Whether it is The Shadows or The Ventures doesn't matter to me . Both the groups gave me so much joy when I was growing up. I get a lump in my throat listening to both of them.

@bobsaturday4273

5 жыл бұрын

one of the few comments here based in reality and respect for artists , this sick pissing contest is rotten to the core , it demeans the greatness of art and these great musicians . you're not american or british are you ?

@crlguitar1

4 жыл бұрын

I must agree that some of the first guitar instrumentals I learned were by the Ventures, 'Walk Don't Run' and The Shadows too....So the comparison in THIS instance is 'apples and oranges' to me.

@USCG.Brennan

4 жыл бұрын

@@bobsaturday4273 EXACTLY what I was thinking.....he's either a "Limey" or a "Torry" for sure. Very slanted video. Can't beat this by the Ventures..... kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZZ_qZKpZrfcabQ.html

@bobsaturday4273

4 жыл бұрын

@@USCG.Brennan actually you're right , no , you can't beat em , they consistantly had the right tunes at the right times . they reflectefd the times perfectly , as the truly great musicians do . and they rolled with the times comin up with great new stuff over the years , not just regrinding their past glories . Hawaii 5-0 proved their real metal as a group who could really rock an orchestra piece

@bobsaturday4273

4 жыл бұрын

@@USCG.Brennan but when they did regrind a tune they did it with style : kzread.info/dash/bejne/k4WHssuvkrrdpbw.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/Z36fytWYYamok6g.html

Los Ventures son muy buenos pero "Apache" es un clásico de The Shadows y nadie más la interpreta tan magistralmente como ellos.

Both stiles are unique. They play in their own likes. The two bands are fantastic, I bow before them 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

I love them both, but Hank Marvin's tone is other- worldly!

I think the Ventures version is styled more after Jorgen Ingman's version, the Danish guitarist who had a hit with it in the USA. The song was written by Jerry Lordan and offered to British guitarist Bert Weedon, who recorded it on an album. The Shadows recorded it in 1960 and had a massive worldwide hit with it, except for America. The Shadows never made it in the USA because of the Ingman version. Pity, because they had so many more hits after Apache that were also written by Jerry Lordan, but America missed out on those songs. The US was also last getting the Beatles, they didn't make it over here until 1964 with "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" while they had become superstars worldwide starting in England in 1962 with "Love Me Do". Anyway, The Shadows are my favorite but I do also really like the Ventures, especially their early songs featuring Bob Bogle on lead guitar. I had the opportunity to meet him when my band was playing in Lake Tahoe, NV back in 1973 - he came to see our show and we played a medley of their tunes for him - "Walk, Don't Run" "Perfidia" and "Blue Moon" - he was a really nice guy. I also met former Shadows bassist John Rostill , when he was playing with Tom Jones at the Sahara Tahoe in 1973 - he was also a very nice guy, sad that he was electrocuted in his studio later that year, RIP - Also Bob Bogle passed in 2009, RIP

@fredbentley4944

3 жыл бұрын

You are right about the original recording by Jorgen Ingman. The Ventures version is much closer to the original. If both groups played a concert on the same stage at the same time, the Venture's guitar work is more intricate and more advanced!

Probably one of the. Ventures last performances. As to who was the best, both were recorded under different circumstances in different acoustic environments with different sound engineers. The only way to of compared them honestly would have been to put them on the same stage. In reality both bands held the other in high esteem and both have earned the respect for their contributions to the music industry

@bobsaturday4273

5 жыл бұрын

and all involved would be appalled at such trivial superfluous comparisons

@USCG.Brennan

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly.....I'm thinking the author of this video "comparison" is just another Brit with an ax to grind....nothing more.

@charleswesley9907

3 жыл бұрын

I think Noke lost some of his hearing . He didnt try to do much with his tone . His guitar didnt have a good tone either and absolutely no added effects . Bob Bogle always was good at setting a good tone with good effects .

