On the basis of principle alone, Australia and Australians must never be separated by race.

@lukeclifton4392

11 ай бұрын

Why is it the least indigenous of the indigenous population… are the ones that are pushing for this the most?! #boxtickers

@BelloBudo007

11 ай бұрын

@@lukeclifton4392 $$$$$'s.

@robertholland7558

11 ай бұрын

@@janeblogs324They don’t need to bow down. They can play by the rules, and achieve what ever they require, just like any other community group.

@Rustycarr59

11 ай бұрын

This truth is very inconvenient.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Nazis look for the slightest clue of Jewishness in the features of others around them and appropriately label them, altering their behaviour after identifying them. Your observation is based on the same principle. Your conclusions are essentially racist.

It's a Trojan Horse. #VoteNo

@Righteo

11 ай бұрын

👍🏻

@dandrsampsonfamily

11 ай бұрын

Precisely. We ought to be very wary of what comes afterwards!

@MA-nm2tv

10 ай бұрын

Created by Thomas Mayor and his comrades

@gustaaf1892

10 ай бұрын

@@MA-nm2tv You can be almost sure that if the Voice were to be voted in that Mayor would be one of its representatives to demand everything but the kitchen sink from the government. The man is a radical who is frothing at the mouth for the opportunity to punish anyone who isn't Aboriginal and granting Aboriginals everything they want.

@herogebrial

10 ай бұрын

That's what I was thinking. Nefarious ideas from a woke govt

Thanks for articulating this so eloquently. I am from a migrant family and I pay my taxes and volunteer for my country, and I feel I should be just as Australian as anyone else. This voice divides us and creates different classes of citizens.

@vladnikitin2566

10 ай бұрын

You are as Australian as anyone else. John just likes to push propaganda that fearmongers instead of actually talking about the facts. He claims changing the constitution will cause the race disparity to be eternal, as if it will never change. Guess what? You can change constitution! That’s exactly what we are bloody talking about with the voice: changing the constitution. Get a grip. Stop listening to racebaiters and start living in the real world

@DJDJDJ22

10 ай бұрын

Mate I’m an Aborignal-Australian and I work full time and pay taxes too. I love this country but have seen lots of discrimination towards my people. We were here first and deserve recognition in the constitution as such. It’s people like you that are scared and full of hate that hold my people back from being the next we can be. Shame on you for making this about race and hate. Aboriginal-Australians love this country I love this country and I’m just sick of seeing most of my people be vilified by nine heads like you who don’t understand how badly your racism effects us. Shame on you.

@stevegoulding6328

10 ай бұрын

Well said. You shouldn't have to feel this way. According to our constitution in it's current form, you are just as Australian as the next person and have exactly the same rights and privileges! To be Australian in my opinion isn't just about rights, it's also a feeling of belonging and acceptance. If immigrants come here and decide to call Australia home, then that's exactly what it should be, a home where you feel safe and accepted. Unfortunately there is no perfect system. Some immigrants refuse to accept our culture, get jobs or assimilate into the community. Some Australians refuse to accept immigrants into the community too. Fortunately for the vast majority these two issues are relatively small. The voice will, however forever introduce a racial division within our country. I acknowledge that atrocities were committed in the past, but these should be taken up with the British monarchy that allowed them! Convicts and settlers didn't start this mess and to some degree were just as oppressed by the system. Why should we be forced to feel guilty for something we never took part in? Australia should be proud of it's multicultural heritage. We have many groups of migrants and refugees who brought additional skills and culture that enhanced our country. These should be celebrated, not swept under the carpet! South Africa is a good example of where this could lead. Racism goes both ways. The voice is totally racist. It will permanently divide Australia's by their skin colour, cause the divide to get worse and cause resentment and financial hardship. As a democratic nation we should only accept solutions that enhance equality, rather than division. As this video clearly states, more money is spent on aboriginal people than any other multicultural class in this country. That in itself is racist. The problem is due to too many layers of bureaucracy absorbing the funding, with no checks and balances! If they aren't performing the function they were created for, then they either fix the issues or remove these departments. Accountability will solve many of the problems. Sir Thomas Playford was South Australia's longest serving premier. He had a tiny staff compared to now, caught public transport to save taxpayers money and ran the state like a clock! Current politicians should take a good look back at this, then look into the mirror!

@williamgilbert3686

10 ай бұрын

We are not all Australian, there as been a class devide in this country since settlement, do your really think you are equal to the top end of town, come on think about it.

@reynard4823

10 ай бұрын

Communist spotted @@williamgilbert3686

The best statement that I have heard about the voice. It should be broadcast as the main statement for the No Vote.

As a self identifying aboriginal, I'll vote No!

@theragoooverlord5021

11 ай бұрын

Albo is a Fabian - socialist free Mayson. Not a secret society but a discreet one. Not to be trusted

@jw-vx8im

11 ай бұрын

Well done brother

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

How do you know he's not transgender?

@buildmotosykletist1987

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ul9dv2iv9s : Welcome to KZread @user, new yesterday, lots of new "@user"s lately, many hundreds indeed.

@ajv802

11 ай бұрын

Good on you mate!

I want the “I am, you are, we are Australian” model, not the “everybody is Australian but some are more Australian than others” model.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

it’s not based on race. It’s based on who was on this land first. There’s a difference. They are like me, Australian. The voice is how they believe they can best help their future generations and end the cycle of neglect. It might help, it might not but they are my brothers and sisters and I support them in trying. This is why I’m voting yes.

@pimpspongebob3674

10 ай бұрын

it is 100% based on race its giving an exclusive voice to a certain race@@Nylandersaraus1

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@pimpspongebob3674 or is it giving it to the first occupants of Australia. It’s always a racial thing to you guys. Dutton really loaded you up with talking points that align with your bias didn’t he 😉

@pimpspongebob3674

10 ай бұрын

the first occupants of australia, meaning aboriginals meaning a specific race of people, can you not grasp that?@@Nylandersaraus1

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@pimpspongebob3674 man do I need to spell it out letter by letter for you to get it. If the difference between indigenous and non-indigenous is race tell me what the non-indigenous race is? The thing that make you indigenous or non-indigenous relates to your ancestors living in Australia pre 1788. That you instantly see this as race says more about you

3,278 Aboriginal corporations • 243 Native title bodies • 48 Land councils • 35 Regional councils • 122+ Aboriginal agencies • 3 Advisory bodies • 145 Health Organisations • 11 Indigenous Federal MPs • 12 Culturally important Indigenous days • Taxpayers give $33 BILLION annually for 984,000 people (3.8% of the population) • Expenditure per person in 2012-13 was $43,449 on Indigenous Australian compare to $20,900 on other Australians a ratio of 2.08 to 1 and increase from 1.95 in 2009. Australian taxpayers spend at least $100 million a day on direct support for Indigenous Australians every year or $39.5 billion of direct government expenditure every single year. The figures are based on the 2017 Indigenous Expenditure Report produced by the Productivity Commission. Source: Professor Matthew Bennett, spokesman for the Sovereign Court of International Justice (SCIJ) and International Barrister with a 25+ year legal career and an expert on international law.

