The view from Trump Country

Take a look at the Election Day electoral map, and much of the nation appears to be Trump Country. But zero in closely enough on just one spot, and you'll find real people with real concerns behind the red. Ted Koppel visits McDowell County in West Virginia - coal country - to talk with voters about how they chose the next president.

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  • @bradmetcalf5333
    @bradmetcalf53337 жыл бұрын

    You knows its bad when Wal-Mart closes

  • @srgvette28

    @srgvette28

    6 жыл бұрын

    PREACH!!!!!!!

  • @spacedoginnebraska

    @spacedoginnebraska

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wal-Mart comes in, builds a store, takes away all the small businesses, then vanishes when there is no more profit to squeeze out of a community. I will never support Wal-Mart, or any other big business that runs a similar model.

  • @chado3000

    @chado3000

    6 жыл бұрын

    Wal-Mart sucks

  • @HeelerHouse

    @HeelerHouse

    6 жыл бұрын

    Only 3 stores I have is A Wal-Mart, Dollar General, and Various gas stations. Wal-Mart's been in my town for a while, and we have 23,428 People in the county (2017 US Census), So I don't see it closing down soon.

  • @vidguy007

    @vidguy007

    6 жыл бұрын

    Theres lots of closed Walmarts all over.

  • @noad1001
    @noad10017 жыл бұрын

    I am immigrant black and I leave in big city and have 6 figure annual job. it is easy for me and others who leave in big cities to say that Trump supporters are racist. but this is the reason why they voted for Trump. its us Dems and liberals who let down the working class in rural areas.

  • @majmage

    @majmage

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sure, but I think people just need to understand the problem better: *Jobs are a mountain*, with high-tech jobs at the top. *Technology is a rising floodwater* and the rate it consumes the lowest-tech jobs is accelerating over time (for thousands of years it didn't consume much, but within the last decade it has consumed a lot). *Education moves people up the mountain*. So while these people think that an attempt to re-create obsolete jobs is a viable strategy, it's fundamentally doomed. Support of a candidate who runs on this doomed strategy is an example of why education is also super important for democracy to work (people need to understand the problem so they can tell the difference between a temporary bandaid and a long-term path to prosperity.) (Incidentally I think Bernie's education plan was to make college free? _That_ is planning for the future.) It seems likely that technology will consume nearly every job at some point (possibly literally every job). As this happens, we'll certainly need to transition our economy to some new system. Here's a great article on how self-driving trucks are a floodwater about to consume one of the largest sources of employment in many states: medium.com/basic-income/self-driving-trucks-are-going-to-hit-us-like-a-human-driven-truck-b8507d9c5961#.lutv8lquv

  • @albandeforrest4795

    @albandeforrest4795

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. I live in PA, which if you saw the statistics, we got demolished in our rural electoral voting districts. That's why PA was Republican this year around.

  • @noad1001

    @noad1001

    7 жыл бұрын

    what you need to understand is that I told you I am immigrant so english is not my first language and also you need to understand english is a language not a knowledge that can earn you 6 figures. think before you write.

  • @albandeforrest4795

    @albandeforrest4795

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** Did you not hear that he's an immigrant? If you had to move to another country and speak their language, how would you feel? Don't be disrespectful.

  • @noad1001

    @noad1001

    7 жыл бұрын

    Damian Cairns language is not a knowledge as long as we understand each other that is fine.

  • @dvsteve71
    @dvsteve717 жыл бұрын

    I don't think coal is coming back, but I wish all the best for these people.

  • @user-sq3ke5nz3l

    @user-sq3ke5nz3l

    7 жыл бұрын

    Trump said a lot of things. Obama said a lot of things too. People running for president are good at saying stuff.

  • @Injustify123

    @Injustify123

    7 жыл бұрын

    Coal is still a very reliable source of energy, the main reason why plants are shutting down is over regulation. People need to understand that Trump advocated for less regulation, which would lead to a possible economic boom in counties such as this one in the video.

  • @victoriahale5254

    @victoriahale5254

    7 жыл бұрын

    Over L0ad OSRS you do realize half the water in WV is shit bc of all the blasting from coal mining? Over regulation? Tell that kids when they are drinking flint style water. everything has a price and no one will do the right wo regulations.that 20 an HR job isn't gonna help if you have shit health at 55

  • @theuglykwan

    @theuglykwan

    6 жыл бұрын

    Coal actually might come back. The reason is China. They are shifting to renewables and cancelling plans to build more plants in China cos they now care about pollution but they are planning to build a ton of coal plants in developing countries. That is going to create huge demand for coal, not sure if America can provide it at the right price, perhaps with alot of automation they can. That will probably take a decade or 2 for the demand to materialize and perhaps longer for the coal minses to reopen though.

  • @rochester212

    @rochester212

    6 жыл бұрын

    Never heard anyone getting better just by wishing it!!!

  • @Ye_._
    @Ye_._6 жыл бұрын

    *can you go back and interview them again and see if things changed?*

  • @pennythefirst2772

    @pennythefirst2772

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just wait until 2020

  • @autumntriesthings

    @autumntriesthings

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @blushchickengaming5990

    @blushchickengaming5990

    3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who lives here, I can testify that things indeed have. Business is booming, our economy is great, and the people here love Trump for it

  • @evelynantl897

    @evelynantl897

    3 жыл бұрын

    I would be very interested on how the county is doing 4 years later.

