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I think the most interesting thing is actually that Hapi and Cornelia have extra dialogue. Thales and Kronya existing may imply an evil route or something later, but Hapi and Cornelia could mean mixed faction opportunities later.

@rueblie2627

Жыл бұрын

Well it could also mean that Hapi would be recruitable on said evil route Though you can mix factions when replaying maps anyway

@JaidynReiman

Жыл бұрын

Its probably for Record Keeper.

@hectorhernandezaleman3836

Жыл бұрын

Most likely they were planned to be unlockable through prestige, like rhea, arval and sothis and these dialogues are just tiny curious details like the battle dialogues of these other unlockable characters.

@TheGirlRobin

Жыл бұрын

No it’s because Cornelia was the one who experimented on Hapi, giving her the Sigh power/curse

I can see two of the extra Byleth being placeholders for Aelfric and Nemesis. They are oddly missing from the game, and the game pretty much reused every single NPC except them.

@Palasid11

Жыл бұрын

Nemesis is especially weird, because he is even mentioned in Arval’s paralogue.

@linebeckthejohoe4876

Жыл бұрын

Playable Nemesis would be so unbelievably cool.

@RainM8

Жыл бұрын

The lack of Nemesis really made me sad. Golden Deer was my first route both games, so I was disappointed by the lack of God Shattering Star

@filipe19991

Жыл бұрын

Remixes of What Cost? and God Shattering Star

@lpfan4491

Жыл бұрын

They have a decent theoretical reason to not be there. Aelfric is basically tied to the monestary and simply gets found and kicked out in non-CS timelines(There is no reason for this to not happen in Hopes, despite the acedemy closing down). His entire plotline is simply missed by Shez' PoV. And one could argue that Nemesis simply has no way of being there because he has no opportunity to be awakened yet.

Hopefully warriors gets some dlc the other ones did. I think the game was successful enough to warrant it.

@ramenbomberdeluxe4958

Жыл бұрын

Or, and I said this last time...maybe Nintendo should stop being greedy and whipping the employees to rush these games out, instead of over-reliance on DLC? Maybe thats a cool concept, dare I say a novel one, for this billion dollar company?

@avej99

Жыл бұрын

@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 I think dlc should add on to an already COMPLETE experience. I hate how modern dlc is almost essential to have the whole experience

@l.n.3372

Жыл бұрын

We don't actually know how successful this game was tho. The Japanese Twitter said it shipped 1m units, it did not say how many were sold.

@Slimeonian

Жыл бұрын

@@avej99 well if you look at the games that are closest to Three Hopes, Three houses and Age of Calamity, both of them are pretty complete experiences even without the dlc. Sure the dlc adds stuff like more characters and all that, but it’s not like the game is incomplete without the dlc

@mjr0760

Жыл бұрын

@@l.n.3372 it’s was way more successful than the 1st warrior game which took half a year to reach 1m units sold. So it’s more likely were gonna get dlc.

Ive said it prior but Hapi can detect the same thing Shez does as you approach the secret content with Byleth. Epiminedes drops the Timotheos tome. There is DEFINITELY a big connection there and Hapi (or her crestline) is way more linked than we think in regards to the Slitherers, at least thats just my gut feeling.

@yoshidoor5229

Жыл бұрын

Or the IS is just acting stupid again, and they couldn’t be bothered to make an personal weapon, but didn’t want to just give him the scholars tome

Oh man so we almost got an alternate ending for Azure Gleam like in Edelgard's route? The Epimenedes chapters just don't work if AG's ending stays the same, so it's a shame to see that almost wasn't the case at one point.

@JaidynReiman

Жыл бұрын

Yeah there's an "Alternate Path" event listing for AG's ending I saw in a datamine a while back but its not in the final game.

@l.n.3372

Жыл бұрын

Well the alt ending would have been a worse end for AG, so the ending would have been worse. If it's the same as SB, it's likely just that Claude would have betrayed Dimitri in the alt path.

@pearsemolloy9656

Жыл бұрын

@@l.n.3372 I think it’s more likely that Edelgard would have been freed from her brainwashing after the Zahras section. If Scarlet Blaze’s alternate path is the better ending then it stands to reason that Azure Gleam’s would be the same.

@l.n.3372

Жыл бұрын

@@pearsemolloy9656 No, I think you misunderstood me here. We are defining "alt path" differently here. To me, the alt path is the non Byleth recruited version. The recruiting Byleth path is the main path. Thus, the alt path is meant as the worse ending. Aka alt path SB is when Claude betrays the Empire. Thus this comparison in AG would be if Claude betrays the Kingdom. However, if you interpret the alt path as the one with Byleth, then you're just arguing for a different definition of alt path than I did. Thus we are starting from a different premise.

@pearsemolloy9656

Жыл бұрын

@@l.n.3372 well in the cutscene list “Smouldering Scarlet Blaze (alternate path)” is the better ending. While “Smouldering Scarlet Blaze” is the worse one. So my point stands.