@amorphoussolid8512

10 ай бұрын

I beg your pardon, fellow Australian. I have a question and I would appreciate a answer if you can provide one, although it is not expected or obligated. Doing the math in my head $1m per day would equal $365 per annum. I am confused as to were the amount of $39.5b per annum was derived. Forgive this minor intrusion, I do not wish to cause offence. This question is entirely related to mathematics. You may, of course, ignore this missive if it takes to great a burden on your time. I thank you in advance for possibly reading this and wish you a peaceful time. Australian to Australian, cheers and have a good one.

@CairnsMotorhomes

10 ай бұрын

​@@amorphoussolid8512you need to re-read this post

The Voice is a poorly researched proposal promoted by a poorly informed government . Labor's plainly deceptive 'explanations' of the Voice is an insult to the Australian people and deserves to be roundly rejected.

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

What about the proposal has been poorly researched? How is the government poorly informed? More to, if they are misinformed, how can they be deceptive at the same time? They'd just be regular old wrong.

@waynemartin5247

10 ай бұрын

It disrespects all Aboriginal tribes. In my perspective, if they don't maintain a tribal, nomadic way of life with deep-rooted cultural connections, then they cannot be considered as Aboriginal. This is solely about giving power to indoctrinated individuals.

@kimbo99

10 ай бұрын

Albo's much vaunted 1 page Gettysburg address that he stares at daily turns out to be effectively CLASSIFIED. Peta Credlin had to pay money and use FOI to obtain a copy ! WHY ? And then it turns out to be 26 pages. Why the massive deception ? End of a government coming. Vote NO

@JohnLoogleman

10 ай бұрын

​@@waynemartin5247I agree

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@waynemartin5247did I just teleport back to the 1890s? Let me guess dna tests are the answer. What’s the test for Australian purity then?

One Country ... One People ... VOTE NO TO RACISM !

@NathanCroucher

11 ай бұрын

by voting yes

@pablorages1241

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanCroucher If you want to enshrine racism into the constitution

@andrewmiller6051

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanCroucher explain how voting for a system of government that treats people differently based on their ethnicity is voting no to racism. You’re blinded by tribalism.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Racism us already enshrined in the constitution.

@NathanCroucher

11 ай бұрын

@@andrewmiller6051 im not in a tribe, i just go by what the experts say. Im also not an extremist who leaps to buzz words like RASISM AHHH. A simple voice is all it is, for the people who where here first who die ten years earlier than we do and are more likely to end up in prison. Dont have to do what they say just have to listen. Simples hommie.

Im voting NO to this racist proposal, and I'll never vote Labor again....EVER.

@johnlewis9631

11 ай бұрын

100% ❤

@RAM_845

11 ай бұрын

Well majority of the LIBERALS are for it too...and attacking their own leader because of it.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Love the lyrics Paul. So is that the name of the song. EVER. Nice ring to it. Love the band.

@paulbutler8037

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ul9dv2iv9s yes...that the name of the song and the tune.....but you can dance to any tune you choose....another great onris "i hate racist people "

@francesblabey3055

11 ай бұрын

Me too

John, I have traditionally been a Labor voter, however, I have to agree with your analysis on the Voice. I think we need to find better ways to bridge the gap of disadvantage... the billions of dollars seemingly being wasted could just have been paid to every indigenous person a universal basic income. The Voice won't fix anything but likely lead to a divided nation.

@foraustralia2558

10 ай бұрын

An ADVISORY BOARD with no legislative power will hardly "lead to a divided nation". Be a little less dramatic ...being the ONLY European colony with no recognition or treaty WILL Logic before emotion please

@GlowingTube

10 ай бұрын

@@foraustralia2558 Fair point… I’m still uncomfortable in having race enshrined in the constitution and what the implications may be regarding sovereignty. I understand that it’s intended as a mark of respect… a gesture of decency to indigenous people who have been treated so badly in the past.

@cristinahague1433

10 ай бұрын

​@@GlowingTubethe traditional owners live on their land, but the land councils have not distributed and handled funds properly... the gap that needs to be closed is actually between the activist class of aboriginals and those living in remote communities... I could say that my ancestors were treated badly by the communist revolution less than 80 yrs ago... called the weeds of Europe and to be exterminated ... yes and I'm white... so happened to all people no matter what skin colour...

@nigelmorgan3449

10 ай бұрын

Thank you John you have given us the truth

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@GlowingTube it’s not based on race. It’s based on who was on this land first. There’s a difference. They are like me, Australian. The voice is how they believe they can best help their future generations and end the cycle of neglect. It might help, it might not but they are my brothers and sisters and I support them in trying. This is why I’m voting yes.

I'm with you John, 100%. It's an enormous shame and a pity that you are not representative in our Federal Parliament. Our entire nation would be better off with people of honesty and integrity like yourself. More strength to your cause.

@jackrussell3084

11 ай бұрын

I am concerned for racist based policy, so will vote NO. Vote no is a vote for anti racism.

@blokeVB

11 ай бұрын

​@jackrussell3084 vote yes to new Zealand co government

@midnightspares

11 ай бұрын

John has forgotten that Labor committed to the Uluru statement of the heart years ago. It was & now is Labor policy. Labor took the Uluru statement from the heart to the Australian people at last years election. Proof of Labor’s commitment is on KZread, even Linda Burney is on KZread saying it. Want the videos of proof just ask me, happy to post.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Thank you for reminding me of Labors commitment to truth and reconciliation midnight. Well done that boy there!

@leonharrison800

11 ай бұрын

Indigenous have cared gor country for 60,000 yrs. They know more than dumb politicians.

I am concerned for racist based policy, so will vote NO. A vote for no is a vote for anti-racism.

@stephenlennon7369

10 ай бұрын

Australia is a racist based country it's a white ethnocracy the premise that White Australian are benevolence towards the Aboriginals is laughable 😅

@MichelleWardley

10 ай бұрын

Not that easy

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

It’s a bit more complex than that buddy

@lesfox2010

10 ай бұрын

I'm mainly voting no because Albanese will not answer the important questions. No way I'm voting for a blank cheque. Especially not when it comes to the Constitution.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@lesfox2010 I found the voice.gov.au website very useful. It contains lots of information including the amendment text and advisory reports on it

John. Why are people like you not running our country. We have so many extremely capable people like you with integrity, with great leadership abilities, who are sitting on the sidelines, and who would bring Australians together.

@alanc6781

10 ай бұрын

I think because such people would be ashamed to be classed as a politician.

John Anderson is greatly missed from Australian politics.

We hear about truth telling.......... here it is. Well spoken.

@susanc4622

10 ай бұрын

Yes. It may not be the truth that they want, though.

Thank you John. The parliament is missing a statesman.