I love the Ventures, grew up with their music... however, The Shadows tear this up!

I admired both ventures and shadows they are both legend.❤💋

Los shadows tocan maravilloso!!!! Hermoso!!!! .lindoooo...❤❤❤❤ los ventures son Maestros!! Magnificos!!! Maravillosos!!! Ambos tienen un talento de la musica maravilloso....la guitarra primera de los shadows...tiene mucha cústica....pero realmente maravillosoooooo...estoy emocionada...😭😢 que hermosa música....los amo!!! Pero....antiguedad es clase..... ventures ventures y todos los grupos q toquen sus canciones gracias!!!!!!❤💋❤💋❤💋❤👏👏👏👏👏👏

When I play it, The Shadows arrangement is simple and easy. Arranging The Ventures is difficult. But, in terms of sound, the Shadows are more preferred.

Not a fair comparison Nokie is a surf rock specialist and his notes and arrangements favour surf rock.Hank is playing pop rock style.Both are beautifully played.

@profd65

4 жыл бұрын

The idiot who uploaded this was clearly trying to make the Ventures look bad. I'm from the Tacoma WA area--where the Ventures are from--and I saw the Ventures play a festival about the time when this video was shot, and they looked old and broken down--they were clearly not at their best.

I grew up listening to the Ventures in the very early 1960’s. My brother played their music Religiously. He even bought a brand new Gretch Solid Body Chet Atkins Electric Guitar it’s one of the few good memories I have of him. RIP Brother

I love the Shadows playing Apache and a host of other songs and live, they were always immaculate. The problem with the Ventures seems to be that they are not always up to scratch and there are some bad vids out on youtube although some superior concerts are starting to appear. However it is unfair to compare Hank Marvin and Nokie Edwards as guitarists. I have heard both do brilliant work and would be like saying who is the best painter out of Dali and Picasso. The problem for Nokie is that the Shadows recorded Apache years earlier and made it their own. Nokie should probably stuck closer to the original work but for whatever reason decided to change the arrangement so fundamentally that it was like trying to re-invent the wheel. This has resulted in an inferior version. It is an unfair exercise to judge Nokie and the Ventures on this song. A fairer competition might be to go like for like. Their best vs the Shadows best. And the winner is..... the audience.

They are both good. Nokie and Hank do a wonderful job. Each is a bit different. Hank uses his signature echo and Nokie has more of a country feel. I am just glad do recorded the songs with the Ventures and the Shadows.

Two very different quality recordings.... but whoever arranged the Ventures cover should be sent back to kindergarten.... The Shadows version is the one I grew up with - and as far as I can remember, this version and the 60’s version are identical - except the modern sound quality is stunning!

This video is lots of fun and I really like both versions. The Ventures (in my humble opinion) made better choices of instruments and sound systems, allowing them to add more variety and interest to the musical phrases. Their version is very subtle. The Stratocaster is a huge sound guitar more suitable for Jimi Hendrix and Dick Dale. But you can see that the audiences for both bands were having a great time.

The Shadows are utter perfectionists and nail every tune they play 💯🎸🎸🎸

It depends on what you mean by the original Ventures. They started out as a duo with Don Wilson and Bob Bogle called The Versatones but by the time they recorded Nokie had been added as a bass player. He soon took over most of the lead guitar duties as he was much more proficient than either Bob or Don, a fact most of us weren't aware of till the mid-60s. That's Bob playing the lead on "Walk, Don't Run" and many other early songs though.

Before I even watched this I knew The Shadows had this in the bag! Plus they’ve got the moves and showmanship to back them up!!! The Ventures look like they’ve just been told off by the head master!

I love both the Ventures and the Shadows. The Ventures Pipeline with Peter Frampton and Wipeout with Max Weinberg show them at their best. I love Hank Marvin's tone. He uses a lot of reverb which creates a dreamy tone. We live in an age where every performance by a band has the possibility of ending up on a social media site. I played Pipeline at the Prince Edward Island Guitar Festival and it got a great reaction. I had a young kid who's won several talent shows back me up on rhythm guitar.

