Today we're investigating the cryptic origins of the Intellivision Amico!! Strap yourself in, it's a wild ride and there's an old friend we're going to see along the way!
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@jennyholiday882 жыл бұрын
It's wild that Tommy Talerico is basically the Butch Hartman of gaming
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
2 жыл бұрын
They even look alike a little bit
@jennyholiday88
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParanoidThalyyMVS OK SO IT'S NOT JUST ME WHO THOUGHT THAT
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
2 жыл бұрын
@@jennyholiday88 I don't know if my glasses are foggy or something but, I swear I got their faces confused more than one time XD
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
You know, the similarities between him and Hartman go even further. That could be part of another episode though…
@jennyholiday88
2 жыл бұрын
Oaxis for Amico confirmed
@iconredesign2 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how fast I clicked when the notification came in. Welcome back once again!
@Black_Revue
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just as Surprised as You are
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol, thanks!! Good to see you again, bro
@Lethaltail
2 жыл бұрын
Aaaand there’s icon!
@PointsofData Жыл бұрын
Watching this after hbomberman's deep dive into Tommy Tallarico's rabbit hole of lies is...interesting lmfao
@poble
Ай бұрын
his mother is very proud
@balefirex24 Жыл бұрын
Idk if you knew this, but another youtuber named hbomberguy made a video on Tommy and his many many MANY lies. After watching that video and then coming back here, both compliment each other perfectly. Learning more about the Amico and then learning of the batshit chaos of Tommy's other lies. You're right at the end of your video. The story definitely doesn't end with the Amico
@kirbycarr22 жыл бұрын
SD&R - the only channel that does a documentary, roast, and exposing evidence all in one video. Glad you're back!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really good description! I need to add it to my channel info
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro _Roast, Toast, and Exposé._ I know that last one doesn't rhyme remotely unless you Coach Z the behoozits out of it.
@jesuszamora69492 жыл бұрын
The thing is, while Amico was floundering, the Evercade has proven the idea of a niche console with cartridge based games collections can work. The handheld has proven pretty popular with said niche, and the home version, the Evercade VS, is coming out on the 25th in the US. The difference is that they mostly sell actual retro games. While there are a few indie collections (mostly by companies that make new games for retro platforms, like Mega Cat or Piko), the majority of content is re-releases of retro titles in collections per cartridge. There's even an Intellivision collection, hey hey!
@ChristopherSobieniak2 жыл бұрын
Now I feel sorry for Keith Robinson not being around to stop this madness. :-(
@MikeFranklin69
Жыл бұрын
Keith is ROLLING in his grave.
@ccricers
Жыл бұрын
I wish we could hear Keith's side of the story about how the Intellivision company deal came to be. It's highly possible that Tommy made up the story about Keith's last wish to make a completely new console as a publicity stunt.
@Spiredmg2 жыл бұрын
I think their whole '10 Commandments of Game Design' is a telling reason of why they keep Doug TenNapel.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this right here. I’m considering a follow up to go over the weird religious Amico stuff.
@baroncalamityplus
2 жыл бұрын
Now that I know about the origins, Thats creepy.
@chrissawyer1484
2 жыл бұрын
@Lassi Kinnunen (WILL CHANGE ACCOUNT IN 2 DAYS) I remember that it was told to people along the lines of "Doug got to make graphic novels of EWJ while the rest of the crew worked on the game and got residuals from sales." I didn't know about the Tommy connection.
@ccricers
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently they are now breaking some of the commandments since CFO Nick Richards said Intellivision will consider making more mobile game ports and paid DLC. And the new CEO that replaced Tommy says games could go up to $20 in price.
@dacid9018
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro please do
@KahlessTheUnforgettable2 жыл бұрын
Damn! And I had pre-ordered the Amico to tide me over until my Smach Z arrives! 🤬
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can emulate the Smach Z on the Steam Deck lol
@KahlessTheUnforgettable
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro One can dream! Ah well; I suppose The Intellivision®️ Amico™️ is really the friends we made along the way 🧎🏻♂️
@TeatimesB2 жыл бұрын
Beyonce's refrigerator will be out before the Amico.
@peanutbutterjeff53642 жыл бұрын
Nowadays, it seems like an interesting idea (to me) to have a small collection of recent things that became money pits. Almost like hunting trophies I guess. On one wall, an Amico game. On another, a graded Spider-Man 2600 I got after the inevitable graded games crash for the sum of $1. And the crown jewel of the collection? A framed screenshot of a screenshot of a screenshot of an NFT.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I'll take a screenshot of your screenshot of a a screenshot of an NFT and wear it in an locket.
@alaeriia01
Жыл бұрын
I keep meaning to pick up an Atari VCS whenever Microcenter has them.
@cassia33632 жыл бұрын
Seeing Doug TenNapel going fucking nuts is just sad... the Neverhood was such a big part of my childhood and I still love it. Just wish it wasn't tied to such an asshat. Great vid, SDR! Good to have you back :)
@cassia3363
2 жыл бұрын
I also just learned that apparently the guy who did the soundtrack to The Neverhood does mostly Christian music. It makes sense now. It is kinda surreal how a game that was such a creative spin on religion/creation myths (with some fascinating writing -- I have actually read the entire Hall of Records, because I have no life whatsofuckingever) was thought up by a radical nutcase. Such a shame.
@NONOOBZ4EVR2 жыл бұрын
Bro NO WAY i just started binging all your kickstarter failure videos, I was wondering where you went or which kickstarter campaign hired a hitman on you, but glad to see you're back!!!
@volvo09
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget... The autoblow was a success!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
The PGS mafia is gonna have to try harder than that!!
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro just be careful. Now that you’re a gaming racist, more people will be gunning for you.
@aaronmarko2 жыл бұрын
Ah looks like they finally let you use the computer in Attica. I'm surprised they have computers that can edit video in prison but hey, maybe this is part of some kind of work release program for felons. Either way, it's great to see you back, buddy!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
A few more months and I'm back on the streets!! Lol, thanks buddy! It's good to be back
@dimsumboy22
2 жыл бұрын
HES BACK
@AsukaLangleyS02
2 жыл бұрын
Heh?
@aaronmarko
2 жыл бұрын
@@AsukaLangleyS02 It's a little joke about the last video he put out before this one was about tech gadgets you could only get if you were in prison.
@Dtr146
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro are you going to be buying a steamed deck when it comes out? If so, will you be doing a review? Would love to hear your opinion on it.
@pjf6742 жыл бұрын
So good to see you back. Always quality from this channel.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! I'll keep trying to deliver
@jcaseyjones28292 жыл бұрын
Coleco Chameleon was the single most entertaining thing that has ever happened in the retro gaming community and I wish it was still happening.
@qurn2 жыл бұрын
Doug didn't create Earthworm Jim, he was the head artist who made a lot of the art, and created a few of the characters in the game.
@bombabombom3603
Жыл бұрын
....I think that's what he meant.
@qurn
Жыл бұрын
@@bombabombom3603 I don't know, would you say Jack Kerby created Spider-Man because he was the first to draw him? No, we say Stan Lee created Spider-Man because he came up with the idea and made the design (allegedly). We now know that Doug and Tommy like to take credit for things they didn't do, and Doug didn't create or design Earthworm Jim, he was just the guy who drew him.
@bombabombom3603
Жыл бұрын
@@qurn Playmates Toys commissioned Shiny Entertainment to making an original character for a video game franchise and David Perry brought Doug into designing the game after he showed him the original sketch of the character. So I don't know what backwards logic you're ideating but the concrete reality is that Doug TenNapel CREATED Earthworm Jim. If you want to be really formal about it, then Doug TenNapel and David Perry created Earthworm Jim. If you wanna be even more anally retentive about it, then Playmates Toys, Doug TenNapel AND David Perry created Earthworm Jim. Just because he's a fucking lunatic doesn't mean you erase history like the SJWs on Twitter actively censoring and forcing altered reality on the entertainment industry. Bill Cosby CREATED The Cosby Show. John Kricfalusi CREATED The Ren & Stimpy Show. Michael Jackson CREATED the Thriller album. Adolf Hitler killed over 6 million Jews. Deal with the reality.