@JohnLoogleman

10 ай бұрын

Indeed

@msbramble176

10 ай бұрын

Nah he spins lies as good as any other. We can do without. Someone needs to challenge him on the misrepresention of the Stanner quote.

I'm worried that the very framing of this referendum will appear to the majority of Australians as a piece of paper that simply says: "Are you racist? Yes/ No" (in this case yes/no is reversed but you get my point)

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

I’m voting yes and I don’t think that voting no makes you a racist . We live in a democracy and if you want things to stay the same vote no. I want things to get better for aboriginal people because they are my Australia brothers and sisters. They believe listening to them will close the gap, I’ll back them

This is the sort of discourse that appears to be sadly lacking in parliamentary exchanges and in large parts of the media, thank you for uploading this video.

I've just forwarded this link to everyone of my contacts, concise, not based on the vibe and enlightening. Thank you John.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

I bet they love the guy on their contacts list that sends them all these links too 😂

@JohnWilliams-iw6oq

10 ай бұрын

@@Nylandersaraus1 actually they wonder what has happened when I stop lol. I get stuff sent to me by them and some of it I disagree with but through respectful communication we are all still friends.

Thanks for this and very well said, I totally agree the Voice is such a wrong approach and Labor is deceiving all of us. Vote No.

@soundknight

11 ай бұрын

And themselves too.

@i-etranger

10 ай бұрын

I have spent whole weekend trying to understand the basis for it, from practical and analytical perspective. It is all emotions and zero concrete foundation how the initiative is going to benefit the country.

This video one of the most civil, unemotional and clear considerations of why the Voice is not a good idea for Australia and why it will not achieve its objectives.

@avapineda8813

10 ай бұрын

I think Dutton also make a very good speech and didn’t lose his temper like Albo

@seekerout

10 ай бұрын

I would say it won't meet its STATED objectives. What its real objectives are is anyone's guess but it seems to be about a grab for money and power by divide and rule - one of the oldest tricks in the book.

I reckon there should be a forensic audit and enquiry of the monies paid to aboriginal groups and land councils over many years. Why hasn't all that money improved the circumstances of indigenous communities over the years.

In the words of a friend who is indeed indigenous. “We don’t need a voice, we need ears to listen” I stand along side my brother

John Anderson, a very brilliant speech that I am sure that most Australians would agree with. We must vote NO to what will bring down our great country instead of unification. We are all Australian, no matter where you come from or your colour. There is no us and them and never will be if we vote NO to this divisive referendum proposed by the Labor govt.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

As the beloved song soothes us, We are one But we are many ... All singing with one voice, Or was that One Nation, Blah blah blah blah.

@buildmotosykletist1987

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ul9dv2iv9s : Welcome to KZread @user, new yesterday, lots of new "@user"s lately, many hundreds indeed.

@leonharrison800

11 ай бұрын

Anderson another LNPer. Racist,sexist and lgbt hating. Stick him back in the 50s. A living fossil.

@hitreset0291

11 ай бұрын

Absolutely, I totally support an imperialistic leader that is 100% willing to commit genocide ~ NO Give it a rest John.

@MDCDiGiPiCs

11 ай бұрын

​@@hitreset0291sounds like your speaking out of your arse. You wouldn't know an imperialist if there's one in front of you. Your just another lefty shill. 😂😂😂

Spot on John One person One vote One representation. It can’t get fairer than that. And a multicultural society will only thrive while everyone is treaded the same under the laws of the land.

@pastorofmuppets8834

10 ай бұрын

Except for the fact that it has never been like that and without the voice racism will continue. Just look at these disgusting comments. This is why it is needed

@zachlee7945

10 ай бұрын

I mean based on the fact that indigenous communities make up 27% of national prisons despite only being about 3% of the population would indicate this isn’t true but go off

@LostCourage

10 ай бұрын

@@pastorofmuppets8834 That sounds like a threat.

@pastorofmuppets8834

10 ай бұрын

@@LostCourage that sounds like you're projecting

@-xyz-012

10 ай бұрын

@@pastorofmuppets8834this has absolutely nothing to do with race and everything to do with giving the gov more power to destroy whatever good is left in this country. The current Constitution is the only thing that gives protection to the people. With Australian Labour, Liberals & Greens, puppets of the UN WEF OWO being this is to further that process. And take whatever little rights we have left and give it to corrupt psychopaths that want to rule the world in complete tyranny and hand Australia completely over to the UN. Australia is a corporation sold out to the US by these corrupt politicians. The only thing that keeps us safe is our current Constitution, change it & the Aboriginal people will lose rights to this land as will all Australians. Problem is people believe whatever comes out of the idiot box they sit in front of, there’s a reason they call it the idiot box. It’s one big propaganda box and they’re counting on people to gulp down whatever programming they feed their minds with.

Australians should not be separated by race. Well spoken and easy to understand vote No.

as an Australian I, too, am voting "NO". Well stated John. btw. lets not be fooled by the current "yes' data being propagated across by Albanese et al.

The voice comes right before the invoice

Vote NO

@Righteo

11 ай бұрын

👍🏻

Thank you for this clear and concise explanation. Lately the issue of the ‘gap’ we are frequently told about came up in conversation. We couldn’t help but state that this gap is most evident in remote Aboriginal communities, that this gap is due to their culture and ways of being not because Australia as a whole is somehow preventing the gap from closing. The Aboriginal culture is different to western cultures and therefore the gap cannot close no matter what programs and funding Australia provides, if these people prefer and choose their traditional way of life and ways of being. It’s certainly not wrong, it is their choice to live this way but why are we - non aboriginal Australians being blamed for this gap, being shamed for this gap and held accountable for this gap?? If we can start being honest about this gap in outcomes, then we can be honest in whose responsibility it is to close the gap. Aboriginal people are actually responsible for closing this gap with the rest of Australia there to help them if they want help.

@jounama1

9 ай бұрын

And this may be acheived by providing a forum through which indigenous people are able to express their concerns on political decisions that will affect them and to promote initiatives that will benefit their health, wealth and opportunity, rather than just voting for one of the main stream poltical parties in the hope that their unique needs will be addressed. Indigenous people in all social and cultural contexts will have a voice. This is not divisive racially, (a condition that obviously already exists, judging by the vitriol on social media) but rather a means by which indigenous people can get a fair go, as is our Australian way.

@warrenmontgomery57

9 ай бұрын

This is an argument of free will vs determinism which is as old as age itself. When you take free will all you have is predeterminism which is a direct reflection of current indigenous communities. You take their culture from them, and force them to assimilate. Break apart families and force indigenous australians to be slaves and servants until the 70s, and now you all wonder what went wrong. Australia has a problem and it is shame. A country too ashamed to admit that actions have consequences.

@leanneharrison8587

8 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZqB-t6WGe7y7hdo.html

Exactly well said. I hope the rest of Australia wakes up and see's this.

Well said. This needs to be run on prime time.

@HGCUPCAKES

11 ай бұрын

Mainstream media are complicit with the government. They push the governments propaganda. They don’t tell the truth anymore!