The Ventures did play some originals like "Journey to the Stars", "Driving Guitars", Kyoto No Koi", "2000 Pound Bee", "Surf Rider", "Mariner No. 4", "Go-Go Dancer" & others

The Ventures & The Shadows or The Shadows & The Ventues!!! Both are great bands. Greetings from Mexico City. Thanks for your videos.

@joegomes8769

5 жыл бұрын

Joaquín Gutiérrez Rosales s

@bobsaturday4273

5 жыл бұрын

very nice outlook , unlike creepy americans who want war in everything

The book "Walk Don't Run--the Story of the Ventures" by Del Halterman. Obtainable online through Ventures fan club. At end has "studio musician session notes" listing musicians present, which studio, which cut, notes etc. I believe the "wrecking crew" in Los Angeles has played on many Ventures recordings.

Tanto Hank Marvin como The Ventures son fantásticos, distintas versiones pero excelente ambas .

Taking a perfect sound recording of one band at their best & putting up against less perfectly recorded version from another band on their very last legs proves nothing. They were both excellent bands in their heydays. I love them both.

@fincaman2

4 жыл бұрын

Proves that The Shadows are still playing in packed venues to thousands and The Ventures in small venues

The Shadows version is more aggressive. Having a driving rhythm guitar helps a lot. It's simpler but more fun to listen to. I vote Shadows.

Without hesitation, The Shadows!

Personal taste: Shadow sound always provides an orchestral, wide spacious and echo feeling that no one can genuinely imitate.

The Shadows version is far better with the held notes rather Nokie's sliding. The sound system doesn't make the difference, the playing does.

@xmandlt

4 жыл бұрын

Utter bullshit. The Shadows were awash in reverb. The Ventures sounded like they didn't give a shit about trying to impress.

@profd65

4 жыл бұрын

@@xmandlt I'm from the Tacoma WA area--where the Ventures are from--and I saw them play an outside show around ten years ago, and the band looked like guys from an old folks home (except for the drummer, who is the son of a former member). It was stupid of the video uploader to compare the two bands as they are in extreme old age--show what they were doing fifty years ago.

@brucediamond4703

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly ! One can have a preference , Fine . But Finding one ‘better’ than the other is simply ridiculous . Both are great in very different ways . If you can’t tell the difference in the circumstance of these two shows , I wonder how much you could understand about music in general .

No Comparison - The Shadows - Hank Marvin. The Best !!!

@antoniociampo7698

5 жыл бұрын

Grande ben detto

@klystron44

4 жыл бұрын

I agree.

Congratulations!!!! You've done the tune 'APACHE; beautifully, ENJOYED.

What can I say? Individual interpretations of pure genius.

Caravan by Nokie Edwards on an album "Bobby Vee Meets the Ventures " (circa 1961-2 by Liberty Records?) shows his talent. Its one of two solo instrumentals on the record. He plays a Fender through a Fender amp. Every note is clear. it's a very great recording. Guitarist appreciate it. Alabama Jubilee and I Got a Woman showcase his ability and I believe he plays all three of these tunes as encores to show his skill.

Loved the Ventures walk don’t run but loved everything by the Shadows Hank the main man

Try the Ventures in Japan 1965 . They are a well oiled machine.

When I was a security guard I used to shout at the kids Hey walk don't Run!...was an instrumental hit for the ventures who though somewhat stylistically similar to the shadows never enjoyed their success over here though would become huge in japan

Things may have been different if The Shadows manager had got their version of Apache out in the USA first then that would have been the hit that everyone followed. I know both Nokie and Hank and both are brilliant guitarists but it was Hank's version of Apache that inspired me to play the electric guitar.

@jcpjean-claude4446

6 жыл бұрын

me too !!!the Ventures are a very great instrumental group but the sound of the Shadows is the top of the top!

