I am always excited when USOG uploads videos on Bolt actions. Excellent job ! I imagine mike as a curator in a firearms museum, I especially LOVE his videos on hunting rifles and Rifle design, I cannot say enough positive things about him and the channel... I got my wife to watch a video or two of his, her replie was "Wow, this guy is as crazy into guns as you, people could really learn alot watching the channel"

model of 1917 - pattern 1914 are my favorite mauser, but i get a thrill from the brazilian 7x57 mauser oberndorfen and the swedish model 96 m42 husky/gustav is pretty exceptional.

@PhilHewkin

4 жыл бұрын

@Superdude70 Im no expert but I can read ok, on a 1935 model 98 it says OBERDORFEN! Maybe somebody back when merely intended to mess with your knowledge base! happens all the time. You MUST acquire several model 1917 enfeild. I recommend a nice customized scoped version, with a bedded action. I have seen MANY such print sub moa @ 100 yd even with the barrel cut down to 22" !

I really liked this one. Great summary of the bolt actions. Also, I just wanted to say, your videos are so refreshing. You're just the nicest man. I wish more people acted like that right now. So many people angry for petty things. Keep doing what you're doing.

You are bound to trigger the clank monsters in this video. Lol!

@jimf1964

4 жыл бұрын

M E Doesn't every video trigger someone?

@Iceaxehikes

4 жыл бұрын

@@jimf1964 true. Specifically referring to those that comment about him knocking the steel barrels together. He has rebutted several times even saying; "they (rifles) are pretty tough."

Excellent work 👍🏻

Thank you again for the channel. In Spain we had a nacional sport rifle. Sure you know the Santabárbara. M98 and all the features of the Mauser. The only added was a hair trigger. Excellent barrel quality similar to old Mauser barrels, Brno, Mannlicher. Was the same armory of the Cetme. Right now in the States, but only with the Cetme. In second hand (it depends on the model) are affordable and I would be happy to send you a "specimen" but the rules... Maybe you have already a copy.

I love this channel n content. Thank you so much this is gold 🎉

Good Morning Mike! A very precise & concise video on a subject in which we all tend to get jumbled up. Hope All is Well @ Your end and things are improving

I'm rewatching this great video and learn even more the second time. I'm sure you don't have time to read comments from old videos. But just wanted to thank you again. You have an incredible mind.

You are a man of GREAT patience... Thanks

I've been around alot of guns all my life, but hats off to you. Not only do know your stuff, you also own it !

thank you for your hard work on this. so many things to know and keept track of. wow.

Another great video, thanks for taking your time and going at a speed that is conducive to my pre senior citizen mind capacity.

"That one...well, anyway." I admire your self-control, and wouldn't want to be across the Poker table from you! And THANKS for all the prep you put into your videos, even before they yell "ACTION!" ; )

Like all your stuff, excellent and informative Im grateful there are folks like you on you tube.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Lee - I"m glad you're here.

I honestly believe this to be amongst your very best videos. Thank you.

Having watched USOG for a long time, I have become somewhat familiar with the large variation in bolt action construction. And while you can classify bolt actions into two simple types, push feed and controlled feed, there are differences within these two types. I give the example of my Win M70 which I recently sold, having a 3 position "wing" safety and my Ruger M77 which has a 2 position tang safety, and yet they are both controlled feed. Great video Mike!

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Glad you are here : ) I remember you from the very beginning! All the best to you.

Thank you Mike. It's always great to have a Model 98 as the benchmark. Great presentation today.

As allways superb video!!!

Your doing a great job keeping facts straight, thank you sir

Just to increase your valve sir, your patience to be bombarded with these questions and still remain calm is truly a gift. Thank you for your time and effort. Please take care and happy Father’s Day.

The opening was perhaps the most entertaining thing I have watched in a long time, lol! Thank you for compiling that list!

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Lots of ideas out there.

Educational! Thank you for this video.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you...a bit detailed but I tried.

Thank you sir. I learned a lot.

I just realised the mauser and springfield both have built in pillers on the bottom metal!!! 😳 perfect

This never boards me. I love learning about history of firearms design

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

Жыл бұрын

Thanks John

master class about bolt action rifles ... very rare in youtube

Knowledgeable, to the point, profound, patient, and generous, more importantly, clear and intelligible.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bernardo - I am humbled by your kind words.

Very informative thank you

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Rahul.

Ha ha ! Those quotes are hilarious ! Good work 😎

The Mauser brothers had genius minds. I’ve never found a Mauser action that didn’t perform perfectly and do so in a safe and robust design. Mauser set the standard that has been copied for well over 100 years. Thank you for a wonderful video, Mike! I could watch and listen to this for the rest of my life!

