 😮😢

I ve your videos dude; but I wish you would tell us what that mill was there for... What did this site have that was better than others... a well??.

@truracer20

2 күн бұрын

It was a stamp mill for processing ore.

I highly recommend checking out Noah Purifoy’s “Outdoor Desert Museum” . Great folk art inspired from his days as curator of The Watts Towers!!!👍

what was the mill used for? grinding wheat into flour? did it have a special use?

@truracer20

2 күн бұрын

It was a stamp mill for processing ore.

Are those bullet holes in that thar truck?! 😱

Good rat rod projects!

Was it cold there when you filmed this video?

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, especially when the wind was blowing. By the time we headed back though it had warmed up a lot and the jackets came off.

@ScratchGlass9

2 жыл бұрын

@Sidetrack Adventures ...love your travels, thanks for taking us along.. it's 8 degrees windchill here in Michigan at 3 p.m. Enjoy the weather out there !

Always wondered with all the walking around you do in these abandoned desert places; aren't there snake dangers ? Seems it would be risky, those old structures and rocks would be perfect hiding for some snakes?

Reminds me a lot of Red Dead Redemption 1

What was Keys mining?

When I was a kid Joshua tree held the national turtle races

What did the mill do? What was its purpose?

I missed it. What was the mill used for?

@georgewolfiii1170

Жыл бұрын

The mill was used to first "stamp" rock and gravel into a fine powder, then run it through a sluice where mercury would collect the gold, and the rest would continue on to be dumped on the ground. The stamps were heavy solid cast iron weights that went up and down and pounded the rock and gravel repeatedly. Mills were called "a one-stamp mill," "a two-stamp mill," "a three-stamp mill," etc.

What was milled?

I think the truck is a Sterling My old boss owned a couple of late 30s and mid 40s Sterlings and there's enough to make a comparison

@SidetrackAdventures

2 жыл бұрын

I never would have guessed that.

@joycejames8461

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like it could have made a good hot rod, shame it was left out there.

Actually my father was in San Quentin in the late 60s go figure!!!!!

There is a cowboy glyph in Death Valley created and signed as Bill Key, dated before he added the "s" to his name.