@trg9765

11 ай бұрын

YES but it won't happen

@librandancer

11 ай бұрын

Yes it does need to be run on prime time

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

What! You can't shut the buggers up, no voters are all over on main stream media.. Endlessly 24 hours. OMG. The persecution you poor blighters feel you face.

@michaelfinch726

10 ай бұрын

@@librandancer WELL SAID VERY TRUE RUN THIS ON NATIIONAL PRIME TIME

You only have to look across the ditch to see how these things take on a life of their own, don't do it mates.

Somebody correct me if I’m wrong, but at a glance the ALP has been in government in the Northern Territory for 18 out of the last 22 years. In Queensland it’s been something like 19 out of the last 25 years and WA about 14 out of the last 22 years. Is the proposal of the strangely named Voice (sounds like a Channel 9 talent quest show) an admission by the ALP that they haven’t been listening to the Aboriginal population under their care? Imagine an elitist government body purporting to represent 3.8% of Australia’s population holding the remaining 96.2% of the Australian population hostage.

Thank you John for a level headed approach based on fact not emotion. Vote NO.

@goldfish5827

10 ай бұрын

How is it based on fact? It is scare mungering…

Well said John, you articulated exactly how I feel. If this vote goes through it will be a disaster.

@lisaalexander1824

9 ай бұрын

Why ??

@darrenpaech1342

9 ай бұрын

@@lisaalexander1824 It will add another layer of bureaucracy we don’t need and create a permanent racial divide in our multicultural society.

Brilliantly expressed, logical , historically compact and compassionate

@gleeeshee

10 ай бұрын

but just an opinion

@JimmyVargas-kv7ii

10 ай бұрын

@@gleeeshee It seems someone talks rationally and it is regarded as opinion. But an insane conceit by a corporate communist govt is fact, and essential. The Voice is a set up by the World Ec Forum to get its reps into an Executive Govt, using the black as a trojan Horse. Albanese as soon as he was sworn in, went directly to the WEF and was told what his agenda was. Move quickly, get the Voice across the line, and then they can steer all laws. From parking fines, property etc. The new censorship laws are the preparation. They want to sell a Voice but is taking ours. They are using a Democracy to bring in Communism. John Anderson gets it. He has been in the Trenches of Canberra and on the farm. He knows.

@geoffreytoomey682

10 ай бұрын

the Voice is a distraction from the great game, the WEF "Great Reset" your Government TRAITORS will agree to Bill Gate controlled "WHO Planned-demic Treatgy " Then you can enjoy Climate Change emergency lockdowns to save the planet, and more forced INJECTIONS to save you from their next emergency thingie? The hilarious part about this conspiracy is you won't be able to believe it, because, As Mark Twain said, “It’s Easier to Fool People than It Is to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.”

@fingerprint5511

10 ай бұрын

​@@gleeeshee as are all words that come from his mouth.

@goldfish5827

10 ай бұрын

Not backed with fact. Actually disproved by fact, it is a lot of scare campaigns and misinformation.

Exceptionally well said. They want truth telling? Well, this is the truth, however inconvenient it might be to the yes campaign.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

No, the aboriginal people want truth telling not yes voters. Truth about what the British did to them.

@netwarrior1000

10 ай бұрын

@Nylandersaraus1 the truth that we already know about you mean, or just an excuse to put people who had nothing to do with it on a guilt trip? We already know terrible and regrettable things were done (by both sides I might add, if we're to be truly truthful), and an apology has already been given (many times over, by one side, given we have a sorry day every year now), but as usual it is never enough for some people.

Perfectly explained. This video needs to be widely shared.

Very well said John. You speak for the vast majority of concerned Australians. I couldent agree more that the National Indigenous Australians Agency needs looking into. Australia needs Meritocracy and competency for its leaders, not diversity and inclusiveness.

@blokeVB

11 ай бұрын

Is any similar issues with new Zealand current push for CO-Governance

@midnightspares

11 ай бұрын

John has forgotten that Labor committed to the Uluru statement of the heart years ago. It was & now is Labor policy. Labor took the Uluru statement from the heart to the Australian people at last years election. Proof of Labor’s commitment is on KZread, even Linda Burney is on KZread saying it. Want the videos of proof just ask me, happy to post.

@NathanCroucher

11 ай бұрын

"Meritocracy and competency" That sounds a bit commy to me, this is a democracy mate where the best talkers or funded make it to the top. You want a merit based system move to china.

@daniellebcooper7160

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanCroucher ''Commy''????. I think you should learn what meritocracy and competency means; especially in this context, and used against diversity & inclusiveness.

@NathanCroucher

11 ай бұрын

@@daniellebcooper7160 In the context of leaders? What kind of leaders? Elected or appointed?

Something similar is happeneing in Ireland, a group has been set up by the government to advise on Constitutional issues and make recomendations. I am concerned that a small group is trying to undermine true democracy in a similar way to what the voice seems to be doing in Australia. My neice just gave birth to a new Australian so I am as concerned for Australia'a future as I am for my country's future, Heaven help us all. God bless your work in this area.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

A small group hey. Nothing to worry about then is there.

This is brilliant. It needs to be shared everywhere

@msbramble176

10 ай бұрын

Are you serious? It is an unchallenged monologue full of errors. He totally misrepresented Stanners words. He cannot have reasd the same Stanner Essays that I did. Totally disengenuous.

@kurtschulte-schrepping8020

10 ай бұрын

​@msbramble176 exactly, it's intentionally dishonest at very best. The idea that 'constitutional experts' have concerns is completely misrepresented. The majority support the voice and even one with a concern is voting yes.

The voice will not remove any chips from their shoulders. It will just build a greater sense of entitlement.

This is what you call real "truth telling"

@MichelleWardley

10 ай бұрын

No it's not. Most Australians these days couldn't handle the truth. But they will whether they like it or not some day.!

@michaelharvest931

10 ай бұрын

@@MichelleWardleyCould you please give me a little more info on what you mean? I can handle the truth, truth conquers

@ambrose0

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@MichelleWardleywhen leftist say truth, they mean Gnosis. To add to that, “truth telling” in the Australian context also means CRT in practice / race baiting struggle sessions.

@locustsandhoney486

10 ай бұрын

What CROWN do they represent. Do you know what a DELUSION is. What COSTELLO represents. What John in INCAPABLE of seeing. Are you DELUDED?

@locustsandhoney486

10 ай бұрын

@@ambrose0 When you talk about WINGS of a BIRD instead of FACTS and TRUTH of your CROWN, it demonstrates you have no clue what TRUTH actually is. WHat occupies the Commonwealth of Australia under the Hague Conventions? Any clue??????? Why would you BORROW A TRILLION putting your children into FINANCIAL SLAVERY for 100 years. WHY WOULD THEY PURPOSEFULLY DO THAT TO YOU LIKE THEY ARE DOING IN UKRAINE RIGHT NOW. Are you asleep to what COSTELLO is. What JOHN FAILS TO SEE.

