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@user-kh4xi4js7r

Жыл бұрын

私は、日本から見ています、Nikonにシネマカメラの歴史は、無く今後も発売は、コンシューマに限定されるでしょう🤔😅

This reminds me of how Panavison has been with film it took a long time to go digital and they still outsourced the sensor to Red but when it came to film especially35mm they were the go-to place because you knew the camera worked it was reliable and you image was going to be superior. You get what you pay for some times old tech is the best tech.

@gabrielmachadobsb

2 жыл бұрын

The image on film was not dependent on the camera, that's what the stock is for, and that's the kingdom of Kodak and Fujifilm But just like in digital you have the top line being Arri, RED, and Sony, in film you'd see pretty much all Panavision, Arri and Aaton cameras

@TheRainiercharles

2 жыл бұрын

@@gabrielmachadobsb I think it depends on a lot of variables & imax is king of film cameras lol

@thedave7760

Жыл бұрын

@@gabrielmachadobsb "The image on film was not dependent on the camera," You need to reconsider that.

@CraigBickerstaff

9 ай бұрын

@@thedave7760 No they don't, the same 35mm film stock runs through the most recent film cameras all the way back to the very olderst ones. The look comes from the lenses, and the film stock. In the era of film you didn't pick a camera for it's look, you picked it for it's useability and reliability. To use Panavision lenses you sort of have to go to Panavision but they're a rental house. I don't know if they have any Arri film cameras but they'll rent you an Arri Alexa.

Man, as a photographer I STILL to this day rock 2 different Fuji XT-1s, one in my kit for big work, and one I just throw in my jeep and treat like the rest of the tools and junk just in case I see something pretty. I love Fuji for their color tech, that's about it for me. The XT-4 I got just to get something more modern in their line. But it's their simplicity to just say "we make good heavy feeling cameras with really pretty colors" that keeps me grabbing for them. I have never had a time were I've held an event and thought "ya know what'd make these pictures better? Some cutting edge tech Nikon kit that'd cost more than a new Cummins" 9 times out of 10 I'm looking for new lenses. If not I'm checking out different programs or editing tricks to get what I want. Simplicity and the will to hold onto solid values of what makes a good camera good is what makes a good camera company a good camera company every time. Everything else is just superfluous gossip over features - that to be fair might be what you NEED to make you're company flow the way you need to help the way you want, but are just that, features. Good cameras are not built to be cutting edge, they built to be good cameras.

I bought a used Alexa Classic with a 2 year warranty. The price was really reasonable and the images wow me every time. I can use resolve’s super scale feature if I need to output 4k.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

That's awesome! I kind of want to test one out even an older one against some of my Blackmagic cameras!

@HonJazzz

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager If you're based in the northeast we could possibly make it happen.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@@HonJazzz Where in the northeast are you?

@HonJazzz

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager I’m in Jersey, but I’m often working on projects in NYC and Philly.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@@HonJazzz oh cool! I'm in South Carolina but most of my clients are out of state and I travel through the northeast a lot. If I ever come around we should hang out!

Arri basically gets their priorities right in terms of what a cine cam should be and is not pressured by market forces due to their industry leading product, which most consumer camera manufacturer cant do since they have to deal with a lot of competition. I'd like to see more competition in the cinema camera industry, maybe RED and Panavision can team up and make the ultimate cinema camera with high resolution and dynamic range. I love the motion graphics in this video, especially that projector look you have in the beginning of the video

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! And appreciate it! I do all of my graphics inside Adobe premiere 👀 but it's a big part of how I like to make content

@jm1jonas

2 жыл бұрын

Red and Panavision already work together, Panavisions DXL2 Camera is basically a Red Ranger body with the Monstro sensor but different internals and image processing.

@remka2000

11 ай бұрын

Anything but Red if possible

Having more than 14 stops of dynamic range, and more than 14 bit color depth, are more important than most people think.

