Pat Pheonix was the Elizabeth Taylor of the working classes!

@mariaevans5793

2 жыл бұрын

Well said!!🇬🇧☺️

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Very true, Pat had a glamour that was authentic and mesmerising!

@mariaevans5793

2 жыл бұрын

@@glamdolly30 true!!!

@ZadenZane

Жыл бұрын

Elizabeth Taylor was the Elizabeth Taylor of the working classes, know what I mean. You wouldn't exactly mistake her for royalty. I wish Pat Phoenix hadn't died so early. She could have taken over the Rovers and been Jack and Vera's boss!

@grahamblack1961

4 ай бұрын

@@ZadenZaneElizabeth Taylor was from a wealthy family and was educated at a private school. Not royalty but hardly working class either.

Pat opened a Marks & Spencer in Dublin in the early 80s - over 15,000 people turned out to see her. She was SO famous it's hard to fathom in these days of 10-a-penny celebs...

@WhiteHorseOfKilburn

Жыл бұрын

No ones famous

I can see my Grandma now sitting on the arm chair turned to the side watching her rented black and white rediffusion TV, she lived for this twice a week, half hour soap opera!

What Pat says at 7:19 is so sad yet so motivating at the same time the way she says "get up and fight" is so brilliant. I adore Pat and what she said there was just so sad yet she said it with such confidence. What a lady! What class.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed - when Pat signed autographs she would often write 'Keep fighting!' it was her mantra for life, and my God that lady was a fighter, winning fame at 40 - just when she thought her acting ambitions were domed to failure. Someone should write a really well researched book on Pat's life story, she was a remarkable, inspirational human being possessed of great charisma, and still loved and missed by so many.

I loved Elsie Tanner! A hard exterior to the world, but a soft caring heart on the inside.

Absolutely a wonderful lady RIP pat

Quite frankly the greatest actress that ever graced British tv!!! Not only amazingly talented but incredibly charismatic!!! As beautiful as she was dedicated to making her character so realistic & incredibly memorable.... she will always be my all time favourite icon!!! She said she wasn’t a great actress... well Pat, I truly believe you were!!! Nobody since on Coronation Street has come close.💖⭐️

@glamdolly30

4 жыл бұрын

I agree 200% there is no one on the cast to match Pat Phoenix' magic, then or now. I stopped watching the street around 5 years ago when it was all about rape, murder, prostitution and every grubby thing you can think of. All the heart and humour has gone out of the show. If I want to be depressed I'll watch the news thanks! RIP Pat, the shining light of the Coronation Street's long-past glory years.

@davidhodgson2025

4 жыл бұрын

Period.

@mikehudson8884

2 жыл бұрын

The best years were the mid to late 70s when Elsie came back and Suzie and Gail lived with her...As a little boy I waited patiently for those scenes, it was like a situation comedy, the interaction of the three of them was classic. Just imagine the spin-off show !!

@dianestahr4421

2 жыл бұрын

I watched show back in the sixties. Loved it.

@Tidybitz

Жыл бұрын

@@davidhodgson2025 ... 'Full stop'

She coloured my childhood. Amazing actress and gentlewoman.

Rest in peace Pat Phoenix you were fab 🙏❤️

@peterdean8009

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's a scandal that Tony Booth shed crocodile tears but then spared *every* expense with her grave. Prepare to be disgusted. www.foundagrave.com/grave/patricia-phoenix/

For many fans, Pat sprinkled her own bit of Hollywood northern style onto Elsie Tanner. Even on the talk shows she looked smart and enjoyed the attention of it all. I think there is something charming about it. Coronation Street back in the 1960s and 1970s was living it's best moments some may say. Pat was part of that. I can appreciate that the public fondly remembers her.