Well said John. Vote no people, maintain democracy in this wonderful country of ours.

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

How would this body undermine democracy?

@lessISmore4444

10 ай бұрын

@@LlywellynOBrien By having an unelected body that can influence federal government decisions. As far as we know across all matters. The PM says he “thinks” it will only be matters relating to Indigenous affairs but he falls well short of confirming that. So in summary we end up with an unelected, decision making body at the head of government that you can only be a part of if you identify with a certain race. We have no idea the limits of this body’s power and we can never vote against it. Unlike a PM/Party that we’re not happy with i.e they have to stay within the realms of public interest or they’ll lose support. That’s the beauty of democracy, we all get a say when there’s an election. It’s a system that works quite well and we should value it.

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

@@zsk303 Sorry? I am afraid I don't follow your meaning.

@foraustralia2558

10 ай бұрын

So no democracy in the USA Canada NZ etc... all have far more than the Aboriginals have modestly asked for ... You clearly dont like the VALUES of the British Commonwealth

@pimpspongebob3674

10 ай бұрын

gives a specific group of people a say on matters that affect everyone@@LlywellynOBrien

Thank you and may God continue to bless you and those you love John Anderson . We have so much work to do going forward.......calling all, Australians regardless of colour or " race " to put our collective shoulder to this wheel .

Thank you for telling us what the voice stand for as a migrant that came over 50 years ago and worked to have what I and my family to have enjoy the freedom of this country I know what I will be voting for.

Thanks John, very well presented video!

Thanks, John, well said. I think the summary is something like: NO Voters (believe in Agency of Indigenous people and V for Victory) vs YES Voters (non-agency for indigenous people => dependency and V for Victimhood). Wondering what you’d say about the fact that the Uluru statement is actually 26 pages (not One, as Albo, et.al. have constantly said), and that it involves not just Reparations (!) but a percentage of GNP set aside for the issue. Seems to me that Labor has been disingenuous on this.

Had a gut full of being welcomed to my country, this voice is more of it

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

If you are sick of it, leave.

@Max-dd7du

10 ай бұрын

13 ticks vs one abuse

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

@@Max-dd7du Hey mate, in fairness, this is a very one-sided comment section. I assure you in other forums people would critique your view more strongly. That being said I did not mean my reply as abuse, and am genuinely sorry if it came across that way. I do want to push back on your stance, but I meant it as tongue in cheek rather than nasty. If that didn't come across I am sorry.

@Max-dd7du

10 ай бұрын

It did sting, as I was born here, but I much appreciate your apology. Thankyou!

Brilliant presentation so simply put. I really hold grave concerns for all Australians. How will we move on from this once the referendum has concluded. If it's a No, then what will the radicals do to recover? How will they respond. I fear acceptance of a No vote will not form of thier public discourse.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

‘How do the radicals recover?’ You mean your fellow Australias. Stop with all the American style naming calling. Life goes on.

@backyardracers9041

10 ай бұрын

@Nylandersaraus1 indeed. You are correct. Note that I did refer to Australians earlier in my comment. Keep up the support for the correct outcome and take a step forward. Cheers

Excellent work John.

Thankyou so much John. Very well researched, produced and spoken.

John, as a taxpayer, I'm so glad to see that my taxes which fund retired pollies with offices and staff etc. are, in your case, being put to excellent use by having a rational discussion on this topic. You have absolutely nailed this. Keep up the good work!. More former pollies should be doing it.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

What playing pretend PM on KZread?

@bandicoot2016

10 ай бұрын

@Nylandersaraus1 Well someone's got to be better at pretending to be PM than Albo....... oh keyboard warrior

John, Please Please put this out to the Australian people. Wake them up please. The answer is VOTE NO

Miss you mate. Hope this one gets a wide berth. Hopefully sanity and decency prevails should be easy Aussie's have plenty of both.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

I don't miss him mate. That's why I'm here. Bathing in righteousness. Showered by ... Fairness! That's it.

Thank you John, we need you back in parliament, keep up the good work.

Thanks for this. It touches on a problem that's not routinely spoken of on the news: fatherlessness and broken families, and addictions. I believe (and I might be wrong) the solutions are in the redemption of the Aboriginal mothers and fathers themselves.

I didn't think we were allowed to discriminate against any person by race and yet this will call them out for their race before anything else.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Not allowed to discriminate? Sounds a tad unAustralian to me.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

it’s not based on race. It’s based on who was on this land first. There’s a difference. They are like me, Australian. The voice is how they believe they can best help their future generations and end the cycle of neglect. It might help, it might not but they are my brothers and sisters and I support them in trying. This is why I’m voting yes.

Well composed and said. I agree totally. Having grown up in Alice I have watched so many of my indigenous friends be successful in their lives. Very much like Jacintas story. Which by the way I would like as PM lol.

@Jopacob

11 ай бұрын

me too #J Nampijinpa Price for PM. At 42 she is a remarkable Australian. She has many admirable qualities such as John.A.

@NathanCroucher

11 ай бұрын

"so many of my indigenous friends be successful" You realize that is the complete opposite of reality when you take all of them into account? Its like 10 years lower life expectancy, prison etc etc blah blahg

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

That's right. Minority voice rules. Or was that majority. Or so so numbers rules? I don't care just as long as the right side rules.

@cohort075

11 ай бұрын

@@NathanCroucher Well then, what is your solution to this problem, seeing ATSIC, and now the NIAA, have done absolutely nothing for indigenous Australians. ATSIC had years, and years to do something positive for indigenous communities, but it ended ignominiously, riddled with corruption and mismanagement of the billions of dollars it received every year from the taxpayers of Australia. Both parties had agreed it needed to be abolished. And the NIAA are heading in the same direction. The voice is not the solution, it’s just going to give less than 1%, of 1%, of the 3.2% of the population of Australia, power over 99.999% of the rest of Australia’s population. Thomas Mayo the architect of the Uluru statement, and a fervent communist, has stated that he wants to see our whole system be torn down. And when you see two aboriginal men have an argument over who should be doing a smoking ceremony, (because of the money it pays) in the presence of a Labor minister, and the media, and the minister asking who organised it, and her aides say what a mess, it’s not because I’m racist, it’s because I can see with my own eyes, the division, not just between First Nations people, but the rest of the country it will cause. I vote NO.