VIDEO NOTE: It has been brought to my attention that the picture I used for Franz Kraus is actually Filmmaker Ang Lee! Feeling like an idiot 😅 Now that I've gone back to actually find another photo of it I'm realizing that ARRI mislabeled a bunch of photos to be Franz Kraus 😂😂😂 So APOLOGIES FOR THAT MISTAKE! ENJOY THE REST OF THE VIDEO

@chuk1331

2 жыл бұрын

Do let us know which photo was mislabelled and we shall correct it, thank you. Carlos from ARRI

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@@chuk1331 hey! It's actually on your 100th year page. It actually shows several other famous directors as being Franz Kraus 😂 I'd just never seen a picture of Ang Lee. I can send you some screenshots if you'd like!

I think companies who aren't arri need to work on their sensors instead of resolutions. Like arri colors and the way they handle light and shadows like film is the way to go.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

They could but some of it is a business decision too. They have to sell more cameras and keep up with everyone around them. ARRI never has really had to ever rush production on anything. You could blame the consumer market on that or look at it from a other non ARRI companies push camera tech where it's never been before. Even if it isn't a good camera, was it still worth it because it progresses tech further?

@A10Jedi

2 жыл бұрын

Other companies can easily compare to Arri. Arri literally let’s most big productions use gear for free or cheap to get smaller productions to rent their stuff

I’m a 50 years old movies lover from Italy and last week I finally took home an old ARRI ALEXA CLASSIC. It’s a 5200 hours ex-rental camera, totally serviced by ARRI at Munich last year, and with many accessories. It records only 2K, is cumbersome, is heavy, built and colored like a war tank. But I just don’t care… After owning BLACKMAGIC, CANON and SONY, this was my dream. And is finally a reality. The next step is to find an old external ARRIRAW recorder like CODEX or CONVERGENT DESIGN. But I’m in no hurry. Cheers from Italy.

You already caught that you have a picture of Ang Lee there... so... Yeah, Arri claimed 14 stops for years when RED claimed 16.5. People tested and said Arri was being conservative and was really pulling more like 15 stops. Red however was overhyping and was pulling more like 14 stops. So, there's that. Great video! Glad you did this.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

DANG ARRI. Guess they're not a reputable source after all haha RED pulling their old tricks! And appreciate it!

@JaspreetSinghArtist

2 жыл бұрын

nowdays evrry Mirrorless camera manufacturer is like our new model give 15+ stop dynamic range. pre order now. 😂

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@@JaspreetSinghArtist 💯💯💯 always wait for the nerds to come out and test it 😂

@JaspreetSinghArtist

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager CineD have those nerds. but i still find people on internet who think Red Komodo have 15 stop dynamic range and 6k pro have average dynamic range.

@annekedebruyn7797

2 жыл бұрын

Arri never claimed 14 stops. They claimed 14+ stops. This is because Arri's 14 (and a bit) stops is actually useable. RED's claims of 16.5 are real. But you lose a a lot since those are in noise regions. In short, RED is actually more accurate in their description from a scientific standpoint while Arri will tell you what you can expect in a final image. Big difference. Neither is wrong.

the last project i edited and graded was shot on BMPCC4K and an Alexa LF, and its just hard to describe how much better that Alexa is. Despite the 2k res, it damn near feels like I'm coloring film when I work with it. Noiseless. Buttery soft and sharp simultaneously. literally could have thrown a film conversion lut onto it and would have been happy with the grade. I honestly thought it was just "old heads" glorifying this camera, but it really is just different.

@RavikantRai21490

Жыл бұрын

Then there's the fact that the bmpcc accomplishes a pretty stellar image for being, what, oh, yeah .... 2% of the price of the Alexa LF. So, uh, $1500-$2000 vs nearly $100,000

Bro love your style. Laid back, funny. Subbed. Keep killing it!

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Videos like this make me want to get an old used arri to play around with.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Same 😭

@catleatherwood4770

2 жыл бұрын

Out of all digital bodies, an old Alexa isn’t the worst way to throw your money.

@wakkowarner8810

Ай бұрын

I finally got an alexa studio camera with optical viewfinder and set of pl mount primes for under $8k thank you alexa 35 for driving the price of old arri cameras down.