Shadows win hands down on this showing. Ventures' effort sounds like the sort of music you have to listen to in lifts and elevators.

@johnnyrosenberg9522

9 жыл бұрын

Blues fan Wins? Do you think it's some kind of competition? It's just music, nothing more.

@bluesfan582

9 жыл бұрын

Johnny Rosenberg Whenever you have two people performing the same thing, or something very similar, they are bound to be compared. I don't know why you find that such a difficult concept to grasp. You may not want to call it competition, but a comparison is bound to be made in a situation like this; indeed the entire presentation invites it, and if you cannot see that then you must be the only person on You Tube who can't.

@johnnyrosenberg9522

9 жыл бұрын

Blues fan I just can't see why anyone would care. Just listen to the version that you prefer and don't bother other people with it. How hard can it be?

@bluesfan582

9 жыл бұрын

Johnny Rosenberg And you know which version you prefer...how? By only listening to one version? You've out-argued yourself here, because by admitting that a person can prefer one version, you've just destroyed your previous argument that it's all just music. Even someone who has a preference has made a comparison and a judgement. One version is preferred, or "wins", to use my original word. Thank you.

@johnnyrosenberg9522

9 жыл бұрын

Blues fan I have heard quite a few versions, but yes, maybe I prefer one of them over the others (actually I prefer Shadows' version, but I don't like Apache very much anyway, I've just heard it and played it too many times - my own version is by the way something like a hybrid between the two versions, but I rarely play it at all these days), but what I was trying to say (but obviously failed, maybe because my native language is not English) was not that you only should listen to one version and then prefer that one. I was more trying to say that instead of arguing about what version is, whatever it is, better, worse, heavier, greener, just listen to what you want to listen to. If someone listens to something else, it's their problem. Or luck. People like different things, why arguing about it?

the ventures the shadows both are simply great i love them

Great grand wonderful beautiful ...i love both shadows and ventures..wow..wow...wow.

I remember hearing this group as a kid of 6 yrs old, and Ioved them then, and still do now

A from what I've read, The Ventures didn't like how record labels would turn out albums with "The Ventures" label slapped on them but on which The Ventures weren't playing but rather all session musicians

Both the Groups are superb in displaying their skill.

No question that the Shadows own the Ventures here.

I'd heard only the Ventures growing up, and they were incredible, but the Shadows are leagues ahead in this comparison, without a doubt. And I have to wonder if their other songs outdid anything by the Ventures. So many guitarists truly idolize Hank Marvin. Of course, both groups are pretty old now, so it's not really fair to compare them at that stage since the Ventures' guitarist isn't at his best. Hank Marvin still plays beautifully, though. I wish the comparison played the 1960's versions.

Getting ready to go out (The Shadows)...2am drinking in a barroom (The Ventures)...= The Ventures for me

Well, Shadows are playing their own version, The Ventures are playing Jørgen Ingmann's version. So it would probably be more correct to compare Jørgen Ingmann with The Shadows in this case. When I want to listen to The Ventures, ”Apache” is certainly not the first title that comes to my mind…

@fincaman2

8 жыл бұрын

+Johnny Rosenberg Hello Johnny you have made some valid comments on my video but you are probably not aware that Jorgen Ingmann must have copied The Shadows version in the first place because Hank Marvin wrote the intro that is used on these recordings. If you listen to Bert Weedon's version which was recorded but not released before The Shadows Version it does not have Hank's intro

@johnnyrosenberg9522

8 жыл бұрын

+fincaman2 Well, you are right, I didn't know that Hank did his own intro. I've never heard Jerry Lordan playing the song. Maybe even Jørgen Ingmann didn't know that? I don't know. Anyway, they are still two very different versions while The Ventures' version sounds too much like Ingmann's version so be considered ”a third version”, at least in my opinion. Even if Ingmann copied the intro (even though he played it one octave higher), he surely had a quite different approach for the rest of the song. I don't think I've heard Bert Weedon's version, I guess mostly because I don't like his style much (someone gave me a Bert Weedon CD many years ago and I listened to it once, but I didn't like it). I know, that's only a matter of taste and nothing more. Fortunately, everybody doesn't have to like the same type of music… :P

@bobsaturday4273

5 жыл бұрын

well stated , all true , very diplomatic renunciation of this sick uncalled for pissing contest

I play the Shadows version with a couple Ventures parts tossed in so I don't get bored...so, the hybrid version!