@woohooboy

3 жыл бұрын

She was undoubtably one of the most well known actresses on British television during this era. There wasn't person in the country who didn't know her. "Corrie" was the number one show in England and she was the biggest female star of the series. For many people, she was "Corrie"

@absoluteacw

3 жыл бұрын

@@woohooboy Yes, Coronation Street was having it's best moments in that era with Pat as Elsie. When they appeared on say a chat show it was such an event. Much of the public and the fans couldn't believe they had a real life. Quite sweet really.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

@@absoluteacw 'Coronation Street' had its heyday from 1976-1984 in my view, ie the second coming of Elsie Tanner. That was when the show had the finest cast members, wonderful actors and actresses almost without exception, and a terrific team of scriptwriters. After Elsie's departure in '84 it kept going with high standards thanks to stars like Jean Alexander as Hilda, Julie Goodyear (Bet), Roy Barraclough (Alec), Brian Mosley (Alf) etc, who managed to keep the flame burning pretty well into the nineties. In its prime, the show was bursting with heart, humour and humanity. Alas its glory years are long gone - pretty much over in the late 90s, with the arrival of the ghastly, crude and unlovable Battersby family. Their arrival heralded the beginning of the end of this once superb TV drama. Corrie got caught up in a tabloid newspaper fuelled ratings war with the BBC's far grittier (and inferior) London based 'EastEnders', and then we saw heart and humour go out of Corrie, and dark stories of violent crime and tragedy come in. The Street went from feelgood entertainment to crime thriller territory - and its old magic was lost forever. Nothing good lasts forever, and to my mind what is transmitted today under the title 'Coronation Street' is not even a pale imitation of its authentic past and best version. But I'm grateful - and amazed - it kept standards so high for almost 40 years, and that we can still enjoy the best, vintage episodes thanks to heroes who upload them to YT for us.

Absolutely love pat phoenix such a classy legend of a woman 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

@koamarco2366

2 жыл бұрын

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@laytonfranco967

2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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@koamarco2366

2 жыл бұрын

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2 жыл бұрын

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Beautiful lady. Enjoying watching the early shows

I could actually watch corrie in those days

@stevencorder36

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah me too cant watch it now though with all those phoney actors

@Sawrattan

2 жыл бұрын

I went off it in the early 2010s. If it used to focus too much on elderly characters, now it focuses too much on glamorous young characters.

I was too young to see Pat Phoenix in action. I only have the clips on YT. What a force of nature.

Wonderful actresses. 60 smokes a day ensured that she left us way too soon.

@davidhodgson2025

4 жыл бұрын

James Henderson 65 isn’t elderly

@Keithbarber

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidhodgson2025 he meant smoking cigarettes- 60 a day, not her age

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

True - Pat died at just 62 of lung cancer, yet the equally heavy smoker Julie Goodyear, aka Bet Gilroy, is still with us at 80. Life is a lottery - and it sure ain't fair!

She was simply amazing a very nice person and a brilliant actress

She was the first crush I had as a boy living on a farm in East Yorkshire. One of the first TV programmes I watched. Or, rather, my parents watched. Way back then in black and white. Never missed an episode. Lovely women sadly missed.

Pat was Corrie best actress in the show by for sadly missed

I remember when I had almost finished High School Pat came to Worksop to open something or other (1968 or 1969) and I went to see her. She was hours late but was very glamorous 🥰

One thing that strikes me about Pat Phoenix is how talented and real she was, Julie Goodyear has tried very hard to be the new Pat Phoenix but i can’t see Pat doing reality tv shows and becoming a camp parody of herself, I love both actresses but Pat Phoenix will always have a soft spot

