Midas DN4816-0 is affected by any gain changes the performers make in the XR18. As a FOH sound guy, I do NOT want them making changes to my signal, or any sound coloration from the preamps, or latency from A/D D/A conversion. Good old fashioned analog splitter snake is still 100% the better way to go. But thanks for yet another informative video! :)

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Oh totally! As a FOH guy, I would want a physical split as well. The main purpose of the DN4816-O in this video was for the additional outputs via Ultranet, but the digital split was a little added bonus. Thanks for watching!

@drjacus

Ай бұрын

If You mixing from FOH speakers, I recon You do, then to compensate latency move your desk fiew feet closer ;), DN4816-0 has 0.5 ms latency, if signal is not clipping, regain it at Your console as desired. Let's move on with technology.

Fantastic tutorial as usual, keep up the great work Drew

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

I'm in Brazil, thanks for your service. We love you!

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

Always enjoying your content watching from Bolivia ❤

Nick from Vanuatu, thanks for the informitive videos mate.

Great information, as usual.

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thanks for your teaching. Please I love you to make, a video connecting x air mixer to a drive rack pa or pa+ and connect to live sessions

Great info!

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice Video, thanks for your explanation. Maybe you can show how to connect a XR 18 via the Klark DN4816U to the Behringer Wing, to get more Inputs.

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Oh man! That is quite an interesting thought. I'll have to add that sometime! The only downside is that you would have to have a computer or tablet ready to adjust the gain on the XR18, but if you had the same setup every time, you wouldn't have to do much adjustment. Cool idea!

This is more or less the setup I built for our string band. I’m using a transformer isolated analog split but otherwise pretty similar. We’ve had lots of issues with RF interference from the Sennheiser XSW system. Wondering if a larger combined antenna setup would alleviate these issues but otherwise it’s been a great setup

There I was, wondering how to get an "alternate" output from the XR18.... Then the DN4816-O segment began and I realized you were saying "ulTRAnet!" Great video, as always.

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

Hey @Drewbrashler thanks for making this video. If you had to do this with more than one P16 monitors and P16D switch over ULTRANET, will the routing config on XR18 be different from the one in this video?

You can actually use the XR18 headphone send for 2x mono Aux sends instead of losing 2 of the ultranet output channels.

Awesome video Drew. So I’m curious, if I used a xlr to LR 1/4 Would it still be mono.?

If you were planning to use the Main outputs to a Bose PA instead of FOH type situation, could you configure the Midas outputs as stereo sends for additional IEMs? Someone mixes the Main Outputs to the PA for audience, and then the band does their own mix for IEM...

Waiting this kind of great video on studiolive III mixer

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Don't worry, I'll be making more PreSonus videos soon!

Hi Drew! It's a interesting idea, but I think it`ll be better, for common case, to get Behringer HA6000 instead Midas DN4816-0. Because you can mix stereo Main and mono buses for 6 IEM stereo mixes inside.

@drjacus

Ай бұрын

DN4816-0 is more of digital snake, not headphone amp/mixer.

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

That is also a great idea!

I would love to purchase the DN4888 but I would like to know if I can use the ultra network to get a in ear mix, and send sound to and from the mixer to the DN4888? Ps I want to find a way to use the P-16 for IEM

Great vid…. A very important piece of information is that the outputs are LINE level, post gain. A FOH guy should catch this but still probably a good idea to mention it.

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Oh yeah, I did mention it at 05:55 in the video. Mixing FOH mid show and having gains being adjusted would be a nightmare!

@antslivesound

Ай бұрын

​@@DrewBrashler Hi Drew. You definitely did mention it int he video. I meant that the band should probably mention it to the venue. For instance, if a band comes off the DN using an XLR snake to feed FOH, as a FOH person my first thoughts would be, "ok maybe these are MIC level splits", until I did my due diligence and traced the snake back to it's line level source. As an alternate solution a split snake would also do the job, and would be an exact split, pre gain.

Combining this setup with waves superrack performer is the ultimate ultimate rig 😅

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

HAH! Nice. Well I guess I'll have to make another video! 😅

Nice very usefull

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

so what is going out to the house? do you have to have other equipment for recording, streaming etc out to house?