Great stuff. I’ve learned a lot from KZreadrs gushing/cringing over the latest greatest perfectest camera but I always think in the back of my mind that we are just watching modern infomercials. They get forced into the “game” because they are trying (understandably) to make a sustainable channel therefore have to join in on the tech gushing/cringing or they would be left behind in views etc. Not saying modern infomercials are bad. But. Really enjoy when people ALSO make good educational and enlightening content like this.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! Yeah, I try to come around to content like this here and there just even to ground myself in some of the ideas this video talks about. It's fun content to make

Great talk, man! that camera is a piece of gold. Thanks for sharing so much info! Cheers

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Great Talk... Love your videos... One thing a lot of people forgot human skills are more important that gear specs resolution... the most important fact is how good you play the instrument you use to create and you play with...I am a classical musician Violinist and Viola Player...trained hours daily since I was 8...discipline failure analysis improvement of skills that what make some better at what he is doing...not better gears... I did had for 2 years loan a Guarneri Violine insured 1 Million € it was very nice but I did come back to an Modern Instrument which for me was better and I could even buy it... let be honest if you make videos for leaving even partially it is a job like another... By the way more I work with one camera less I want to change...(and still in love with BMPCC4K)...still hunting for a camera with better resolution and better or some kid of AF...GH6 maybe for the price here...I am invested in MFT so logical choice...and still somehow I don't like the FF look...but GH6 for 2000 vs used BMPCC6K for 1100???that s a good question...Arri is for me like the Porsche 911 would love to drive but I finished with 20year VW Jetta so kind of GH5 😂😂

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Oh absolutely! It's almost all about skill, experience, and just getting out there and doing it. I mean it's crazy for even me just to look back and see how much better I am at making video content then I used to be a year ago. Even 6 months ago. BUt it is a job like no other for sure! It's hard between the p4k and the GH6 tbh. I'm trying to get my hands on a GH6 to do a test between BMD and that camera.

Fantastic break down and study of arri. As well as mentioning the importance of tuning out the noise.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Hey man just found your channel here recently and just saying the quality of your videos is amazing, also so informative, but yeah man keep it up really enjoyed these!

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that! Have a lot of fun making these videos!

@nickjohnson8169

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager oh of course, I'm majoring in film rn, so these are pretty helpful!

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@@nickjohnson8169 awesome! Hope to see you around the channel more!

This is great. I hope your channel grows! I am amazed what an iPhone, filmic pro and moment lenses can do. Maybe one day I’ll have the privilege of using a proper cinema camera in my filmmaking endeavors…

@thekaiser4333

Жыл бұрын

Professionals don't buy. They rent. If you want a cine camera, rent one. The rental house will show you what you need to know.

@NOTLeavingLV

Жыл бұрын

@@thekaiser4333 well in some instances you cannot even buy as I have learned. Seeing Arri at the NAB in vegas was amazing.

@thekaiser4333

Жыл бұрын

@@NOTLeavingLV I work for Arri. Of course you can buy. But I would not advise it. Rent one with a proper lens. In case the camera gets dropped or stolen and that happens all the time, it is not your problem. You simply rent another one for your next project. You can't buy Panavision or IMAX. If you want to own a camera get a T3i with Magic Lantern or a BMPCC4K. Or if you have too much money a Sony Alpha. Do your homework with that and if you teally have to, rent an Alexa Mini for your actual shoot. However, in filmmaking it is more important what is in front of the lens than what is behind it. Fimmaking is about painting with light, not about cool cameras. Leonardo DaVinci did the outline for the Mona Lisa with a piece of charcoal for 5 cents.

Nice tips! thanks for sharing

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

that 18k BM camera got me excited for the box form factor. I wish they would just do it already

Great Vid! Good Info too

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

I certainly don't trust camera manufacturers' claims of dynamic range. But the most egregious is RED. They completely ignore the noise floor and usable dynamic range, always claiming 16+ stops! Sure, that's the sensor's hypothetical dynamic range, but not the actual dynamic range. Canon and Sony only seem to make claims about dynamic range in stills mode. So, at least they don't make ridiculous claims like RED.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Yeahhhh, and ARRI generally under reports its Dynamic Range. Mostly because they aren't really competing with anyone lol

@ginotarabotto

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t know much, but knowing RED is the camera of choice of the great David Fincher, who could probably do any job in film production as well the crew, I really see RED as the closest to Arri.

