The Unrigging of Drag Race UK 4
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To wrap up the coverage of RuPaul's Drag Race UK4, we're going to of course look at how the season should have went if it wasn't rigged. But this time, we have a special guest joining so you get twice the opinions and twice the chaos!
Matthew Belak and I discuss the season, the placements, how we think things should have gone from the comfort of my living room. We go episode by episode and break down all the tea, from Dakota Schiffer's controversial elimination, Baby's crazy journey, Danny Beard and Cheddar Gorgeous' domination of the season. We even spend some time with some queens who didn't get the love they deserved like Copper Topp and Le Fil.
So which one of us is going to have the most accurate track record? Let me know in the comments below!
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I was like “damn nothing to watch” and they this drops. I hope Mayham Miller wins it
@DragDetective
Жыл бұрын
she never loses
@silvercyndaquil8472
Жыл бұрын
@@DragDetective Please do a 'What if Mayhem Miller was on Drag Race UK 4"
@indigobeaumont1246
Жыл бұрын
LMAO
I agree Copper going way farther and basically taking Jonbers spot, but I also see her definitely getting the makeover reset cut based on the look she showed on instagram.
@Syren020
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, none of the makeovers besides Pixie’s were truly *horrible*, and given what we saw on the design challenge, Copper can have some styling issues. So I wouldn’t be surprised for her to be bottom 2, even if her makeover look in a vacuum was good.
dakota for all stars
@DragDetective
Жыл бұрын
WINNER
@greynotchristian
Жыл бұрын
omg can't wait for more boring runways
@Its_Sardonyx
Жыл бұрын
@@greynotchristian lies
@oliverbrydges
Жыл бұрын
@@greynotchristian Dakota solos your drag career
@ThePearlision
Жыл бұрын
Theyre literally over due for an uk all stars
Dakota was the definition of “Robbed”. 2/3 of her bottoms were underserved, she should have placed high for the snatch game and she 100% won that lip sync against Pixie. Also you having Copper in the top 4 is very interesting imo.
@legend3093
Жыл бұрын
It's crazy to me, like when promos dropped when I saw Copper I instantly thought early out for her which ended up being accurate
@LightestKing
Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought copper would've made it pretty far too ngl, Jonbers was the one I was surprised was still there and I'm even more surprised that Matt thought she still would've made it to top 4 without riggory. Jonbers is the textbook example of the early out delusional queen edit.
@puddingth
Жыл бұрын
yes but not dakota winning the ls against pixie 😭 pixie won that fairly
@xviolaa
Жыл бұрын
People think Dakota demolished the lipsync because they liked her and hated Pixie but if you look at it completely unbiased they both just did alright. Dakota stans love shitting on the entire rest of the cast tho so I'm not surprised by this comment in the slightest
This is a pretty interesting way to do the whole "How a non-rigged season would go" video format. I'd love to see you do this with a few other Drag Race creators, including Bussy Queen, Mera Mangle, and a few others. Those could be fun crossovers!
I wish you had thrown together a chart of your final ratings. It would have made it much easier to understand how you guys rated everyone!
Pixie should have definitely been in the bottom for that rainbow look, because if your “Who Are You?” look is a Pride outfit from Wish, that doesn’t sell me on your drag. I could be sold on a LOW placement for Pixie, but she definitely should have been in the bottom three.
@babylonl21
Жыл бұрын
I don't mean to send any hate, but her edit was terrible, like fr, they truly highlighted her as a unbearable queen, and that made feel like not rooting 4 her AT ALL 😭😭
@pietrofattorello
Жыл бұрын
@@babylonl21 i couldnt stand her energy on the show and i was so mad she outlasted dakota lmao, im sure shes lovely IRL but good god it was so exhausting to watch her complain every week AND flop the challenges
@xviolaa
Жыл бұрын
@@pietrofattorello what a groundbreaking opinion
@flippineck2825
Жыл бұрын
@@babylonl21 it wasn't the edit.