  • @realworldissues

    @realworldissues

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@blushchickengaming5990 what does lying get you am actually confused?? Like I understand lying to others but please don't lie to yourself it isn't healthy. The whole county economy is low and businesses are closed so why are you saying business is booming. www.forbes.com/sites/chuckjones/2020/03/07/the-coal-industry-has-lost-almost-one-thousand-jobs-since-trump-became-president/?sh=34fe716d2e29

  • @babakmo
    @babakmo5 жыл бұрын

    “It is easier to fool the people, than to convince them they have been fooled." - Mark Twain

  • @estenografista
    @estenografista7 жыл бұрын

    This gave me goosebumps. A wonderful piece of real jornalism.!

  • @knowthinself8107
    @knowthinself81074 жыл бұрын

    They need to go back now 2019 and ask the same questions.

  • @HalfwayJac

    @HalfwayJac

    4 жыл бұрын

    They need to do this now in 2020!

  • @innoclaustdbd2894

    @innoclaustdbd2894

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@HalfwayJac McDowell is a lot better now! Unemployment is at an historic low, due to the opening of the new Harris State mine by President Trump! From 19k the population went to 23k, a miracle! Welfare is also on historic low! Check your facts please!

  • @ZachRULES96

    @ZachRULES96

    3 жыл бұрын

    Innoclaust DbD actually the population is at 17 thousand

  • @kbanghart

    @kbanghart

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@innoclaustdbd2894 LOL check your facts, the Mine was opened before Trump was president.

  • @david2727

    @david2727

    Жыл бұрын

    Well it's 2023 and all I can say it hasn't changed much but the population has dropped even more 😂!

  • @gzsprout
    @gzsprout7 жыл бұрын

    I had to spend a week in Welch, WV for work about a decade ago. It was such a beautiful town that even then was a sliver of what it had been. Obama hasn't been good for coal, but he's not the problem. Coal is and has bee dying, especially in WV. I hope WV finds a way to recover, but if you don't adapt and change, you die. It's like that everywhere, not just Welch, WV. Best of luck to them!

  • @lgmmrm

    @lgmmrm

    5 жыл бұрын

    Coal can be brought back pretty easily: incentivize industries that rely on steel to buy american, and incentivize steel mills to use American Coal

  • @tkw3787

    @tkw3787

    3 жыл бұрын

    My heart goes out to them. I hope they find a solution but I'm sorry to say i seriously dont believe coal is going to solve things here. The regulations and health implications is a touchy subject and no one is willing to go down that road which is why the coal industry continues to decline. Capitalism is real and coal just isnt on their top ten list which is why none of our leaders have been able to make the changes that WV needs.

  • @jeep19

    @jeep19

    3 жыл бұрын

    Obama had nothing to do with whether coal was staying or leaving! You bring him up cause he told them the truth, the industry is dying out, and being replaced with cleaner alternatives!

  • @michaelgonzalez1041
    @michaelgonzalez10417 жыл бұрын

    why not move? if illegal immigrants can move across entire countries to look for work why can't they move to another city to look for work? if you just sit and wait for the jobs to come to you it might never happen

  • @bharath773

    @bharath773

    7 жыл бұрын

    I blame Obesity,ill education and yeah creation myths spewed out from their county's mega church!

  • @robertpreskop4425

    @robertpreskop4425

    6 жыл бұрын

    Michael Gonzalez moving is very expensive and if you dont have a marketable skill than you will end up in worse poverty especially if you move to one of the real big cities like New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles. The three biggest cities in the US are rough, competitive towns that will eat you up and spit you out.

  • @Mark2756042

    @Mark2756042

    5 жыл бұрын

    "Moving to where the jobs are" requires people to abandon their families. Some people can and will do that. Others don't. It's not a simple choice. Nor is it simple to be a property owner in a shuttered community who has limited equity in valueless property in a place like McDowell County to try to unload it and then afford much pricier property in a community elsewhere where "the jobs are".

  • @889976889
    @8899768896 жыл бұрын

    I'm from Pennsylvania I have friends from vest Virginia I've always been a fan of people from the south some of the most down to earth people I've ever met. I really feel bad for the people in West Virginia I really do. But as tough as it is for you guys it's great to see how yous all stick together through the struggle. That's the American way. Have faith people!

  • @JPMJPM
    @JPMJPM6 жыл бұрын

    I’d like Ted Koppel to go back today and see what the people think of Trump now. I’m curious.

  • @speakonianjny5004
    @speakonianjny50047 жыл бұрын

    Strange election in West Virginia, Hillary couldn't even win a single county but Jim Justice, a Democrat, won the governor election.

  • @G1CAAAAEO

    @G1CAAAAEO

    3 жыл бұрын

    Some, I say SOME, local Democrats who have some feeling for the people and their needs left can win elections. But conservative democrats are being killed off by the Democrat party elite.

  • @dd9915
    @dd99157 жыл бұрын

    I feel so much sympathy for that single mom who said she didn't vote 😥

  • @david2727

    @david2727

    Жыл бұрын

    Your mother was one of the smarter ones.

  • @oldred9122
    @oldred91227 жыл бұрын

    If they don't like it, why don't they just move? I mean, that's what they've been telling us liberals for years

  • @Mike4metal
    @Mike4metal5 жыл бұрын

    I truly wish this town and it”s people survival.

  • @eleonard8052
    @eleonard80527 жыл бұрын

    Trump could care less about these people. Theres only soo much coal in the ground. Coal will never ever come back. I feel for their plight but This is a different time. They need to move where industry is. Or. stay there and be poor and sell their oxycontin

  • @coolkids64

    @coolkids64

    7 жыл бұрын

    US has enough coal for 465 years overall minimum because we are the most coal rich country but it's more expensive and pollution is way higher that is why it got cut off it has been declining since the 50's we nee manufacturing and agriculture jobs to replace this it is way more productive not more coal jobs we are looking towards renewable energy in the future we have whole huge deserts , rivers and windy areas for that

  • @ebrown0071

    @ebrown0071

    6 жыл бұрын

    How are people going to get up and leave when they do not have the financial resources to do so?