@davidhodgson2025

4 жыл бұрын

Julie lives her life trying to be ‘bet especially the past 20 years or so

@andyrob3259

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Julian Goodyear - she looks more and more like she could star as a drag act in Soho every year.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, Pat Phoenix was and always will be a far higher quality actress and woman than Julie Goodyear. You're right, as she aged Julie desperately clung to the Bet Lynch image - big hair, big earrings, and everything leopard print. She totally parodied the once authentic Bet character, and turned it into a crazily over the top Widow Twankey - off Coronation Street as well as on! It was very different with Pat Phoenix. From day one of 'Coronation Street', Pat put so much of her true self into the character of Elsie Tanner, even her best friends said it was hard to see where Pat ended and Elsie began! That's why the public took Elsie to their hearts - she was so real. Even the clothes Elsie wore were Pat's own chosen outfits, and worn both for the character and for her life off screen, bought from an upmarket second hand Manchester designer clothes shop she adored and frequented constantly. Julie Goodyear however was never much like the character of Bet that for many years she performed so brilliantly. In fact they were two very different personalities. But as Bet became Rovers landlady and one of the Street's biggest stars, Julie began to cling to Bet's flamboyant glamour and exaggerate it. Even when 'playing' herself on chat/reality shows and personal appearances she began wearing Bet's huge, bad taste earrings (two big bird cages swinging from her lobes spring to mind), towering wigs and clashing animal prints. It was very 'panto season'/Blackpool drag act! It seems to me, unlike her predecessor Pat Phoenix, Julie didn't have an engaging personality or huge personal charisma of her own - and as she aged and her sex appeal faded, this became more and more obvious. So she borrowed from the character of Bet more and more heavily to prop up her fading physical appeal. When Bet returned to the Street in the early 2000s for a crazy (and improbable) storyline in Blackpool, involving her marrying brewery boss Cecil Newton, she had gone so far over the top with her appearance she looked utterly ridiculous. I cannot imagine the great Pat Phoenix ever having to parody the character of Elsie like that, had she enjoyed the privilege of growing older. She was far too good an actress, with too much natural charisma, to need such desperate tricks. I feel sure Pat would have been drawn back to the soap once or twice - even just for cameo appearances - Elsie was such a popular creation. Sadly we'll never know. Pat and Julie were both lifelong heavy smokers, a terrible habit which killed Pat at 62, while Julie is still with us at 80. No one said life was fair!

@ltj18taylor73

2 жыл бұрын

Julie Goodyear is nasty from the inside

@MultiKs22

8 ай бұрын

@@glamdolly30 yes well said you wrote you very well on your assessment of pat phoenix rip and Julie Goodyear. as both actresses and their on screen attire .. but there is one thing pat never dyed her hair ridiculous like Julie Goodyear use to with those wigs bun attached on their real hair and those long earrings and those long pearl necklaces hanging down over the front of her frocks. i remember one time actor Dave Daker as in his role as sexy Gordon Lewis or maybe it might have being dories speed in a storyline said to bet if one of those beards should tangle in to someone's pint class. I don't think that customer would be two pleased. do you. maybe if might be him or it could have being Doris speed.

Elsie is a universal star here ❤❤❤in New Zealand

A gorgeous genuine person to know. Rare today. I remember Elite Dress agency . I was just about to throw away an outrageous overcoat away I bought there. I will take it out of the bag. Might have already chucked it.

God bless, Pat! X

I remember when pat walked into a shop where a group of us were,one of us walked up to her and we all walked over and spoke to her,she was on holiday, couldn't believe it was her.

"In everything she did, she was passionate". What a lovely epitaph!

@karenburke56

7 жыл бұрын

glamdolly20 i

@mikehudson8884

Жыл бұрын

I found this posted recently, not sure if you've seen this compilation....kzread.info/dash/bejne/lKCH0a2NZJC4aNI.html

@glamdolly30

Жыл бұрын

@@mikehudson8884 I haven't Mike - I had no idea it existed. Watching it now, it's wonderful, a real labour of love for the great lady. Very grateful to you for the heads-up, God bless you! XXX

Great actress .

She was so beautiful-I wasn't watching Corrie at the time Elsie was a character, but I've seen some of those old episodes and she was amazing. Great character, great actress.

She ruled!

Absolutely loved her and I love Tony Warren. Thank you for corrie ❤

When coronation street was great, rest in peace dear pat,🌹🌹🌹🌹

So glad I watched this, what an actress 👍👍

She was Coronation Street.

@skygazer6898

4 жыл бұрын

agnesbutterbun Maggie Jones who played Blanche was one of the best female actresses on Coronation street.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, many people feel Elsie Tanner brought immense charm and magic to 'Coronation Street' and was a major reason it took off lightning fast from its 1960 launch, and stayed at the top for the next 24 years she was in it (with a few year's break in the early 'seventies). Elsie Tanner brought a wonderful authentic working class glamour to the show. She was so real, yet also larger than life with it - a movie star living in a terraced house!