@qurn
Жыл бұрын
@@bombabombom3603 Yes, Hitler killed 6 million jews, I'm glad we at least agree on that. I'm not comfortable saying Doug created EWJ. It's a vague enough statement to have some truth, but could also be used to imply a bunch of stuff that isn't. What are we talking about? the game series? the first game? The IP? the character? And secondly, it erases David's involvement. If he had a major hand in creating EWJ, the character, then he is a Co-creator, but thats never made clear. I'd have to see something from David saying that Doug had major creative input into EWJ the character, before I'd be cool with that statement. Doug helped shape the IP, because he created Prof. monkey for a head and Evil the cat, I think? but saying Doug was one of the people who helped create EWJ is not the same as saying, Doug created EWJ. Saying that is erasing history.
@bombabombom3603
Жыл бұрын
@@qurn Why the fuck am I arguing with this? You're actively trying to create some sort of mental gymnastics to discredit Doug TenNapel because you can't accept the cold hard reality that he is a fucking psycho who made something you grew up with. Look, instead of this nonsense, do what I do; Separate the artist from the art. There you go. Stop trying to make yourself look stupid by searching for a complicated alternative and just live by disassociating the screwball with the thing he or she made. Trust me, 'cause the shit you're doing right now? Not worth it.
@metademetra2 жыл бұрын
I have a logistics problem with games only being E. There are gonna be a TON of publishers that will just not work with Amico because they don't want the artistic restriction. That's a LOT of lost royalties. It would be like if a movie theater refused to show PG-13 movies and then cut itself off willingly from End Game money.
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
Trying to market a family friendly only console to the mainstream or retro market doesn't make the slightest sense business wise. The people behind Amico could have easily just use an existing or start their own online digital platform and entice developers from there instead. Developing and releasing your own console takes significant amount of time, resources and not to mention hiring the necessary talents like hardware and software engineers all of whom in no way going to be cheap.
@robinmattheussen23952 жыл бұрын
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce was able to make one hell of a refrigerator.
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
At this point even Soulja Boy is closer to releasing his own game console than the Amigo.
@Larry2 жыл бұрын
Funilly enough, John K DID develop a video game years ago, Go! Go! Hypergrind for the GameCube.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Larry!! Good to see you bro!! Holy crap! I didn't know John K developed that game! I actually have a copy of it. I bought it out of curiosity for $2.99 about ten years ago. Now it's worth 100x that!
@foscogrubb
2 жыл бұрын
Hello you
@fattiger69572 жыл бұрын
About 2 years ago, I commented on a video about the Amico. I said that they wouldn't have enough money to launch a console and be taken seriously. Tommy Telerico (sp?) himself replied and said he totally had enough money to pay for the whole thing. So I was skimming through video game news about a few week or so ago and what headline do I see. The Amico team has run out of money and needs a massive cash injection to keep going. Not to say I told everyone so, but I told everyone so.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
It's quite a saga already. He's such a dirtbag. So proud of all the money he raised and he squanders it all before the console even makes its first deliveries. It's pathetic really
@gmcnewlook
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone saw it coming …. 4 or 5 years ago….
@toyvania
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you make a video about this and boom! Also, Phil Adam fro the Coleco Chameleon is also the new CEO of Intellivision...hmmm.
@andrewtaylor940
2 жыл бұрын
It was glaringly apparent that Tommy had neither the money nor the skills to bring a console to market. Honestly no independent small team does anymore. The low end market is taken up by near perfect emulation on things like Raspberry Pi’s or smart phone boards. The bottom end market is already swamped by AT games. The upper end market needs billions to compete or even reach production. There is no niche for this thing. Everything about it radiates failure. Wacky proprietary controls. No 3rd party software developers, proprietary hardware in an overly expensive yet woefully underpowered main board.
@Nordlicht05
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro these people do have a very huge playground called the internet.
@QuintusCunctator2 жыл бұрын
Good God, you can tell these "idea guys" are out of touch with reality. When your best idea, and possibly business model, is "bring back families in front of the television" you're just fishing for nostalgia. Ok, we all know the 80 were great, but the 80 are unfortunately gone, and a vendor locked-in console won't bring them back. Oh, speaking of "bring them back"... Welcome back, SD&D! Your videos are always appreciated!
@andrewtaylor940
2 жыл бұрын
Most “idea guts” have a complete disassociation with reality. Yeah we look at Elon Musks rockets and assumes he has all the best people. But he’s got another pack of idiots digging trenches under Vegas for no sane reason.
@ccricers
2 жыл бұрын
It has the same problem that Butch Hartman’s Oaxis had. Neither has experience taking on a business with such a big ambition. Also it misses the mark on how family play became more uncommon: more video screens. You can’t undo that. Since the 80s, people put computers and laptops in their homes, and later smartphones and tablets. Might as well try to rewind the progress of technology that’s the only way you’ll get families to gather more again.
@salva_752 жыл бұрын
In hindsight, Mike Kennedy was much more benign.
@onldhes2 жыл бұрын
You missed the best part where Pat and Ian were very nice, yet critical of the Amico and Tommy went balls to the wall insane and started making fun of them and trying to slander them. It was at that point I realized this console would be a shit show.
@JennyTheNerdBat
2 жыл бұрын
Still find it funny how that backfired for Tommy - with CUPodcast merely observing situation from sidelines before, yet now they have a whole weekly section to shit on Amico and expose Tommy's shenanigans.
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, they have mostly been polite, only getting cantankerous when targeted directly by the cult.
@paradoxzee6834
2 жыл бұрын
Also his interview with reviewtechusa there are many interesting moments but one moment shocked me he said, if people want games where they have rape and kids in compromising position they should get a Switch. Than later people asked him what are the games he is referring to on the Switch, he gave no answer just >There are AO games on the Switch.
@NoGamesPortable
2 жыл бұрын
I know they got rid of his Atari Age hangout, but did the moderators delete those threads? I remember Tommy getting into crazy arguments on why it was okay for them to dig up an expired Bomberman related trademark for their Bomberman clone that Konami/Hudson had nothing to do with.
@Pooky1991
Жыл бұрын
Even funnier seeing other youtubers take major Ls following behind Tommy in slandering Ian and Pat, only for everything they said would happen to come true.
@bombabombom36032 жыл бұрын
These fucking projects are handled by lunatics, I swear. "Hey, let me steal a name from the 1970s/80s and shit all over it by being a sociopath that'll blacklist my entire career faster than John K's dark web search history!"
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol. I love this comment
@Alu4042 жыл бұрын
Holy cow, VERY happy to see you back in my inbox. Thank you for uploading again! I really missed your content! I hope life has been swell on your end.
@zackschilling43762 жыл бұрын
I think Mike's idea about remaking the more popular Intellivision games is a much better idea than trying to crap out an android/phone-like console that is limited in so many ways. Anyone that plays games either A) has a gaming PC/console or B) just plays the Free-To-Play garbage on their phones.
@gateroozeink50612 жыл бұрын
@StopDrop&Retro - I'm sure you've heard the (old) news that the new Intellivision CEO Phil Adam was the VP of Business Development at... Coleco Chameleon.
@VOAN
2 жыл бұрын
Yeap it's old news but it's not like Phil Adam just came out of nowhere, he was with the Intellivision Amico team from the start-up even when they made that reveal trailer back in 2018. It's just this year that everyone finally took noticed, had Tommy not made Phil the CEO of Intellivision, nobody would care or raised an eyebrows. Like the saying goes, he would had gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqOft9CnYc-od6Q.html He appeared at the 3:28 mark.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, I heard but I didn't include it because I didn't have a lot of information to add to the theme of this video. I don't really get why Phil Adam was ever there to begin with aside from "this guy worked for XYZ company! now we have industry cred!"
@BernardoOne2 жыл бұрын
Hey now, the Ouya actually had pretty decent hardware at the time for it's price! And the library was amazing in comparison with the Amico! Meanwhile the Amico has the hardware of a 80$ phone selling for 300$ and with like 6 games "confirmed" for launch.
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
Sad to say, but as far as startup indie consoles go, the Ouya is probably the best case scenario you could hope for.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Really, it was. They had a plan, raised their own money, and you can tell they were trying really hard to push that console. They made some mistakes along the way but really they were in the best position to succeed and people just weren't buying it.
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Just about. I've said it before, the Ouya people did it the right way, they just didn't realize that they had the wrong lessons from the mobile phone hype train. This thing, like the VGS before it, was a cash grab and nothing more.
@openskiesmedia
2 жыл бұрын
The Ouya was actually visionary, it was just a little too early. The Nintendo Switch is pretty much an Ouya.
