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The Truth About Using Margin on Robinhood | 2024 Update

Margin investing is getting cheaper and more appealing, but at what cost? Is the risk worth the potential to get a reward? And what do we have to do to get the LOWEST margin rates around at 5.70%? Its pretty strange....
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0:00 Intro
0:24 In app offer
2:17 Margin risk
2:55 How much I can borrow
4:04 How to get the lowest margin rates
6:19 Continuing to setup my account
6:28 Hypothecation
8:16 Margin calls
9:02 Is margin a good idea
9:23 Final account setup
10:49 Will I use margin?
12:20 Secret
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Disclosure about Margin on Robinhood's Website:
Risk of Margin Disclosure
Margin borrowing increases your level of market risk, as a result it has the potential to magnify both your gains and losses. Before using margin, customers must determine whether this type of strategy is right for them given their investment objectives and risk tolerance. Regardless of the underlying value of the securities you purchased, you must repay your margin loan. Robinhood Financial can change their maintenance margin requirements at any time without prior notice. If the equity in your account falls below the minimum maintenance requirements (varies according to the security), you’ll have to deposit additional cash or acceptable collateral. If you fail to meet your minimums, Robinhood Financial may be forced to sell some or all of your securities, with or without your prior approval. For more information please see Robinhood Financial’s Margin Disclosure Statement, Margin Agreement and FINRA Investor Information.

Пікірлер: 95

  • @juanserrano3297
    @juanserrano32972 ай бұрын

    The reason someone would borrow millions on margin is to avoid selling their investments. To avoid a large tax bill.

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    2 ай бұрын

    I guess I assumed they would intend on paying back the loan, which undermines my understanding of the motive. I don't want to get charged 5-7% margin fees for the rest of my life because I paid myself to avoid a one time capital gains tax. But maybe that's why I'm not super rich and playing that game!

  • @delbomb3131

    @delbomb3131

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@BrendanEvanmargin interest is a write off.

  • @milleniallgt9715

    @milleniallgt9715

    2 ай бұрын

    You can also use it to purchase rental properties also

  • @delbomb3131

    @delbomb3131

    2 ай бұрын

    @@milleniallgt9715 another really big factor to consider is that many of the people with massive portfolios aquired many of their shares as options from their employment. You're given millions in shares tax free then take out margin to live your life on and write off the interest. Even better if you're on the board and get the company to pay dividends so the shares pay off your margin for you.

  • @seanwilliams7264

    @seanwilliams7264

    Ай бұрын

    I’m l😊pp😊😊

  • @jonathandowning9733
    @jonathandowning97332 ай бұрын

    To avoid capital gains tax if all one’s money is in assets.That’s what margin can be used because interest is less then paying taxes

  • @ShonryuB
    @ShonryuB2 ай бұрын

    Couldn’t you use the $1000 interest free to buy say JEPQ ETF with a dividend payout of 10.88% that pays monthly and make $9.06 a month off of it? If there is no interest on it when do they expect to get their $1000 back? Is it essentially if your brokerage account falls below $2k you need to pay it back? Seems odd they would essentially let you borrow money indefinitely. It also looks like a way to earn your $5 subscription fee with the right dividend yielding stocks and put a little back into your pocket.

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    2 ай бұрын

    In theory it seems that way, but I assume they have some way to make sure they aren't losing money on the deal.

  • @oleksandrbuksha4741

    @oleksandrbuksha4741

    2 ай бұрын

    Дайте руский перевод. Спасибо

  • @KaskoXeroVlogs
    @KaskoXeroVlogs2 ай бұрын

    Good video. The only thing you're wrong about is how margin calls work. In theory they could move the maintenance to 100% but if youre diversified correct that would be just one stock and your portfolio wont drop to a margin call

  • @ronybhowmik2713
    @ronybhowmik271317 күн бұрын

    They will not loan out your stock or sell it until you drop down below the margin maintenance

  • @mvloz113
    @mvloz1137 күн бұрын

    Instead of selling stock, borrow at 5-6% of interest vs pay the IRS 15%-20% with long term capital gains

  • @cliffdariff74
    @cliffdariff742 ай бұрын

    You have not showed us HOW to use margin.