Met her in Blackpool backstage after a play (lamplight i think?) when i was a little boy (around 9 0r 10). She was so lovely to me and made me feel special, asking lots of questions. Such a gift in itself. Always fond memories of Pat.

@glamdolly30

8 жыл бұрын

+Joe Lowe Wow what a special memory! That will have been her tour of 'Gaslight' which I believe co-starred her then husband on and off screen, Alan Browning. Lucky you! Thanks for sharing. X

@mollycherfan4266

8 жыл бұрын

you lucky duck

@charlottecole5281

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Lowe she was amazing in corrie the golden era of corrie compared to now

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

@@cBearTV- It's a famous stage play called 'Gaslight', also made into a popular movie many years ago. It's about a husband who psychologically tortures his wife and tries to make her think she's going mad by turning the lights in the house up and down without her knowledge, hence the title 'Gaslight' and the modern phrase 'to gaslight' someone.

LOVED PAT AS ELSIE I MISS HILDA AND HER IN CORRIE

@dionknight216

3 жыл бұрын

Ena, Blanche and Deirdre too!

She visited my village Uley in Gloucestershire in 1962 xxxx

Wow,remember watching the first episode with my mum........👩‍👦

This lady was my icon what a woman

Just gorgeous.

I met and shook hands with Pat in the Green Room at the 25th anniversary of Coronation Street. Pat was the greeter for the soiree. I thought she was a really nice person.

@glamdolly30

4 жыл бұрын

She attended after leaving the series in 1984 (the 25th anniversary was 1985)? That surprises me.

@binarybox.binarybox

3 жыл бұрын

@@nicolemelnyk152 Wiki says:- Coronation Street is a British soap opera created by Granada Television and shown on ITV since 9 December 1960. Hence the 25th anniversary would have been 1985. She died on September 17, 1986.

I loved pat phenix especially when she was with ena sharples r.i.p.pat phenix and violet carson both fantastic

@stephendunnoi567

6 жыл бұрын

Sarah Pogue she wasn’t ena sharples. She was Elsie tanner

@MultiKs22

4 жыл бұрын

Stephen Dunno 1 I think you misinterpreted what Sarah Pogue stated was when pat phoenix and violet Carson worked alongside each other on screen doing scenes together. not the other way round duplicating pat phoenix as ena sharples

@mikehudson8884

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephendunnoi567 Your statement does not make any sense!

Today would have been Pat Pheonix 100th Birthday, Happy Birthday

Elsie Tanner ties with Vera Duckworth as my favourite Coronation Street character of all time. She left for the last time when I was ten; she died when I was fourteen. I wish she could have stayed on for longer.

gone but never forgotten

Even after all these years, pat's magic still exists. She was such a sparky, back street broad that exuded stardom from within. Absolutely fabulous! ❤

I Have Pat Phoenix Autograph When She Came To My Hometown To Open The Showboat Back In The Early 80's.....Such A Beautiful And Talented Actress.

love Pat Phoenix watch February 1978 it is brilliant

@glamdolly30

8 жыл бұрын

+Molly Meehan The infamous pigeons in the roof storyline? Fantastic, that's one of my favourites too (best bit when Elsie bodily removes Hilda from her house, after Hilda called her 'Len Fairclough's fancy piece'!) Love Pat Phoenix, a star on and off screen - as someone who met her has confirmed here. I am very envious, would have loved to have met the great lady! X

@mollycherfan4266

8 жыл бұрын

Anyone who meet the unforgettable Patricia Phoenix should be honoured they meet her

@mollycherfan4266

8 жыл бұрын

+glamdolly20 that scene when she was called Len Fairclough "fancy women" is hilarious

@mikehudson8884

2 жыл бұрын

@@glamdolly30 MIne too, I love watching the old episodes, reminds me of my youth and I always find myself winding the tape on to the scenes with Miss Phoenix in.

