People think we live in a free country🤦‍♂️

It’s not like this in my county in Ky. Matter of fact, we have a cabin on our property with an outhouse, no running water or electricity. Nothing has been said about it!

@LesageGeno

Жыл бұрын

What county?

@extendedpinky

5 ай бұрын

Same here. We do whatever

@randallbanta2021

10 күн бұрын

yet

I ran into all the same issues here in Wisconsin. And like you the septic is the straw that broke the camels back. Ironically, I’m looking at a parcel in eastern Kentucky. Looks like I need to call the county and ask some questions. Sometime I feel like we’d be better off if we just went to the property and didn’t pull any permits and just did what we wanted.

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

Yes I would definitely call the county. You might be OK in eastern Kentucky. As far as I know a lot of the laws are state laws not county. But it’s worth a phone call for sure.

@bradleylayton1741

Жыл бұрын

Not that I have tried but you don't need to permit anything but the kicker is when you go to sell you can not advertise the work you did if it's not permitted. Kentucky has fairly lose laws and it's the county that decides the building laws. If you live near a big city or surrounding county then you could rink into this but if your a few counties out then you might be OK. That was your bad for not doing your research before buying. Your Realtor should have helped you in this department too

@robertlee6781

Жыл бұрын

Look at Lewis county. No zoning there.

@dwightcurrie8316

Жыл бұрын

Sometimes it's better to ask Forgiveness, rather than Permission...BUT.....That Rarely Applies to City, County or State Building Regs. That's a nightmare just waiting to happen

Damn brother I'm here to hear that. How about a piece of land in Kentucky or a year ago is located in Manchester, Kentucky they told me I don't have any zoning any building restrictions now I'm a little bit concerned. It's so hard to look for freedom and run away from the hamster wheel race.

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

It definitely is. The thing is some county’s may be less strict, but there is still the ky state codes .

@joplinst1642

Жыл бұрын

I'm in grayson county and they are pretty relaxed here...people live in junk campers and get away with it here. Main thing they change was no longer allowing holding tanks. I wonder if it's close to Cincinnati and they are preventing this, because of future development

@dm-jf5uu

Жыл бұрын

I just had enough with everything too many lies everywhere can't afford anything anymore

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

Good luck brother

I agree man, government is many words but thieves is prolly the best word to use. But I'm sorry to hear all that your going thru. Hope it gets better for you brother..God bless and take care

Couldnt agree more...too much government!

It’s extortion. Ive spent the last four years preparing to move off grid and permitting has been the only thing holding me back from moving forward. I’ve come to the realization that my life is ticking away and I can’t waste what I still have left or exert any more energy and effort into trying to please the system that has extorted, oppressed and denied me my right to pursue such dreams and aspirations. As you said there is no making the government happy, they will always want more control, more power and will always resort to enforcing said control and power over is citizens or subjects to maintain their power. To move and life this way means we stop producing equitable, profitable capital for the ruling elites that lobby, legislate and enforce such policies and laws. If we stop paying their rent and utilities, move out of their cities and pay less of their taxes and expenses they charge us just to exist let alone to live that would be the death of the ruling elite. They need subjects to rule over and to work for them in order to maintain their wealth and power. It’s time for social reform and it starts with us the people from the bottom up. They can’t kick us all off of our own properties, they can’t force us all to submit. Just an attempt by the government to enforce this upon us would be the end of it and the start of something new. We should not be forced to conform to their every whim and continue to line their pockets. If they refuse to properly represent us and provide the people that wish to live this way the opportunity to do so then it’s the peoples responsibility to take a stand against such subjugation and to maintain and ensure our families prosperous futures, liberties and unalienable rights. In our life time these changes will come we have just arrived early. I wish you and everyone on their journey through these turbulent waters safe travels, that everyone reaches the shores they aim to reach and most importantly that they remember to enjoy the journey along the way even through all of its storms, challenges and obstacles it throws at you as most in this world never even set sail let alone envision the dream.