Pro tip if you are on a budget but still want arri-like image quality: get the sony a7siii with the phantom LUTs. The image quality is almost indestinguishable from arri but at a much lower cost.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Good to know!

@OmniVisionElite

2 жыл бұрын

instead of blackmagic?

Great video, I love Arri cams so much. Any body got any tips ideas how to make other camera's motion cadence close to Arri's smooth motion cadence, is there a way to do it in post. I'm basically really trying to get rid of video look movement in my footage, I find that using ND filters, shooting at low shutter, adding LUTs, slowing down footage a tinch and also adding some grain helps quiet alot

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Yeahhhhhh, I think those tricks you are using work well. Really just experimenting with things. I mean half these filmmakers like with The Batman and Dune are processing their digital videos on to film and then back to digital to get a better look as well.

@DanWilliamRooney

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager thank you! Omg I can't believe they are still doing that I thought they only transfered to film for a couple of years after arri alexa classic was released. I watched The Batman and I noticed that they shot everything so slowly, even the Acting, the walking, talking etc was soon slow, couldn't stop thinking this was all done to make just smoother motion cadence. I want to buy an arri classic but maybe renting might be a better choice and just do tests with a bmpcc 6k.

Man, this is a really great perspective.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! I enjoy doing videos like this from time to time. Helps me to remember that perspective too 😂

Fantastic work here.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

Arri is like Mercedes, in terms of quality and price. But if they start chasing that almighty dollar like Mercedes tried to then they can compromise and fall just like any other company.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely! There is something to be said about maintaining quality and consistency over time. Hopefully they keep doing what they do best!

FWIW the professional range (and I mean the actual pro line. Not the prosumer) of Sony, Canon and Panasonic (Varicam) is a pretty accurate regarding specs and line up to what you expect with other cameras.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

True! I think I was more approaching this video to those who have to deal with more prosumer cameras. But that's a fair point!

This was extremely well done. Agree on the dynamic range / useable image vs newest specs and resolution too. I’m constantly chasing DR on the lower cost cams and in my opinion, RED (obviously) and Blackmagic seem to be getting closest to that ARRI image at a lower price point. Imho anyway.

@JustAshleyDanielle

2 жыл бұрын

Black magic? Nah. Sony fx6 is killing the game.

@ColorfieldMedia

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustAshleyDanielle if you like all of your actors to look like aliens. :-)

@JustAshleyDanielle

2 жыл бұрын

@@ColorfieldMedia aliens where? Never had any of my actors looks like aliens. Just crisp clear footage. I love this camera and it’s a real cinema camera not a mirrorless.

@ColorfieldMedia

2 жыл бұрын

​@@JustAshleyDanielle The newer Sony cams are definitely better but for the most part (except for the Venice), Sony skin tones stink and I can pick out Sony footage from a mile away. To each their own.

@JustAshleyDanielle

2 жыл бұрын

@@ColorfieldMedia that’s why they make lutz. As far as practicality Sony is winning.

This was very well put together. I hope someone at ARRI will eventually see it and let you know how they like it! You have a new subscriber, and by the quality of this video, it looks like I will become also a member pretty soon 😎 I have (what feels like) a very stupid question: Are all movies filmed with ARRI cameras upscaled to 4K? Haven-t we got to a point where simulated picture grain is being so overused that it makes bigger resolutions pointless? Upscaling AI technology is getting so good, and improving so fast, that might catch up faster than inconvenient stupidly high resolutions, and could become the go-to option (for series/movies and everything cinematic). If that's the case, ARRI backing off from the 4K camera release is a MASTER MOVE. I can see Studios in a few years doing what is commonly done in recording / mixing / mastering studios: They bounce the mix master bus, or even the song 2 track master, to real 2-track analog tape, and then back to digital, to get a real warm and analog feel, instead of using digitally modeled Tape FX. That means the con back to digital conversion can be done at the highest possible resolution and sample rate settings, regardless of the ones used prior to the DA conversion (On tracks, mixing, & mastering) I can easily see the Movie Industry sticking to ARRI's 2K cameras for years to come. And them, a final Digital to Film reel transfer + back again to Digital (they can scan it back in 16K if they want!!) would be a nice last touch + No fake grain involved in the process. But I'm just thinking out loud. I could be totally wrong for what I know 😅 I'm no expert...