I will always love her ❤️

I know many fans won't like comparisons made, but as a younger viewer I can't help comparing her a little bit to Carla today, always very sharply glamorous with a messy love life, string of failed relationships and business-savvy.

Elsie tanner was and is the best actress on coronation streetvshe was absolutely fabulous ❤

Pat phoenix was really talented. She smoked 60 cigarettes a day and died young at 62 a short while after being married❤

Pat Phoenix knew her days as "Queen Bee" on Corrie were drawing to a close. By the time she left, she was 60 years of age and the younger actresses on the show such as Barbara Knox, Julie Goodyear, Anne Kirkbride and Gail Worth were getting the plum roles as the writers were leaning heavily into these women. Phoenix but comparison was already being moved from leading parts to mentoring roles on Corrie (Elsie was playing a mother figure to Gail and Suzie) and not wanting to be anything less than a leading lady, chose to segway out of the series.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

I think the writers failed to make the best use of Pat Phoenix and let her down. Elsie was one of the show's biggest and most beloved stars - she deserved better storylines. Women viewers in particular loved her glamour, which only got more potent and fascinating as she aged. She was a big hit when she returned in 1976 and worked first at the ladies clothes shop, then back at the factory with her sparring partners Mike, Vera and Ivy, then at the cafe with Gail. But it seems to me the writers lacked imagination for a single woman of a certain age - all they did was give her a series of disastrous, short-lived romances with unsuitable men. The exception to that was the lovely Irish actor who played her taxi boyfriend Ron Mather for a while, but he was eventually written out. I thought they made a smashing couple, and he was that all too rare thing in Corrie - an attractive older man! Why couldn't Elsie and Ron have married, or even got Hilda's hackles up by living in sin at her house? It could have given Elsie a whole new lease of life, and could have enthused her to stay in the show (though tragically Pat would die of lung cancer in 1986, at just 62). I far preferred Elsie's character to Rita's who she was often compared to as another middle aged, fire-cracker redhead. But while Rita relied on her marriage to Len (and later other men) for her identity, Elsie was fundamentally independent and always very much her own woman - even when she was in a relationship. I think that's why female viewers loved her, she was a strong older woman who only grew stronger and more magnetic with the years. The storylines she was given should have reflected that - but they started to insult her with tawdry tales of one night stands gone wrong etc. Elsie - and Pat - deserved better!

Before Coronation Street she played principal boy in a pantomime I was in and somewhere I have the photo .She was a great principal boy.

I met her many Times in our towns Annual carnival one day her her Mercedes broke down she helped to push it

Real and a Star🌠

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Amen, Pat Phoenix was magical!

Cherie Blair's stepmother! Who'd have guessed!

35 years ago, Queen x

She showed them ❤❤

She was lrish the best of allbtime

She was absolutely 💯 brilliant as Elsie Tanner. So powerful as a character.

I was a teenager in the sixties and she was my 'older woman fantasy'

@glamdolly30

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, yours and a few million other guys'!

She was a wonder woman xx🌹🌟😻xx

Great actress 👏 👍

Elsie and Rita could be sisters.

Best looking and like all irish back from no one

pat did a stand up night in my local workng mens club the famly room as it was known as it had snooker room bar held 150 folks for snooker league games or darts league ,hada small kids room the doors opened up to a back garden and swings ,a slide and a roundabout ,and climbing frame plus a rockface wall, a main room for top acts and bingo,comics and live music could hold 280 sitting 350 standing ,pat did a saturday night stand up ,a bit of comedy and stories ,she had time for everyone who went to her changeing room and when she left ,she was wonderfull,i was a 15 year old boy who worked as a glass collector in the main room ,was great easy work got to see acts for free ,and saturday afternoon was drag act with strippers and comics ,likes of lenny henry ,jimmy tarbuk jasper carrot ,les dawson ,bob monkhouse ,a young robbie coltrane ,dave allen ,frank carson, jethro copy called tommy dales and loads of others and bands

Love this Lady ❤️❤️

Well of course Coronation Street was going to take off to the moon with Pat Phoenix at the helm. She had the X Factor. Absolute star quality.