I hope at least some of this is hints at DLC in development... Feels like a faint hope at this point since nothing is announced. Surprising given this game has sold well.

@adamrhodes9533

Жыл бұрын

Age of Calamity had a bit before the DLC got announced and they confirmed that the DLC had not been in the original plan so it could likely be the same here.

@CosmicToad5000

Жыл бұрын

still way too early to say since there hasn't been a general direct since 3 Hopes released.

@therealjaystone2344

Жыл бұрын

@@CosmicToad5000 September direct

@DarknessXER

Жыл бұрын

@@therealjaystone2344 god I hope there be a September Direct.

The most interesting thing from this video (in my opinion) is the presence of battle quotes for Thales, Kronya, and Cornelia. To me, this indicates the possibility of a few things. They may have been intended to be playable in the game, either as renown NG+ unlocks (like Arval, Sothis, and Rhea), or even in a sort of ‘evil route’. Hapi having quotes with Cornelia for example really reminds me of how even the renown NG+ unlockables we have now all have certain quotes with other characters from the main roster. Therefore what’s happened is either: 1) They were originally meant to playable (NG+ renown unlocks or an evil route) but they were cut and we won’t get them now 2) We’ll get them as DLC, possibly unlocked outright to be usable in record keeper battles, unlocked with renown in NG+, or we get an entire new evil route

This stuff being DLC seems kind of optimistic. I still remember fully voiced Fernand and Berkut going completely unused.

@nanshagames4085

Жыл бұрын

And you where right we got no DLC for this game

@javierrodriguez7254

9 ай бұрын

Not yet

Definitely want DLC with Nemesis among other choice events that occurred in Three Houses. Like even one with the Ashen Wolves as being a legitimate Mercenary Band that Shez leads across the battlefields, etc.

@jacobgendron

Жыл бұрын

I wish Ashen Wolves were only usable in their own path. They add too many characters to the current paths

Yeah I always pegged Holst as the Hero class especially since Hero is the only non-unique class in Three Houses that is never used by any of the named NPCs as their canon class. If we ever get DLC I hope they retcon Holst being a Hero instead of Swordmaster or they make Hero, Valkyrie, War Monk and Dark Flier as Overclasses.

@Hikarixhikarixhikari

Жыл бұрын

Same

@legomaster2538

2 ай бұрын

The same thing should apply for Rhea's Saint class. Because that class gave her unique animations in Houses, I think she should have gotten her own unique move set just like Shez, Byleth, and the House Leaders. If the developers did do, as you suggested, overclasses, they definitely need to make sure that characters such as Holst, Constance, Hapi, and Rhea keep their unique warrior specials when assigned as a Hero, Dark Flyer, Valkryie, and Saint respectively. Adding onto that, they should also allow characters such as Lorenz, Rodrigue, Leonie, Ferdinand, Sylvain, and Jeralt to use *their* unique warrior specials when promoted as a Holy/Dark Knight.

In the artbook there is an unused glowing Byleth.

Still can't believe this game doesn't have DLC announced yet

AZURE GLEAM SPOILERS (just in case) I would like to talk about this alternate path right here 3:35, like, I didn't saw any people talking about this. Do any of you remember the start of Azure gleam chapter 10? I think there is an alternate path right at this choice between if you want to recruit the members of the Golden Deer or if you don't. In case that you don't, they will be like, guarding the base (or that's what I remember). This is the only choice in the entire game that is looking like if it was something important, don't you think? (like that one on three houses with the black eagles) I played the other 2 routes and there wasn't any choice that looked similar to that. And there is another thing... A location change of the main battle (something that the others routes didn't had... Hmm...) This change was because Cornelia started an attack at the base, and because of this, Dimitri ordered to defend (the main battle was an attack to the empire, but was canceled because the kingdom needed to defend their base). My theory here is... What if you don't recruit the members of the Golden deer? They would be there at the base defending the attack of Cornelia, while the rest of Dimitri's army can continue their attack to the empire, and like that, there is another alternate path... I don't know, maybe on this path they can save Edelgard of her brainwash? Who knows haha Again, this is only my personal theory that I wanted to share, because literally I never saw someone pointing at this, and never saw a gameplay of someone not recruiting those members on chapter 10... Right now I am playing Azure gleam again to see what happens if I don't recruit them, probably nothing, but it's worth to try at least. And sorry if my comment is hard to understand, I am still learning the english language.

@hectorhernandezaleman3836

Ай бұрын

I never thought about it, but you very well could be right. It was indeed very weird the way the option to recruit them or not was presented, like it was more important than the no brainer it actually is in game.

Its not correct that Hapi and Cornelia dont share a map as enemies. You can recruit Hapi early on in the Blue Lions ruite and she even has unique dialogue against Cornelia. She also talks about her in the Base after and before you fight her.

@corynwilde1672

Жыл бұрын

I suspect he meant a map where they are both enemy units, as in they are on the same side. But I do think that the fact that they can interact with each other on opposing sides and have a backstory validates Cornelia making weird comments to Hapi if they happen to be fighting together.