I appreciate your thoughts and I’m sorry you had the run around. Thanks for the heads up on all that. KZread randomly recommended your video so now I’ll go see what you ended up doing after this.

@JasonandLauraoffgrid

7 күн бұрын

What county in Kentucky?

My buddy built a mud hut. Running water and septic. No permit. No problems. Clay County Kentucky

@Will1998

7 ай бұрын

I started looking down there

Estill County Kentucky has no restrictions on what you can do with your property. Lots of rough land in the eastern part of the county above Ravenna.Kentucky.

Thanks for the heads up!!!

Governments all over are completely out of control.

Sue the county/township. State law trumps county, constitution trumps the state. Ya know...life, liberty, happiness. "....inherent inalienable rights from their creator."

Prayers for your little family 👪 🙏 ❤️ And you are right.

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

Thank you !

I guess it depends what county, because my city and county, I already spoke to them and are no regulations at all

@angelarasmussen1800

Жыл бұрын

What county ?

yeah the septic thing is real in kentucky from what I am reading online. it is illegal to have an outhouse or any other non-septic system. It's also illegal to build your own without permits. however, i'm also reading that some counties have no enforcement ability due to lack of staff. So it kinda goes unnoticed in some counties. figuring out those counties is going to be the hard part for some of us like myself who's looking to go there for retirement to get away from teh government nonsense

Sounds like either Northern Ky or western Ky. You need to come out to southeast Ky in the mountains. It’s a whole different world out here. Less government involvement!

@extendedpinky

5 ай бұрын

I’m in western in the county. Carefree here

I really appreciate the truth I knew ky had some many rules

Same thing is in Florida and Virginia too many rules

Sounds like Alaska might be a better option.

@morgantully6424

Жыл бұрын

Alaska is one of the hardest to go off grid. The winters make solar bad and freeze the rivers, and it has the shortest growing season. You have to really know what you are doing or have a very expensive setup.

My friend, I completely understand your frustration and I want to help! Just to let you know, FYI, I’m a retired county building inspector in southern Indiana. The building codes everywhere are confusing and frustrating, here is why; there are two different codes that can be adopted by a state, city or county! Usually the state legislature adopts a specific international building code for the state. Then each county in the larger cities can adopt that building code for their city or county as is, or with deletions of specific portions of the code and/or they can add more stringent codes! Here in Indiana out of 92 counties, I believe there are still three counties that have never adopted a building code therefore allowing the people that live in those counties to build anything they want in any style or method that they choose and everything is completely legal. Greene County in Indiana was one of those counties and I forgot the other two. Every county in every state makes a decision on whether they want to have building codes or not and how strict they’re going to be. Usually the more popular the county is for residences the more strict the building codes are, the less popular the county is, the less strict building codes are if there are building codes at all! States, counties, and cities can choose to require that the contractors are certified or licensed in their specific trade such as plumbers electricians HVAC contractors and the like. this commonly can require a residency type learning structure with a proven work history just to allow you the opportunity to take the test to become a contractor in that location. other places allow anyone to do the work no matter how unqualified they are! This is a double edge sword for people who wanna build their own home like you do. The reason is let’s say you build a home not knowing what you’re doing and you’re having all kinds of electrical troubles or plumbing problems or mold and mildew and water leaks and rot and you hide it and sell the house to someone else that assumes the house is OK. Building permits and inspections helps society overall. I’ve been to inspectors seminars and met lots of inspectors that were complete buffoons and others that I was thoroughly impressed with their knowledge. As far as the health department that you mentioned and trying to have a septic system and leach fields, those are also incredibly important because for example the farm I bought had a house up on the hill and a septic tank some distance from the back of the house and the affluent that came out just ran down the hill. There was no leach field! The neighbors downwind had to smell this raw sewage constantly. I had it completely dug up and a new system installed properly. The original work was done before the health department started issuing permits and doing inspections on septic systems in the late 70s. How would you like to be my neighbor and smell raw sewage every day? As I said earlier I’m sorry about your frustration but what you’re getting into is a double edge sword. I really hope that I’ve given you some answers and made it easier to understand some of the frustrations that you’ve had. I also hope that others read this will learn from it and understand how to handle these problems. Here are my suggestions; Visit the inspectors at their office. Ask smart questions. Ask for suggestions. Make written notes! Learn codes, ask more questions. Tell the inspector what you intend to do, ask if that will pass inspection or is there an easier way? If you are going to build a house, this is not kindergarten, it’s the real world, you must know what you are doing and do the work correctly. After all, why are there building codes??? They are designed to keep the occupants safe and secure, and to protect the structure from known and unknown forces. (high wind, flood, fire, electrical shock, water pipes bursting, sewage stoppages, tornado, hurricane, heat & cool comfort, rot, mold and reduce utility consumption) yes a portion of the building code gives minimum requirements for R value! Building codes are protection!