In the same way, I can use AUX 1-6 from XR18 for my floor monitors and then use the Midas DN4816-0 for IEMs. right?

thanks! Can XR18 receive signals from ultranet? or it cen only sent to them?

I have a network for the equipment and another network for the users. Between the networks there is a firewall. I need to know which TCP/IP ports should be allowed on the firewall. Do you know what ports?

Drew can you do a video on this same kind of video with the x32

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

What do you have in mind with the video? A ultimate IEM setup for the X32 kind of thing? Thanks!

how can you connect this to x32?

Hello , Drew! I am a musician at Phnom Penh New Life Church in Cambodia. I have been watching your video for a long time. Thank you for your Sharing! Can you make a video of using X-32(FOH mixer) and X-32 Rack(Stage and IEM mixer) sharing the same input from S32 stagebox and can control both mixer individually such as Preamp, EQ... but except mute from FOH mixer, please! Because I want X-32 Rack to control sound on stage like IEM and floor monitor for rehearsal without turn on FOH mixer. But when sunday worship come I want FOH mixer could possibility control mute on X-32 Rack also, and X-32 Rack still can use to control sound on stage as well.

Can I use the DN4888 as well like this

The midas dn4816-o is out of stock everywhere in USA 😣

Can i use DN4816 for IEM output stereo?

So we won't be able to use any FX to the IEM if we use FX send as IEM too, right? Some musician or vocalist do want some FX in their mix. Or am I missing something here? 😅

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

It is all tradeoffs. You would have to decide where the priority is in this case. But you can always do a IEM's from the FX sends and then leave 1 or 2 FX for use with effects.

@seanwalsh999

Ай бұрын

@@DrewBrashler Good point as there are 4 FX channels, so there would be two left over, cool, beans, thanks for posting.

@FatJoey

Ай бұрын

@@DrewBrashler yup..thank you for sharing.

we have a XR18 and we want to use digital plugins for our guitars, bass and vocals. from the DAW I mean. Also 5 stereo in-ear setups. Is it possible with this setup? If not, what would be your suggestion?

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Digital plugins as an insert on your channels would be no problem, you can do that via Waves SuperRack Performer: kzread.info/dash/bejne/n5OIqad_ftnKfqQ.html. For getting 5 stereo in-ear setups, you would need to swap to a different console, like the X32 Rack. The X-Air only has 6 mono auxes, the stereo main LR, and then 4 mono EFX sends. So it just isn't possible.

@berkayozbek8877

Ай бұрын

@@DrewBrashler Thanks! checked the video, really helpful one. If I got it right I can use more or less the same setup you show there with Gig Performer instead of Waves Super Rack, am I right?

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Absolutely! You can use any DAW in this manner, just make sure the buffer is small to get the lowest latency!

Also what is the advantage of this over using a relatively cheap splitter?

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

You can totally use a splitter, for a physical split rather than a digital, I think it would be a better way to do it. However you wouldn't be able to get the additional ultranet outputs without using the DN4816-O.

I have 6 band members can I get 6 stereo iem mixes And still be able to send horns background vocals separate

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

You would need to change to a different board to get 6 stereo IEM's, the X-Air only has 6 mono auxes, the stereo main LR, and then 4 mono EFX sends.

@sterlinghowell111

Ай бұрын

I’m asking cause I’m getting the Midas extension

sadly, the earliest signal tap is still post-gain... So it does'nt work as good as it should.

Why wouldn’t you just get p16 personal monitors. Seems like that’s the ultimate IEM rig… everyone has instant control of their own mix and is the simplest setup as well.

@ayay5340

Ай бұрын

Hey,thanks for this suggestion. When using multiple P16 with a P16D switch,Is the routing on XR18 the same as done in Drew's video or is there somewhere config to be done?

Thank you for the video but the fact that you look at somewhere else is extremely distracting :(

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Sorry that is a distraction, my left eye is blind and lazy, so its not actually looking at anything. lol!

@hossein_haeri

Ай бұрын

@@DrewBrashler ok, then I’m so sorry for saying that. I thought you were using some sort of screen to read the texts.

@DrewBrashler

Ай бұрын

Hah! I wish, that would be the ultimate teleprompter! No worries man!