  • @rl2769

    @rl2769

    5 жыл бұрын

    E Leonard coal is booming in this area now. Trump kept his word. 😁

  • @chriskoob
    @chriskoob7 жыл бұрын

    Here's a crazy thought, instead of hollering about the good old days, how about getting off the mountain dew and going back to school and learning a new skill other than how to tunnel underground and catching black lung? you got half of West Virginia dealing with waste water thanks to all the blasting of mountains, and then you got the other half wishing it was 1979 all over again. The dirty secret that they don't want to tell anyone, tween jobs going overseas, domestic companies that would rather pay illegal immigrants half of what the citizens here make (because you know damn well your not going to work for 8 bucks an HR when the same job use to pay $20), and those same companies switching to computers that will never call in sick or ask for time off, those jobs are NEVER coming back, but as long as they keep selling you this illusion that if you vote for this person it's gonna be the "good ol days" all over again, you will keep on taking the bait

  • @evancollins4458

    @evancollins4458

    7 жыл бұрын

    Because education is very expensive, either you can afford it or you can't. And if you don't have the cash to do so you need loans, which the banks may deny if you have a bad credit score due to being unemployed and behind on your home/car payments. How do you teach people with HS degrees to run wind turbines or code? Honestly you don't, you find skilled laborer (middle class) to do so. It's easy to look at their problems and tell them what they're doing wrong, but imagine being in their shoes. On average they make less money, and live shorter lives than their parents. Donald Trump is a fucking asshole, but he's an asshole who saw what was going wrong and spoke about it. Maybe nothing will change for these people, but from their POV they have no other option.

  • @chriskoob

    @chriskoob

    7 жыл бұрын

    cept heres one problem with that type of thinking, Trump has made millions off the private sector for 30 years, in that time, what did he do his employees who worked on the lower rungs? I lived in philly in the 80s which is only 90 minutes from atlantic city, we saw how the casinos started hot but then crashed and burned because the unions weren't happy with what they were getting paid, and it wasn't just them, the man went bankrupt 4 times, which right their proves he is no great businessman, and he's been sued dozen of times by people he worked with, his entire track record proves he is only out for one person and that's him, and these same low income people who think he will be the great white hope, are going to learn the hard way that all he had was smoke and mirrors, and the only sad thing is, half of them, wont admit they were wrong when they voted for him,

  • @evancollins4458

    @evancollins4458

    7 жыл бұрын

    chriskoob Sure, I agree with you that Trump would not do much for the average working class voter. That being said don't blame them for making that decision, HRC lost their trust years ago and never made any attempts to reconcile and/or explain her actions. Not to mention the whole media went full SJW and complained day in and day out about his racist/sexist/stupid comments. They could have roasted him for his failed business ventures, his shady dealings abroad, etc. But no, they thought that news about Trump hurting someones feelings was more important.

  • @chriskoob

    @chriskoob

    7 жыл бұрын

    Evan Collins I think half of them honestly never believed that he would ever get elected and the other half, the folks in management just wanted to ride the gravy train he was bringing them with all the rating and clicks for webpages, if you ran a newspaper or a news station trump was as good for business as OJ was in the 90s, as for Hllary, I think she just took for granted that she had the election wrapped up, Obama his the nail on the head the other day when he said the only reason why he won Iowa in 08 was because he put in the foot work and went to all the diners and vfw's , and talked to any and everyone who would listen to him, he basically threw her under the bus for not engaging people the way he did, HELL even Bill had no problem meeting with people on their level and making them feel like he cared out them, but Hillary always came off like that was too common for her, and those same people kicked her in the ass for it

  • @nicholasseamans4946

    @nicholasseamans4946

    7 жыл бұрын

    Where the would they go? This is a county in West Virginia of 19,000. You are not offering any solutions, you are just patronizing.

  • @richardstrumsky6365
    @richardstrumsky63654 жыл бұрын

    Well this was posted in November 2016. It's not too far off from the 3 year mark that Ted K. talked to these people. How's their faith in Trump now?

  • @tipofmytongue1024
    @tipofmytongue10247 жыл бұрын

    Every single person needs to watch this right now.

  • @paulandrews298

    @paulandrews298

    5 жыл бұрын

    Why just single people, married people should watch this also.

  • @Dickie9028
    @Dickie90287 жыл бұрын

    OMG does this place really exist in America? Really, and they really voted for Trump?

  • @jayfkncool4258

    @jayfkncool4258

    5 жыл бұрын

    They all did my friend

  • @tkw3787

    @tkw3787

    3 жыл бұрын

    So sad

  • @Beckala67
    @Beckala675 жыл бұрын

    They need to do a follow up and see how they feel now

  • @emmetttowey4279
    @emmetttowey42797 жыл бұрын

    So So sad for these people. They Just elected a Billionaire New York City Capitalist to the presidency. You cant stop progress. We are not hiring anymore toll collectors because of technology. Soon there will be no more truckers with the onset of self driving vehicles. Donald Trump is a free market capitalist. The pain these people feel will now get much worse much more rapidly. I am not saying the Democrats could change any of this but the pain is about to get much worse much quicker. They all voted counter to their own self interests economically.

  • @SacksThriftAve

    @SacksThriftAve

    7 жыл бұрын

    Emmett Towey you are so right!!! I feel for these people! believing Trump is the coal savior! !