@normalizenatalie
Жыл бұрын
i liked it
the way u confidently said pudgey the bear i love that 💀💀 it’s pudsey 🫶🏻
@Mudkip0408
Жыл бұрын
All i can think of is Jonbers saying Pugley 😂
Getting to look at Matt for 44 minutes was lovely
screaming at pudgy the bear - no, it is PUDSEY, with an S lmfao
@_.Idk._
Жыл бұрын
Same 😭
@joescotchman
Жыл бұрын
This made me want to not watch the rest of the video tbh, I can't deal with not even bothering to know what the queens are referencing.
@ConfusedOctopus
Ай бұрын
I knowww he's an icon how could you get it wrong😢
Imagine a season with sminty and fiercalicious
@Chittamama16
Жыл бұрын
They would hate each other i think
@moppupaws
Жыл бұрын
yikes. no thank you. sick of pretty skinny women
Is Pixie the new Mayhem? Edit: Copper is the new Mayhem!
I generally love the snarkiness of the TDD solo videos but you and Matt have great chemistry together!
Justice for Copper and Dakota, this fits my fantasy. Also, I feel like in either of these scenarios Danny's win would feel better since there'd be more peaks and valleys.
In defense of Dakota's first look: it was representing Anne Boleyn and had nothing to do with being a nun. The lingerie aspect at the bottom is a reference to Anne Boleyn's stereotypical reputation of being a seductress which led to Henry VIII divorcing his first wife to marry her and moving England away from Catholicism to allow it. It looked quite simple and small but at least there was meaning to every part of her look, rather than her just taking an image of her and recreating it exactly (as other queens did).
I would put Danny as high in snatch game because, in a non rigged season, Ru wouldn't gaslight queens into thinking that a perfectly fine snatch game choice would put them in the bottom.
Jonbers should not be low in the first episode the look was stunning and it’s litterally made out of part of her history and who she is and a role model who influenced her!!! This is so unimportant but I love this look so much lol!!
Matthew's line was 90% my vibe, I agreed and Derek... Well, there were choices haha
Not hearing PUDGEY THE BEAR AHAHA I’m dead
You have no idea how happy it makes me to see Copper get the credit she deserves here!
I love this new format! I think this is the best way to do these types of videos bc it gives each opinion a point of reference and it leads to actual discussions about what happened, which I think can then produce a more accurate view of the season.
I love that you have another person voicing their opinions in this and that you are both respectful of each other. It makes things seem less one sided.
I loved seeing you guys sit down and talk. It’s quite cool to see you in real life for a change. Love this video ☺️
Yesss more Drag Detective content!! Love your vids, I watch them during my free time at school. So fun
im glad this video happened because u can kind of see how derek almost literally discards what he says not even a few mins before 💀 when matthew put pixie in his bottom for the first ep derek was like ‘i’d rather a look be crafty and a have message behind it than be basic’ and then for the design challenge he wanted peppa and jonbers in the bottom when they quite literally had a concept and message and danny and pixie were uninspired… LOL
Omg Copper top is the new Mayham Miller
Copper top was doin' ALL the work in this fictional world! lol
@coppertopp7556
Жыл бұрын
And I'll show you in the real world to Brian Brian. In the words of Tatiana "What you see, isn't always the truth"
This was an amazing Collaboration! I loved to watch them together!🤩🥰💖
As copper topp's defense attorney 💀💀
I'm dying at how you two are saying Pudsey 😂
Glad to see two of my fav content creators collab love this u need to do this more!!!! ♥️
You two have a great, chaotic chemistry :D I enjoy the usual format a bit more though 💖
Can’t wait for All Stars 12 where guest judge Derek double crowns Copper Top and Mayhem Miller
@chuziano9974
8 ай бұрын
and then Scarlet Envy is runner up
Loved this way of doing riggory (or un-riggory)! Would love to see more in the future- and maybe even you redoing previous seasons you’ve done before with other people!
pixies rainbow look showed who she was...? girl she had the opposite of positive energy the entire season 💀
@hansbauer5997
Жыл бұрын
Was the only outfit i immediately thought that would be bottom 2. Like the concept is cute, but the execution just gave sky diaper realness.