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Appreciate the subscribe! As far as upscaling to 4k. I believe that happens sometimes and other times movies aren't in 4k resolution. I think a lot of time on TV they are but at theatres it's a bit different. But at the end of the day, lower resolution can look just as good as higher resolution depending on how it was filmed. Higher the bitrate, higher the image quality. But tbh, ARRI footage just looks good and really their attention to fine tuning their codecs is what is great!

@notgabriel

2 жыл бұрын

Your point about printing digital footage onto film is something that's already happening in the industry! This process is called a "film out" where its exactly as you described. Printing the footage onto the film of your choice (and budget) then scanning that back as digital

@sonidojamon

2 жыл бұрын

@@notgabriel Thanks!! Good to know!!!

Nikon didn't stand a chance in that battle 😆

@JaspreetSinghArtist

2 жыл бұрын

people can't use it so they complaint about it.😂😂 BTW Nikon going to release N-Raw this year. if its going to be similar to B-Raw then things will change a lot.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

haha I actually kind of forgot I made Nikon get the brunt of the attack until I put it on KZread lol

@Dennis94913

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, nikon stuck on developing the dslr platform, resulting in them playing catch up with Canon.

nice lamp

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

🪔👀 thanks

I totally agree & endorse this video. Arri is probably my dream camera to get one day.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

They make some nice cameras for sure!

Thank you for being a voice of reason , the resolution game has gotten ridiculous

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

No problem! I still love that they are pushing the resolution tech, it's fascinating some of the use cases but always a good reminder that quality is not fully reliant on resolution

I think there is a potentially another element of this to consider. Arri (not unlike Sony with the Venice Camera) set out to make cinema cameras for cinema crews, ones that were already working with film cameras at the time. And you're right they took a no compromise approach to the sensor design to gain a close to if not better filmic image with film like dynamic range. It meant, at the time, brute forcing the digital to analog converters (by including two of them) and reading back the sensor data twice, at different gain settings. Even today Sony doesn't feel the need to do this, and instead prioritized low noise pre amps and dual gain, vs combining each signal path like Arri. BUT, and this is a big BUT. Arri, like the Venice, was designed for crews! Sure it beats the RED in dynamic range and reliability, but it also beat red in the physical workflow with crews. It had power distribution for follow focus motors, it had room on the body to put accessories, room for multiple ac's to work, proper balance support. And it would withstand similar temperature ranges like their tried and true film cameras (good luck having a reliable RED camera experience in 100F). So I think it's really the combination of factors that led to their dominance. There were a number of digital style cinema cameras in the past that pushed the limits of image quality and dynamic range, but only Arri combined that with amazing ergonomics for crews (not single operators), amazing durability and a true on set workflow. Oh, and one more thing! Arri's sensor still, to this day, scans faster than most cameras out there (besides global shutter sensors). It's 2ms-4ms response time, decimates the competition. And they use that scan time, even at 24fps. I think this is an element of the secret sauce for Arri cameras. It's not just the dynamic range, but it's also the motion cadence. They way motion blur renders on an alexa is just subtly different when compared to RED or Sony. And, if I'm honest, that secret sauce might have more impact than you can imagine.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's so hard to even cover in one video all the ways ARRI just goes above and beyond in their craft of making cameras. Just incredible. I might try and get into ARRI's history a bit more here at somepoint soon.