  • @emmetttowey4279

    @emmetttowey4279

    7 жыл бұрын

    please read this article..... This is exactly my point. www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-wall-street-bankers-231524

  • @RagingOwlbear

    @RagingOwlbear

    7 жыл бұрын

    The real tragedy is that no Democrat or Republican can help these people in the way they need it. Coal is not coming back... Or at least, the jobs aren't because of automation, as you note. Regulations are not what kills jobs. Technology does. Technology isn't evil, but this is a side effect of an automation economy. They won't want to hear this, but they need something other than coal to fix the West Virginia economy... and it won't be Donald Trump.

  • @CatHasOpinions734

    @CatHasOpinions734

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Marty Walser Just because coal isn't coming back doesn't mean nothing can be done to help these people. One policy that might help, that Clinton was at least giving lip-service to and that is championed more sincerely by Bernie Sanders and Elisabeth Warren (among others) is free public college, so that they wouldn't have to go in debt to get a decent career. The real problem is that they THINK bringing back the coal jobs is possible, because politicians have been lying and pretending it's possible for decades because it's the easiest way to manipulate their support. It's tragically easy to convince people of what they want to believe.

  • @RagingOwlbear

    @RagingOwlbear

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** That's what I was meaning when I noted that they need something other than coal to fix their economy.

  • @TKillin
    @TKillin7 жыл бұрын

    Food stamps?! Double the unemployment?! I blame their upbringing.

  • @Jake-rs9nq
    @Jake-rs9nq2 жыл бұрын

    5:54 "Throughout the whole election, I never heard either party talk about the lower class." And that's why neither party can pull West Virginia out of poverty.

  • @kbanghart

    @kbanghart

    2 жыл бұрын

    Why, because they don't care about the lower class? Or these people don't care about changing their own circumstances?

  • @Pereasaul_8
    @Pereasaul_87 жыл бұрын

    Business in the front , party in the back haircut lol

  • @MrRGBTV
    @MrRGBTV4 жыл бұрын

    Could you do a follow up please to see how the voters are getting along now? That would be terrific to hear.

  • @MrH4R0
    @MrH4R07 жыл бұрын

    Just Heartbreaking :(

  • @ro19891012
    @ro198910127 жыл бұрын

    Have those people heard of changing jobs, learning a new trick or moving away? What they are saying is basically that if I have been digging coals to earn a living in the past, I should be able to keep digging coals in future forever and ever; If I can't, because the market changes or some other factors, it must be somebody's fault, not my stubborn refusal to adapt to new situation...

  • @Bbenja4

    @Bbenja4

    7 жыл бұрын

    Andrew Rong that sounds like middle class white privilege. Why can't the urban poor move out of the ghetto? If you never been poor than you'll never understand.

  • @ro19891012

    @ro19891012

    7 жыл бұрын

    Republicans, the party that emphases on "personal responsibility, have been saying people in ghetto need to stop making irresponsible life choices. The same applies on rural white people AS WELL. And with all the goodness in your heart, what could we possibly do? Should we make the society stay in 1900s so that town could keep being the way it was? Government forbids business from moving away? Employers not allowed to lay off staff? And business not allowed to take bankruptcy even though it's been losing money? How could we reverse the law of supply and demand? Anyone with their cheap sympathy who doesn't have the guts to tell people either to adapt or perish are giving them false hope and wasting their time...

  • @frankdurp

    @frankdurp

    7 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Andrew, my thoughts exactly......I know it's not easy for a lot of people to hear, but if if you're in a dying market with an antiquated trade, you have to adapt and change, or die with it.

  • @MrAdrenaline1982

    @MrAdrenaline1982

    7 жыл бұрын

    +Andrew If liberals keep having that elitist attitude and keep picking candidates like Hillary who don't appeal to middle America, you can bet your ass that Trump will have another victory in 2020.

  • @ro19891012

    @ro19891012

    7 жыл бұрын

    I don't support Hillary, or the Democratic party for that matter. But people are straight up delusional. How can you turn the clock back if your industry be replaced by a new one? How can you defy a global market that does not require your service anymore? Can you force other business to accept employments that they don't want? Is this the America that I know? ...and keep the Whitehouse if that's any consolation to you. You may as well start squatting in there if you still refuse to prepare yourself for a new job. I am happy to admit that I am an elite, and being an elite by definition means I can always move to a new country and those who can't leave are those who will suffer most in the worsening USA because delusional people keep electing incompetent and inexperienced person as president.

  • @cyber-psych2503
    @cyber-psych25034 жыл бұрын

    How many lumps of coal do you need to dig, or count, to figure out you might want to find a different kind of vocation.

  • @noel7777noel
    @noel7777noel7 жыл бұрын

    Trump be like, "It's like taking Candy from a baby".

  • @joycelebaron2582
    @joycelebaron25825 жыл бұрын

    This is the town that Jeannette Walls, who wrote "The Glass Castle" lived in before she moved to NY. Much of the book takes place there.

  • @dawnfletcher2028

    @dawnfletcher2028

    4 жыл бұрын

    That makes sense, thamks for sharing.

  • @kylesteinhauser2535
    @kylesteinhauser25357 жыл бұрын

    get ready to be super disappointed West Virigna.

  • @braddietzmusic2429
    @braddietzmusic24297 жыл бұрын

    Very poor form for a publicly elected police officer as a public servant expressing a private, political opinion WHILE WEARING THE UNIFORM AND THEREFORE ACTING AS A PUBLIC SERVANT. And police officers wonder why others are so suspicious and distrustful of them, when they're not unpartisan, and feel no need to publicly present as such.

  • @chrismichaelgardner
    @chrismichaelgardner7 жыл бұрын

    Help me understand. If automation and world trade is causing a changing landscape where manual labor like coal mining isn't viable, why aren't we spending money to train folks in counties like this to program robotics and compete on the world market, rather than promising things like coal mining will come back?