@paradoxzee6834
2 жыл бұрын
Many used Ouya as an emulation box, it was cheap and you could download emulators. At the time the Raspberry pi was still new and it did not really took off yet
@TheCommanderTaco2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget they won't let you return the games either, because each game is supposed to be it's own NFT lol.
@SegaSnatchers2 жыл бұрын
Thankfully we won't see Tommy in the comments section "Setting the record straight" anymore. Great video!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wish he would. I like it when a creator is unhinged like that. It's a rare and beautifully disastrous thing.
@Snev2 жыл бұрын
One thing I've always loved about your videos are these surprise WTF revelations surrounding project creators and good god, that book reveal during Tallarico's meeting with Snestastic bodied me
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, it’s just as surprising to me when it actually happens, lol. I try to recapture the moment
@ccricers2 жыл бұрын
“ Like Beyoncé designing a refrigerator”. Lol ah yes this is the SD&R style of exposition I fondly remember. Glad to see you finally give your take in this boondoggle of a console. Their last official video updates feel more like “fuck you” updates as you call them from your Aido robot video. They lack care and follow through, more like preaching to the choir than attract more gamers. I think we’re finally at the beginning of the end for this venture.
@Astro_Jeff2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back! I would love to see further content on this. Slow motion catastrophes are interesting lol.
@RichardTroupe2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back! I was hoping for you to do a video on this one. The situation is only getting worse as well it seems!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Richard!!!! Good to see you here It's such a funny console. I kinda wish it would come out just to get the full experience because if things are bad now, a release is only going to amplify their problems lol
@LegendarySuperVegeta2 жыл бұрын
lost it at "your lawyer is not a time machine"
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol. It's true, some of these people think a lawyer is like a magic lamp.
@andrewwhitfield54802 жыл бұрын
Really glad to see you drop a video. Brilliant as usual.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! Good to see my long time fans again. I'm glad you liked it!!
@Roboshi20072 жыл бұрын
It's funny, while shit like this fails, the evercade is doing great as the niche, affordable retro console these things could've been if they weren't run by idiots or crooks
@VOAN
2 жыл бұрын
The Ouya, Atari VCS, The Playdate, Steam Deck, Analogue Pocket, EverCade, GPD Win 3, AYA Neo, AYN Odin, OneXPlayer, and Polymega all had succeed to exist. I guess the only Intellivision Amico that's working right now is the one Tommy had in his basement with his Spider-Man collection. So far the only Smach Z that still exist is the one the PHAWX had in his arsenal.
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
I think what helps Evercade is that they knew exactly what they wanted to make and had a realistic expectation of the size of their market. They knew they weren’t going to be running Sony out of business or revolutionizing handheld gaming as we know it. They spent just what they needed to spend to reach the people that welcomed the idea.
@baroncalamityplus
2 жыл бұрын
Even the freakin' Atari VCS 800 made it out and can be bought. That one seemed to have goals that were out of reach yet somehow, the people running it seemed out of touch, they succeeded. I own one and its a decent dual core PC if you want to boot windows and play emulators or low requirement games off steam, epic, gog.. etc.
@Matt__B
2 жыл бұрын
It's that satisfying click when you put the cartridge in. Once Blaze had nailed that, they had a winner. :)
@Roboshi2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@VOAN that list you made is mostly either portable pcs which are different from what this kinda thing is, or they flopped hard once they went out the gate.
@chompers55682 жыл бұрын
He returns. Man wished you made more videos
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Me too!! I need to get back in a rhythm. I'm going to try my best, I got a lot to talk about
@Thiesi
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Good thing we have lots of ears to listen to you.
@TheAlphaOmegaX32 жыл бұрын
You made a comment about an individual turning people away from a product. For some yes absolutely. That within itself would only affect sells of a product by a mere fraction. Price, quality of software, and advertising would be far more important to the consumer. If people based their buying decision more on individuals that work for a company, or leadership at said company, EA and Activision would have been out of business years ago. Everything else I agree 100%. Had a feeling you were going to cover this at some point lol.
@DarienDragonFox2 жыл бұрын
HUAH MY BOIS BACK!!! Literally rewatched not long ago waitin on ya!
@thatoneluna Жыл бұрын
"what kinda ceo fights people on twitter?!" the ceo of twitter
@davidkiernan30892 жыл бұрын
What kind of CEO fights people of Twitter? #cough# Elon Musk
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious that these people like to whine how people are targeting and attacking them yet continue to pick fights with people on Twitter and other social media.
@salozmen292 жыл бұрын
Tommy is a huge reason this thing is tanking so bad.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I actually feel sorry for him, he's dealing with a terminally ill father right now. But when it comes to this project he did dig his own grave unfortunately.
@Robbie-mw5uu
2 жыл бұрын
The Intellivison Amico has plenty of reasons it's not succeeding--Tommy is barely an issue.
@salozmen29
2 жыл бұрын
@@Robbie-mw5uu Get off his nuts. He was the worst person for the job.
@Robbie-mw5uu
2 жыл бұрын
@@salozmen29 He's not the reason the Amico is failing, whether he was there or not.
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
Tommy is one of the main reason that the Amigo failed. Stop shilling for that clown, he own, founded and managed the company including hiring the people behind this crap of a console. The guy have zero business sense especially when it comes to starting his own company being involved with a game console.
@paulpiusink69172 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for you to do a video on the Amico! And it was worth every minute, top-notch work 😎
@monky71062 жыл бұрын
This video seemed less to me like "The untold history of the Intellivision Amico" and more like "The often-told history of the VGS and Doug TenNapel"
@NoGamesPortable
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. It's really weird, too, because Kennedy and TenNapel have very little to do with this train wreck. The Evercade is a far more direct successor to the Retro VGS than Tallarico's footbath with free-to-play mobile games. TenNapel has almost no involvement with this mess. Tallarico said he would be an unpaid consultant on Earthworm Jim, a game that doesn't seem like it even exists. There's never been any indication he's otherwise part of the Amico team. An EWJ reunion photo from years ago doesn't change that. It's pretty transparent guilt by association and while Tommy has said some inexcusably dumb shit, that has nothing to do with Doug.
@monky7106
2 жыл бұрын
@@NoGamesPortable I noticed a few other comments but they are mostly gone now. **shrug**
@NoGamesPortable
2 жыл бұрын
@@monky7106 I only watched this video today, so I can't say I caught any since deleted comments but I hope you're mistaken. SDR criticizing Tommy and then pulling a Tommy would be crazy.
@jeremiahmiller58482 жыл бұрын
Late night Strop, Drop, & Retro, don’t mind if I do
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to keep u up, lol. But I hope it's worth it!
@DoomDeer2 жыл бұрын
OOOOHHH when we needed him the most... he appears! thank you SDR!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! I hope I gave an interesting take on this!!
@DoomDeer
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro dude you blew my mind… the amico fiasco is a deeper rabbit hole than i thouhht holy hell…
@themachotacoisback43332 жыл бұрын
I wonder what Mike Kennedy is up to nowadays
@malkneil2 жыл бұрын
Amico's 10 Commandments should have started with Commandment #1 being "You shall not have any other Gods before me (Tommy Tallarico)".
@PKInTheUniverse2 жыл бұрын
The king has returned!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
and I plan to stay! Need to get working on new content soon
@PKInTheUniverse
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro this is such an informative video, I always learn something new from you. Like I know there was talk originally about re-imagined Intellivision games coming to the Retro VGS back in the day , but I never knew there were plans prior to release them digitally. This is what it should’ve been all along.
@AsukaLangleyS022 жыл бұрын
I was just seeing if you made a video a week ago, noticed you hadn't uploaded in forever so it's nice to see you upload.
@uspresdientcentral2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new upload! Also, a bit off topic, but didn't you have a video about Smach Z going bankrupt a year or so ago? I can't find that but could swear I saw it.
@dfkman
2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned it offhand in his Steam Deck anouncennt video
@volvo092 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, so it's not even a retro console? Those games look horrific.
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
They're also running as Jeremy Parish stated of Micronics, a "Eh, good enough" framerate. Think of it. A console, (whose controllers have no face buttons, mind you) is struggling to run a single screen game.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
It's a retro idea! Specifically retro as in 7 years ago and if Mike Kennedy were a game.