@Faerghast

Жыл бұрын

I meant they are never on the same side in the same map together lol

@_ANDRE.

Жыл бұрын

@@Faerghast Yeah misunderstood you there. But to be fair the way you said it was confusing.

Yeah, I'm surprised agarthans like Thales aren't playable... we could even play Calamity Ganon in HW:AoC

@arzfan29

Жыл бұрын

Age of calamity didn't have 53 playable characters

@supermonkeyqwerty

Жыл бұрын

@@arzfan29 true, but its 18 characters still rivals the 24ish unique classes, especially if you also count Link / Zelda's alternate weapon types and even then, the 53 characters is proof that adding some new ones for DLC would be easy: program a new unique, make a model and that's about it

I would imagine that the Voice clips are made in bulk, it’d be easier to have a VA come in and do every Voice line the character might use than it would be to have a VA come in twice because they changed their minds about a character being playable or not. It would totally explain why the formerly playable characters have voice lines, because they’d be coming in to record lines for the story anyway. Same thing with the unused portraits, they probably commissioned an artist to just make a portrait of every character with every emotion.

Rufus is super evil but his voice-acting is super good so I hope he makes it in as a playable unit. I hope Shahid gets in, too.

@KarlSturmgewher

Жыл бұрын

Generic Warrior: "I'll let you go for now. Don't think you've won!" Rufus: "A pity..." Generic Wise: "My life is worth more than this! I'm outta here!" Thales: "Our plans require greater destruction!"

Seeing Hedgemon is partly modeled for this game makes me slightly sad, because I was hoping we'd get explanation for what exactly the Husk is, as for now all I can really guess is some alternative, more controlled form of the beast that you become if you hold the wrong relic weapon...but how did they manage to get that transformative property, what relic weapon did Edelgard even use?

@loganwendigo937

Жыл бұрын

I got the impression that it’s the crest stones that cause demonic transformations. In a AG cutscene you see the Beast crest stone appear when Edelgard is transformed by Thales. The beast crest stone is also what powers Edelgard’s fake Relic weapon so I assume she took it out and used it at the end of AM

@oranbluethorn3956

Жыл бұрын

@@loganwendigo937 Thats what ive always guessed, but it'd be interesting to see the process, or if it was even the custom relic weapon's core, rather than Thales' magic, or something else. They talk about it as if its some kind of thing they contained almost, if i recall correctly, which wouldnt make much sense if its simply the core of the weapon

@ShirmaAkayaku

Жыл бұрын

I was kind of hoping Hegemon Edelgard would be an unlockable playable class, sort of like how you unlock Rhea, Sothis and Arval. Also because Warriors games usually have that one character that tends to be pretty big, like the Great Fairies in Age of Calamity.

The transformed Edelgard was the biggest WTF for me, I saw it in the cutscene and I was like oh snap am I gonna have to fight that..............Never showed up again. I like this game but I'm just not liking all these cliffhangers, I know the first warriors had its problem but it at least had an ending even though it was non canon, if I'm being honest unless its done right I think Warriors spin off games should avoid basing it off their main story especially if you're gonna leave your player asking even more questions

@KarlSturmgewher

Жыл бұрын

If we see giant Edelgard playable... It would be like the playable Mobile Armors of Dynasty Warriors Gundam Reborn.

I'd like to see a Slitherer evil route DLC similar to Cia's extra levels in the original Hyrule Warriors.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

Imagine Thales and especially Solon as Grapplers.

@bubbles784

Жыл бұрын

@@hoshueyeplopper4465 Now I have this weird thought that Thales and Solon are wrestlers and challenging the church to a wrestling match.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

@@bubbles784 The Machic Man Thales Agarthage and The Zahras Boy Solon No-Hair.

@nickchabot1302

Жыл бұрын

@@hoshueyeplopper4465 I like to imagine Solon as the only not ripped grappler

The concept of DLC coming for the game is great because it helps me cope over how baffling it was of them to STILL not make Judith playable, lol.

@xtcarnagerocks8915

Жыл бұрын

I'd say it's because she can die but given Rodrigue is playable they don't have a good excuse.

@SpanishFly120

Жыл бұрын

@@xtcarnagerocks8915 A lot of people think that the Rodrigue situation actually further supports why Judith and Randolph should be playable. The thought is that it makes that scene more impactful in general that way.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

@@SpanishFly120 There is even a golden rank battalion called Daphnel fencers. Yeah, she was definitely meant to be playable.

Something I find curious is that Rufus has a unique class despite only showing up once as a boss. What purpose could there be to making a class just for him?

@ramenbomberdeluxe4958

Жыл бұрын

In fairness, this happens a few times for boss characters across the franchise, so im not too shaken up by that personally.

@videogamefanaticlordkh7526

Жыл бұрын

@@ramenbomberdeluxe4958 I know it happens a few times. I just find it surprising that they made for Rufus considering how mostly unimportant he is, after the execution scene he's pretty much forgotten

@adamrhodes9533

Жыл бұрын

The Almyran prince guy that I Forgot the name of suddenly also has a unique one.