I don' think anyone here gets it. It's not a comparison to see who is better or worse. Just a comparison of two different styles. Neither is better, neither is worse, just different and anyone who has ever laid a finger on a fret and picked a string will tell you that Nokie and Hank are two of the best that have ever played and both are equally amazing!!

Yeah, I'm glad we have both of them.

No comparison. The Shadows were great in every respect.

Hank Marvin & The Shadows clearly out did the Ventures cover of this, in this instance. When growing up in the SF Bay Area the version that got all the airplay was Jorgen Ingram's version of 'Apache'. I've always preferred THAT version of the song, probably because it was the one I heard most often. The version that I play is a combination of both versions.

For comparison we need to take the best interpretations from both... Here ventures has underperformed... And the comparison itself may not be for who is better but for how a same tune can be played in two different styles

@fincaman2

4 жыл бұрын

These are the best interpretations I can find, if you can find better let me know and I'll do another video

I would be interested to know what information you have about session musicians playing on Ventures recordings

The recording quality of the Shadows clip was better. Don't let that adfect your judgement though. The Ventures add beautiful touches throughout that make it so much better.

Comparison? What comparison? The Shadows are the clear winners.

@user-wm8hv1lq4c

6 жыл бұрын

When I play it, The Shadows arrangement is simple and easy. Arranging The Ventures is difficult. But, in terms of sound, the Shadows are more preferred.

@bobsaturday4273

5 жыл бұрын

winners of what ? the booby prize from superficial dimwits like you ?

@jimdonnaalexander8448

Жыл бұрын

I grew up with the ventures as far as I'm concerned they are absolute magic

Can you please post what in your opinion is Nokies best performance, live or record...?

This is all a matter of taste. No one is wrong because they dont share the same taste as another person. The Ventures are my favorite instrumental band, but for my taste, the Shadows really knocked this one outa the park!!!

Sound system, engineering and players aside, to me this a Stratocaster tune.

Love them, them BOTH....

Like Bruce´s haircut and the bass-line

Go to 2004 Jan Bob Bogle Medley and you'll get the Ventures with a superb sound that needs to be heard.

Can I have the video of the ventures playing this version of Apache?

I'm a HUGE Ventures fan, and I gotta say that The Shadows smoked them on this one

@bukkufalking7476

5 жыл бұрын

I grew,up with the Ventures, but the Shadows sounded better..Better am plifiers maybe..

@bobsaturday4273

5 жыл бұрын

who says music is a competition ? you somekinda record industry leach ?

@xmandlt

4 жыл бұрын

@@bukkufalking7476 - it was reverb. The Ventures had little if any. The Shadows were all reverb.

@profd65

4 жыл бұрын

Yea, kind of like a 72 year old boxer smoking a 74 year old boxer--doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot. We know what the two bands sounded like in their primes. Fuck the Shadows.

@fincaman2

4 жыл бұрын

@@profd65 I honestly have never heard The Ventures with their normal line up playing live sound good whereas The Shadows always sound good

I like the Ventures for their many productions. However, I liked the Shadow's performance of Apache.

I like both The Shadows and The Ventures. Have had the pleasure to meet The Ventures. Interesting how both video's by the Ventures on here though are both low quality. Especially the Ghost Riders audience recording. If you really want to compare equally, go the Ventures website and purchase one of their professionally shot concerts. I have quite a few. Everybody has a preference, I'm prone to the Ventures, but also really like the Shadows, but to see people swearing back and forth at each other, just shows how ignorant some people really are. I'd love to see them both.