  • @gotinogaden

    @gotinogaden

    7 жыл бұрын

    First, it is true that reverting back to some old trades might not(and probably will not) be a viable solution. The problem is pretty much the same as in IT nowadays; you hear about all these available job positions on the tech market, and all the shortage of qualified engineers and hi-tech personnel. The catch is that this applies only for the most formally qualified, and more importantly, *talented* folks. Not everyone can become a decent "robotics operator"/engineer/programmer, let alone a rockstar developer. It is just not for everyone, and the rest have to be glad about the historical contingencies that led to IT being a lucrative field, where supply of good engineers is relatively low, and demand is pretty high.. Things could have been very different, indeed.

  • @developmentalist

    @developmentalist

    7 жыл бұрын

    ThePSXHive You are 100% correct. Look at the number of people employed by a major new IT company today. Look at Facebook today for example: 15,000 people there vs a Ford/GM factory in the 60s. These people will not be finding "new jobs" in the IT industry. That has been the white whale that people have been feeding the deindustrialized heart of the country for at least 30 years. That dog won't hunt. Something new must be done. Otherwise we will have a large disgruntled underclass with nothing to loss. Oops, already there!

  • @betteronbrunettes

    @betteronbrunettes

    7 жыл бұрын

    Chris Gardner I agree that education should be refocused. Instead of the "one size fits all" model we have, perhaps the next evolution of education will include more specialized training for the jobs in the new economy. But what jobs are available in the new economy? Increasingly, only service based jobs, or highly specialized jobs, like software engineer for example, that require years of training. So, making programming a major subject in school might be a solution. Problem is, not everyone can be a programmer. It's difficult to learn if you struggle with algebra, for example. And reality is, the majority of basic programming will be done either by programming farms in other countries or by AI. So what's the solution? Wish I knew.

  • @eddythehead9101

    @eddythehead9101

    7 жыл бұрын

    Chris Gardner they are too innerbred to learn anything new...Giving them coal to dig is probably better than food stamps...

  • @Huyvovo903

    @Huyvovo903

    7 жыл бұрын

    You can't just teach someone to "program" robots. It takes years of education and training and not to mention the $$$ the government has to spend and we both know how the people feel about the government spending their tax money.

  • @bikramjitbiswas9478
    @bikramjitbiswas94785 жыл бұрын

    loved how they curated this report- 'how it used to be', and this infinite hope which binds them together for the uture- o how it will be, !! wish yall the best

  • @Maxime_K-G
    @Maxime_K-G Жыл бұрын

    In Germany, they make sure that rural communities have better infrastructure than the big cities to compel people not to move away. People complain about it but I think at the end of the day it's better than the alternative of mass abandonment and housing shortages. A lot of countries seem to be facing this problem.

  • @TheOGvaultdweller
    @TheOGvaultdweller7 жыл бұрын

    great reporting, love sunday morning

  • @IftinAbshir
    @IftinAbshir5 жыл бұрын

    Wouldn't it be great if they went back now to see if anything has changed! I think that would be so interesting to see

  • @IconicProps
    @IconicProps7 жыл бұрын

    I am an arguably successful software developer and sculptor. I started my career fixing printers. Setting up pcs. Fixing networks. Configuring software. Fixing software. Writing software. Building corporate software and websites. I have had to re imagine myself for the past 25 years. Every few years. I did not even know I was smart when I started. What I have now more than anything else is problem solving skills. And the biggest issue I have with politics and our country is our lack of problem solving skills. A large portion of our country saw a problem, and heard a solution. The solution barely addresses the problem, is virtually impossible to accomplish, and most importantly, never going to happen. But just hearing a solution that fit their ends, without ever solving the problem logically to see if what was being said made sense, they jumped on board and are now about to be really disappointed. Unfortunately for me, I have a lot of friends that are again, like they did 8 years ago, come asking for help, and I am going to have to give them an emphatic 'Sorry, socialism is dead, figure it out yourself'.

  • @thetruepyromancer2928
    @thetruepyromancer29286 жыл бұрын

    The marching band playing Carry on My Wayward Son made my day.

  • @brianwilliams9462
    @brianwilliams94625 жыл бұрын

    Democrats CANNOT give up on these places if they have any conscience or even an inkling of class consciousness.

  • @jenniferneal9729
    @jenniferneal97296 жыл бұрын

    I have lived in West Virginia my whole life. I am very disappointed with some of the comments left by people. Some say we are ignorant, lazy, diluted, ect. I feel sorry for anyone who hasn't gotten a chance to experience what being a West Virginian really means. I am in my early forty's and I grew up watching my dad work steady, my mom building a home and my friends and I hanging out at the local skating rink on Saturdays. No one had to worry about locking their doors and neighbors were always there to help when you needed them and in most cases it's still that way. Our family ( witch included a dozen cousins and several aunts and uncles) would spend Sundays at my Grandma's eating a huge meal prepared from a fresh garden and we would play shadow tag well into the night. We spent the summer nights outside catching lighting bugs and the days were spent at the local swimming hole. I had an amazing childhood and I learned about hard work by examples set from my whole family. No, we may not have lived a lavish existence to some, but I guess it's how you measure life. The people in this video know what this place use to be and yes, it is sad that our kids aren't gonna get the childhood we had, because there are no jobs here anymore. We voted for Trump because we need change and unless you have been living under a rock or behind a wall in a gated community you should recognize this isn't the only place that has been forgotten. The country has record breaking homelessness, poverty, unemployment, drug epidemics, violence and the list goes on! Many have lost respect for God and country and the flag and what it stands for, it's the lives of the men and women who have fought for our freedoms and we have set by long enough watching pep kneeling for the national anthem and destroying what we all have worked so hard to build! No one here or anywhere else thinks of Trump as a savior, but we do think of him as NOT HILLARY!! If you would really do your homework about us, you will find that the one thing we have that some of you don't is RESPECT!!!! When the dems were elected year after year stifling our way of life we didn't have ( not my president marches) We didn't burn flags, tear down monuments, destroy property or commit acts of violence! We respected the process and our country! We waited until Nov and we voted! We still have hopes and dreams that this beautiful mountain state we call home with the record breaking rapids of our rivers, the majestic stature of our trees, the rolling fields of our farmlands and the amazing farmers, coal miners, carpenters, teachers, raft guides and small business owners will be the symbol it has always been ( GOD, COUNTRY and FAMILY). These are not the values of ignorant people, these are the values that built this country! This is what being a West Virginian means!