@Carnelust2 жыл бұрын
I know you don't monetize your videos but have you considered a Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee or even straight up accepting tips via PayPal? Like, you're one of my favorite creators here and I'd really like to help you more of them, even if it's just a cup of coffee or just a fiver.
@rustkitty2 жыл бұрын
Finally new content! I'd say I was getting tired of watching reruns of your library but I'm not sure that's possible.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm trying to work on more content to keep you busy! Thanks again for being a fan
@xbrandon22522 жыл бұрын
So glad you're back again, I miss seeing regular uploads from you man your content is so good. Congrats on 2m views on your last vid you deserve it.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro! That last hardware review was insane! I've got some more interesting stuff on the way so hopefully I can pull those numbers again
@Paethgoat2 жыл бұрын
I'm sad I will never see my wood grained themed paperweight.
@eforhan2 жыл бұрын
SD&R's back! Some of us saw the real Tommy on AtariAge _way_ before "legal incoming!" and Ars Tech.
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
Some people even saw the real Tommy on IGN. In 2003.
@eforhan
2 жыл бұрын
@@XanthinZarda Some people never heard of Tommy Tallarico before 2018! I even loved MDK back in the day.
@EarthboundX2 жыл бұрын
Would a casual gamer as they call them in that Fig campaign even buy any kind of console? Or would they just play games on their phones as they had already likely been doing?
@xiao6682 жыл бұрын
We missed you king 🥺
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
thanks bro! I missed you guys more! Glad to be back
@xiao668
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Unsure if I should add a joke about being the only female in your audience or if I should just say it's an honor to be misgendered by my liege
@royg97762 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid as always Retro, I've probably watched every video of yours like 5 times at this point
@maxxam35902 жыл бұрын
I missed these videos. Your voice is still cool AF and relaxing.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol, I should start SDR ASMR channel
@Ashamaxa2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Guantanamo has a "video editing and publishing" program for it's interns, cuz I've missed you mate.i hope you're doing some gains there.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
It's my human right to shitpost even behind bars
@zackschilling43762 жыл бұрын
Tommy shouldnt have ever been the CEO. He couldnt take the slightest critique, even when it came from dedicated fans of this project and were just trying to help.
@Rexen19952 жыл бұрын
We've been blessed once again with amazing content.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
And I've been blessed with your views! Thanks for staying on board
@ThatsPety2 жыл бұрын
HE HAS RETURNED! man, I know I'm the most random irrelevant account on this website, but just know the dude behind this random irrelevant account absolutely loves your content, and will always be hype for a new video no matter how long it takes
@ezg20002 жыл бұрын
As far as the 10 Commandments. Tommy has said #5 has changed. Now it's "only launch games must be $10 or less."
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
"launch"
@ezg2000
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Yep. Tommy was saying for 3+ years "All Games $10 or less". Now after E3 2021, it's all the launch lineup will be $10 or less. The new CEO phil adam said the price of the 2nd wave will go up 100%. So expect to pay $20 for flash games that only have 20 minutes of gameplay. He also said that the console will go up in price (currently it's $250) to any where for 50% ($375) to 100% ($500). Who in the hell will pay that price for this shovelware?
@SteveTomSawyer2 жыл бұрын
I feel like I should give some further context into how most of this came into being since I gave Mike the OG concept for Retro Magazine and he spun that up into something bigger. Buuuuuut that’s not the first thing that Mike and I worked on. Waaaaaaay back when, Mike was envisioning a way to disrupt used games sales and guess who was on his advisory board?? Ok me but also Phil Adam lol.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Steve Tom Sawyer! Dude, I’ve heard a lot about you. Hit me up on discord if you want to talk further.
@SteveTomSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro will do!
@TheT3rr0rMask2 жыл бұрын
Why is it so hard for these IP holders, like the new Atari people, to just make really good plug n plays? We have four main platforms already, there's no room for another mainstream player. The only retro revival brand that's seen success is Evercade because they focused on making good, practical devices focused on preservation that has a desirable appeal to a certain niche instead of focusing on a dead brand alone to sell and support their systems.
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Well to their credit, Atari has been supporting the Legends Ultimate platform from AtGames (A company that actually pulled its head out of its ass, from the looks of it), so there's that.
@cameron62622 жыл бұрын
We need more of your videos! You should do a follow up on some of your old ones like flatev! Glad you are back!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I've actually got some of that in the works!! Stay tuned :D
@legtendgav5562 жыл бұрын
We all knew this wold end up here... but I'm still sad to see it. Glad you're back.
@jjkunzler2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for the people with a bunch of game boxes that will never have a console to go with it
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's pretty cool to have a memento like that from a failed campaign. They can just play similar games on a phone anyway.
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Which reminds me, have you seen the dead startup toys? There's an "art collective" who did a limited run figurines of things like the Coolest Cooler, Jibo, the Juciero, and Theranos.
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, when they start fire-saling the remaining stock as individual curios for a few bucks when this thing is fully tits up, I may buy a few as keepsakes. It’ll go nicely next to my Coleco Chameleon and my in-progress Infinium Phantom (still need to add Pepsi to it)
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
@@XanthinZarda oh my god, i need to look that up
@DijaVlogsGames2 жыл бұрын
I‘d say the whole concept could work if the console was $100. But not like this. And I don’t think the controversial people involved really matter to their target audience of casual gamers. But they will never buy their console, because they already have phones, tablets and probably a Switch. No wonder they couldn’t find traditional investors for this. It makes no sense.
@nicholash.a.s94952 жыл бұрын
Wtf Christmas in February.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I'll outlive all of these crowdfunding schemes!!
@m1ddl3man2 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back man, worth the wait!
@MarceldeJong2 жыл бұрын
Well, after the kitchenware line from Drew Barrymore, I wouldn’t be surprised if a Beyoncé fridge gets made.
@a-bas-le-ciel2 жыл бұрын
Quote, "one of the greatest hoax consoles of all time". The competition for the title of "greatest hoax" is fierce.
@Bee_Tea_Sea2 жыл бұрын
There's nothing wrong with a person having opinions and being honest about em, even as dissonant as said opinions may be. When people are more open about the wild stuff they think it always makes my day better. Makes things infinitely more interesting when people have less filtering in their day to day dialog. Would have never know personally that the earthworm jim dude thought those things otherwise
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
True, people should be open about their wacky opinions. But the problem I have is when they think freedom of speech is freedom from consequences.
@Bee_Tea_Sea
2 жыл бұрын
Someone's views are a thing to be taken into consideration when speaking on them. Shouldn't be something they can be taken down for, maybe the wild things a person says can be something to discredited them for yes, but not nuked like so many have been, and for far less than Doug was Makes me glad I'm nobody some days, that I'll never have to worry about people not liking what I say so much to the point of wanting me totally vaporized
@domeen0gt8952 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you're back, anyways, see you in 7 months.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
see ya then!
@mathematics1172 жыл бұрын
the man is back! ^_^ hopefully you are doing well, great video!
@MegaTerryNutkins2 жыл бұрын
Great to see you making videos again, do you have the final chapter of the SmachZ debacle in the works by any chance?
@thaddeuscosse95272 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you to do a video on this dumpster fire for a long time.
@MarkOfAstria2 жыл бұрын
"What kind of CEO fights people on Twitter?" Tim Sweeney.
@CodyJBriscoe2 жыл бұрын
MIKE KENNDEDY?! It's like when a slasher villain comes back for a jumpscare
@ezg20002 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know there is a HUGE similiar between the amico and the coleco chameleon. The new CEO phil adam had a high ranking position with the chameleon. This amico story is stranger than fiction.
@arcticcircle9178
2 жыл бұрын
Retro VGS was the original name for the Coleco Chameleon, though it is interesting to see that Phil Adam is back. ~Cherri
@FrostyNagaBear2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. Glad to hear that intro again.
@imaybesean90582 жыл бұрын
Seeing a console on your channel is the kiss of death for it. I had my deposit refunded months ago. Too many delays, and too many fanatics in the Amico Facebook group calling people assholes for asking questions.
@cyan_2169
2 жыл бұрын
Putting a downpayment on the amico is a bit of a self report lol
@SimisearOfficial2 жыл бұрын
Hes back boys, lets goooo
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again!! Hope you enjoy the vid!
@SimisearOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro I am loving it so far, I really hope this exposure bites them back in the ass like the Smach Z did, especially bringing back to life TenNapel being a shithead
@theantithesis12 жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else remembers Intellivision Gen2. Seems like everyone else has forgotten. Frankly, the Gen2 versions of the games look better than the Amico versions, and the Gen2 versions look terrible.
@chrissawyer14842 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. We missed you!
@Dtr1462 жыл бұрын
I'm praying that this dude right here buys the steam deck and give us his opinion.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I sure did! I wasn't able to get in the first batch though, unfortunately :( But yes, I will review it
@poble2 жыл бұрын
you uploaded 2 months ago and somehow yt never notified me :(
@Ianstuff20232 жыл бұрын
I am beside myself with excitement I've been waiting for you to do another video and you end up making one about something I'm actually currently interested in
@joeyjojoshabadoo2508 Жыл бұрын
"Youq dont see other CEOs fightin random people on twitter" oh this aged GREAT
@misao63972 жыл бұрын
Woah, back from the dead! Awesome to see you again
@nathan-qcueparsons2682 жыл бұрын
Stop disappearing😂 good to see you man Happy New year
@azalearichardson91132 жыл бұрын
Was they really expecting someone to put in a $50,000 investment? I would better understand if it was a requirement on fig to have 4 tiers and they just made the other 3 ridiculous just so the first one would look good
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
go big or go home!! [Narrarator voice] Amico went home...
@xWORLDxCHAMPIONx2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about how I miss this channel and what do you know, a new video!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
You've got the shinning....
@jasonmuller11992 жыл бұрын
An intellevision mini like the other minis would have been a much better option maybe with a usb port that allows it to get updates or something
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Sad part? The previous owners of the Intellivision brand worked with AtGames to make an Intellivision Flashback. Works well enough, and was a sign of what might have been if Keith Robinson not died in 2017.
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It's wild that Tommy Talerico is basically the Butch Hartman of gaming
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
2 жыл бұрын
They even look alike a little bit
@jennyholiday88
2 жыл бұрын
@@ParanoidThalyyMVS OK SO IT'S NOT JUST ME WHO THOUGHT THAT
@ParanoidThalyyMVS
2 жыл бұрын
@@jennyholiday88 I don't know if my glasses are foggy or something but, I swear I got their faces confused more than one time XD
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
You know, the similarities between him and Hartman go even further. That could be part of another episode though…
@jennyholiday88
2 жыл бұрын
Oaxis for Amico confirmed
You have no idea how fast I clicked when the notification came in. Welcome back once again!
@Black_Revue
2 жыл бұрын
I'm just as Surprised as You are
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol, thanks!! Good to see you again, bro
@Lethaltail
2 жыл бұрын
Aaaand there’s icon!
Watching this after hbomberman's deep dive into Tommy Tallarico's rabbit hole of lies is...interesting lmfao
@poble
Ай бұрын
his mother is very proud
Idk if you knew this, but another youtuber named hbomberguy made a video on Tommy and his many many MANY lies. After watching that video and then coming back here, both compliment each other perfectly. Learning more about the Amico and then learning of the batshit chaos of Tommy's other lies. You're right at the end of your video. The story definitely doesn't end with the Amico
SD&R - the only channel that does a documentary, roast, and exposing evidence all in one video. Glad you're back!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a really good description! I need to add it to my channel info
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro _Roast, Toast, and Exposé._ I know that last one doesn't rhyme remotely unless you Coach Z the behoozits out of it.
The thing is, while Amico was floundering, the Evercade has proven the idea of a niche console with cartridge based games collections can work. The handheld has proven pretty popular with said niche, and the home version, the Evercade VS, is coming out on the 25th in the US. The difference is that they mostly sell actual retro games. While there are a few indie collections (mostly by companies that make new games for retro platforms, like Mega Cat or Piko), the majority of content is re-releases of retro titles in collections per cartridge. There's even an Intellivision collection, hey hey!
Now I feel sorry for Keith Robinson not being around to stop this madness. :-(
@MikeFranklin69
Жыл бұрын
Keith is ROLLING in his grave.
@ccricers
Жыл бұрын
I wish we could hear Keith's side of the story about how the Intellivision company deal came to be. It's highly possible that Tommy made up the story about Keith's last wish to make a completely new console as a publicity stunt.
I think their whole '10 Commandments of Game Design' is a telling reason of why they keep Doug TenNapel.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this right here. I’m considering a follow up to go over the weird religious Amico stuff.
@baroncalamityplus
2 жыл бұрын
Now that I know about the origins, Thats creepy.
@chrissawyer1484
2 жыл бұрын
@Lassi Kinnunen (WILL CHANGE ACCOUNT IN 2 DAYS) I remember that it was told to people along the lines of "Doug got to make graphic novels of EWJ while the rest of the crew worked on the game and got residuals from sales." I didn't know about the Tommy connection.
@ccricers
2 жыл бұрын
Apparently they are now breaking some of the commandments since CFO Nick Richards said Intellivision will consider making more mobile game ports and paid DLC. And the new CEO that replaced Tommy says games could go up to $20 in price.
@dacid9018
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro please do
Damn! And I had pre-ordered the Amico to tide me over until my Smach Z arrives! 🤬
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can emulate the Smach Z on the Steam Deck lol
@KahlessTheUnforgettable
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro One can dream! Ah well; I suppose The Intellivision®️ Amico™️ is really the friends we made along the way 🧎🏻♂️
Beyonce's refrigerator will be out before the Amico.
Nowadays, it seems like an interesting idea (to me) to have a small collection of recent things that became money pits. Almost like hunting trophies I guess. On one wall, an Amico game. On another, a graded Spider-Man 2600 I got after the inevitable graded games crash for the sum of $1. And the crown jewel of the collection? A framed screenshot of a screenshot of a screenshot of an NFT.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I'll take a screenshot of your screenshot of a a screenshot of an NFT and wear it in an locket.
@alaeriia01
Жыл бұрын
I keep meaning to pick up an Atari VCS whenever Microcenter has them.
Seeing Doug TenNapel going fucking nuts is just sad... the Neverhood was such a big part of my childhood and I still love it. Just wish it wasn't tied to such an asshat. Great vid, SDR! Good to have you back :)
@cassia3363
2 жыл бұрын
I also just learned that apparently the guy who did the soundtrack to The Neverhood does mostly Christian music. It makes sense now. It is kinda surreal how a game that was such a creative spin on religion/creation myths (with some fascinating writing -- I have actually read the entire Hall of Records, because I have no life whatsofuckingever) was thought up by a radical nutcase. Such a shame.
Bro NO WAY i just started binging all your kickstarter failure videos, I was wondering where you went or which kickstarter campaign hired a hitman on you, but glad to see you're back!!!
@volvo09
2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget... The autoblow was a success!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
The PGS mafia is gonna have to try harder than that!!
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro just be careful. Now that you’re a gaming racist, more people will be gunning for you.
Ah looks like they finally let you use the computer in Attica. I'm surprised they have computers that can edit video in prison but hey, maybe this is part of some kind of work release program for felons. Either way, it's great to see you back, buddy!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
A few more months and I'm back on the streets!! Lol, thanks buddy! It's good to be back
@dimsumboy22
2 жыл бұрын
HES BACK
@AsukaLangleyS02
2 жыл бұрын
Heh?
@aaronmarko
2 жыл бұрын
@@AsukaLangleyS02 It's a little joke about the last video he put out before this one was about tech gadgets you could only get if you were in prison.
@Dtr146
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro are you going to be buying a steamed deck when it comes out? If so, will you be doing a review? Would love to hear your opinion on it.
So good to see you back. Always quality from this channel.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro! I'll keep trying to deliver
Coleco Chameleon was the single most entertaining thing that has ever happened in the retro gaming community and I wish it was still happening.
Doug didn't create Earthworm Jim, he was the head artist who made a lot of the art, and created a few of the characters in the game.
@bombabombom3603
Жыл бұрын
....I think that's what he meant.
@qurn
Жыл бұрын
@@bombabombom3603 I don't know, would you say Jack Kerby created Spider-Man because he was the first to draw him? No, we say Stan Lee created Spider-Man because he came up with the idea and made the design (allegedly). We now know that Doug and Tommy like to take credit for things they didn't do, and Doug didn't create or design Earthworm Jim, he was just the guy who drew him.