@videogamefanaticlordkh7526

Жыл бұрын

@@adamrhodes9533 at least Shahid has slightly more plot relevance

@adamrhodes9533

Жыл бұрын

@@videogamefanaticlordkh7526 Depends honestly. Rufus' death set the entirety of the Kingdom's plot line in motion and is mentioned a lot. He may not appear much, but that doesn't mean he isn't important. Sort of like Kronya in Three Houses honestly.

As a diehard fan of the OG Fire emblem warriors, man does this game deserve dlc for the story. The OG Fe Warriors never got any true story Dlc, so I hope this one gets some.

What's funny about Child Dimitri and Child Edelgard is their models are straight up in the game. When I saw them I thought there was gonna be some sort of flashback but nope, those models never saw the light of day. Another thing that I find so strange is Female Byleth has a model that has her wearing glasses which implies they may have planned to have accessory customization at some point but it was scrapped.

Hoping for DLC, but I won't hold my breath. I think Hanneman would be fun to play as and I would love it if we had Dark Flyer, War Monk, and Valkyrie to play with. It would also be nice to see alternate endings for AG and GW.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

Grappler Hanneman hopium

I wonder if the npc dialogue stuff you mentioned was originally intended to have them appear as renown characters. It'd certainly make sense for the Agarthans, though admittedly Rufus is kinda an odd one out if that were the case given how he's in the game for so little time.

@______-uw3ei

Жыл бұрын

Especially considering they went through the effort of including the agrathians personal weapons as purchasable with renown it feels like it would of have made sense to be able to use it on the characters and possibly get special combat arts like relic weapons

I can imagine that a lot of the assets were just produced in bulk, then the devs figured out what they wanted to use or rather, what they had time to implement.

Yeah, this game could’ve used a few more classes, so the fact that Hero was left on the cutting room floor, and that three of the Abyss classes don’t seem to be developed much at all, makes me rather annoyed.

@xtcarnagerocks8915

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't have minded if they just gave each character a set class like they did in the original warriors game. At least that way everyone didn't feel the same aside from the character ability. They even all have the same stat caps.

@AzureGreatheart

Жыл бұрын

@@xtcarnagerocks8915 I don’t think that the class system in Three Hopes was fundamentally flawed, but it needed more characters to have unique movesets and/or classes to reallly work. Anyone with the appropriate crest to use one of the Sacred or Relic weapons should’ve had a unique moveset for that weapon type in their preferred class line; it is absurd that Annette, Marianne, and _especially_ Seteth can’t use the respective legendary weapons without reclassing. Seteth’s preferred class is literally a class that required lances to unlock in Three Houses, and yet he can’t use the appropriate sacred lance in that class _despite the only other character with that crest being exclusive to a different route than Seteth is exclusive to._ Also, there needed to be more classes in general; the classes we do have avert some of the problems of Three Houses’ class system, but most of the major complaints were left unaddressed, and are actually _even worse_ here. Thought you could finally give Cathrine or fByleth a good brawling class? Too bad, those are still arbitrarily male only. Wanted to give Lysithea the more appropriate version of the mage classes? Sucks to be you, they kept the pointless restrictions on Dark Mage/Bishop. You literally just want Holst, Balthus, Hapi, and Constance to be in their canonical classes? Welp, their classes aren’t even available at all _for some reason…_ What the game needed was a wider, less restricted selection of classes, and more unique movesets for specific characters, but they didn’t put in the extra effort. A most of this game’s issues are a result of them not fully fleshing out their ideas for one stupid reason or another, and the result is a game that should’ve been great, but is instead merely okay.

When they did the Cindered Shadows DLC, they gave you specfic units from each house and the new characters. So I wonder, perhaps a DLC with the unique Agarthan units. Maybe those who underwent crest experiments will be available as well such as Lysithea, Edelgard and Hapi. Unsure how they will do this, but maybe something similar like how they made Edelgard be silent in Azure Gleam or some sort of baggage or promise of secrets?

The interlude maybe allude to another time skip where we see the Three Houses version of characters ending the war, perhaps?

As an Edelgard fan, it feels nice not having a half-finished route with resolution on the cutting room floor. I assume the Dimitri route split is probably also a "Claude backstabs (the Church and) you" option.

@kylekraus6722

Жыл бұрын

Or a route where Edelgard comes out of Zarhas in her right mind and not under Thales control.

@l.n.3372

Жыл бұрын

CF wasn't half finished tho. It was just rushed. They only made CF because some devs wanted to side with Edelgard too, in addition to her betraying you in SS.

@pearsemolloy9656

Жыл бұрын

@@kylekraus6722 yeah I think that would have been more likely. Would have made more sense too as her falling back into being brainwashed after leaving Zahras was really dumb.

@Dakress23

Жыл бұрын

@@l.n.3372 CF was always in the cards for Three Houses. The only effect the devs had on its development (per interviews) was to make the requirements needed to unlock it far more obvious and telegraphed.