Brilliant

21yrs. when people had ACTUAL WORTHWHILE JOBS! AND PAYCHECKS.

That producer said she did not have great acting ability! Excuse me! What planet is he on! I also felt a lot who spoke seemed to be quite cynical about her suggesting she was interested in just being a Star.

@paigeleigh2554

3 жыл бұрын

Well said!

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, there's definitely some snobbery about Pat by some because she was a working class woman with ambition - I think she encountered this in life too. Well she WAS and she IS a star, and no one can ever take that away from her - and what's more, she worked bloody hard for it! Pat was 37 years old when the role of a lifetime found her, with the 1960 launch of brand new ITV drama 'Coronation Street'. Suddenly overnight she was a huge star in the UK, recognised everywhere she went. She deserved it, she'd more than done her apprenticeship as a poverty stricken actress in rep, travelling the country staying in cruddy boarding houses just to appear in small, provincial theatre productions with other unknowns. She wrote about those tough years in her memoirs - she and the other actors would be performing one play every night, while learning their lines for the next one they'd be doing. And often they learned their lines by candlelight, as battleaxe landladies would turn off the electricity at 9pm! Pat was an immediate hit with viewers, who took Elsie Tanner to their hearts. Tony Warren could have written the role for her - at her audition he immediately recognised she was perfect for Elsie. She initially wore padding, and the make up artists aged her up to look matronly. Elsie was supposed to be a clapped out, middle aged single mum. But Pat loved glamour, so she secretly slimmed down, and by the mid 'sixties had transformed into the Street siren in pencil skirts, high heels and high hairdo! She was magic onscreen - she just had that indefinable charisma and sparkle that makes you look at an actor the minute they walk into shot.

@EuropopTop

2 жыл бұрын

@@glamdolly30 totally agree thanks for the write-up

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

@@EuropopTop Thanks for your reply, appreciate it - good to meet someone else who recognises class when they see it, lol!

I liked pat when l was younger ❤

Does anyone know where to find “this is your life “ pat Phoenix ?

Admittedly she will never be confused with Maggie Smith, Stephen chucky, but she was a more than competent and quite engaging actress. Your spleen seems quite disproportionate.

@nakedmambo

6 жыл бұрын

Strange that, since Olivier himself was a fan.

Elsie Tanner!

Many memories on the Street....

This is a slightly edited version of the original.

God bless

She looks completely different in color than she did in black and white. She looks a lot better in color. Did she have work done on her face between 1960 and 1970?

8:15 what is this guy talking about saying she wasn't the greatest actress? She was a fantastic actress.

I'd forgotten all about here until I saw this :(

@ 0:27 Miaow! She wouldn't have the guts to say anything like that publicly when legendary Pat Phoenix was alive. And self projection @ 5:51.

She smoked 60 cigarettes a day.

@skygazer6898

5 жыл бұрын

Mark Harrison Now how would you know she smoked 60 a day, Mark?

@moaningpheromones

6 ай бұрын

people watched her fckn smoking all day, didn't they? flamin eck, you're giving me an eadache an all, leave it out.@@skygazer6898

Bet probably died with a ciggy in her hand. Almost every scene, she had one. Sad.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Well @ 1st May 2022 Julie Goodyear is very much alive, and recently celebrated her 80th birthday. Sadly the wonderful Pat Phoenix (Elsie Tanner), also a chain smoker, was not so lucky - she died of lung cancer in 1986, aged just 62. Life isn't fair!

If people could be brought back, would they have ever smoked? - took out too many talented people She was on 60 per day I believe No surprise she sadly succumbed to lung cancer so young, a waste of talent

@davidhodgson2025

4 жыл бұрын

keith barber if she didn’t smoke maybe she would be alive? In her early 100s?

@Keithbarber

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidhodgson2025 nobody can guess their age of passing away? But probably she may have made it into her 80s? An ex colleague of mine smoked heavily for 45 years, had a heart attack aged 58, quit and made it to 76

@Keithbarber

4 жыл бұрын

@James Henderson 60 was the reported average, but one never knows if there were days when she smoked more, sometimes fewer, but she must have done about 3 boxes per day

@davidhodgson2025

4 жыл бұрын

James Henderson no 60 a day that’s why she died so young

@absoluteacw

3 жыл бұрын

Smoking back then in that era was fashionable from what I've read. It was sociable. Looked good and was at one time suppossed to have health benefits!