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    2 ай бұрын

    I’m not a big fan of margin for the average investor, hence my lack of instruction

  • @jeremybrummel3254

    @jeremybrummel3254

    2 күн бұрын

    It would depend on the brokerage, their apps and websites have different formats. I'm not "too" worried about it. Since it's the stocks at stake essentially, I feel the worse case is starting from scratch in investing (as losing so much that selling all your stocks isn't enough to meet the margin debt feels extremely unlikely). Still, not planning on quitting my day job anytime soon until QQQY gives me enough Dividends to pay off my monthly expenses 4 fold.

  • @DP2004
    @DP20042 ай бұрын

    Maybe they do it to avoid taxes

  • @coreym846
    @coreym846Ай бұрын

    Your not seeing debt as a tool, debt is a tool it does require a different mindset. For most ppl they should first use margin to rid themselves of credit card debt. Then use that extra money to reinvest and pay off the margin

  • @CygnusHomes

    @CygnusHomes

    Ай бұрын

    This 100%

  • @keephiscommandmentsandlive9860

    @keephiscommandmentsandlive9860

    21 күн бұрын

    Wow can you tell me how that works because I have a BIG credit card debt??

  • @CygnusHomes

    @CygnusHomes

    21 күн бұрын

    You open a margin account, deposit cash and get your margin limit. The. You withdraw the margin and pay CC of with it. Word of warning make sure you have a significant buffer and a portfolio of solid stocks to avoid margin calls. I always hold 10% portfolio in sgov paying 5% but also very stable to help cushion any market downturn we're seeing this week.

  • @augustoalmeida2586
    @augustoalmeida25868 күн бұрын

    I increased my portfolio by 50% using margin during covid.

  • @aronKlay
    @aronKlay14 күн бұрын

    Great Video Brendan!! Quick Question: If 2 traders open identical 1 standard lot and 1 person has 1:2 leverage whilst another has 1:1000 leverage. Trade goes out-of-the money by 100 pips and both close their positions, who loses more? or do they both lose $1000 since both positions sizes were identical.

  • @investmentinsanity3712
    @investmentinsanity37122 ай бұрын

    I guess the question is, why would they loan it out to us rather than take the risk themselves, if it’s a good option? Seems odd to me

  • @robertkiddington4652

    @robertkiddington4652

    7 күн бұрын

    Diversification of risk

  • @Kyled6
    @Kyled6Ай бұрын

    I’m confused so to get margin called does your portfolio have to go down 25% or 50%? PLEASE HELP

  • @Blackjesussp

    @Blackjesussp

    Ай бұрын

    No I used like 90% 11k outta 14k . I know someone used 100% of margin . $250k. So I say it depends what you have total and money in case + what you invest in ❓

  • @Blackjesussp

    @Blackjesussp

    Ай бұрын

    Oh and I withdrew $2035 ( I pay about $2 a day %

  • @samyguindy3457

    @samyguindy3457

    20 күн бұрын

    @@Blackjesussp If you had 100,000 thaen borrow a 100,000 would they allow you to take 100,000 out and then just use only 100,000 to invest and pay the monthly bill or whatever it is

  • @YIWOTY
    @YIWOTY2 ай бұрын

    It's pretty standard for your initial margin on most investments to be 50%. Then maintenance margin is typically 25% before you get a margin call. And that's for Reg T margin. If you get approved for portfolio margin, you may be eligible to borrow a higher percentage if the broker's systems say your portfolio isn't too correlated.

  • @chcowboy5410
    @chcowboy54103 күн бұрын

    It’s not a losing battle if it’s cash flow that’s good debt.

  • @tyshawnstacksjackson5621
    @tyshawnstacksjackson56217 күн бұрын

    Can i use the money when I switch to a cash account

  • @lluneytune
    @lluneytuneАй бұрын

    Hypothecation is standard practice on margin brokerage accounts! You could only have a margin call if your equity falls below the required maintenance percentage!

  • @alcubes2000
    @alcubes2000Ай бұрын

    LIKED the video, there are good & horrific strategies you can apply utilizing Margin to your advantage generating income consistently, however you must be familiar with good entries, options and most importantly the underlying stock (s) your planning to invest with. Trust me I learned the hard way, but once you figure out a good strategy Margin can become an income generating machine! Good luck to all! Not financial advice!!