@l.n.3372

Жыл бұрын

@@Dakress23 That's not fully true. The initial concept was "let's make a game where the red emperor archetype is female for once, and your former student is a Lord who betrays your avatar character." That became SS. The next written and fully finished route was AM and then VW (copy paste of SS). Then certain devs wanted a route where you keep Edelgard on the team. That became CF. And then, they had to decide how to unlock this route vs making it more difficult or less difficult. They chose to make it less hidden than otherwise planned.

I’d love to know the recruitment flags for the five unused characters. Would be interesting to know where and when they were supposed/will become playable.

@xtcarnagerocks8915

Жыл бұрын

I can see Hanneman being when you rescue him and Leonie in SB. Aloise would just join when you hire Byleth and Jeralt. Cyril could join with Seteth and Flayn maybe in AG.

One of Habi's paralogues, I believe one exclusive to Scarlet Blaze, confirms an adversarial link between Hapi and Cornelia. I have no idea what situation would put them on the same side though.

@lil_puddin

Жыл бұрын

Same with Azure Route. Hapi confirms Cornelia is the woman who screwed her life up.

The Argathan content interested me the most. It seems like KT was planning on making the Argathans playable but ended up scrapped. Maybe a secret route was planned where you would team up with the Argathans. If so I need an DLC of that stat. 💀

@pageclayton6850

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it would also use those portraits of Awakened Shez, having Epimenides and Shez working in tandem to take out everyone.

I’m hoping that if DLC is released, it focuses on TWSITD possibly even as an evil route. At the very least, I’d like it if those characters were Record Hall units.

@pageclayton6850

Жыл бұрын

I wanna see a TWSITD route too, mostly to run around Shambala with rock dubstep playing in the background

@therealjaystone2344

Жыл бұрын

Nemesis being absent was criminal

Although I'm not a modder by any means, I find it interesting to dig in and see what unused content exists in a game, because it gives a glimpse into the developers' thought process and methods. Thanks for the enlightening video! 100k HYPE!

I really enjoyed this game far more than I thought I would, there's a layer of depth to the game I wasn't expecting from a Warriors title. Would really like to see some DLC, especially if it means they bring back the Dark Flier/Valkyrie classes, since Hapi, Lysithea and FShez really miss out on getting Essence of Darkness (considering that skill is locked to Dark Mage).

@littletim98

Жыл бұрын

Female Shez Dosnt miss out on it cause you can unlock it as male then in another route playthrough Have it to use with Female

An Agarthan route is really looking like the dlc. They didn't write all that dialogue, and ask the voice actors to do all the recordings at the same time if they never planned to release it. Also consider the pref weapons are there, and that there are menus in the game with only 1 option that would be a perfect place to add an Agarthan route, such as not going to the monastery with Alois or refusing to join a house.

Something interesting too is that some of the voiceclips in the game definitely are for the characters that got demoted to NPC status. Rhea has a line for praising Cyril for instance, and a good lot of characters also can praise Alois.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

NPC Gustave also praised Rodrigue when I played Chapter 3 AG in the record keeper. Additionally Judtih and Nader were surely both originally meant to be playable.

@adamrhodes9533

Жыл бұрын

@@hoshueyeplopper4465 I get a feeling at least Judith had been planned due to a... Certain cutscene.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

@@adamrhodes9533 There is also a battalion in the game called Daphnel fencers or such, similar to how everyone else gets a unique one in paralogues. In Claude's paralogue there is a wyvern battalion (Nader) and later on at a location you get the Daphnel fencers (Judith). They really got shafted.

@adamrhodes9533

Жыл бұрын

@@hoshueyeplopper4465 I'd assume the former battalion is probably for Claude. I think his paralogue in Three Houses gave an Almyran battalion too. Judith I presume they planned given she fills in Rodrigue's role in the cutscene I referred to.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

@@adamrhodes9533 Yet Claude gets his own battalion after the timeskip just like Dimitri and Edelgard. Nader also has these unused voice lines and he is in camp practically all the time in the endgame except one chapter.

Considering how shafted Claude and the deer were in the game (again), it's not surprising that they didn't even bother finishing Holst's class. Being a deer fan can be really frustrating.

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

For real. Seeing Claude's paralogue that stars both Nader and Judith, I guarantee you they were meant to be playable. They even both have a corresponding battalion in the game. Almyran wyverns and Daphnel fencers.

I have to wonder if some of the issues with AG with Ferdie and Hubert suddenly not being there (yes i understand it makes sense because obviously they would be against what was happening to Edelgard but the way FE usually does things, you'd think they'd show at least them getting captured or something) is because they didn't want us to lose Billy again (at least not in the visual sense in the form of Ferdie). I do appreciate it though I know this is mean to say but I wish someone made at least a (high quality) fan-made version. Or at least a fanfiction. I was disappointed/surprised to not see any fanfictions of Hubert getting captured by TWSTD around the time 3 houses was more prominent. Yes Hubert is super smart and would be super hard to capture especially by an organization he's been studying but there are fanfictions of worse/weirder.