  • @b1k2q34

    @b1k2q34

    5 жыл бұрын

    Oh, boy.

  • @rl2769

    @rl2769

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well said. 👍👍

  • @jamesfaragoza5782

    @jamesfaragoza5782

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think you are beautiful

  • @bjxxx
    @bjxxx5 жыл бұрын

    It would be amazing if CBS had the balls to redo this story right now.

  • @EdugeBDroN
    @EdugeBDroN5 жыл бұрын

    I wish my mama was here but ain't gonna happen. A highschool graduate ain't gonna make 100 grand a year. They should have voted for the one with retraining plan, new 21st industry plan. Not the one lying to them about going back, no-one can go back, not a minute ago, not a month ago and heck not 60 years ago

  • @mychellevanschaick4321
    @mychellevanschaick43217 жыл бұрын

    they should go back and talk with those people again a year later... I would like to know if they still felt the same way?

  • @emmabach4510
    @emmabach45103 жыл бұрын

    This is a good piece!

  • @BeenSauce
    @BeenSauce7 жыл бұрын

    This is the ignorance of the simple life - not meant to take it offensively. Coal is continually becoming more expensive, even if regulations are stripped, it really just cannot compete with cheap natural gas and even cheaper solar power and wind. Automation is becoming more and more sophisticated, and it is only taking more jobs at an even faster rate. I've traveled through the rust belt, and it is sad seeing what America used to be. I get that. However, expecting these old industries to return won't happen. They voted for party that wishes for less government when government is the only entity capable of training a whole population for modern world markets - thereby, they are really just shooting their own foot.

  • @redarrowhead2

    @redarrowhead2

    7 жыл бұрын

    Kenny J Solar power and wind isn't cheap. You have no clue what you are saying. Government is not going to train millions of people. You're a complete fool.

  • @BeenSauce

    @BeenSauce

    7 жыл бұрын

    redarrowhead2 www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-06/wind-and-solar-are-crushing-fossil-fuels

  • @BeenSauce

    @BeenSauce

    7 жыл бұрын

    redarrowhead2 "Government is not going to train millions of people." FAFSA? Pell Grants?

  • @BeenSauce

    @BeenSauce

    7 жыл бұрын

    Politically Incorrect Read the article I posted earlier. Here's an article posted a year ago: qz.com/386261/solar-power-will-soon-be-as-cheap-as-coal/

  • @coolkids64

    @coolkids64

    7 жыл бұрын

    US has enough coal for 465 years overall minimum because we are the most coal rich country but it's more expensive and pollution is way higher that is why it got cut off it has been declining since the 50's we need manufacturing plants in these towns and agriculture and farming jobs to replace this it is way more productive not more coal jobs we are looking towards renewable energy in the future we have whole huge deserts , rivers and windy areas for that

  • @jayfkncool4258
    @jayfkncool42585 жыл бұрын

    Feel sorry for this fools ,he just lied to them and he's after closing all benefits, not to mention how he's ideas ant tax imports are affecting us business owners.

  • @DrCruel
    @DrCruel7 жыл бұрын

    Ted Koppel - where the hell have you been? We need you.

  • @tgatez3566
    @tgatez35665 жыл бұрын

    They need to do a followup on this.

  • @paxmanchris
    @paxmanchris7 жыл бұрын

    Member when we used coal to heat homes? "Ohh, I member"

  • @gsp49

    @gsp49

    6 жыл бұрын

    One small chunk of coal will replace 8 oak logs, and burn hotter than pine. best way to heat.

  • @ambessashield9360
    @ambessashield93607 жыл бұрын

    That women.. so refreshing.. she broke my stereotypical view of poor white folks in rural America.. the brotha also had a good point.. Hillary is really bad, but at least she talked about policy.. Trump was all about bullying and empty slogans. His supporters are waiting for a cruel awakening.

  • @eljono1
    @eljono17 жыл бұрын

    Member Coal burning? I member

  • @coolkids64
    @coolkids647 жыл бұрын

    Throw one of those new manufacturing plants he promised from his tax cuts in and call it a day

  • @Atombender
    @Atombender7 жыл бұрын

    What an intimate interview by JFK. Surrounded by miners and holding the mike.

  • @randalaltemus6691
    @randalaltemus66917 жыл бұрын

    Nice report, but it only showed one small facet of Trump Country in the USA. Many people in the inner cities also voted for Trump because they got tired of the endless promises from both political parties. Veterans in all 50 states voted for Trump because they have waited to long to get off the charity and welfare rolls and be treated with the dignity they deserve. Millions of voters with education and good sense realize that good quality education and affordable healthcare can only be provided by a strong economy.

  • @vidguy007
    @vidguy0076 жыл бұрын

    Imagine where we would be in the future if we went for renewables like Germany has decided to. Someday we will be buying stuff from them, instead of them buying it from us.

  • @arijah1253
    @arijah12536 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else thought of the novel “The Glass Castle” when the Walls lived in Welch?