  • @yieldmaxetfreview
    @yieldmaxetfreviewАй бұрын

    Can you use all the margin, or will they come back and say you can only use 50% of it?

  • @blakeM193
    @blakeM1932 ай бұрын

    Has there been anymore updates as to when the 1% Deposit Match launches? Seems like they're taking a long time to flip the switch on that.

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    2 ай бұрын

    I haven’t seen a date yet

  • @averyminya

    @averyminya

    Ай бұрын

    I just started getting them a week or two ago, so it seems like it's finally out

  • @aprillynmoon9225
    @aprillynmoon9225Ай бұрын

    So will need balance on my account. I don’t have any because it’s all on stocks

  • @mrbigcat9
    @mrbigcat9Ай бұрын

    IBK Pro margin rate is in line with Robinhood?

  • @KICKOFFFOOTBALL
    @KICKOFFFOOTBALLАй бұрын

    Can you use margin and withdraw it cash?

  • @preciadojaws

    @preciadojaws

    Ай бұрын

    No

  • @CFH298

    @CFH298

    Ай бұрын

    If you have dividends that are deposited into your account you can. But you can’t just have a margin amount set and withdraw to cash.

  • @YIWOTY
    @YIWOTY2 ай бұрын

    My Robinhood account says 6.5% margin rate currently. I guess that means I'll be paying more, if I choose to use it (unless I borrow over $100K).

  • @joelarce4799
    @joelarce4799Ай бұрын

    How do I give the money back

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    Ай бұрын

    Pay off the margin. Deposit money

  • @user-id8ux5fk3n

    @user-id8ux5fk3n

    8 күн бұрын

    @@BrendanEvan I deposit money and it doubles my deposit why that happens? I am on margin

  • @c0nconc0n18
    @c0nconc0n182 ай бұрын

    I'm getting 2k interest free with Gold?

  • @mikeskordynski

    @mikeskordynski

    2 ай бұрын

    Same

  • @matthewkesky8150

    @matthewkesky8150

    2 ай бұрын

    I am as well. But I'm also using 90k.

  • @c0nconc0n18

    @c0nconc0n18

    2 ай бұрын

    Found the explanation - limited time for select gold members. Lucky me

  • @averyminya
    @averyminyaАй бұрын

    The only interest I have in margin is that first $1,000 for interest free, and you can set your margin limit to $1,000. From what I understand, it seems like you can basically get a free $5 (paying for Gold) by investing that in a high monthly dividend (USFR, TFLO, or SDHC or whichever). Then when you're done with RH Gold, sell that dividend stock and repay the margin? I'm also new to margin, I've just come across this in my research, but it seems like the only downside would be that margin call you mentioned. Is that something that's common?

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    22 күн бұрын

    Maybe so! I am actually tempted to try it...

  • @averyminya

    @averyminya

    21 күн бұрын

    @@BrendanEvan I can't say for sure because I'm not tax expert, but from my understanding it seems like there are few drawbacks, if any. It seems like the only potentially "risk" could be when/if they do a margin call. However, I am under the impression (again, no expert) that is a circumstance that might happen if you use the margin on volatile stocks, like the tech stocks right now, and that getting margin calls is less common on non-volatile stocks and ETFs, like USFR as mentioned. If you happen to do any research on this and come across something definitive, I would love to hear your opinion! All that said, I do think they try to make that $1,000 margin as a perk for paying for Gold, so outside of the margin call my main concern would just be the tax implications. Something else that's funny which I didn't realize is they base your margin off your ability to pay it. I applied out of curiosity once and my maximum allotted margin? $12... LOL. Had about $2,100 invested at the time

  • @joec1920
    @joec19202 ай бұрын

    If you own bonds, it doesn't make sense to use margin because you're both longing and shorting debt, which is inefficient. In other words, using margin is the opposite of owning bonds, which are used to lower risk but also lower average returns.