@trapdoorspringfieldmodel1888

4 жыл бұрын

No doubt they were both brilliant, but even the best can still have issues happen. For example the Mauser C98 seemingly lacked sufficient protection for an out of battery detonation, and that would cost Peter Paul von Mauser his left eye and a broken finger. kzread.info/dash/bejne/pZ5oxpaPdZPfeaw.html

Hopefully this video and the others you make in this series will help to clear up some of the misconceptions people have regarding bolt action rifles. Mistakes and errors in information do happen, and none of us are immune. The key thing is whether someone is wanting to learn when they are presented with the actual facts. Thank you and those behind the scenes for the video, and continue on staying safe.

Great presentation as always Mike. Those opening comments gave me a laugh. So, all Rifles are German? It`s true what they say, You live and Learn🤣. Cheers Mike.

@grassroot011

4 жыл бұрын

Well some live, but some never learn,,, be nice if they did. Opinions get in the way.

Thank you! Learned lots, looking forward to the next segment also. A two piece firing pin, like that’s an improvement🙈I’m not a fan of cyanoacrylate, mostly because I don’t like the smell. I use permatex ultra black gasket maker for things that may need to be removed in the future, or sometimes I skip right to JB Weld if it doesn’t need to come apart again. Stay safe. Keep up the good work!

no thank you . i'm so glad i found this channel

AMAZING VIDEOS....ABSOLUTELY

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

To me it’s amazing what people say and the things that believe about guns .

Those comments seem like trolling. But if they are reason for interesting video, they had some purpose, I guess.

Swiss K31 will always be my favorite

Did not know about the unsupported case head in the pre-64 Win. I guess I will just be satisfied with my 98's! Cheers!

My favorite bolt gun is a cheap one and is a Marlin 22m.Accurate, well made and always goes bang.I like it better than the Mausers and BRNO's ,I have owned, and it shoots better as well.I won't compare it to the exotic guns in your possession, but it holds it's own at my house, with my modest collection.

Very good video, my only comment would be the FN Mauser you had as the base line. It looked to me as a military and not civilian, it has the notch in the receiver for the thumb when using a stripper clip. My commercial FN doesn't have it. I own a few bolt guns, Winchester, Remington, FN, Lee Endfield and CZ's.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Gregory - you're right : )

This might be a silly or obvious question... but, the bolt handles, having the bend in them, are those cast that way, with the bend in them, or cast or machined straight, and then bent afterwords by any means of either being heated then bent, or simply cold bent.. ? Thank you

The bolt action was perfected in 1898. That's just the way it is.

Mike, I own a Tikka M558 in 22-250. A nice, accurate, smooth and dependable rifle... not of the genre in this video, though birthed from the giants. If you have a M558 in your collection, I would love to watch and learn from your expert comparison to similar genre rifles. Thanks, Marc

It was not the K98, but an earlier model that Springfield was paying a royalty for because of patent infringements. I like what you said about never having a Mauser not work. I was always partial to military rifles for deer because we hunt hard in rough country. My favorites are reworked Arisakas, another rifle that copied much of the Mauser. The one problem with controlled feed is it will pick up a much shorter cartridge with about the same rim diameter and will fire it. I stupidly did this with a 6.5 Japanese in a 6.5x55 chamber. I got away with it, but have worked on rifles where the shooter was not so lucky.

Do you have any idea where a man could find a surplus 98 action? All I need is the bare receiver. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!

Wonderful video! I could spend hours, if not days, comparing and contrasting all of those different bolt action rifles. The details on the bolts, extractors, ejectors, bolt release, locking lugs, triggers and safeties all vary, and it would be fascinating to look at all the variations side by side. At the end of the day, the fundamental concept is Mauser’s. Much like so many locking breach semiautomatic pistols go back to John Browning’s tilting barrel design. There is one minor point on which I have to disagree with you. A conical breach does *NOT* have to leave the case head unsupported. At least not any more than any other bold action breach. There must be enough room for the tip of the extractor to get past the extractor groove on any of these actions. Therefore, a small part of the base of the case is “unsupported”; however, it is aft of the interior of the cartridge case where powder expands upon ignition. That is completely different from Glock pistols where part of the case containing expanding powder IS unsupported and can cause the “Glock smile” in spent cases. (The American Rifle Company recently introduced a new action called the Coup de Grace which requires a conical breech for cartridges with cases/bullets below a certain diameter. The design appears to be necessary to allow for a specific double stacked magazine. That spurred vigorous discussions if not outright arguments on various gun forums.)