@avdcam

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager If you did an entire video analyzing rolling shutter and it's impact in motion cadence, I'd watch it!! Lol, but totally great content. I think a fair followup could be the obligatory "wtf are cinema cameras so big/different than everything else" etc etc. I think it's a story not told enough, that to work with a team on set you just need that little more kit, power, room to rig and work, and small cameras just make that a real pain in the butt.

@avdcam

2 жыл бұрын

oh also, check out In Depth Cine's video on this very subject! kzread.info/dash/bejne/n2SnudCfqri_nco.html he works as an AC, and talks about how the ergonomics had a pretty big factor in choosing the Alexa as a cine camera.

If they dropped an affordable 4k cam that would change the game for us little guys.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

haha they'd join in on the fray below at that point. But yeah, I doubt they care about prosumers lol

@logiknotlogic6586

2 жыл бұрын

Blackmagic cameras are available and their colours are similar to arri

@Florianski

2 жыл бұрын

Just get the sony a7siii with the phantom luts. basically a pocket sized arri.

3:30 wasnt the 6k Arri Alexa 65 relesed in 2014?

This video is in top 3 most important videos regarding videography and gear. Im very sad I haven’t seen it before. Subscribed for your vision mate.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it! Actually just released it like 3 weeks ago so you haven't missed it for too long!

@EmreYazgin

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager Im glad i’ve found your channel then ;) Not many people look things from different perspective. ARRI is a company that spans decades back, 1936? maybe even earlier..They are synonymous with movie making in many aspects. They are like gibson and fender of guitars. All modern guitars imitate either a gibson or a fender :)

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@@EmreYazgin I'm a big step back and gain perspective from a lot of different people kinda person. I think that the best way to do it!

Great video, we often get so caught up in the tech, I know I have plenty of times and still catch myself doing it. If you master the fundamentals of story telling - creativity, lighting, framing, scene setting, communication, editing etc - you will captivate the audience. Thanks for the reminder!

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

No problem! And nothing wrong with getting caught up in the new tech, because new tech is AWESOME. But you do have to ground yourself when it comes to making decisions and figuring out where to spend a lot of your time!

@luketannous

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager wise words! Continue what you are doing, it makes such a difference in a word where we crave the latest tech to get the edge and forget the substance that actual creates great work!

One of these days, I'll download some raw footage from ARRI and have a look see. It's available. That'll be fun!

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

ARRI RAW seems great!

damn, the title made me watch the video

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

haha is that a good thing or bad thing?

I am very happy with my Alexa mini LF and use it on almost every project 😊🥰.🙈🙉

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

I'm guessing... Sarcasm? haha

@josiastroeps987

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager I have a favor for toxic sarcasm 😂🙌🏻 At least when it comes to your comment section 🤭🤩

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

@Josias Troeps 😂 I like it!

I wish Nikon would release a CinemaNEF codec

I own one and I love it

thex also have the shake and bake prozess were the camera gets into machine to simulate a long drive and heating the kamera up and down to proof the work in th desert or antarctica. they do this to every camera bevore shipping

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! forgot about that process. They really do go the extra mile with these cameras done they?

@andreasmerk577

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager there is a german KZreadr who told about that in a documentary m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/mZx3krCJd6XFgqw.html Maybe you can watch it with sub titles there is also a short sequence of the machine

Comparing ARRI to consumer electronics is like comparing a space shuttle with fireworks manufactured in china.

Hi bro big fan bro.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Hey! Appreciate it! Hope to see you around the channel!

Ari is market number 1 for cinema due to it,s science research and development of better cameras. Thus making the life of DOP easier.

i just wish arri would drop a sub $2000 BMPCC style camera, even if it was just 1080p it would be an absolute game changer

I have used it once. we rented it for one music video.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

Nice! How'd you like it?

@JaspreetSinghArtist

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager i was excited about using it. but here they send 2 guys with camera. you tell them what settings you need which lens lens you want to use so they change the lenses and settings. so its wasn't a very personal type experience which you used to have with other cameras. but it was a great experience for me it was like dream come true. and learnt a lot from that project.