Did you know that it’s said that PP’s ghost haunts the set to this day?

An Irish Soul

On Wikipedia it says Pat claims she was born in county Galway but it also says she was born in Manchester. I think Pat was born in Galway

@glamdolly30

4 жыл бұрын

Pat's mother was born in Galway and I think Pat romantically wished she had been too. She once told a reporter Galway was her place of birth (she was very proud of her Irish ancestry) but unfortunately she got caught out by a reporter who did some digging and found she was actually born at a Manchester hospital. Embarrassed, Pat said it had got confused once, when a journalist confused her with her mum. I think it was more likely a little fib by Pat that she ended up regretting!

Her mate Pauline sounds like Audrey

Corrie used to be something special. I don’t know when it went wrong but boy did it go wrong. Shame.

@Diamondsparkle788

Жыл бұрын

Too woke

At 9:52 Did I just see Vera Duckworth?

Len and Elsie should have been together. Tell me if I'm wrong...

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

Len was far too controlling and conventional for glamorous, independent Elsie - it was very true to life that she rejected his marriage proposal. frankly he wasn't attractive enough either - he resembled a short, fat, lecherous toad! Elsie deserved far better. Having read behind the scenes books about Corrie's golden years, it seems Barbara Knox who played Rita didn't want to marry Len in the show, and was dismayed when she read the scripts announcing their imminent engagement and marriage in 1977!

I understand this might not be the right platform, I adored Pat Phoenix and I truly believe she was the only British sex symbol there ever has or will be; can someone please explain the relationship between Elsie and Len? I have been rewatching old episodes and I am awfully confused. Google is no help. Were they former lovers? I got a sense they were old chums from school age days? Childhood sweethearts? Rita is very patient with Len around Elsie. Thanks to anyone who can explain. x

Tx: 07 April 2000

I remember seeing her with husband Alan Browning coming out of a Chinese restaurant in Bury St. Edmunds - Very heavily made up, possibly having left a performance at The Theatre Royal.

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17:26

I did like Elsie .Dawne

She fluffed her lines in every scene, still great though.

@glamdolly30

6 жыл бұрын

Yes she did and I rather liked that Elsie often gabbled her lines, she was such a whirlwind of energy, it suited the character! Vintage Coronation Street when Pat Phoenix and a wonderful cast led it, was the most superb drama Britain has ever produced. Today's Corrie is a joke by comparison. Crap scripts and acting - constant violent crimes thrown in to entertain because the writers have no imagination. It's so feeble! There was hardly any crime in Corrie of old - the show didn't need to rely on that kind of sensationalism, the depiction of real, ordinary lives with all the little dramas, told with heart and humour, was utterly gripping!

@mikehudson8884

2 жыл бұрын

@@glamdolly30 You're absolutely right, they were little drama's just like we have in everyday life, the pigeons in the roof debacle, Stan's laundry scheme etc to mention a couple...and as for Miss Phoenix fluffing her lines in all honesty I never noticed until it has been mentioned on here years later and you can play it back...To be fair it actually ADDS something I feel. In real life we sometimes stumble getting our words out.....

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikehudson8884 Exactly! Modern soaps are mistake-free, slick and word perfect - and so bloody depressing and predictable, they're totally unwatchable! Modern 'Coronation Street' bears no resemblance to the great show it was up to the late 90s, and doesn't deserve to bear the same name IMO.

@mikehudson8884

2 жыл бұрын

@@glamdolly30 I totally agree and I think Tony Warren would too.....Nice to hear from you, hope you're well.

@glamdolly30

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikehudson8884 Thanks, always enjoy your eloquent, insightful comments here, likewise my friend! X

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@chris7921

4 жыл бұрын

About what?

@sheisveryfamous

4 жыл бұрын

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