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir! I appreciate that.

Thanks bro!

I just stumbled on to your video im so sorry that happened to you i agree with you 100 percent they are way too much into our lives

Don’t give up !! Figure out we’re to go ,take a breather , do it !!

Dude I’m about to build in mercer county, I hope I don’t see anyone in my property, my land my bizz

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

Your further south. You might be okay. Buy more than 10 acres , if they ask everything is for farm use only.

@lynndietz490

Жыл бұрын

@@Will1998 True. I have family that live in Whitley Co which is KY, TN border. Very small town and yep same deal permits etc. Hubby and I looked at a house in Corbin a few yr's ago. Even though it felt like country it was city limits. House was cheap enough but wow the taxes were really high. Tax rate the same as NKY. I was shocked ! Even though we are old now I would still like to find about 20 acres if not more. Then put up a pole barn and finish it out. Honestly were waiting for another crash and hopefully find some land then. It's coming maybe a couple 3 yr's but it's coming. Price has just gotten stupid outrageous cost even down way south !

@tedgreen7547

Жыл бұрын

where you from brother mercer county is great

@Bullkie

Жыл бұрын

@@tedgreen7547 I'm moving from Austin, TX the place i got is in Harrodsburg to be exact, i spoke with health department and looks like i poked the wasps nest, i guess i have to have them check the soil to see if i can have a regular septic or a lagoon which i really dont like the sound of that...

Agree. Many counties in KY have so many regulations. Sounds like you live in Boone county. An tons of expense getting all the permits. And what we experienced in Boone Co if you don't use one of the local contractors they will keep failing you and local contractors are very expensive. It's so bad outside contractors don't want to do anything in the county. Can't swear to this but our neighbor told us even going solar the county doesn't allow you to go off grid that you have to stay hooked to the system. We also have been told we can not dig a well nor put in a sceptic system. We live in the city but right over the line so zoned county. It's better to go way further south to get away from all this BS. You can do more around the KY TN line. Problem is then there isn't much places to work. Wish I knew where you were we might be interested in buying.

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

I was in grant county. Right Below Boone county. I sold the property already

@lynndietz490

Жыл бұрын

@@Will1998 O bummer but tks for replying. I grew up in Grant Co. You think they are bad be glad you didn't buy in Boone Co. LOL And I don't care what they say it's all in who you know as to what you can get by with..Just seems to me every county has a good O boy system.

Depends on the County you live in. Here in Casey County KY I didn't have to get any permits except a septic and electric permit Its easier here in Casey County Kentucky

Sorry it didn’t work out. Where are you headed to now?

We have had the opposite experience! Choose the right county. No zoning, no building codes, no permits. (Except for sewer verification and electrical inspection) our county is amazing! We love it here. The local government does not mess with its citizens.

@ksenia6846

8 ай бұрын

Which country?

@andrewnewman1510

8 ай бұрын

Generally you must have a permitted septic or they wont hook up elec.