I really hope in future DLC they bring back the excluded classes and characters. I feel like it would be easy to include them since they are there just unfinished.

@therealjaystone2344

Жыл бұрын

And you cannot have a modern FE game without fanservice

I would like to hope a lot of these things will be added over as DLC for the future

One day we'll get a dlc haha one day...

@legomaster2538

2 ай бұрын

As Hawkeye from Endgame once said, “Don’t give me hope…” 😢

I think there’s already plenty to be thankful for in that Hopes tried to remedy some of Houses’ unused content like expeditions and the other team activities. Thanks for showing us this

I think that the Rufus one might be the most interesting here to me - he's one of the characters I have longed to see since 3H, and given that he has a unique class, unique skills, battle capabilities and even additional lore-relevant flavor text in his concept art, I was hoping there were manners in which he could become playable. (With regard to the flavor text - it is mentioned that his circlet, which by all means looks out of place and not-Faerghus style in design, is actually something that Cornelia gave him to increase the amount of influence she has over him.)

there's a lot of potential for DLC here. Finishing/putting in Hero, War Monk, Valkyrie, Dark Flier for more class variety, finishing the missing five, and ther'es plenty of others to add (Judith? Nader? Randolph?). Hell being able to use people like Rufus or Shahid just to screw around in records mode is better than nothing. Now, Warriors got DLC, AoC got DLC, plus THIS game sold over 1 million units. I'm sure it's gonna happen, the only question is how much and when.

I knew this game felt like it was trying to do more. I just got that vibe. It’s a shame this keeps happening to games of this universe cause it just has so many stories it’s trying to tell 💔

Near a year later and still no DLC.

Not exactly unused because you can find these in the game without hacking, but I found really odd that enemy Petra and Randolph (encountered in AG and VW story chapters and side mission minibosses) have some really obscure dialogue that you can only see when you fight them with... Caspar. Who is famously not recruitable outside of SB... so you can only hear this dialogue in NG+ replay battles at camp: Enemy Petra: I cannot stop and think, or Caspar will be finding an opening... Enemy Randolph: You may be of my house, but I will show you no mercy! It makes me wonder if Caspar was at some point intended to be recruited outside of SB, or like Ghast said in the video, they recorded these lines in bulk as standard industry practice and then changed their minds about their availability in the game content. Either way, it makes me feel even more frustrated that my favorite character in the game was exclusive to one route only...

I really hope this game gets dlc. It’s definitely a game I wouldn’t mind having it.

The Cornelia and Hapi line was referencing the fact that C was the one who was experimenting on H and ended up giving her the Sigh power. You find that out in Hapi/Dimitri’s supports.

I really wish TWSITD were playable. Even if they were just bonus characters like Rhea, Sothis and Arval 😔

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

Grappler Thales and Solon 🤤

Huh yeah it'd make a lot of sense if holst were a hero. Also woulda made sense to have an advanced class that contues to use the mercenary class action, whereas swordmaster and mortal savant have a different class action

Im just sad this game didnt have Rhea route, she is such a fascinating character and needed to be explored more. Once again she gets the short end of the stick and once again an opportunity is wasted :(

I wonder for DLC if we will be able to play an Agarthan route?

4 months later and still no more news on 3Hopes accessable content, hopefully (copium) it's only because of Engage but as the English side of marketing is lacking compared to the Japanese announcements this is all still a big ambiguous mystery (as redundant a sentiment that is). *Sigh* 🤷‍♂️

honestly the fact that some classes and units are missing from the main game and it's hard to grind for gold makes me hope for a DLC

It could be perhaps some of these ideas including that alternative path could have been temporarily removed so they can later add it on a future update or they are still working on that and added it in the files

SLIGHT SPOILERS BELOW. I wish Arval had a PRF class (Avesta? Idr), their other half has one in the optional chapter, so why does Arval start as Gremory/Dark Bishop

@magix1484

Жыл бұрын

they probably don’t use the class because it’s op. The class ability allows the user to use heroic weapons at no drawback

@bluegallade

Жыл бұрын

@@magix1484 is it really that broken though? most hero relic weapons have lackluster skills compared to the generic / archenae regalia with "customisable" skills

@Lucas17031

Жыл бұрын

@@bluegallade trueee, though I feel like Blutgang is the exception. Tbh

@xtcarnagerocks8915

Жыл бұрын

Is it that bad if Arval is an op class through? It's not like you have to use them if you don't want to.

If Cornelia were ever to become playable, her quotes for Hapi could probably be accessible through the Record Keeper, since you can use units from other routes in it. There are already quotes ingame for impossible matchups like that.