Out of all my bolt action rifles...my favorite are my non-rotating ...

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

2 ай бұрын

I hear you : )

Curious why wouldn't the cartridge blow with the cone shape chamber. You said part of the casing is unsupported.

Could you make a video on newer shotguns like the Remington V3, Winchester SX4 and so on? By the way have you ever been to SHOT show ? I don’t know if you’re aware but there’s a lot of people who upload videos to KZread like yourself that can attend because they’re considered in the industry. Would love to see more videos of you at the range . I love your descriptions and explanations but sometimes you just gotta shoot em ! Haha

Jeez high rollers gold plating the ammo with that brass gold

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

Жыл бұрын

: )

@REDNECKROOTS

Жыл бұрын

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I love watching ur channel man. This one really got me laughing 🤣. The wild stuff some come up with is priceless 😁

I saw on some other KZread video, guns, pistols, revolvers and rifles coming apart, bits flying offwhen being fired. It looked pretty dangerous, how common are these types of occurances. And what can you do to prevent these problems

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Fred, I haven't seen the videos but it is rare for parts to fly off of properly assembled guns. The odd time the bolt operating handle might work its way out of the bolt of a semi - but that is very rare. If a scope base or rings are not tightened enough they might let go - but that's pilot error. Please send a link to whichever videos you have in mind and I can have a look and maybe say something a little more interesting. All the best.

I'm having trouble identifying a rifle. The markings simply say coast to coast 30-06 made in usa the only other marking is the SN. It is a push feed with a large tapered block with a push safety on the rear of the bolt. It operates like a tang safety but its located on the bolt. Do you have any idea who may have made it for coast to coast? Thanks

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Randall - Probably a Mossberg 810 www.gunsamerica.com/963025194/Mossberg-Model-810-AHT-30-06-Bolt-Action.htm

Can you compare the modern day X-bolt with model 70?

Love bolt action rifles.

Please discuss primary extraction in this series. Are all bolt actions equal in that regard?

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Maxim - Best is the claw extractor of the 98 - the grip on the base of the cartridge case is massive ; and the camming action of the bolt makes extraction a near certainty.

If you have time a drilling action video would be fascinating. I bought a milling machine and heat tear over with high hopes. Also if you have ever done investment grade casting. That be a great video

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

2 жыл бұрын

Will do - thank you!

Great visual feast! Lots of unscrew and screw in I bet.

Comment no5 is true. Springfield owes nothing to Mauser because we happily paid them full royalties for the use of it. A dollar per rifle, or something like that until the full amount was paid. It was paid in full long before the start of the war. The dispute was over the spitzer round.

You take the esoteric and make it exoteric. Good on you.

Yup...those old FN Mouser action type rifles were low low costs in the 70s BUT low cost does not mean low quality...hand made and accurate...!!!

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

2 ай бұрын

Right on!

I sure hope those commenters are not reloading...!

Where do you store this all? You must have a massive vault. Your comments and reaction at beginning...I can tell you are one not to offend anyone but I can tell your eyes were rolling inside!

Don't feel bad. I read some of the comments I get and they have me sitting there with my mouth like a fly trap.

Surplus bolts?! How and why does one "accumulate" additional bolts for a particular rifle? Perhaps, one collected a military version and converted it to a sporter? What kind of advantage/disadvantage does collecting bolts offer, and does it affect the rifle value? Thanks for sharing such useful content.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Clay, I probably just meant "bolts" as in bolt action rifles. Once in awhile I come across a Mauser bolt on its own - these are often from military surplus parts and never were part of a rifle. Other bolts I find may be from rifles that were parted out - barrel used up or something went wrong and the owner decided to sell the bolt as well. I buy them out of interest - no real use for them unless switching from a magnum to standard or smaller cal. and the suitable bolt is needed and one happens to have it. Hope this makes sense.

@claytopsoil522

4 жыл бұрын

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Thanks. I get that. I have a Prussian Sauer 1906 Springfield 30-06 with which the bolt is not Sprg, but rather a sporter. Obviously, I would prefer the original to preserve the value, yet wondered if the value suffered from other bolt types.

My SMLE is the same as my Model 67 Winchester 🧐

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

😂 mine as well.

“If I have seen a little further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants.” -Sir Isaac Newton

I just wish I could find an affordable 1903 or 1903a3 that hasn't been chopped or rebarreled.