@seanatteberry2274

10 жыл бұрын

I checked, and I have and listened to the DVD of The Ventures playing Apache, and for some reason the sound on youtube here seems a lot thinner than on the actual DVD, almost like it's been doctored with. Oh well, don't know what happened here. Now I have to find me a copy of The Shadows DVD, and hopefully CD of this concert.

@fincaman2

8 жыл бұрын

+Sean Atteberry I did not doctor anything The Shadows always sound great whether live or recorded

@alecfed

6 жыл бұрын

Also, Nokie's around 80 years old here. How old is Hank? I learned to play guitar with The Ventures, saw them 4 years ago, Nokie was 82 then, and still amazing.

@modeltrainstipsandtutorials

5 жыл бұрын

Ventures have always sounded thin and tinny compared to the rich sounds of The Shadows right back to the original 60's recordings. Being 71 I have lived with both bands from their earliest days to the present and The Shadows have always outshone The Ventures in tone and style.

@fincaman2

5 жыл бұрын

@@alecfed Hank was about 4 years younger on this video

I think Shadows is the best instrumental group on guitar in the music history period, I love Ventures , Les Fantomes , and all others and appreciate for their work and giving taste of different music style ....

Love both groups, but Hank is in a class by himself, and has been since he arrived on the scene before any famous rock electric guitarists existed.

The Ventures sound like they are still learning it !

@johnstirling9358

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. Their playing is mechanical, has no feeling and reminds me of when me and my friends first started to learn guitar. Thank God we progressed well beyond that level. Hank Marvin is a superb jazz guitarist aside from the standard Shadows numbers he plays. Bruce Welch is a first class rythm guitarist and excellent song writer and arranger. Brian Bennet is a classy all round drummer and an award winning composer, arranger and multi talented musician. As individuals and as a combo, The Shadows are a polished and talented band. No offence to the Ventures but they are simple mediocre at best. I have yet to meet a single guitarist of world repute who rates the ventures as an infuence, however, regading Hank Marvin and The Shadows, Tony Iommi from Black Sabbath, Brian May from Queen, Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Peter Frampton, Mark Knophler, among many, all rate Hank and The Shadows as their early inspiration. Just listen to Hank Marvins Gypsy Jazz Quartet and it becomes absolutely clear who is the better guitarist, both technical and musically. The Shadows be it past or present are simply iconic, tight, polished and have charisma on stage. Then you have their association with Cliff Richard, the British rock and roll singer, and the number of hit pop songs they wrote for him. The Shadows, its no contest. Sorry if this offends Ventures fans but this is my opinion.

Well I really enjoyed the comparison. I play both Ventures, and the Shadows on guitar. The Ventures are huge here in Canada, and even bigger in Japan. Last 10 years or so I have preferred playing the Shadows much more. There are many similar songs that you could compare such as Perfida, just to name one, but having said that I once again perfer the Shadows version. Thanks for the posting, and cheers from Vancouver BC

They are forever young

I can honestly say that I have never heard Don Wilson make a mistake while playing rhythm. Well...I might think of one question I would like to ask him. On an early "Sleepwalk" I think I hear the rhythm playing an F major chord instead of the F minor like Santo and Johnny do it. No really, he's good. He adds to the sound that fills a lot. Nokie when he plays bass adds a lot to the early Venture's sound as well.

@fincaman2 As explained above, I base my opinion of both bands from listening to their albums and watching their videos not from one song. Unlike the Ventures, Apache is one of the few uptempo songs played by the Shadows.

Hank is the man!!

@robertryanforever

8 жыл бұрын

+Mikey Hall You´re right !!!

@brynhaynes7619

4 жыл бұрын

I could listen to Hank and The Shadows all day long.

tank you mister b marvin the very best pour ce morceau a la guitare inoubliable qui est apache dominique

I love both bands but I think The Shadows kept with their original sound more consistently than The Ventures. One reason is The Ventures kept on changing guitars over the years and The Shadows didn't. Hank Marvin stuck to Fender Strats and an occassional Burns guitar. Also Hank Marvin's playing remained constant even into old age. The Shadows version sounds more mysterious or spy music like.