In addition to Hanneman, Alois, Cyril, Gilbert and Anna... I want Randolph, Ladislava, Fleche, Leopold, Ludwig, Waldemar, Cornelia, Lambert (he'd be the Tadakatsu Honda here), Nemesis (the Shanks here), Matthias, Lonato, Rufus, Shahid, Gwendal, Miklan, Nader, Judith, Erwin, Thales, Kronya, Solon. It's a crime to not see them all playable. Acheron I could care less about. And maybe one of the moms of the other house students.

@leosnyder5264

11 ай бұрын

So true but we need to get Nintendo to come back to this give it dlc

The 4 agarthans as renown units would have been so cool

I think the Interlude is just Post Games chapters allowed you to doing a free play or some special maps but the game scrapped it allowed players to free play any cleared Route maps in next playthrough

Let us hope they finish Valkyrie and Dark Flier *at least* so Hapi and Constance can stop being footlocked

it would be really cool if DLC added history mode and let you play as these unused characters especially the agarthans.

@bluegallade

Жыл бұрын

or at least a history / "golden mode" that gives access to all current characters and new agarthan characters at all times, having done a playthrough of all three routes everyone is around lv50-60 but a good chunk of the units only mastered one master class because of their poor route availability and inability to "train" outside of their home routes (or at all if renown rewards) levels can be bought but class EXP is a slog if they fall too out of use .

The one in 4:31 had glasses based on Petra's and ignatz's B support

Curious why we didn't get DLC yet...

@bradleydrake6941

Жыл бұрын

I think it's because engage was announced so they're saving it for after engage has finished.. and since it has now we just need to wait and see

@Banjoisawesome

Жыл бұрын

@@bradleydrake6941 Right. Though...it is a bit too late right?

@alecseuslev9054

Жыл бұрын

The sales of the game very quickly fell to almost zero, according to rumors, they still have not sold even 1.25 million. And this despite the fact that they sold a million back in August.

@nuibaba280

Жыл бұрын

@@alecseuslev9054 Do we know that? We never got updated on 3 Hopes' sales.

@bradleydrake6941

3 ай бұрын

​@@alecseuslev9054that's wrong information. It had sold over 2 million by the time you made that comment

Finally! Unused content! Tcrf has been so barren and this makes me so happy

Another class that's missing alongside the five listed in this video is the Lord class. Even though Judith is assigned to that class in this game as she was in Three Houses, it isn't available in Three Hopes or offers a unique playstyle different from Trickster or Mortal Savant. Rhea's unique Saint class also should have given her a unique move set exclusive to her just like Shez, Byleth, Claude, Dimitri, and Edelgard since that class gave her unique animations in Three Houses.

I have a theory as to when the five unused the houses characters would be unlocked. Hanneman would have probably also been a black Eagles character, though I have a feeling that due to him wanting to complete his research, he would probably be recruitable instead of having been killed. Gilbert would have probably only been playable if you picked blue Lions. Which is probably the same case for Cyril. Alois would have probably been recruited the same way you recruit Byleth and Jerald, and Anna would've probably been unlocked similarly to the other post-game characters, and I have a feeling she would have functioned like the gatekeeper in that they can be used in story missions despite being a post-game character. I haven't beaten the game yet, but from my current experience, it seems like most of the characters use the same move sets with a few small exceptions. So, theoretically, why did those five characters need to be scrapped? Almost all of the work needed to at least make them playable was done. They have a model, and most of them have dialog. Their moves sets can be easily copied. The only thing at least four of them would need is support conversations. Obviously, Anna wouldn't need it because she didn't have it in the original. It especially bothers me because Hanneman and Alois were two of my favorite characters in that game. I can kind of understand removing Gilbert, Cyril, and Anna. Considering that, as far as I know, those characters have never been particularly popular. But we couldn't at least get Hannaman and Alois. How can we have Manuela but not have Hanneman. How can we not have Alois when Byleth is a major focal point of the story. Imagine how funny the dialogue for Hanneman and Manuela praising each other during Battle would have been. P.S. I know I seem well informed for someone who hasn't beaten the game. The reason for that being I'm desperately afraid of messing something up, so I looked up guides to help with that.

Alois & Hanneman are my 2 favourite 3H characters so i really hope they.i'll be added either though doc or a free update like Jertiza in Three Houses, though i'm not hopeful.

Since recruiting Byleth in SB lead to a better ending, perhaps the current endings for AG and GW are the non-recruited endings, and we’ll get betters endings for recruiting Byleth in the future.

@TheGamersState

Жыл бұрын

What exactly is the difference? I played both routes where you recruit or fight Byleth and I still got the same ending with Seiros and Thales. Am I missing something?

@aimless_clueless_edits5912

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGamersState I think they are just talking about how Claude doesn’t betray you which I guess would lead to a different ending but like it doesn’t change much since either way the kingdom is going to be invaded by the empire with or without Claude and the Federation.

@xtcarnagerocks8915

Жыл бұрын

@@TheGamersState it changes the end text. In one it says they are closing in on the kingdom and the other has the war split 3 ways again. Also it changed ch 14 a bit with claude deciding to betray you as the only gameplay change.