@danielharvie-painmatters2790

10 ай бұрын

Yes Jacinta for PM

Thank you, John Anderson, for this brilliant commentary on the voice campaign. I hope this video gets shared far and wide Vote No Australia

And a few more observations. The 3.2% of the population number was about 2.5% a Census or two ago. The ABS ackowledges that the growth in the 'Indigenous' population is being largely driven by people newly identifying as Indigenous (not from births to previously identifying Indigenous people). Safe to say, none of these 'new' Indigenous people live in the town camps around Alice and the like. Indigenous people, through Native Title, Land Councils, control over National Parks etc manage over 50% of the land area of the continent. This is hardly anti-reconciliation! In recent times we have had the apology, welcome to country and ackowledgement of past tribal lands have become public meeting staples, Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags are considered to have equal status to the Austarlian flag and so on. None of this suggests any anti-reconciliation movement, but of couorse it's still not enough without the Voice. The sad thing is that none of these virtue signalling changes have actually made a difference to the people who actually need assistance - the point you make John about what has happened to all that money! No, of course, an additional elitist Indigenous identifying body, with the power to comment (advise government) on just about everything, but without any responsibility to deliver anything, will make all the difference. It saddens me really that there is any support for the Voice as it is being promoted - too many people are happy to 'feel good' without actually worrying about whether it will really make any difference.

@johngeier8692

11 ай бұрын

Things have already gone too far. There should only be one Australian flag on public buildings and structures. Race should be kept out of the constitution and all people should be treated equally by law.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Tony, your powers of deduction are a wonder to behold. So much from so little.

@ante7094

11 ай бұрын

Brilliant comment Tony!!! Couldn't have said it better myself!!

@Nick-rr5cy

10 ай бұрын

Exactly what I think ,I just couldn’t put it in words like you ,spot on

@gustaaf1892

10 ай бұрын

Your last point about people wanting to vote YES to feel good about themselves without understanding the longer term consequences is really important. The majority of those are the younger voters who like to follow the majority. Those are the people we need to get through to so that they understand how monumental this proposed change to the Constitution is.

Coherent, logical, factual and sincere truth telling...what a smart bloke...I applaud this man.

@warwickbaird9843

10 ай бұрын

No its not. He continuously misrepresents and obfuscates.

Indigenous Australians already have a "VOICE" to parliament, as do all Australians. It is called your local federal member. If you do not like how your local member is representing you, then vote them out and run for parliament yourself. This is how a democracy works for "ALL" Australians, not just for one particular race.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

it’s not based on race. It’s based on who was on this land first. There’s a difference. They are like me, Australian. The voice is how they believe they can best help their future generations and end the cycle of neglect. It might help, it might not but they are my brothers and sisters and I support them in trying. This is why I’m voting yes.

@wheres_bears1378

10 ай бұрын

@@Nylandersaraus1permanently separating one group from another on a piece of paper will not help anything. It’s a cultural issue that runs a lot deeper than that.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@wheres_bears1378 I don’t believe it is separating us, I truly don’t. It see it as us non indigenous Australians actually saying, as a majority, that listening to our first Australians is important. It will bring us together. I believe the super majority of Australians want better outcomes for our indigenous brothers and sisters and I believe this is the way. Everything else has failed this might just work. Maybe I’m to optimistic who knows but I want to live in a hopeful world not a cynical one.

@anordenaryman.7057

10 ай бұрын

@@Nylandersaraus1 Nobody has ever moved forward by looking backwards. You are right in that all Australians want a better life for Aboriginals, just like we want a better life for anyone who is struggling. The absolute root cause of Aboriginal poverty is that a traditionally hunter gatherer culture can not generate wealth. It is that simple. Those 80% of Aboriginals that have taken on the ways of our modern civilisation are living well. The 20% that are trying to live in their traditional ways are in poverty as there is no money to be made in those ways. It is a sad fact that not one single rural Aboriginal community could last a month without other people's tax dollars supporting them. But it IS a fact. The stone age is over. The hunter gatherers are long gone. We have to move on. We can't do that by trying to turn back the clock to a lifestyle that no Aboriginal lives any more. This is not being racist, it is being truthful. This is truth telling.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@anordenaryman.7057 you know what I respect your opinion. This is what it’s all about. Not hate but a difference in approach. I agree life is never going back to pre-colonial times and thinking it will serves no one. My opinion is that everything we have done has mostly failed regarding improving the lives of indigenous people. At least of late I think for the most part everyone has had the best intentions however one thing that hasn’t been tried is taking the advice of indigenous people themselves. I think it’s worth a shot and this is what they are asking for. I cannot say no to this request. Hope this makes sense. But like I said I understand there is no malice or hate behind your answer which feel quite rare with no supporters. I’ll give you an example I was volunteering on a Yes campaign stall over the weekend. Of the people that confidently said they were voting No, when engaged they most ended by saying something that was either outright racist like “they are all lazy drunks” or untrue like “that want my land”. So you can see it’s refreshing seeing a response like yours.

HEAR HEAR! You hit the nail right on the head! This Voice will divide Australians between races and that in itself is RACIST. We have to vote NO to this, we have to send a message to Albo and his Labor mob that we as Australians will not stand for division! A lot of Australians were led in the wrong direction to vote for Labor under unity, now we are seeing the true colours of Labor and I am not gonna play the blame game but hopefully these same Australians who voted Labor will finally see the true colours of Albo and Labor and punish them for trying to divide us! We are one, But we are many, And from all the lands on Earth we come, We'll share a dream, And sing with one voice, I am, you are, WE ARE AUSTRALIAN!

Thank you John. Very well researched and presented. This is exactly the kind of truth telling we need now, before voting in a referendum. Vote No is the best way to go and the least divisive.

@goldfish5827

10 ай бұрын

I’d like to see the parts where he is “well researched” because as someone very engaged in the topic it seams like his only source is sky news with their favourite line “it’s going to divide Australians by race”. What he is doing is not truth telling it is scare mungering. It is easier to be scared of progress than it is to accept it.

Fully agree. Is this what the Labor Party actually wanted, to divide Australia along racial lines? Two countries, two policies? If so, just tell us Australians the truth. Where does the referendum mention the Makarrata Commission they have already put a budget to, where is the Treaty (setting blame) and where is the Truth (reparations and the payment of a rent from non-indigenous to mob) in any part of the referendum question? We don't want Australia divided on the basis of colour of skin, we are one people, one Nation and one VOICE! Please help to cancel this ridiculous proposal and stop it inflaming racial and political tensions. Please! No more ATSIC's, not again!

@jw-vx8im

11 ай бұрын

We will end up like Europe a woke mess

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

What a conundrum. Riddles within riddles. Scratchees on my headsees. Oh God no. I've drawn blood!

@glennduncan6843

11 ай бұрын

@@user-ul9dv2iv9s Know the feeling. This is what happens when the whole truth is not stated and yet it is so bloody obvious there is more to it, hence all the confusion. Time for honesty and just tell us what you really want to achieve. All I can at the moment is to divide our beautiful country along racial lines, an absolute anathema to all Australians.

I want my "independent" voice to our parliament written into our constitution also.