@helena4440
Жыл бұрын
"I'm gay" congratulations so is everyone else lmao
@LJNorthey
Жыл бұрын
@@helena4440 She's coming for Joey Jay's brand..😮
@jackh7889
Жыл бұрын
Guys she from Brighton which I don't think you realised
Please do this style more often it was such a fun listen!!
0:34 I love the u's participation Jokes aside, love ur videos so much, would love to see a full on season producted by you. Hello, WOW??
do a excel chart or something with all the placements for this alternative rollout of the season!!
I feel like Matt names dropped Bussy Queen and I just need the tea behind the “we’re editing that out” since I ya obviously there lol.
@xviolaa
Жыл бұрын
Sounded like he said U so I'm assuming he meant the channel of the same name, he goes in depth analysing laugh counts too
@heyitscj7726
Жыл бұрын
@@xviolaa Yeah he said U. Basically U used to claim that Drag Detective stole his content/ideas, and demanded to get credit
This was a lot of fun! And my tops and bottoms are completely different than both of yours but with Danny winning still each time. I think if there was no Sasha Velor Cheddar's chances could have inched closer to a win. But Danny is different than any other Queen that's ever been crowned in any franchise.
YASSSS THE CROSSOVER WE NEEDED
I LOVED THIS VIDEO FORMAT SO MUCHHH! Great job and interesting tastes lol
GREAT breakdown! Would have loved to see either of your seasons! I think they would have been a way more entertaining show and definitely more fair. But where’s the link for Matthew’s channel! I wanna subscribe dammit! 🤣🤣
I've never clicked so damn FAST on any video!!! I LOV UUU ❣️ your videos are so good
This was fantastic!! I would've loved to have seen more from Copper and they did our sweet girl Dakota so wrong on that makeover judging. Would love to see a Drag Detective x Mera Mangle crossover in the Drag Race KZread Cinematic Universe!! You, Matthew, and Mera can start the Drag Race Commentary Avengers Midwest lol
Well, I’ll just say this was interesting :) I made my own version of this as I usually do, so I’ll share. Episode 1: I still have Black Peppa winning but I nearly gave Sminty Drop the win (I thought her BBC look was the best of the night, but for me the Ru are you look is the more important one, and I preferred Peppa in that category. I put Cheddar Gorgeous as high, I thought both of her looks were very unique, and showed us who she is and the transformations between her looks. For the bottom, I had Just May and Pixie Polite in the bottom 2, with Dakota Schiffer as low. For me, Pixie didn’t do that bad but I think compared to everyone apart from May, she was the weakest. But the lipsync result is the same, Just May still goes home first. Episode 2: Originally I kept it as 2 teams, but I think splitting it into 3 makes more sense now. If we’re judging by teams, Cheddar, Dakota, Danny and Le Fil all win, but individually it would be Baby, I think in this case, judging individually is fairer. For the bottom 3, it’s the same queens but I actually saved Jonbers and put Sminty in the bottom with Starlet. I think Sminty to me struggled more with the performance as a whole, whilst Jonbers only struggled with her words. But either way, Starlet is going home so not much changes. Episode 3: I gave the win to Sminty and Le Fil here, for me they had the most cohesive looks, which were different enough from each other but still looked like they were from the same fashion line. Baby and Dakota will definitely be high though. Cheddar and Copper will be safe, I think overall, whilst Copper had a couple of issues, it wasn’t bad enough to warrant a bottom placement for me. Danny and Pixie are going to be low, so Jonbers and Peppa are in the bottom. I think this would be a pretty close lipsync, but Jonbers would go home. Episode 4: Danny wins here, but I almost gave a double win to her and Pixie. Cheddar is still in the top for me, I think between her, Copper and Dakota I think Cheddar would still do the best, but by a very small margin, Copper could easily be in the top too. The bottom 3 is the same as the original season, Le Fil is low, Baby