Good discussion

amazing vid

No evidence of Him being born. This is why following anything with accordance to proof and evidence is so important.

One more 😭

@shehzilmoid8592

3 жыл бұрын

@Al Barbarī al Bakri al Umari what did u write

@123averageman

3 жыл бұрын

@Al Barbarī ابو يحيى البربري you lots ahklaq is poor. Imagine when someone calls you a deceptive muslim of how your reaction will be. If you are sincere use proof and evidences. This Deniz guy seems to run off when it comes to discussing from what I have seen in the comments. I say this as an ex-shia. However, the black and white thinking is problematic within this ummah and it may be that a significant amount of muslims are not educated or come from cultural backgrounds which do not propagate critical thinking. Shias are right about a lot of things historically which sunnis wont accept because it goes against the narrative of everything being rosy in Islamic history. Aqeedah is separate and I believe for the twelvers in particular there are issues such as infallibility which they cannot prove. However, they are muslim and it is disheartening to see Muslims slate other Muslims because of theological issues. Although I disagree with imamate as i dont believe there is any evidence I would back all the ahlulbayt all day everyday. Imam shafi once said if loving the ahlulbayt makes me a shia then I am a shia.

@Ali hazir Deniz, How authentic is the information regarding disappearance of one of the imams.

@aboutthat1440

3 жыл бұрын

How do you know he hasn't been born yet? That's a claim you cannot prove at this point.

@muhammadmalik2449

3 жыл бұрын

@Ali Hazar Deniz I am getting increasingly convinced that the religious sayings attributed to Prophet muhammad pbuh are used / misused by various religions groups to enhance their respective school of thought, and we the well meaning silent majority are caught unawares to follow through blindly and even make it an article of faith for which we are willing to lay our lives. Quran is the only arbitrator.

@Sayyidkadhimi

2 жыл бұрын

​@Ali Hazar Deniz We don't use the 12 ruler hadith to justify it, we use narrations to justify it you jahil

@ZahraZahra-by1br

5 ай бұрын

If Aisha were honorable, her children like you would be honorable

non c est pas la vérité il y a 12 Imams que la paix sur Eux et le dernier c est L Imam AL MAHDI paix sur LUI Fils de L IMAM Al ASKARI et qu ALLAH maudit les injustes les ennemis Du Prophètes paix sur Lui et da sa SAINTE Famille

Literally most of this is bs and easily refutable

@nexusgaia

25 күн бұрын

Ok refute it