The Voice is part of a six stage strategy, the Voice itself is stage 5 and stage 6 is Makarrata. The aims are clearly stated "A TREATY could include a proper say in decision making, the establishment of a TRUTH commission, REPARATIONS, a financial settlement (such as seeking a PERCENTAGE OF GDP), the resolution of land, water and resources issues, RECOGNITION OF AUTHORITY and CUSTOMARY LAW" (from page 19 of a 26 page document released under FOI from the National Indigenous Australian Agency, page 1 is titled Uluru statement from the heart [centre justified]) "Makarrata is the culmination of our agenda" from the Uluru Statement from the Heart (page 1). So its very clear not only is the Voice an assault on democratic principles, not only does it introduce race/cultural identity into the constitution, its part of an agenda that the Prime Minister himself promotes VOICE - TREATY - TRUTH. He even has the T - shirt.

Well said John Anderson. I just wish the majority of Australians would look more deeply, I fear they'll vote yes on 'the vibe' and we'll then have no end of trouble.

Whoever is on this man's media team NEEDS A RAISE!!!

@isabellewilliamson4417

11 ай бұрын

So true!

@mckenziehellenann

10 ай бұрын

Linda Burney should get his name...

What about the idea that this is a stepping stone to taking away our properties we bought legitimately? Via fees and burdensome levies, like rent for owning a property.

Mr Anderson, I use to love how you spoke in parliament during question time. So eloquently, but as a man with passion in your convictions for a better society and a better country to fulfil everones potential. You still inspire me and if I may say so, you are still a very impressive figure, if a may say so Sir.

It’s a Trojan Horse! For the sake of anything left that is holy, VOTE NO!

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

I'm praying. Lord, send down jesus now. We be needing saving from these commies.

Thanks John - well said. Poverty and its ongoing effects are evident in both indigenous and non-indigenous communities. #TheVoice is a class issue dressed up as a race issue.

@jw-vx8im

11 ай бұрын

Just like Atsic was

@locustsandhoney486

10 ай бұрын

FACEPALM. A FOREIGN POWER. IS DOING IT TO YOUR AUSTRALIAN IMPERIAL CROWN ON PURPOSE. COSTELLO. IS UNDER OATH...... TO WHAT YOU DOLT.

@steventapp1375

10 ай бұрын

For me it’s the indigenous communities that are not near the east coast or the cities. All low socioeconomic class living there have opportunities and support available and that shouldn’t stop either. The rural/outback communities are indigenous and they don’t have the same support and opportunities. That’s where the biggest gap is IMO. And I don’t think the Voice is the answer.

It is the start of a slippery slope. It will turn into an industry that cost hundreds of billions of dollars. I live in New Zealand and have watched it happen every day for my entire life.

As an American, I hope and pray this does not pass. Godspeed Australia 🇦🇺 🙏 🇦🇺

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

Why is that?

There is no place in our most important legal document for a special body based on racial descent, particularly when the proponents remain silent on full disclosure of all relevant information.

Would love to hear you in conversation people who disagree, For it is lacking these points you raise in this video are spot on.

Thank you John, for articulating the case for no, so eloquently.

Every word spoken is correct . Have not heard this truth spoken so well and clearly . I have worked with and interacted with Aboriginal people for many years . Thankyou for bring this message forward , today .

Richard Trudgen, author of "Why Warriors Lay Down and Die" (2000), succinctly explains how and why the Gap exists; but because he isn't a politician or an academic his practical solutions for medical and educational factors creating the gap have been dismissed. His book needs to be in every college and university. I'd like every person in Australia to read it.

@JohnLoogleman

10 ай бұрын

You'd like every Australian to read it...I really couldn't care less mate. I'm tired to my bones of the aboriginal fetishism in this country. It's downright creepy. I won't be reading it, give a copy to some wealthy white lefty so they fiddle with themselves while reading it.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

Whats the summary?

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

​@@benm468Utter garbage. The same racist line has been used against all sorts of populations over the last century or so.

Thank you so much John. You have always been a fair minded, open and very intelligent person. You are calm and thoughtful even when Deputy PM of the Nation facing the rough and tumble politics of Canberra. I was thinking of contacting Peta Credlin to brief KK & FF of Triggernometry through Douglas Murray and yourself. They could provide some international exposure. More than some of dreadful and inaccurate portrayals as seen on GB news a couple of days ago with an awful Indian-English race hustler . I am not sure this is a good idea as us Aussies usually don't appreciate outsiders providing commentary unless they are well across our unique and complex situation. But thank you for providing more depth and oft ignored or facts that simply are omitted by the National broadcaster.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

John, you've got to stop putting in these comments under pseudonyms. It's very bad form.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

@@user-ul9dv2iv9s😂😂

We are facing similar challenges in Canada, currently around simplistic readings of history and efforts to shut down any view or evidence that does not fit a divisive narrative based on racial identity of villains and victims. We already have court rulings that recognize group rights for some (Indigenous peoples) and individual rights for others (everyone else). Thus your group membership determines how the law treats you. Equality before the law has all but been eliminated.

Once, the UK house of Lords was based on ancestry (or rather class) and the Lords themselves, on the basis of ancestry, had two votes, plus the right of veto in the upper house. Today, the Australian upper house is voted in by ALL Australians. And.the upper house senators do not have two votes. The Voice, if elected, will be elected by a separate group of people ( two votes) based on race/ancestry as an elite group which provides no access to ALL Australians. Should "pay the rent " be invoked ( in fact it already is to the tune of $30 + billion annually), it will replicate the feudal times of UK where the "lesser classes" ( non-indigenous in the Australian situation) paid rents to the Lordly owners of the land, to work and produce the food that kept the nation functioning. Of course, the Lords did not work. Quite frightening .

@LlywellynOBrien

11 ай бұрын

The proposal is for an advisory body, it'd have no power to create, change, veto or strike out legislation.

@PjRjHj

11 ай бұрын

​@@LlywellynOBrien it will certainly have the power to bog down governance through the courts.q

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

@@PjRjHj Whether true or not, that's irrelevant to what I've said.

Race relations aren't degrading despite recent measures around aboriginal special treatment. They are degrading BECAUSE of those measures.

@chadjcrase

11 ай бұрын

Without being glib, I think Morgan Freeman really said it best; just stop talking about it, and the 'racism' goes away.

@neildepressedtyson540

11 ай бұрын

No

Hello John As someone who is planning on voting yes, I am very thankful for your thought out video. I am unable to access your article on the Australian as it is hidden behind a paywall, so I am unsure if you have have cited these questions in that article. Before you start listing these myths, you state "It will always be looking for areas of disagreement". I would like to ask why you think The Voices job is to look for disagreement. My understanding was its role is to give advice, 129-ii "Voice may make representations to the Parliament". Your video makes many good points I hadnt thought about, I agree that there is a lot we are doing a a country, but it isnt really working at the moment. My hope is The Voice will be the thing that works.

Thanks for mentioning W.E.H. Stanner. Too few people know who he was. The amazing cultures he documented have been almost entirely replaced by a purely political construction whose sole purpose seems to be to rentseek.

The voice opens the door on removing home ownership of all Australians. This is not just to any Australian!!!!!!!

@credenza1

11 ай бұрын

A point that is being overlooked. It is an attack on property rights.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Sounds Australian to me. Oops, unaustralian. Sorry, unaustralian.