  • @IJoeAceJRI
    @IJoeAceJRI7 жыл бұрын

    _there was no talk about the lower class_ my behind. Trump said that anyone that made ,= 28,000 wouldnt get taxed a dime

  • @alexysr6156
    @alexysr61566 жыл бұрын

    "Used to be"

  • @r.pres.4121

    @r.pres.4121

    4 жыл бұрын

    Alexrowdy Rousey That also accurately describes most older northern US cities like St Louis, Detroit, Toledo, Cleveland, Buffalo, Rochester, Newark, and Baltimore. They used to be proud and prosperous. Now they are all decayed, depressed, and destitute.

  • @tobyflockin7868
    @tobyflockin78683 жыл бұрын

    There is literally no other solution for this other than a mass redistribution of wealth

  • @Lord_Santa999
    @Lord_Santa9997 жыл бұрын

    Yes, a billionaire businessman from NEW YORK CITY is going to save you. It's sad that these people were this desperate.

  • @jayrod9002

    @jayrod9002

    7 жыл бұрын

    Desperate and trusting. Sad.

  • @pkrangersf3072

    @pkrangersf3072

    7 жыл бұрын

    They've been desperate for a long time and forgotten. Extremely sad situation they're in, but coal isn't the answer. They need to find something else.

  • @TescoValueMemes369

    @TescoValueMemes369

    7 жыл бұрын

    They can't find something else on their own. They need help from public or private entities.

  • @jayrod9002

    @jayrod9002

    7 жыл бұрын

    President Obama would have been able to accomplish more, the republicans made it their goal to vote down every good thing he proposed. Mitch even mentioned that his goal was to make sure President Obama was a one term president. Unfortunately, they contributed to his failure to do more for the American people.

  • @Lord_Santa999

    @Lord_Santa999

    7 жыл бұрын

    Lasna34 That's hilarious. Sounds like you've been living in a different reality from ours. The Republicans made it a point to be obstructionist, they even admitted as much. It's sick.

  • @diegosuarez1563
    @diegosuarez15634 жыл бұрын

    Hope they are still not holding their breath! then again?

  • @charliedawson2427
    @charliedawson24276 жыл бұрын

    I swear this place was in a movie I saw a while back.

  • @abcdefghijklmno7384
    @abcdefghijklmno73847 жыл бұрын

    McDowell County is in the same situation that many other commuities have been in for the last 40 years.

  • @robertol6577
    @robertol65776 жыл бұрын

    These are nice genuine, normal Americans who need real help !! They are desperate and as a result voted for the person they thought would actually help them unfortunately they voted for somebody who will do nothing for them, in fact his tax bill will take even more money from the little they have!! Once Trump and his cohorts in the Republican Party destroy social welfare these poor people will be the ones who suffer not his Banker friends!!

  • @harleyquinn5774

    @harleyquinn5774

    6 жыл бұрын

    Robert Lyons how about bring in a factory that builds various kinds of renewable energy machines/devices/products like solar panels and put together a training program to teach the ex coal miners how to assemble them? My one personal drawback on my idea is that I don’t know how much higher education is necessary or not for understanding solar panels enough to properly identify parts that work fine or have come out defective. As you can see, my understanding of solar panel manufacturing is limited.

  • @jamesburton1050
    @jamesburton10507 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Ted Koppel looks a little different than a few years ago!

  • @petrinajc
    @petrinajc6 жыл бұрын

    How is that working for you now? nearly 2 years later. does WV have those jobs back yet?

  • @BGTats144
    @BGTats1442 жыл бұрын

    Wow imagine what they think of tRump now

  • @shelliann1
    @shelliann16 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a follow-up for this story?

  • @isaacng123456789
    @isaacng1234567893 жыл бұрын

    Those mines will never open back up. Move to different parts of the country and learn a different trade.

  • @IJoeAceJRI
    @IJoeAceJRI7 жыл бұрын

    3:10 And of course the production of solar panels, windmills, and dams arent regulated...

  • @rawn4203
    @rawn42035 жыл бұрын

    Has trump brought back those coal jobs???

  • @fatherofthanos3286

    @fatherofthanos3286

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @LifeOfTheParty323
    @LifeOfTheParty3237 жыл бұрын

    I wish these people nothing but the best but Trump isn't going to save this dying industry. There is nothing he can do.

  • @gsp49

    @gsp49

    6 жыл бұрын

    But he did.

  • @wongsifu460
    @wongsifu4604 жыл бұрын

    I bet that the coal industry never came back in the county

  • @olivergarcia2304

    @olivergarcia2304

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yep, those low-Info voters got conned for their votes. What else would any educated humanoid expect from Bunker Boy?

  • @robertstewart302
    @robertstewart3027 жыл бұрын

    All that has to be done is update all coal burning to meet safe standards then coal can be back were it should be

  • @joshuacrommie6249
    @joshuacrommie62497 жыл бұрын

    How does that narrator have such a nice voice

  • @oshanelaird288
    @oshanelaird2887 жыл бұрын

    time for change. God bless Donald Trump

  • @breezecardenas3941
    @breezecardenas39417 жыл бұрын

    Of all the people Ted Koppel spoke to, the single mother sitting at the discussion table is the person who I think I feel for the most. I'm not from West Virginia or do I know anybody well enough from the region to fully understand what they're going through. However, I can say I do see many people just like her, with the same set of circumstances in the inner city. poverty is rampant. unemployment is high, education is dismal and it seems as though there is no hope in sight. She was absolutely right. These two people (Trump & Clinton) conducted themselves as immature and petty as candidates could possibly have. A shame that Americans felt as though, these were the two best possible candidates for the presidency. One of the beautiful things about our country is the fact we have choices. Can you imagine only being offered Coca Cola or Pepsi Cola when you go to a restaurant? only being able to buy Nike or Adidas shoes? only driving a Ford or Chevy??? pretty boring, right? if you like those, then by all means buy them. but if you like to have choices, and you'd like to not feel as though you only have two to choose from and aren't crazy about either one, then maybe it's time to look to alternatives. Only speaking for myself, that's what I've done. No longer will I vote for a Democrat or a Republican. As I did in the last election, and will continue to do so, it's all about third party candidates from here on out. I certainly don't see it as "throwing my vote away". I see it as an opportunity to move this country in a NEW direction, and most importantly, one less vote for the status quo!