@bombabombom3603
Жыл бұрын
@@qurn Playmates Toys commissioned Shiny Entertainment to making an original character for a video game franchise and David Perry brought Doug into designing the game after he showed him the original sketch of the character. So I don't know what backwards logic you're ideating but the concrete reality is that Doug TenNapel CREATED Earthworm Jim. If you want to be really formal about it, then Doug TenNapel and David Perry created Earthworm Jim. If you wanna be even more anally retentive about it, then Playmates Toys, Doug TenNapel AND David Perry created Earthworm Jim. Just because he's a fucking lunatic doesn't mean you erase history like the SJWs on Twitter actively censoring and forcing altered reality on the entertainment industry. Bill Cosby CREATED The Cosby Show. John Kricfalusi CREATED The Ren & Stimpy Show. Michael Jackson CREATED the Thriller album. Adolf Hitler killed over 6 million Jews. Deal with the reality.
@qurn
Жыл бұрын
@@bombabombom3603 Yes, Hitler killed 6 million jews, I'm glad we at least agree on that. I'm not comfortable saying Doug created EWJ. It's a vague enough statement to have some truth, but could also be used to imply a bunch of stuff that isn't. What are we talking about? the game series? the first game? The IP? the character? And secondly, it erases David's involvement. If he had a major hand in creating EWJ, the character, then he is a Co-creator, but thats never made clear. I'd have to see something from David saying that Doug had major creative input into EWJ the character, before I'd be cool with that statement. Doug helped shape the IP, because he created Prof. monkey for a head and Evil the cat, I think? but saying Doug was one of the people who helped create EWJ is not the same as saying, Doug created EWJ. Saying that is erasing history.
@bombabombom3603
Жыл бұрын
@@qurn Why the fuck am I arguing with this? You're actively trying to create some sort of mental gymnastics to discredit Doug TenNapel because you can't accept the cold hard reality that he is a fucking psycho who made something you grew up with. Look, instead of this nonsense, do what I do; Separate the artist from the art. There you go. Stop trying to make yourself look stupid by searching for a complicated alternative and just live by disassociating the screwball with the thing he or she made. Trust me, 'cause the shit you're doing right now? Not worth it.
I have a logistics problem with games only being E. There are gonna be a TON of publishers that will just not work with Amico because they don't want the artistic restriction. That's a LOT of lost royalties. It would be like if a movie theater refused to show PG-13 movies and then cut itself off willingly from End Game money.
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
Trying to market a family friendly only console to the mainstream or retro market doesn't make the slightest sense business wise. The people behind Amico could have easily just use an existing or start their own online digital platform and entice developers from there instead. Developing and releasing your own console takes significant amount of time, resources and not to mention hiring the necessary talents like hardware and software engineers all of whom in no way going to be cheap.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Beyonce was able to make one hell of a refrigerator.
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
At this point even Soulja Boy is closer to releasing his own game console than the Amigo.
Funilly enough, John K DID develop a video game years ago, Go! Go! Hypergrind for the GameCube.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Larry!! Good to see you bro!! Holy crap! I didn't know John K developed that game! I actually have a copy of it. I bought it out of curiosity for $2.99 about ten years ago. Now it's worth 100x that!
@foscogrubb
2 жыл бұрын
Hello you
About 2 years ago, I commented on a video about the Amico. I said that they wouldn't have enough money to launch a console and be taken seriously. Tommy Telerico (sp?) himself replied and said he totally had enough money to pay for the whole thing. So I was skimming through video game news about a few week or so ago and what headline do I see. The Amico team has run out of money and needs a massive cash injection to keep going. Not to say I told everyone so, but I told everyone so.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
It's quite a saga already. He's such a dirtbag. So proud of all the money he raised and he squanders it all before the console even makes its first deliveries. It's pathetic really
@gmcnewlook
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone saw it coming …. 4 or 5 years ago….
@toyvania
2 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you make a video about this and boom! Also, Phil Adam fro the Coleco Chameleon is also the new CEO of Intellivision...hmmm.
@andrewtaylor940
2 жыл бұрын
It was glaringly apparent that Tommy had neither the money nor the skills to bring a console to market. Honestly no independent small team does anymore. The low end market is taken up by near perfect emulation on things like Raspberry Pi’s or smart phone boards. The bottom end market is already swamped by AT games. The upper end market needs billions to compete or even reach production. There is no niche for this thing. Everything about it radiates failure. Wacky proprietary controls. No 3rd party software developers, proprietary hardware in an overly expensive yet woefully underpowered main board.
@Nordlicht05
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro these people do have a very huge playground called the internet.
Good God, you can tell these "idea guys" are out of touch with reality. When your best idea, and possibly business model, is "bring back families in front of the television" you're just fishing for nostalgia. Ok, we all know the 80 were great, but the 80 are unfortunately gone, and a vendor locked-in console won't bring them back. Oh, speaking of "bring them back"... Welcome back, SD&D! Your videos are always appreciated!
@andrewtaylor940
2 жыл бұрын
Most “idea guts” have a complete disassociation with reality. Yeah we look at Elon Musks rockets and assumes he has all the best people. But he’s got another pack of idiots digging trenches under Vegas for no sane reason.
@ccricers
2 жыл бұрын
It has the same problem that Butch Hartman’s Oaxis had. Neither has experience taking on a business with such a big ambition. Also it misses the mark on how family play became more uncommon: more video screens. You can’t undo that. Since the 80s, people put computers and laptops in their homes, and later smartphones and tablets. Might as well try to rewind the progress of technology that’s the only way you’ll get families to gather more again.
In hindsight, Mike Kennedy was much more benign.
You missed the best part where Pat and Ian were very nice, yet critical of the Amico and Tommy went balls to the wall insane and started making fun of them and trying to slander them. It was at that point I realized this console would be a shit show.
@JennyTheNerdBat
2 жыл бұрын
Still find it funny how that backfired for Tommy - with CUPodcast merely observing situation from sidelines before, yet now they have a whole weekly section to shit on Amico and expose Tommy's shenanigans.
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, they have mostly been polite, only getting cantankerous when targeted directly by the cult.
@paradoxzee6834
2 жыл бұрын
Also his interview with reviewtechusa there are many interesting moments but one moment shocked me he said, if people want games where they have rape and kids in compromising position they should get a Switch. Than later people asked him what are the games he is referring to on the Switch, he gave no answer just >There are AO games on the Switch.
@NoGamesPortable
2 жыл бұрын
I know they got rid of his Atari Age hangout, but did the moderators delete those threads? I remember Tommy getting into crazy arguments on why it was okay for them to dig up an expired Bomberman related trademark for their Bomberman clone that Konami/Hudson had nothing to do with.
@Pooky1991
Жыл бұрын
Even funnier seeing other youtubers take major Ls following behind Tommy in slandering Ian and Pat, only for everything they said would happen to come true.
These fucking projects are handled by lunatics, I swear. "Hey, let me steal a name from the 1970s/80s and shit all over it by being a sociopath that'll blacklist my entire career faster than John K's dark web search history!"
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol. I love this comment
Holy cow, VERY happy to see you back in my inbox. Thank you for uploading again! I really missed your content! I hope life has been swell on your end.
I think Mike's idea about remaking the more popular Intellivision games is a much better idea than trying to crap out an android/phone-like console that is limited in so many ways. Anyone that plays games either A) has a gaming PC/console or B) just plays the Free-To-Play garbage on their phones.
@StopDrop&Retro - I'm sure you've heard the (old) news that the new Intellivision CEO Phil Adam was the VP of Business Development at... Coleco Chameleon.
@VOAN
2 жыл бұрын
Yeap it's old news but it's not like Phil Adam just came out of nowhere, he was with the Intellivision Amico team from the start-up even when they made that reveal trailer back in 2018. It's just this year that everyone finally took noticed, had Tommy not made Phil the CEO of Intellivision, nobody would care or raised an eyebrows. Like the saying goes, he would had gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids. kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqOft9CnYc-od6Q.html He appeared at the 3:28 mark.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
yeah, I heard but I didn't include it because I didn't have a lot of information to add to the theme of this video. I don't really get why Phil Adam was ever there to begin with aside from "this guy worked for XYZ company! now we have industry cred!"
Hey now, the Ouya actually had pretty decent hardware at the time for it's price! And the library was amazing in comparison with the Amico! Meanwhile the Amico has the hardware of a 80$ phone selling for 300$ and with like 6 games "confirmed" for launch.