@JaspreetSinghArtist

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager before shoot i spent time on ARRI website. they have a section where you can learn about all the menu and everything. so it helped me to tell rental house guys what settings i need.

the new s35 is planned to be announced in march this year greatings from Munich

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

March is almost over haha

@andreasmerk577

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager sorry there is a typing mistake, I wanted to type may

makes me feel better about buying a mini

I love Arri, but I think the amount of difference in picture quality between it and say a Nikon or Sony (not to mention Red) when you have on the SAME LENS is really little, dare I say minimal. I firmly believe you give either footage to a professional colorist, and you will be hard pressed to tell the difference.

@Florianski

2 жыл бұрын

Facts.

@chrisw5742

2 жыл бұрын

cough cough EOS-M with Magic Lantern user here :-P

I've yet to feel a mighty need to shoot something that looks like desaturated gopro footage.

That isn't Franz Kraus. That's Filmmaker Ang Lee! lol

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

WHOOPS... just went back and checked lol someone labeled his photo wrong 😂😂😂😂😂

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

That's what I get for trying to quote people lol

@TheMinistryFilmworksEST2018

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyager 😂

Alexa has 4K capability

What about Panavision?

@catleatherwood4770

2 жыл бұрын

They’re film cameras are second only to Arri’s. However, the DXL’s have been weak. The camera “brains” are either Panasonic or RED and tend to have those weaknesses as well as power issues. Panavision still makes great lenses, but their electronic gear leads a lot to be desired. Source: I’m a camera assistant who’s worked with Panavision film and digital cameras as well as Arri and other brands

@Nooely

2 жыл бұрын

@@catleatherwood4770 I agree at every point you said 👍 However, many movies or commercials are shot on the Dxls so I would have at least mentioned them. I could technically say the same about Phantoms or Aton cameras, but I guess they are less known. Source: Austrian DP (sometimes 1Ac) wo has also worked on digital, 16 and 65 mm film cameras :)

I work with Alexa’s and Amira’s every day, honestly, there’s not much to study lol.

*sees title* "Well duh, cause it's the best"

seems to be very windy in your studio ...

seems like a fanboi video

Always liked RED better.

Imma shoot film.

Haha no one else have come close to an Arri? Okay

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

You can totally make a subjective argument over style or look of the image but as far as the ARRI standard on manufacturing and how they painstakingly research, design, and test these cameras, you don't really hear other camera companies following a similar path.

Did anyone check the thumbnail for this video, before publication? The AI generated human has like 6 or 7 fingers per hand. 🤣

Arreee?

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha yes, I always say the name wrong lol

Ahh yes, good old AI art on the thumbnail. Good to see it still can't properly do hands.

Professionals don't buy. They rent. If you want an Arri, rent one.

How much more resolution do people need? Too much resolution looks like SHIT. Example: The Matrix Resurrections. We need to go in the OPPOSITE direction.

@kidcoma1340

2 жыл бұрын

That has not much to do with resolution, but with lens choice, lighting, and various other sensor characteristics. Perceived sharpness =|= resolution. For example, a 4K OLED will look sharper than an 8K LED TV, because it can render small dark details better and with more (micro-)contrast.

Your audio peaks the entire video, man. On top of that it's really loud. Had to turn it down to 8% to avoid hearing loss.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

😂 what are you listening to it on? Odd because it's mastered to -8db on every video so it's nowhere close to peaking

@DiegeticAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Yea, no. Sounds like you have something Gain Staged incorrectly, or a blown speaker/ headphone driver. Sounds fantastic on my Presonus R80s.

@aleksoctop

2 жыл бұрын

@@FrameVoyagerNot sure what's up, I'm on a UA Apollo Twin with a pair of JBLs. It was peaking into red like 90% of the time yesterday, today it seems the same volume (about twice the volume of anything else I throw at it) but doesn't peak anymore, so not sure.

@FrameVoyager

2 жыл бұрын

KZread is can be weird with audio sometimes. Compression sucks

German Quality - again.

Can ya stop with AI thumbnails 😭 pay digital artist ffs or make it yourself have some dignity