  • @HylerMusic
    @HylerMusic6 жыл бұрын

    8:08 “Carry On Wayward Son”

  • @NateNate60
    @NateNate606 жыл бұрын

    I hope Trump "makes America great again". I'm a Democrat, but I'll give him a go at it. You don't want him to fail. We're all in this boat together and you'd better start patching it if holes appear. You don't want it to sink.

  • @davidvanbrunt4233
    @davidvanbrunt42332 жыл бұрын

    How's things going on WV these days ???

  • @Batsu2005
    @Batsu20057 жыл бұрын

    I think 7:47 sums up that town

  • @skiiimsk
    @skiiimsk7 жыл бұрын

    Is it weird I'm like getting a sense of natural selection?

  • @boragamerz9145
    @boragamerz91457 жыл бұрын

    I watch HELLary's interview with regards to coal and she offered no alternative for these miners. If you want to kill mines at least give the miners a source of income of some sort. Don't just take their job and starve or ignore them.

  • @Duricas
    @Duricas6 жыл бұрын

    They do realize that it would take a couple million years for coal to develop?

  • @jaeorumn4242
    @jaeorumn42427 жыл бұрын

    How is anyone supposed to "bring back coal" when the market isn't there for it? How many countries joined the G20 summit? How many have been going completely renewable and are GOING to be renewable in the next decade? Times change, you change with them or you get left behind.

  • @josifaleiro3943
    @josifaleiro39437 жыл бұрын

    Sad to see these people having so much hope in someone that will do nothing to help them.

  • @bostromberg4704

    @bostromberg4704

    6 жыл бұрын

    Josiane Faleiro I hope you are wrong but fear that you are right

  • @gsp49

    @gsp49

    6 жыл бұрын

    Ha, turns out you were wrong.

  • @lloydadkins885
    @lloydadkins8854 жыл бұрын

    It's a shame but natural gas is so cheap I don't see coal coming back for a very long time even coal from montana costs less

  • @donbrubaker641
    @donbrubaker6414 жыл бұрын

    Welcome to the Age of the New Republican Organized Crime Syndicate

  • @holokai21
    @holokai217 жыл бұрын

    Unreal!!!! Most of the coal states are south of Germany.Why has your governments not funded programs for renewable energy.That is where the future lies.There are more jobs in the renewable energy,than coal today.Local schools should be training workers for all the work that renewables offer.Your local governments are failing you out of many good paying jobs.

  • @omarrohoman3726
    @omarrohoman37267 жыл бұрын

    hold on guys the coal is coming

  • @gregorysvitavsky6505
    @gregorysvitavsky65055 жыл бұрын

    Hows life over there nowadays?

  • @senojelyk
    @senojelyk7 жыл бұрын

    This story is illustrative of the fix small towns built on a single industry are in once that industry is gone. Everybody who could leave has left. Welfare and Social Security sustain those who remain, either directly or through virtuous cycles of spending. This town is like a suffering animal that needs to be put down. We’re willing to buy out natural disaster victims, but somehow don’t see the tortuous slow destruction of a small town in the same way.

  • @bitchbaby69
    @bitchbaby696 жыл бұрын

    companies and people moved on from coal. why is this so difficult for people to understand? coal is a thing in the past, as many other products. time for these people to find different job. healtier and safer job for them too

  • @bikramjitbiswas9478
    @bikramjitbiswas94783 жыл бұрын

    i wonder how are they doing now with the pandemic n' all- hope they are well

  • @jaysunsandnorcal5555
    @jaysunsandnorcal55557 жыл бұрын

    Trump should at least send them some clean energy jobs if he can't renew the coal industry there. The lady with kids is smart. Come live here, CA has jobs and would love you!! We have the same issues here... poverty isn't looked at enough. We're the full time minimum wage worker who runs this country, yet we're divided. The low income base of America should rise against gov. together, not separated by 2 stupid politicians that are both so rich they don't know what it's like to live like us. They don't care enough about us. We feed them, and keep them rich. Bottom line. No matter who you are.

  • @nangephriam1211

    @nangephriam1211

    5 жыл бұрын

    David ring

  • @SG-id2fd
    @SG-id2fd3 жыл бұрын

    you took down my post because you dont want any one to know the truth

  • @mikeigotravel9034
    @mikeigotravel90346 жыл бұрын

    What does a parade do for the economy of that small town?

  • @gsp49

    @gsp49

    6 жыл бұрын

    Draws every body into the downtown merchants.

  • @kapilchhabria1727
    @kapilchhabria17274 жыл бұрын

    FYI, that poor single mother will now have to meet mandatory employment requirements before she can receive any subsidized WIC or SNAP benefits which probably are critical for her family. Once her kids are beyond 12 months of age, the employment requirements would be applicable. She must now seek employment, how so ever trivial, find childcare which will likely eat into her income, and will become eligible for lower benefits due to increased household income. Alternately, she could have voted for Hillary, retained her benefits and helped raise three children who could go on to be high functioning members of society. Which they may still, but the path ahead is now a lot more treacherous.