I'm so sorry they did this 😔

Agree with you

You dont own it if youre paying on it. Also, Ky has a lot of contaminated ground water issues. I dont completely disagree with you but some intervention is needed or everyone would be shitting in the creek. If you move, do more research prior to buying.

@insertnamehere8121

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. If you have to continue to pay for something that you bought, you don’t own it. Instead you’ve been forced into pseudo leasing it from whatever entity you’re forced to pay

If you encountered those kinds of problems in Kentucky, you should probably not try to homestead in Fayette or Jefferson County. 90% of Kentucky is basically permit less except for city water hookups and electric.

My county you can do whatever you want to IN the county. Not in the city. County is free for all long as you’re not doing anything illegal.

I think you made some personal enemies with the county because I know people who lives In Kentucky and they haven’t had any problems living off grid.

What about indiana???

the octopuss has manty tentacles

I agree 99.9%. While it could be a safety thing for you and others for the most part the beuracracy and taxes are punitive.

Dang. Definitely must be where you are. We are in KY. No one gives a flying poo here. Sorry you had to deal with all that crap - 100% with ya on the taxes. For a while we were even living on someone elses property (with permission) in shed conversions, using composting toilets and hauling water from the river for our water...visible from the road and not a dang word.

It is the county you live in. I live in Breckenridge County and there are only electric and septic if you have more than a certain amount of acres. Hardin has all kind of permits and restrictions.

@colemanremington4964

5 ай бұрын

Lived in Hardin county for a while and can confirm 110%, the amount of restrictions, required permits, etc is beyond asinine! Moved back to Hart county and dont plan to ever leave again!

@anothertime2023

5 ай бұрын

@@colemanremington4964 don’t blame you!

Yes, Kentucky is pretty strict on building codes for new construction and development. But if you go east of Harlan, and drive through the hollers to the state line of Virginia, you’ll see why they don’t want people to compound the problem that has been going on for centuries. I highly suggest your homestead plan has an economic, educational, public land use or improvement that benefits the surrounding communities. If you tell the state and the county that you want to buy some land and build a shack to live on, they’re going to tell you they have enough people living in shacks. However, if you are building a handful of cabins and you plan to live in one and rent the others to tourists near the national forest, you are going to have an educational center, a native habitat, that you’re hoping KDNR want to use your creek as a fish hatchery, or this is going to serve a legitimate economic purpose beyond the scope of living in a shack or cabin in the hills and hollers, they are going to be more open to the idea.

@samspade9980

4 ай бұрын

I'm not exactly who you are or where you are, but your idiocy is rampant. I've been a builder in Kentucky for over 40 years, and every word you just said is not only a lie, but it reeks of socialist dogma. You should probably go check your gender of privilege or something.....

look at Marshall County ky

Estill County KY is pretty laid back. Just 20 miles from Richmond KY.

Totally agree on your govt beliefs.

Why do people not check ALL of the requirements of building before you make any land purchase?!?!?!

I live in TN and when i work in KY i sleep in my car to save money. I also do it in Ohio and Michigan. KY cops are the most strict with people sleeping in their car.

@TheCharleseye

Жыл бұрын

Rent a small camping spot and you'll still be saving a lot of money over renting a hotel. Or, you can park at a Walmart and sleep there.

What about the amish? They don't even have electricity.

They suck ,money money and more money

@richardmurley8976

Жыл бұрын

and more and more and more and then they give it away to another country. and make their self rich

Sounds like you need to live in eastern ky. We don't have those issues here

Let me guess you went to Fayette county or Louisville!😊

Clay county kentucky is the place to live off grid

I was looking to move there ! Small homestead ! I was

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t

@mrFalconlem

9 ай бұрын

read my new comment on this post at the top and u will be fine

Totally agree THE GOVERNMENT SUCKS. Ran into the same issues here in western North Carolina and sold the property I bought to do the same thing.