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
Sad to say, but as far as startup indie consoles go, the Ouya is probably the best case scenario you could hope for.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Really, it was. They had a plan, raised their own money, and you can tell they were trying really hard to push that console. They made some mistakes along the way but really they were in the best position to succeed and people just weren't buying it.
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Just about. I've said it before, the Ouya people did it the right way, they just didn't realize that they had the wrong lessons from the mobile phone hype train. This thing, like the VGS before it, was a cash grab and nothing more.
@openskiesmedia
2 жыл бұрын
The Ouya was actually visionary, it was just a little too early. The Nintendo Switch is pretty much an Ouya.
@paradoxzee6834
2 жыл бұрын
Many used Ouya as an emulation box, it was cheap and you could download emulators. At the time the Raspberry pi was still new and it did not really took off yet
Don't forget they won't let you return the games either, because each game is supposed to be it's own NFT lol.
Thankfully we won't see Tommy in the comments section "Setting the record straight" anymore. Great video!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I wish he would. I like it when a creator is unhinged like that. It's a rare and beautifully disastrous thing.
One thing I've always loved about your videos are these surprise WTF revelations surrounding project creators and good god, that book reveal during Tallarico's meeting with Snestastic bodied me
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Trust me, it’s just as surprising to me when it actually happens, lol. I try to recapture the moment
“ Like Beyoncé designing a refrigerator”. Lol ah yes this is the SD&R style of exposition I fondly remember. Glad to see you finally give your take in this boondoggle of a console. Their last official video updates feel more like “fuck you” updates as you call them from your Aido robot video. They lack care and follow through, more like preaching to the choir than attract more gamers. I think we’re finally at the beginning of the end for this venture.
Glad to see you back! I would love to see further content on this. Slow motion catastrophes are interesting lol.
Welcome back! I was hoping for you to do a video on this one. The situation is only getting worse as well it seems!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Richard!!!! Good to see you here It's such a funny console. I kinda wish it would come out just to get the full experience because if things are bad now, a release is only going to amplify their problems lol
lost it at "your lawyer is not a time machine"
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol. It's true, some of these people think a lawyer is like a magic lamp.
Really glad to see you drop a video. Brilliant as usual.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy! Good to see my long time fans again. I'm glad you liked it!!
It's funny, while shit like this fails, the evercade is doing great as the niche, affordable retro console these things could've been if they weren't run by idiots or crooks
@VOAN
2 жыл бұрын
The Ouya, Atari VCS, The Playdate, Steam Deck, Analogue Pocket, EverCade, GPD Win 3, AYA Neo, AYN Odin, OneXPlayer, and Polymega all had succeed to exist. I guess the only Intellivision Amico that's working right now is the one Tommy had in his basement with his Spider-Man collection. So far the only Smach Z that still exist is the one the PHAWX had in his arsenal.
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
I think what helps Evercade is that they knew exactly what they wanted to make and had a realistic expectation of the size of their market. They knew they weren’t going to be running Sony out of business or revolutionizing handheld gaming as we know it. They spent just what they needed to spend to reach the people that welcomed the idea.
@baroncalamityplus
2 жыл бұрын
Even the freakin' Atari VCS 800 made it out and can be bought. That one seemed to have goals that were out of reach yet somehow, the people running it seemed out of touch, they succeeded. I own one and its a decent dual core PC if you want to boot windows and play emulators or low requirement games off steam, epic, gog.. etc.
@Matt__B
2 жыл бұрын
It's that satisfying click when you put the cartridge in. Once Blaze had nailed that, they had a winner. :)
@Roboshi2007
2 жыл бұрын
@@VOAN that list you made is mostly either portable pcs which are different from what this kinda thing is, or they flopped hard once they went out the gate.
He returns. Man wished you made more videos
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Me too!! I need to get back in a rhythm. I'm going to try my best, I got a lot to talk about
@Thiesi
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Good thing we have lots of ears to listen to you.
You made a comment about an individual turning people away from a product. For some yes absolutely. That within itself would only affect sells of a product by a mere fraction. Price, quality of software, and advertising would be far more important to the consumer. If people based their buying decision more on individuals that work for a company, or leadership at said company, EA and Activision would have been out of business years ago. Everything else I agree 100%. Had a feeling you were going to cover this at some point lol.
HUAH MY BOIS BACK!!! Literally rewatched not long ago waitin on ya!
"what kinda ceo fights people on twitter?!" the ceo of twitter
What kind of CEO fights people of Twitter? #cough# Elon Musk
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
Hilarious that these people like to whine how people are targeting and attacking them yet continue to pick fights with people on Twitter and other social media.
Tommy is a huge reason this thing is tanking so bad.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I actually feel sorry for him, he's dealing with a terminally ill father right now. But when it comes to this project he did dig his own grave unfortunately.
@Robbie-mw5uu
2 жыл бұрын
The Intellivison Amico has plenty of reasons it's not succeeding--Tommy is barely an issue.
@salozmen29
2 жыл бұрын
@@Robbie-mw5uu Get off his nuts. He was the worst person for the job.
@Robbie-mw5uu
2 жыл бұрын
@@salozmen29 He's not the reason the Amico is failing, whether he was there or not.
@stanleylaw107
2 жыл бұрын
Tommy is one of the main reason that the Amigo failed. Stop shilling for that clown, he own, founded and managed the company including hiring the people behind this crap of a console. The guy have zero business sense especially when it comes to starting his own company being involved with a game console.
I was waiting for you to do a video on the Amico! And it was worth every minute, top-notch work 😎
This video seemed less to me like "The untold history of the Intellivision Amico" and more like "The often-told history of the VGS and Doug TenNapel"
@NoGamesPortable
2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. It's really weird, too, because Kennedy and TenNapel have very little to do with this train wreck. The Evercade is a far more direct successor to the Retro VGS than Tallarico's footbath with free-to-play mobile games. TenNapel has almost no involvement with this mess. Tallarico said he would be an unpaid consultant on Earthworm Jim, a game that doesn't seem like it even exists. There's never been any indication he's otherwise part of the Amico team. An EWJ reunion photo from years ago doesn't change that. It's pretty transparent guilt by association and while Tommy has said some inexcusably dumb shit, that has nothing to do with Doug.
@monky7106
2 жыл бұрын
@@NoGamesPortable I noticed a few other comments but they are mostly gone now. **shrug**
@NoGamesPortable
2 жыл бұрын
@@monky7106 I only watched this video today, so I can't say I caught any since deleted comments but I hope you're mistaken. SDR criticizing Tommy and then pulling a Tommy would be crazy.
Late night Strop, Drop, & Retro, don’t mind if I do
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry to keep u up, lol. But I hope it's worth it!
OOOOHHH when we needed him the most... he appears! thank you SDR!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Sure thing! I hope I gave an interesting take on this!!
@DoomDeer
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro dude you blew my mind… the amico fiasco is a deeper rabbit hole than i thouhht holy hell…
I wonder what Mike Kennedy is up to nowadays
Amico's 10 Commandments should have started with Commandment #1 being "You shall not have any other Gods before me (Tommy Tallarico)".
The king has returned!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
and I plan to stay! Need to get working on new content soon
@PKInTheUniverse
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro this is such an informative video, I always learn something new from you. Like I know there was talk originally about re-imagined Intellivision games coming to the Retro VGS back in the day , but I never knew there were plans prior to release them digitally. This is what it should’ve been all along.
I was just seeing if you made a video a week ago, noticed you hadn't uploaded in forever so it's nice to see you upload.
Glad to see a new upload! Also, a bit off topic, but didn't you have a video about Smach Z going bankrupt a year or so ago? I can't find that but could swear I saw it.
@dfkman
2 жыл бұрын
He mentioned it offhand in his Steam Deck anouncennt video
Holy shit, so it's not even a retro console? Those games look horrific.
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
They're also running as Jeremy Parish stated of Micronics, a "Eh, good enough" framerate. Think of it. A console, (whose controllers have no face buttons, mind you) is struggling to run a single screen game.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
It's a retro idea! Specifically retro as in 7 years ago and if Mike Kennedy were a game.
I know you don't monetize your videos but have you considered a Patreon, Buy Me a Coffee or even straight up accepting tips via PayPal? Like, you're one of my favorite creators here and I'd really like to help you more of them, even if it's just a cup of coffee or just a fiver.