  • @mere_cat

    @mere_cat

    2 ай бұрын

    Tell that to the banks! LOL

  • @elizabeths.3634
    @elizabeths.36342 ай бұрын

    No thanks on the margin. Great explanation and I agree with your final decision.

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    2 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @BigcountryReactions
    @BigcountryReactionsАй бұрын

    lol I did it and it said I can borrow 0 yet I got 12k in rh

  • @xavierjones9777

    @xavierjones9777

    Ай бұрын

    Because you need to make more money 💰

  • @BigcountryReactions

    @BigcountryReactions

    Ай бұрын

    @@xavierjones9777 yea I make enough I’m good don’t need to borrow anything

  • @notcesar2786
    @notcesar27862 ай бұрын

    How do I close down the margin account? I don’t ever want to use it nor get taxed interest on it.

  • @Josh_Livi

    @Josh_Livi

    13 күн бұрын

    Pay off the margin and then disable the account

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    12 күн бұрын

    You can also switch from a margin account to a cash account

  • @ShortboyKennel
    @ShortboyKennel2 ай бұрын

    It's because they are in bed with with hedge funds, with cat system coming out they will have to be accountable for finding real shares to cover synthetic shares

  • @AlkQubit
    @AlkQubit2 ай бұрын

    Can’t you take that free $1,000 in margin and put it to work in T-Bill ETF?

  • @yorxs2

    @yorxs2

    2 ай бұрын

    I put my interest free margin (you get $2000 interest free for the next 3 months) in SGOV. It's dividend covers my Gold fee plus then some and it is low risk.

  • @mere_cat
    @mere_cat2 ай бұрын

    I too would like to know who is using margin on a $50 million account. Maybe leveraging up their call options on GameStop? 😂 But seriously, you could just take the free $1000 and put it in the brokerage account earning 5%. Or buy some $BIL or $TFLO. Not really advisable for anything else except maybe an emergency.

  • @Timeus
    @Timeus2 ай бұрын

    Where's the liquor and ladies? 😂

  • @ErikSaidWHAT
    @ErikSaidWHATАй бұрын

    Rich people use debt to there advantage..

  • @jesus-xr9yo
    @jesus-xr9yo2 ай бұрын

    You get charged per day, it shows how much you get charged each day, and you pay every month, on settings it has a great layout. If you don't have enough money to pay on due date, robinhood has the right to sell any of your stocks and etfs to get their money.

  • @9thebigcool

    @9thebigcool

    2 ай бұрын

    Minor clarification. While you get charged per day, but that interest is not due until the end of the month

  • @jesus-xr9yo

    @jesus-xr9yo

    2 ай бұрын

    @@9thebigcool yes, it adds everyday, goes up and down depending on how much you use. Pretty simple and fair and before using it, it gives us risks and rewards

  • @electrodynamicorb6548
    @electrodynamicorb65482 ай бұрын

    Is it worth using margin on the upcoming NVIDIA stock split?

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    2 ай бұрын

    I have a feeling you want to based on asking the question, and I'm not a financial advisor so you do whatever you're comfortable with. Whether you do or you don't let us know how it goes!

  • @IvanPlayStation4LiFe

    @IvanPlayStation4LiFe

    Ай бұрын

    no

  • @user-es6zn8re2z

    @user-es6zn8re2z

    22 күн бұрын

    U could’ve made 20%

  • @TexanBlake
    @TexanBlakeАй бұрын

    $1,000 interest free is a great deal....

  • @BrendanEvan

    @BrendanEvan

    Ай бұрын

    NGL I AM tempted to stash it in something to generate income

  • @hulkman4004
    @hulkman40042 ай бұрын

    lol its still 6.75 nobody putting in that much.

  • @mikebarker4218
    @mikebarker42182 ай бұрын

    Burrito!! Burrrrritoooo!

  • @fearlessreview
    @fearlessreviewАй бұрын

    30s, I also don’t want to lose my @ss

  • @i21boy
    @i21boy18 күн бұрын

    burrito

  • @joannemeeks745
    @joannemeeks7452 ай бұрын

    🌯 🌯 🌯

  • @drewsavala8886
    @drewsavala888625 күн бұрын

    I don’t think that’s what they meant by securities. I think securities are considered shares not money.