@baobo67

11 ай бұрын

I see it as the thin edge of the wedge to many hidden agenders.

@banta-pd8zj

11 ай бұрын

Prove there's a hidden agenda. You're talking through your second pair of cheeks.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

You're worried about stuff being taken off you? You should be. Conservatives in this country want theft enshrined. They took it off the aborigines. The Conservatives will take anything they want off you. Look at the track record. All aborigines want is some redress. Have they blown up things with bombs? No. Have they shot people down willy nilly? No. Are they working within the law? Yes Yes Yes.

Interesting how your accused of racism if you vote no to a racist concept. In my 70 years I've never seen Australia so broken/divided by the proposal of "The Voice"

@jasonsangwin4006

11 ай бұрын

People really need to give that the word the indifference it deserves with how it is now being used. It is not being used by serious people.

@jw-vx8im

11 ай бұрын

Don't worry it's getting worse. Look at Europe and America. A woke joke

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

That was Dutton doing. He made a choice to go down the ‘the voice is racist’ path. it’s not based on race. It’s based on who was on this land first. There’s a difference. They are like me, Australian. The voice is how they believe they can best help their future generations and end the cycle of neglect. It might help, it might not but they are my brothers and sisters and I support them in trying. This is why I’m voting yes.

@destructorzz7197

10 ай бұрын

​​@@Nylandersaraus1if they're all Australian, why do they need to be separated from other Australians? And why, if it's not racist, does it imply that all aboriginals think the same way? "It might help, it might not" This is an INCREDIBLY immature and dangerous response. You are changing the very legal fabric of the country. Every decision will be passed through the voice.

@jw-vx8im

10 ай бұрын

@@Nylandersaraus1 fair point

Bravo, well said. The argument stating to enshrine the Voice implies the job will never be done is a profound one. This is a revitalising dose of common sense, practical thinking, and optimism. Ironically enough I believe voting no will unite more Australians together against racism than the yes side could even dream of doing themselves.

@Nylandersaraus1

10 ай бұрын

it’s not based on race. It’s based on who was on this land first. There’s a difference. They are like me, Australian. The voice is how they believe they can best help their future generations and end the cycle of neglect. It might help, it might not but they are my brothers and sisters and I support them in trying. This is why I’m voting yes.

@wtfire

9 ай бұрын

@@Nylandersaraus1 "Who was on this land first" is not a strong argument to make considering how far we have all worked to advance this nation together, and now that we've built a prosperous society, SOME aboriginal activists seem to want a greater share of that pie all to themselves. There is no difference between the Voice and racism, it is an "Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander" representative Voice, not an "Australian" Voice, it separates our nation into two distinct categories; with one category enjoying a distinct advantage over the other. And this just so happens to fall precisely within the boundaries of race. If you're aboriginal or torres straight islander, you're in. If you don't have any of this race in your blood, you're out. There can literally be no other clearer definition of racism. It also breeds division and separation. This is as clear as day.

I come from a small town. And believe me, there are times I would benefitted from meant vouchers, food vouchers, new clothes and mining royalties, but alas, I am not indigenous.

Anthony Albanese and the Labor Party has failed all Australians since being elected, he has done little to better our lives in this resource rich land. In fact he now is in the process to tying our other hand behind our backs. The Politicians love nothing more than a divided nation as to manipulate us easier. Do not put up with this rubbish.

@NathanCroucher

11 ай бұрын

What happened to that Chinese military base that was going to be built in the solomons?? huh? Labor sorted that out in like 2 days.

@user-ul9dv2iv9s

11 ай бұрын

Pollies hey. Good thing Johnno's not a pollie. Talk about crackers.

@elainestaples9495

11 ай бұрын

Really? That is why the Chinese are propping up the police. It is unlikely 'Chinese advice would promote equality of all people in the Solomon's.

What has happened to the calibre of people representing us today. There are no contemporary John Anderson’s ii politics today.

Yes, changing OUR Constitution means they can do much more - yes, a Trojan Horse indeed!!! Looks wonderful, wrapped in gift wrap, a fabulous and heart-rending message of hope and kindness…

Thanks for the info. I was already sceptical about it, believing it to be divisive instead of bringing people together and you confirmed it. I know what my vote will be!

Odd how all the references are from the Murdoch Press. Rupert is famous for honesty and supporting democracy around the world.

@andrewmiller6051

11 ай бұрын

Tell us all you know about the Voice Peter and what specifically in this video was incorrect. Or are you just throwing out empty words to pretend to have an argument?

@peterbreis5407

11 ай бұрын

@@andrewmiller6051 Not going into the The Voice, just the source of John's information. A deep and poisonous well. We do not need the Rupe to do to us what he has done to the USA and Britain.

@drsnapid

11 ай бұрын

The talking points seem quite familiar don't they. I don't think John is presenting a balanced view here. We all know he's anti voice. I think he's at least anti voice for more intelligent reasons than most. There are a lot of comments on here from people who'll vote for or heap praise on anyone who promotes a no vote no matter the reason

@PjRjHj

11 ай бұрын

​@@drsnapid he's not intending to be balanced, he's promoting the case for a no vote, which is inline with his convictions and his right to do.

The Australian Commonwealth already has peerless national unity and 'truth telling', for most of its population it's the default setting. 'Closing the gap' is entirely subjective, a gap can't be defined without mathematics, Australia also has written and unwritten treaties, a bunch of them, they're called Common Law, the Magna Carta, and, you know, common sense and human decency. Australia is of one of the most successful, beautiful and precious countries in human history and has no need for reparations (for what, to whom and why?) and is also the world's oldest democracy. While I'm at it, there is no such thing as 'race', it's an invention, can we get rid of it? J.A is a good man and his arguments and character shine through here. I for one will be taking his advice.

@neildepressedtyson540

11 ай бұрын

God why can't you people ever say you just hate Aboriginals and you don't want to help them.

@LlywellynOBrien

10 ай бұрын

Bruh, the concept of the gap is about the statistical differences in a range of fields between indigenous and non-indigenous Australians. So I'd say math has been involved. Treaty and reparations are seperate concepts to the Voice, though Treaty is widely viewed as a critical step by advocates. Race is indeed made up, but it does serve as a short hand for a genuine difference between peoples. In our case, simply wishing away the grave historical wrongs or contemporary disadvantages of indigenous Australians is not a morally permissable option.

@falconmclenny7284

10 ай бұрын

Um.. there is such thing as race, it's a proven concept, what noted differences between us all. Don't preach that lie.

@neildepressedtyson540

10 ай бұрын

@@falconmclenny7284 that's not a race, that's a phenotype expression.

@falconmclenny7284

10 ай бұрын

@@neildepressedtyson540 so.. a race?

An educated discussion on the truth. We don't need to put Australia in reverse and bring back segregation. All are born equal. We need to work towards making sure that stays the truth, not feed guilt and lies into our society. Vote No!