Finally new content! I'd say I was getting tired of watching reruns of your library but I'm not sure that's possible.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! I'm trying to work on more content to keep you busy! Thanks again for being a fan
So glad you're back again, I miss seeing regular uploads from you man your content is so good. Congrats on 2m views on your last vid you deserve it.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you bro! That last hardware review was insane! I've got some more interesting stuff on the way so hopefully I can pull those numbers again
I'm sad I will never see my wood grained themed paperweight.
SD&R's back! Some of us saw the real Tommy on AtariAge _way_ before "legal incoming!" and Ars Tech.
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
Some people even saw the real Tommy on IGN. In 2003.
@eforhan
2 жыл бұрын
@@XanthinZarda Some people never heard of Tommy Tallarico before 2018! I even loved MDK back in the day.
Would a casual gamer as they call them in that Fig campaign even buy any kind of console? Or would they just play games on their phones as they had already likely been doing?
We missed you king 🥺
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
thanks bro! I missed you guys more! Glad to be back
@xiao668
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Unsure if I should add a joke about being the only female in your audience or if I should just say it's an honor to be misgendered by my liege
Amazing vid as always Retro, I've probably watched every video of yours like 5 times at this point
I missed these videos. Your voice is still cool AF and relaxing.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
lol, I should start SDR ASMR channel
I'm glad Guantanamo has a "video editing and publishing" program for it's interns, cuz I've missed you mate.i hope you're doing some gains there.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
It's my human right to shitpost even behind bars
Tommy shouldnt have ever been the CEO. He couldnt take the slightest critique, even when it came from dedicated fans of this project and were just trying to help.
We've been blessed once again with amazing content.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
And I've been blessed with your views! Thanks for staying on board
HE HAS RETURNED! man, I know I'm the most random irrelevant account on this website, but just know the dude behind this random irrelevant account absolutely loves your content, and will always be hype for a new video no matter how long it takes
As far as the 10 Commandments. Tommy has said #5 has changed. Now it's "only launch games must be $10 or less."
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
"launch"
@ezg2000
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Yep. Tommy was saying for 3+ years "All Games $10 or less". Now after E3 2021, it's all the launch lineup will be $10 or less. The new CEO phil adam said the price of the 2nd wave will go up 100%. So expect to pay $20 for flash games that only have 20 minutes of gameplay. He also said that the console will go up in price (currently it's $250) to any where for 50% ($375) to 100% ($500). Who in the hell will pay that price for this shovelware?
I feel like I should give some further context into how most of this came into being since I gave Mike the OG concept for Retro Magazine and he spun that up into something bigger. Buuuuuut that’s not the first thing that Mike and I worked on. Waaaaaaay back when, Mike was envisioning a way to disrupt used games sales and guess who was on his advisory board?? Ok me but also Phil Adam lol.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Steve Tom Sawyer! Dude, I’ve heard a lot about you. Hit me up on discord if you want to talk further.
@SteveTomSawyer
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro will do!
Why is it so hard for these IP holders, like the new Atari people, to just make really good plug n plays? We have four main platforms already, there's no room for another mainstream player. The only retro revival brand that's seen success is Evercade because they focused on making good, practical devices focused on preservation that has a desirable appeal to a certain niche instead of focusing on a dead brand alone to sell and support their systems.
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Well to their credit, Atari has been supporting the Legends Ultimate platform from AtGames (A company that actually pulled its head out of its ass, from the looks of it), so there's that.
We need more of your videos! You should do a follow up on some of your old ones like flatev! Glad you are back!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I've actually got some of that in the works!! Stay tuned :D
We all knew this wold end up here... but I'm still sad to see it. Glad you're back.
I feel bad for the people with a bunch of game boxes that will never have a console to go with it
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, that's pretty cool to have a memento like that from a failed campaign. They can just play similar games on a phone anyway.
@XanthinZarda
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro Which reminds me, have you seen the dead startup toys? There's an "art collective" who did a limited run figurines of things like the Coolest Cooler, Jibo, the Juciero, and Theranos.
@devilmingy
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know, when they start fire-saling the remaining stock as individual curios for a few bucks when this thing is fully tits up, I may buy a few as keepsakes. It’ll go nicely next to my Coleco Chameleon and my in-progress Infinium Phantom (still need to add Pepsi to it)
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
@@XanthinZarda oh my god, i need to look that up
I‘d say the whole concept could work if the console was $100. But not like this. And I don’t think the controversial people involved really matter to their target audience of casual gamers. But they will never buy their console, because they already have phones, tablets and probably a Switch. No wonder they couldn’t find traditional investors for this. It makes no sense.
Wtf Christmas in February.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I'll outlive all of these crowdfunding schemes!!
Good to have you back man, worth the wait!
Well, after the kitchenware line from Drew Barrymore, I wouldn’t be surprised if a Beyoncé fridge gets made.
Quote, "one of the greatest hoax consoles of all time". The competition for the title of "greatest hoax" is fierce.
There's nothing wrong with a person having opinions and being honest about em, even as dissonant as said opinions may be. When people are more open about the wild stuff they think it always makes my day better. Makes things infinitely more interesting when people have less filtering in their day to day dialog. Would have never know personally that the earthworm jim dude thought those things otherwise
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
True, people should be open about their wacky opinions. But the problem I have is when they think freedom of speech is freedom from consequences.
@Bee_Tea_Sea
2 жыл бұрын
Someone's views are a thing to be taken into consideration when speaking on them. Shouldn't be something they can be taken down for, maybe the wild things a person says can be something to discredited them for yes, but not nuked like so many have been, and for far less than Doug was Makes me glad I'm nobody some days, that I'll never have to worry about people not liking what I say so much to the point of wanting me totally vaporized
Glad to see you're back, anyways, see you in 7 months.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
see ya then!
the man is back! ^_^ hopefully you are doing well, great video!
Great to see you making videos again, do you have the final chapter of the SmachZ debacle in the works by any chance?
I've been waiting for you to do a video on this dumpster fire for a long time.
"What kind of CEO fights people on Twitter?" Tim Sweeney.
MIKE KENNDEDY?! It's like when a slasher villain comes back for a jumpscare
Just to let you know there is a HUGE similiar between the amico and the coleco chameleon. The new CEO phil adam had a high ranking position with the chameleon. This amico story is stranger than fiction.
@arcticcircle9178
2 жыл бұрын
Retro VGS was the original name for the Coleco Chameleon, though it is interesting to see that Phil Adam is back. ~Cherri
Welcome back. Glad to hear that intro again.
Seeing a console on your channel is the kiss of death for it. I had my deposit refunded months ago. Too many delays, and too many fanatics in the Amico Facebook group calling people assholes for asking questions.
@cyan_2169
2 жыл бұрын
Putting a downpayment on the amico is a bit of a self report lol
Hes back boys, lets goooo
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again!! Hope you enjoy the vid!
@SimisearOfficial
2 жыл бұрын
@@StopDropRetro I am loving it so far, I really hope this exposure bites them back in the ass like the Smach Z did, especially bringing back to life TenNapel being a shithead
I'm glad someone else remembers Intellivision Gen2. Seems like everyone else has forgotten. Frankly, the Gen2 versions of the games look better than the Amico versions, and the Gen2 versions look terrible.
Welcome back. We missed you!
I'm praying that this dude right here buys the steam deck and give us his opinion.
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
I sure did! I wasn't able to get in the first batch though, unfortunately :( But yes, I will review it
you uploaded 2 months ago and somehow yt never notified me :(
I am beside myself with excitement I've been waiting for you to do another video and you end up making one about something I'm actually currently interested in
"Youq dont see other CEOs fightin random people on twitter" oh this aged GREAT
Woah, back from the dead! Awesome to see you again
Stop disappearing😂 good to see you man Happy New year
Was they really expecting someone to put in a $50,000 investment? I would better understand if it was a requirement on fig to have 4 tiers and they just made the other 3 ridiculous just so the first one would look good
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
go big or go home!! [Narrarator voice] Amico went home...
I was just thinking about how I miss this channel and what do you know, a new video!
@StopDropRetro
2 жыл бұрын
You've got the shinning....
An intellevision mini like the other minis would have been a much better option maybe with a usb port that allows it to get updates or something
@jesuszamora6949
2 жыл бұрын
Sad part? The previous owners of the Intellivision brand worked with AtGames to make an Intellivision Flashback. Works well enough, and was a sign of what might have been if Keith Robinson not died in 2017.