and Sminty lipsync, Sminty is sent home. Episode 5: I also thought this episode had no business having a bottom 2, so I had a top 2 of Danny and Le Fil, with Cheddar, Copper and Pixie as high. Everyone else is safe, and I don’t think Baby would actually quit here, so we move into snatch game with 8 queens left. Episode 6: Cheddar is definitely winning, to me she was the only one who actually made me laugh besides Dakota, who’s going to be in the top with Copper. I put Danny as safe along with Pixie, I think Baby would be low, Le Fil and Peppa would lipsync, but I think at this point Baby would quit, since she nearly lipsynced again I think here is the point where she would realise she needs to take care of herself. But if she didn’t I actually would have sent Peppa home, I think in that lipsync, she was doing wayyy too much, whilst Le Fil, even though they were a bit messy, matched the energy of the song way better. Episode 7: Cheddar is still winning the makeover, Danny would be in the top along with Le Fil. I originally put Copper in the bottom here but after seeing her actual look, she’s definitely safe for me. Pixie is in the bottom regardless, and I had a really tough time choosing between Dakota and Peppa. I think even though I personally didn’t like Dakota’s makeover, there were more issues with Peppa’s, so in this scenario, Black Peppa goes home. Episode 8: I was torn between Cheddar and Danny originally, but I actually think Copper could win here, so she will get her first win. Cheddar and Danny are high, I honestly thought Cheddar did really well I don’t get the hate for her performance at all. Le Fil would be safe I think, since they don’t have to improvise here, I think they would do ok. This leaves Dakota and Pixie in the bottom, and to this song, I think Pixie would put up a good fight, but Dakota would win, and Pixie sashays away. Episode 9: Danny is definitely winning the roast, but I had no idea where to go from here. Copper I think would be high, and Dakota would be in the bottom. Between Cheddar and Le Fil, I think even though Cheddar’s humour is more my style, it doesn’t go very well in a roast, whilst I think Le Fil could definitely get a few laughs. So Cheddar lipsyncs with Dakota, and with this song, this is much more in Cheddar’s wheelhouse, I think Dakota would honestly flop this song pretty hard, and would go home before the finale. Finale: Personally I think having a top 2 was wrong, they should have done what they did on uk 2 and have a top 3, which is what I’ll do. I think Le Fil would sadly be cut, since they only had one win and it was shared (even though she had the best look of that whole episode). This means Cheddar, Copper and Danny all lipsync for the crown, but I don’t see any situation where Danny wouldn’t win, she was absolutely deserving of the crown, and she dominated pretty much the whole competition. Even though I was team Cheddar I was so happy to see Danny Beard win. So my version was probably very different to a lot of people’s out there, hope you all enjoyed though :)
This is a cool video, but if you do it in this format again, it could be good to put little placement markers over them, or move the eliminated girls to the last spot on the list. Other than that, this video is pretty good !!
The talk about Copper’s makeover look got me thinking…. so I understand the fact that queens need to have, and showcase, their ‘brand’ but I also kinda hate when queens get critiqued in a good look merely because people don’t think it suits their typical drag aesthetic… I think queens should be able to branch out and have vividly different looks & take elements from different drag aesthetics however they please without being pigeonholed into one aesthetic and being penalised if they stray from what everyone has come to expect from them. I know if I did drag- I wouldn’t necessarily want to just commit to one drag aesthetic. Great video though you guys should do more videos together! ❤️
Its Pudsey hahaha lmao love this :)
Ok, I didn't know I needed Matt Belak youtube content until I received it.
i love this video format!! more of this!!