That 1 u kinda gota wrap ur head around. 😂😂😂😂

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

Жыл бұрын

So true 😂

wow those comments wer um extra to say the least...i do see some similarity between the model 70 and the rem p17 and the ruger 77m2

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks TK

The fn u had there was a military mauser. Wasn't it? U have military action and sites. I have saw them made from fn for Columbia in 1950 51 and they had bent not straight bolts. They were also the only military mauser chambered in 30-06! They would've had a Columbian crest but most were ground before export! Under the barrel it said 30-06 spr pn rn pa. For import marks!

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

Жыл бұрын

You've got one of the greats - and I think you're right - I had an FN - I'm not sure as I sold 😢 Have a great weekend.

I once read that one criteria Mauser used when designing his action was the intelligence of the average German soldier. I won’t say they were necessarily of limited intellect but most were lacking in education. Most German soldiers in 19th and early 20th centuries had the equivalent of a 3rd grade education. I don’t have anything that actually documents this but it sounds plausible.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Sounds right to me Kenneth - One has to build any machine or just about anything to the standard of the least intelligent and least educated user. Anything more and people will say it doesn't work. : )

"why do they gold-plate ammunition.."

Yes, all of the comments have a certauin depth of truth to them But it is true that all modern bolt action rifles owe the heritage to the Mauser. No matter who made them or when they were made they are all Mauser variants. People have to make some kinds of small changes in order to receive any kind of a patent but it doesn't change the fact of where the action's basic operation comes from. It's kind of like a semi auto rifle, you could say that John Browning created all kinds of auto loading rifles made today.

So Many Sporters.....

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

It's true : )

My esteemed colleague; Blatantly wrong information cannot be shrugged off as '...difference of opinion...' @7:00 - 'Don't trust a safety' comes down from the days when safeties routinely blocked the trigger from being pulled. (Notably shotguns and some early rifles.) And only when the arm would be dropped or otherwise impacted enough to bounce the sear off. Used to be regularly some nitwit would tell me the Government Model I had in a holster, thumb safety engaged was a hazard as the arm might discharge at any time. And of course, his 'daddy' told him, so it was the Edict of God. I have to object. The P (Pattern 19)14 British .303 rifle was designed in the Royal Small Arms Factory to replace the SMLE rifle, and the production turned over - for several reasons - to a couple U. S. manufacturers One was the Eddystone plant from whence comes the name 'Eddystone'. It did have some features from the SMLE, but not a direct copy or adaptation thereof. That same rifle was later chambered in .30-06 Springfield and adopted as the U. S. M1917 Rifle. Anything with a "P" is - or was, if they've changed the system - adopted by the Government of Great Britain; the U. S. used M (for model) and the year of adoption as the item identifier. Controlled round feed system is a system - used notably in the Mauser designs - whereby the extractor engages the rim of the next round in the magazine and does not release that round or case until the bolt is opened fully and the fired case is ejected from the action. ONLY then can the next round in the magazine be introduced into the bolt, extractor and ultimately the chamber. The purpose was to prevent a soldier from getting hasty when firing the rifle, moving the bolt only partway back and not expelling the fired case, but attempting to force another live round from the magazine - causing a failure to function of a 'double feed'. This can easily be avoided by pulling the bolt completely to the rear before attempting to load from the magazine. Which is not always remembered when a belligerent is attempting to kill one or the bear is attacking or the record buck is running off into the underbrush. Bother Mauser settled the matter. Mannlicher! Ferdinand Ritter von Mannlicher had several rifle designs in production before 1898; ergo, prior to the master Mauser design. I trust you can tell by my tone I'm rather impressed with the Mannlicher designs. On that subject, I suggest the Mosin Nagant is copied more from the Mannlicher than the Mauser. Split rear receiver and bolt handle mounting and such.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

Detailed and comprehensive post OMM - thank you for taking the time to write. I was lucky this week and picked up a P14 in .358 Norma Magnum with a custom stock; the stock is cracked that the tang - which is common as you know. Also this week a Remington 03 Springfield again a custom gun; the original and unaltered military rifles are nice but I like the imagination and uniqueness of the custom rifles. I realize your were writing on other interesting matters. Please write again and all the best to you.

@OldManMontgomery

3 жыл бұрын

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I have a certain fondness for military rifles 'properly' and competently converted to sporting use. In the long ago, dusty time of pre and almost history, I think that is how 'sporting arms' began. The "Kentucky" or "Pennsylvania " rifle is obviously a modification - with cause - of the military rifle of the day. The P14 you found in .358 Norma should be quite useful (for larger applications). The P14 - M1917 actions are today recognized as one of the strongest actions ever designed; and have been since the action was released. The Springfield action has long in the U. S. been esteemed as a strong and smooth action, quite suitable for alterations in the hunting and target world. I love World War One infantry rifles and have found several that lend themselves to sporting use. And the cartridges from that era are more than just adequate. I could blather on - usually do - but I'll stop. I confess, your videos are always informative and I have a continuing interest in what you reveal.