Just as a last note regarding the Ventures I saw a US band in Germany who were playing guitars with the Ventures label on them as though the band was somehow involved in the manufacture of them. Any information on this? Can't remember the name of the band but they had a 'souped up' 60's instrumental sound - this was about 10 years ago.

I have heard the Ventures do "Apache" many times. This is by far the most sedate version I've heard. Nice. But very different from their usual arrangement...

The Issues over here are not of live performance of the musicians but of sound recording /engineering. Things can also be manipulated. In fact, considering the last part of this video edit, I think the presenter of this clip is bias. Thus, no judgement can be passed on the performance of the artists from both the groups.

@fincaman2

5 жыл бұрын

Both videos are straight from utube and are not changed in any way

These are both different versions : a sophisticate slower and a more dynamic one; Both are the world 's best instrumental groups.

There has never been a bigger fan of Nokie's than I am. However, for about the last ten years of Nokie's career, he basically was phoning it in at concerts. Granted, his health was not the best but his heart just was not into it any more. Regardless, in his prime, Nokie was top drawer!

Brilliant video!!!!

From what is presented here, the Shadows is a better sounding recording to my ears. But, the comparison is a little unfair because I've been listening to The Shadows Apache since 1960 and this is the first time I have heard The Ventures. All that must cloud any objectivity.

I wouldn't use this video of the ventures to compare them to the shadows. The guys in the ventures in the video are past their prime, take a sample from the live in japan '65. That show is amazing.

✕：The Ventures 50th Anniversary ○：The Ventures 45th Anniversary

Different interpretation different acoustic, different circumstances

My first favorite is The Shadows. I like the ventures.

La versión de The Shadows es mejor, por lejos, por mayor profundidad de volumen del sonido. Pero, nunca he escuchado una rendición de Walk don´t Run de The Shadows.

@TheShadows50

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/i6Z4uqWRYdjWj9o.html

@ianthomsonnewman4048

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheShadows50 Thanks. I had not heard that track before.

@TheShadows50

2 жыл бұрын

@@ianthomsonnewman4048 De nada. Es una buena versión. Fue grabada en el LP "Tasty" de 1977. Saludos.

I would give anythings to be in the Shadows concerts....!

Los Venturosos geniales, leyenda dentro de la música.

The Shadows very easily win this comparison. I like The Ventures too.....but....no group can beat The Shadows ..... they are the very best guitar instrumental group in history. The Shadows nailed playing Apache...Hank Marvin is just superb. To be fair...The Ventures here were not their best...they usually are much better performers ..... a good possibility is their age...this was one of their last performance of Apache.

I like the Shadows best. It they would add the "string scratching" it would be perfect. I like the harder rock version of the Shadows. Both are great!

Pas de commantaire , 2 grands groupes de guitares ,,,, differents ,,, j adore .....

Understood. I'll grant you Hank Marvin and Shadows and Cliff Richards were simply not heard this side of the pond in 50's and early 60's. The Tornadoes and Telstar helped reverse the trend. The Beatles opened the flood gates. The Shadow's "Apache", and later Atlantis and Wonderful Land (all written by Jerry Lordan) as done by the Shadows stand on their own. (My own private difficulty with the Ventures is whether Nokie Edwards is considered part of the original Ventures?).

Do I have to bring my own version?

I love the Shadows but No Comparison - The Ventures The Best !!! 💕🎸

la mélodie toujours présente !!!

Shadows use lots of echo & reverb so to get a true comparison it would have to be the same time period & no sound shaping of the guitars.

Technicaly, the Shads recording is superb. What happened with Japanese technicians?

I'd love to see/hear Marc Knopfler play surf music. Not sure if he has but man that would be amazing. I'd love to hear him play Apache too. I seem to recall him and Hank playing together at a show.