“Not you turning into ucky” LOL
This is evidential proof that producers just hated Copper. She would've made the final if she hadn't been thrown in the bottom week 3. She can sing, dance, act, do improv, she's in a sort of girl group (the Saturgays, they lipsync but use hairbrushes as microphones which is fun, anyway beyond my point) like I reckon production thought she'd be a rival to Danny, but cos Danny and pixie were forming a friendship, they thought "ooh, storyline" and cos they didn't want copper doing improv, acting or rusicals cos they knew she'd rival production fave Danny (tho Danny did slay I'm not taking that away from them in any way) and that copper wouldn't faulter in any other challenge other than design, and jonbers was heavily favoured by Ru keeping her out the bottom that week, copper was a casualty of both those factors.
Thanks for entertaining me this Friday evening
I love seeing your face!! Great collab
Can I just say that if you’re not from the UK you will not understand how good and how much I love pixies bbc look
@jackbutler6606
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I kinda got the feeling their judging of episode 1 was very arseways, like Pixie as Del Boy is great if you get the joke (personally I loved Copper's too but I'm a Julie Walters fan) but them saying it was bad by comparing it to Sminty of all people was missing the forest for the trees, they're serving two different styles and should be judged accordingly
@SamR1995
Жыл бұрын
100% agreed, I get the critique of the second look but the Del Boy look was on point and not deserving of the bottom 2/3.
@jackbutler6606
Жыл бұрын
@@SamR1995 the critique of Dakotas Anne Boleyn was poor as well, not getting the reference is a them problem
@SamR1995
Жыл бұрын
@@jackbutler6606 Tbf I thought Dakota’s Anne Boleyn was pretty poor. It was fine but simple and not a strong enough reference. Can understand that it may have been one of her favourite shows growing up but there’s so many more inspired ideas that she could’ve come up with. That plus her second look made it make complete sense why she was in the bottom no question.
@jackbutler6606
Жыл бұрын
@@SamR1995 I mean I agree from that angle, like I adored HH but I only half-got it, but they seemed to be coming from the angle of "I don't get the reference and therefore it's not good" without really trying to get it, which has been an issue on the other Anglosphere international seasons anyway
Pudgy the bear 😂😂 made me laugh, fyi it’s pudsey ❤ love you videos x
The way i had to watch the whole video twice cause the first time i couldn't take my eyes off of Matthew 😅 👉🏻👈🏻 he's so charming and cuteee, i can't hshshs 💖😤💖😤💖😤
loved this, love you both!
It's Pudsey not Pudgy 💀
I really hope you do the riggory of down under s2!
Yay, something light and breezy for the evening
Tbh in shocked at how much I agreed with Mathew
Declan and Mark did a good job with this video, I enjoyed it.
So glad Copper was well redeemed here!
Please put this entire cast on an all stars they deserve to be on a better season
i don’t think baby would quit because it was mostly the anxiety of being badly critiqued, especially with the high placement and the girl group win given
this whole video is bottom on bottom crime
Dakota's first look was Anne Boleyn, the second wife of Henry VIII. She should've had a reveal AND been carrying her own head.
The video was cool and the back and worth between you and Matthew was really nice, but I gotta say something. I’m really tolerant with opinions because I know everybody’s got preferences, but honestly, to me, everyone who really thinks that Peppa and Jonbers were not the worst team in the design challenge lives in total denial. Peppa’s look was falling apart to the point that almost her entire chest was exposed and the rest of the outfit was also not well made. Jonbers was definitely better, but also hers lacked the execution. Yes, Pixie and Danny’s looks were boring and yes Cheddar totally outshined Copper, but Peppa and Jonbers bombed. Saying that they shouldn’t have been the bottom two kinda showcases the skinny fashion queen privilege for me. This is really nothing against Matthew, but I just had to say it.
Copper Top going to the end fits in my fantasy also and I think mine is closer to Derek's
Dakota for All Stars Also... I'm sorry, I thought baby's runway for the girl group challenge was absolutely hideous
Dakota’s first look was Anne Boleyn!