@Will1998

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, they have way too much control over us

Uncle sam gets richer while poor get poorer. I think its a knee slapper how they can tell us what to do with our land we bought and worked for... smfh. But this why if we dont do alaska and we end up doing kentucky im look into something already built with land and make sure the majors like septic, electrical, plumbing and foundation is good. Im sorry you had go through this. Now i see why my pal pal a vietnam vet says the only good government is a dead government.

Your forgetting the best part of living in Kentucky what they don't know won't hurtem if not fill an envelope

@mrFalconlem

9 ай бұрын

exactly, many are on the take , donations always appreciated😂

Good luck finding a place to build a house where you do not have to deal with the local/county/state government. It is not just Kentucky. Let me ask you this. Would you buy a house from someone that built it without following any type of building codes using whatever materials they wanted and how they went about assembling it? I sure would not.

@TheCharleseye

Жыл бұрын

More importantly, would you want your neighbors being able to poison the water table by just dumping their raw sewage directly into the ground? I believe in the Do No Harm principle of Libertarianism. Regulations about septic systems help ensure people are doing no harm to their neighbors' drinking water.

@firefalcon100

Ай бұрын

@@TheCharleseye what do you think septic systems do? It breaks down the solid waste and then drops it directly into the ground where the dirt filters it as it goes into the ground water.

@TheCharleseye

Ай бұрын

@@firefalcon100 That's a good way of explaining septic systems...except for the whole part where the tank holds onto the toxic sludge that can't be broken down and has to be pumped out every few years. It's almost as though there's a reason we started using septic systems instead of just holes in the ground.

Live on your land it’s yours

You’re welcome!😂

I’m sorry

Move to clay county no building restrictions

@Will1998

8 ай бұрын

I have been looking for land down there.

@premierrealty80

8 ай бұрын

I bought 30+ acres there spoke with the county and pva office as well the county lawyers and they said that there are no building restrictions and I can do anything I want

@premierrealty80

8 ай бұрын

But to get cheap land it's going to be in the mountain hollers

@premierrealty80

8 ай бұрын

Everyone has a right to live on their land and be left alone without government control which is getting harder each day

You picked the wrong part of Kentucky. Southeastern Kentucky and you won't have those kind of problems. You must have picked western or northern. It's not the state, just the part you're in.

Look for unrestricted properties

@Will1998

7 ай бұрын

That’s what we are doing

@mattwernecke2342

7 ай бұрын

@Will1998 I've been looking all over the country. I've been sleeping in the front seat of my prius for about 4 years trying to save money. I'm a rideshare driver. The pay is now no longer worth it. I'm burned out and tired of the GA climate. I'm not willing to pay 1500 a month in rent. The real estate in GA sucks.

You should name the county to keep other people from making the same mistake.

@LWYOffGridHomestead

9 ай бұрын

Grant county...above or near Boone county

Yeah u def shouldnt of made any calls lol

You're talking about County restrictions, not State. You picked the wrong County. There are 120 Counties in Kentucky, all with their own laws. I understand your view on being left to your own devices on your own land but it's your own fault for buying land in a County without researching that County's zoning and housing laws. As for your future plans, if they require permits for the remodel, you're just back in the same situation. Do yourself a favor and actually learn something about the County you want to buy in _before_ you buy another property.

The truth about living off grid is that you didn’t do your homework. Your parents didn’t teach you laws and finances. Don’t blame anyone but yourself and your fancy truck. The younger generation thinks they can do what they want and there are no consequences. Learn your lesson the hard way.

@bourbonrebel5515

Жыл бұрын

That’s literally every new generation buddy. It’s nothing new. Your generation wasn’t any better.

@kaneingram6490

Жыл бұрын

What a asshole thing to say

@firefalcon100

Ай бұрын

@@bourbonrebel5515 yeah, that is true, only it was different things we thought we could do better.

You are not off grid

@firefalcon100

Ай бұрын

yeah, i'm curious as to why he's needing electric, driveway, building and all that if he's living off grid.

This is absolutely false. You need to live in unincorporated land. We have no zoning…at all. It doesn’t exist. The issue is, you were in the wrong area .