I love Mauser.. but my long range accuracy buddy's are telling me Remington is more accurate.. I say, where did rem. Come from.. Idk

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Travis - The 700 is another push feed based on the Mauser but your buddy may well be right anyway.

@zoeyshoots

3 жыл бұрын

@@UnitedStatesOfGuns thank you sir...

This is not as you said "misinformation ". What it is though is a perfect example of " A little knowledge is dangerous ". It's amazing, back when diligent research and time produced answers and results people were better informed about subject matter as a whole. Today, with all information yours for the asking, literally, due to the internet, most seem to be to lazy to even bother to find basic answers. The .270 is the same as the .308 ?????????? Are you kidding? The .270 is a long action cartridge based on the .30-06 but necked down to take .277 " projectiles. The .308 is a short action cartridge that was developed to approximate the energy and speed of the longer .30- 06 by using slightly different case tapers and powder. Although the .270 is based on the .30-06, case deminsions are different and powder weights are different. Bullet weights typically are different for the most common loadings 130gn for .270 and 165gn for .30-06. The biggest factor they have in common are the .30-06 parent case and the case head size. But so do the .25-06, 7mm-08, .243, .35 Whelen,.280 Rem and many others. Each a different chambering with different muzzle energy, velocity in f.p.s, trajectories, ballistic coefficient and sectional density. They are not the same.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

Another excellent post Bob. Thanks again : )

nagant the same as the mauser system? blasphemy! :D and excuse me please, but the mauser trigger isn't that simple... :/ and also the extractor isn't the part that picks up the cartrigde - but it holds the cartrigde in place.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

Hello 666 - thanks for the corrections : )

Hi Mike, it's been a while. Interesting video concept today. A few observations if I may, and I will refrain from a dissertation. While arguably all bolt guns have a lineage back to the 98 Mauser, there are variations and exceptions, some of which are quite different in their execution. In no particular order we have the following. The Remington 700, a two lugged bolt like a Mauser but with an extractor recessed in the bolt face which is not open as is the Mauser, but recessed to support the cartridge case head. There is also a plunger type ejector in the bolt face. Unlike the model 70 and it's cone breech the M-700 uses what Remington calls three rings of steel to enclose and support the case head, the barrel, receiver ring and the recessed bolt face. The recoil lug on the Remington is a slip on is sandwiched between the barrel and the receiver, unlike the integral Mauser. An ingenious variation is the Savage 110. Essentially a Mauser type action it differs in that the bolt is designed completely different. The bolt head and it's locking lugs are pinned on. The the root of the bolt handle is behind the rear receiver bridge rather than in front, like most Mauser variations. The recoil lug here is a slip on type also sandwiched between the receiver, and the ingenious but simplistic barrel retaining nut. Now we can see locking lug variations with the multi lug arrangements like on Browning A-Bolt rifles and Tikka's. Some use 3 lugs for shorter bolt throw. Some use nine as are commonly used on AR pattern rifles. But with minor differences they all have Mauser lineage. What I consider to be the biggest leap from the Mauser in execution are rifles like the Colt Sauer, Sauer, and others that use a different concept for lockup. These employ locking lugs that act as flaps that engage recesses in the receiver. They are extended and retracted when the bolt handle is turned. Which in of itself seems to be a modification of the H&K method of roller locking, at least to me. Another variant uses hardened ball bearings that are pushed into recesses and retracted when the bolt is rotated. This makes for a very strong method of lockup but one that is complicated to machine and costly in price. Well there you have a brief overview of Mauser turnbolt variations and improvements. All variations of the same concept. But upon examination one can see that most semi autos bolts and lockup also derive their methods from that very same Mauser lineage. But that's another days discussion. Be safe.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

3 жыл бұрын

Great post Bob - thanks for taking the time.

but the courts found against the usa both for the cartridge the action , but ww1 voided the judgement. lolol both are beautiful actions though,

I would like a talk with the miserable soul that down-voted you.

@benjamindavidovichwaals2899

3 жыл бұрын

i guess he is the guy who wrote that .308 and .270 are the same cartridge, they are just different

@grandelfe

3 жыл бұрын

@@benjamindavidovichwaals2899 by a wopping .03 inch.

@benjamindavidovichwaals2899

3 жыл бұрын

@@grandelfe haha

Please tell me everything on that list was a joke.

@UnitedStatesOfGuns

4 жыл бұрын

I guess viewers have all kinds of ideas; in fairness - the extracts sound funnier than the whole message.