I can't believe I live in a world where the drag detective is using correct grammar in video titles
There is no doubt in my mind y’all had a keikei after this was filmed lmao 😂🤣
We love this multiverse crossover inside the multiverse
Here We Go!!
omg the sass when he said “how it should have ~went~” ☠️☠️
And they were roommates
Omg, did Drag Race write that little skit you did in the intro? Compelling
I do NOT see all the positivity around the Rusical episode lmao like for me, it’s still VERY obvious that Dakota and Baby were the worst 2 (even if they weren’t terrible). I think Le Fil taking the low spot in the original was the crime, but I clearly would have still put the other 2 as bottoms.
Love this. Do it again!
Peppa should have gone home way before the end unfortunately she kind of just bottomed
Episode 1 - BBC Ball Winner: Black Peppa Elim: Just May Episode 2 - Girl Groups Winner: Baby Elim: Jonbers Blonde Episode 3 - Design Winner: Dakota Schiffer & Baby Elim: Starlet Episode 4 - Improv Winner: Danny Beard Elim: Sminty Drop Episode 5 - Rusical Winner: Danny Beard Quit: Baby Episode 6 - Snatch Game Winner: Cheddar Gorgeous Elim: Le Fil Episode 7 - Makeover Winner: Cheddar Gorgeous Elim: Copper Topp Episode 8 - Acting Winner: Danny Beard Elim: Dakota Schiffer Episode 9 - Roast Winner: Danny Beard Elim: Pixie Polite TOP 3 Danny Beard Cheddar Gorgeous Black Peppa
love the stanning of copper and Dakota!
I did not see jonbers and pixie going that far honestly I saw Dakota going further
Ok good, my fantasies are still here. Dakota in the finale and Jonbers having a win. And Danny still winning. NICE! 🥳
This is a really fun format change
I’m usually pretty on board with your opinions but this is truly the first time I am just shocked and completely disagree with the ladder half of the season haha
Idk drag detective, I think if baby won the second episode as well and wasn’t in the bottom on the rusical she probably would have been more confident and she would have stayed
I agreed with Peppa losing the lipsync to Jonbers - most of them, actually. She can do a lot of stunts, which I LOVE, but I don't think she times them right. A little bit of coaching and preparation, she would be the lipsync assassin the show painted her as, in MY universe, of course. Give her love if you disagree with me :P
25:34 I really wanna know what that bleep is!
My judging of this season was like WAY different💀
Pudgy the bear got me 😂its pudsy
loving this collab
Giggled at “pudgy” the bear
i def think danny ate the whole competition and deserved to win i just was genuinely surprised they didn’t give it to cheddar in the end knowing how they’ve picked winners in the past and the common stereotype of “filling different roles” of queens in the hall of fame. the uk is known for their comedy queens and they showed that the uk can also have glamor and fashion with krystal’s win so i really was surprised that they didn’t jump at the opportunity to have the more alien-like character like cheddar in the hall of fame. not to mention how cheddar was getting the “legend edit” basically the whole season, making it seem like they were setting her up for a long-time-coming crown. honestly if it weren’t for the fact that danny being a bearded queen was seen as such a big new thing on drag race i don’t think production would’ve actually given her the crown (like she obviously showed she deserves!!) but now we have a bearded queen in the hall of fame !! kinda crazy when u think about it tbh
Loved this analysis, would love to see this for the mess that was UK 3 and CDR Season 1 If anything, you two are better judges than Ru
I wasn't interested in a throuple until I saw Derek and Matthew
I feel like a lot of the fan base puts Danny and pixie placed lower than what they should be. When critiquing runways and stuff I always end up with the same conclusion. If they were skinny people would love them
@xviolaa
Жыл бұрын
I've always said that if Pixie looked like Sminty people would be fully okay with her lasting as long as she did