@moonmoon2479

Жыл бұрын

That would be interesting. Maybe that’s what they will do, idk.

I'm rewatching this video today feeling like: 🤡 To be so full of HOPE again... that's all I ever wanted. =(

it makes me wonder if 3h got the short end of the stick somewhere. I feel to make a kind review, one's have to spoiler the cut stuff

DLC 🤔

100k baby!

I everything about this game until the ending, it felt extremely rushed, so I honestly wouldn't mind something to give a little more clarity. I've only played GW so far, Claude is my favorite lord and he's really the only lord I wanted to see get more development, and it's exactly what I wanted in that department. I tried AG and I got tired of it after like chapter 5, so I won't be playing the other routes, I never really liked Dimitri tho tbh. I watched a friend play through SB, and I honestly wasn't impressed with the story, it felt almost exactly the same as CF, they just added a few Slitherer fights. My wish list for DLC is: True Endings More Classes (Dark Falcon, Hero, etc.) More Characters (Slitherers, Anna, Judith, the ones that were in Three Houses, etc.) Old Timeskip Designs Golden Route These are more of a stretch: Longer Academy Phase Supports with Byleth and the Lords

Possible DLC files? Tokyo Game Show is next month, we might be seeing DLC soon.

@moonmoon2479

Жыл бұрын

KT announced they would be there, so maybe

I seriously wonder what they were/are(?) planning by recording all of those voicelines for non-playable units, but especially Cornelia's unique praise lines for Hapi Consider my interest piqued

Nemesis not being in Three Hopes is a War Crime.

God I hope for an evil route as dlc. Would be fun

Just a random thought but what if the dlc is a new route where you side with the Agarthins. That would be cool

Ganon is the final recruit in HW2 and it looks dumb. They may have been planning more non-canon playable characters like most Warriors games have

Oh baby this is what I was waiting for can't wait till this makes me upset

I think the small Dimitri and Edelgard were used for a single moment in the game were they talk together as children. And for Fallen Edelgard, I am sure it is the model they used for her when she transforms in the Azure Gleam cutscenes.

Grégoire blushing is truly cursed

@hoshueyeplopper4465

Жыл бұрын

Grégoire in the hands of his protector Baron Barnabas.

"unused character dialogue portraits" - I'm quite sure Shahid's portrait is used with his battle barks, similarly Dimitri's uncle.

Well is been two months now so hoping September they should be announcing the dlc I think it would be dumb if they didn’t do the dlc but finger cross

@johnclopez96

11 ай бұрын

This didn’t age well lmao

Three Hopes Glasses Petra probably exists because somebody forgot to delete a layer on their PSD (or whatever graphics file format they use). It's very clear that the Three Hopes post timeskip designs are just the Three Houses post timeskip faces with different hair and clothing. They probably just pulled up the PSDs they used for the first game and drew new hair and clothing overtop on new layers. Since there was a post timeskip version of Glasses Petra in Three Houses, and the glasses were probably on a separate layer, they were probably just still there when the new designs were made. Whoever put together the assets to go into the game (most likely someone other than the artist) probably just didn't know the glasses weren't necessary this time around because the layer never got deleted, and made a new version of Glasses Petra. Either that, or there may have been some automated system for putting the layers together into the game assets. Either way, the glasses probably shouldn't have been there at all.

Yeah i hope war monk valkyrie and dark flier are eventully added. Cause war monk i believe was Happi's signature class, and dark flier was Constance's before, i think they eventully released it for all characters in the original three houses game

@natsu-kunanimen7065

Жыл бұрын

Valkrie was hapi's, war monk was balthus

Oh it's a mod. Was hoping it was actually Kronya

i really hope we get DLC

Fascinating

Ugh I just wanna hear some cute Hanneman/Manuela lines and some lines with Jeralt/Alois/Leonie

1:54 Heheh, "Dummy Male Byleths" XD

So this isn’t the first time that Azure Gleam could’ve had a split route. Of what? Shame we won’t know for now

The blank characters COULD be planned DLC. Even the three Byleths may be place holders for characters to be inserted later. It's not unusual to do that to reduce coding time/cost when the DLC is being made, if the game is successful enough to make it.

@therealjaystone2344

Жыл бұрын

Hyrule warriors didn’t sell well and it had dlc

@muthesquirrel

Жыл бұрын

@@therealjaystone2344 Are you feeling ok? Hyrule Warriors was the most successful launch of any Musou game.

@therealjaystone2344

Жыл бұрын

@@muthesquirrel 1 million copies sold for HW. Most warrior games never sell well despite strong starts.

@muthesquirrel

Жыл бұрын

@@therealjaystone2344 Thus they're graded on their success vs cost based on how well the genre does in general. HW was considered enough of a success that it was ported to both 3DS and then Switch. Without it's success we wouldn't have gotten FE Warriors or Age of Calamity. Although Age of Calamity I think outdid it in total sales now. With all that said though, it seems a bit late for Three Hopes to get DLC at this point. They prolly woulda' said something by now.

the cut content could be added through dlc