Excellent video. There's a note about the Code of Honor though. It's more than just handshakes. There's 5 rules that make up the Code of Honor: 1. You must shake hands before and after every match 2. No outside interference 3. No sneak attacks 4. No harming the officials 5. Any action resulting in a disqualification violates the Code of Honor On paper, those are all normal wrestling rules but ROH presented them in a way that they actually felt like they meant something so when the rules were broken, it helped the heel generate more heat. That sounds dumb now, but you have to remember that ROH formed in 2002, right after the fall of ECW and WWE just started to shift away from the Attitude Era into Ruthless Aggression. Wrestling was still living in the "let's make everything a hardcore match" mentality that permeated late 90's/early 2000's wrestling, especially with the rise of indie companies like CZW and IWA-Mid South. ROH's decision to go against the grain of the time and present actual wrestling with actual rules was considered radical for the time and the presentation of the Code of Honor was part of that. They downplayed it a bit in later years and seems to be pretty non-existent under Tony Khan, but back then, it was a major part of the overall presentation of ROH.

@Brando-Lee3725

Жыл бұрын

You NAILEDIT !!! IT was SO REFRESHING ! It filled the void left by ECW in a whole new way ! I bought Era of Honor Begins and 2or 3 more DVDs in one lick and was hooked !!!

This was great, Jack! Thanks for bringing back those amazing memories. 03-08 ROH is still easily my favorite era of any wrestling company. A lot of the last decades biggest stars of WWE (and even AEW now) and the backstage employees behind them in some cases all young and going balls to the wall in an environment that grew with them and with the fans.

I believe CM Punk was a Big THREAT to some WWE stars at that time. It's 1 of the reasons they treated him so unceremoniously. He was good for business 🤝, The WWE Universe adored him & WWE Management always believed in giving the fans what they wanted!! I'm not sure if it will ever happen ( more importantly I don't think CM Punk would even care) but, Punk should be inducted into The WWE Hall of Fame canyons. He gave so much to the fans & WWE on general 😊

@phabiorules

Жыл бұрын

I think he will be. He is too much of a legend not to be. I mean, look at everyone who had heat with Vince McMahon and still made it in.

@eddieparker945

Жыл бұрын

@@phabiorules I don't think it's Vince who had a problem with Punk, however, There was a problem with a certain IN-LAW of Mr. McMahon's who did alone with Jon Cena. Punk was promised a Wrestling Championship match at the next WrestleMania if he wrestled The Undertaker. A deal's a deal dispike personal feeling & it's bad 😞 business 🤝- 👎 when it isn't honor. Furthermore, it's extremely Petty Minded when you fired the man on his wedding 💒 day!! That's a ⚫ 👁️ on The WWE each year CM Punk's presence isn't 👀 in The WWE Universe!!

This was an excellent video - we gotta get that ROH tape library streaming service.

@rogregg29445

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

Dear Jack, Never stop - I love all your retrospectives

CM Punk is in my Top 5 of all time, he just shakes the game every time he appears

@franklingoodwin

Жыл бұрын

How so? I like CM Punk but there's so much revisionist history where he's concerned and his place in Pro wrestling. That's based on how fanatical most CM Punk are. You could say they're stans or marks if you will. There are so many wrestlers that have more influence from that era that were in ROH. Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels did more in ROH and you have the likes of Bryan Danielson and Nigel McGuiness

@MaxwellMatthews

Жыл бұрын

@@franklingoodwin I'm young lol, the era of WWE I was into at the time is just different from the admittedly little if what I know from the past of it.

@christopherdoroba8724

Жыл бұрын

I didn't like him when he first came on the scene but at the time I had checked out of wrestling because WWE had got boring and I didn't really know about ROH at the time. After WCW and ECW sold to WWF and my cousin (Rocko Rock) passed away I checked out of wrestling. Now he's one of my favorites thanks to these channels on KZread that make sure you know the history. Everything he's done in AEW has been awesome and I'm loving him having fun

@mjstory1976

Жыл бұрын

You and absolutely nobody else would put Punk as an all time top 5 😂😂

@timothygraham4304

Жыл бұрын

@@franklingoodwin It's their top five, and Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels, didn't do anything as impactful. Just because you appreciate what they do, doesn't make them stars. I've heard backing singers with better voices than the singer, but that's not what's being sold.

Without Punk, there is no Seth Rollins, Daniel Bryan, and the Young Bucks wouldnt be execs at AEW. He broke the indy glass ceiling that much. "Undersized" became cool to push in the mainstream riddled with Brock Lesnars, Rocks and Cena types

MJF rivalry feels like the true sequel of this

@franklingoodwin

Жыл бұрын

Nah

@snegsbegs

Жыл бұрын

How? Lol

Thank you Jack and any other person who made this video. It was really great!

Absolutely superb stuff Jack. This was brilliant. Thought your summary of how it affected wrestling was perfect

He might not be the greatest wrestler in the ring but he is among the greatest storytellers in their.

I wonder where punk would be today if he went to TNA for a few years with more creative control, then Japan instead of WWE.

That's why when punk turned up on AEW it was so important. Without him it may not have happened. Everyone wanted AEW to be pinks new home because its what he was talking about in the pipebomb

@FrostyBalls01

Жыл бұрын

pinks??

@FrostyBalls01

Жыл бұрын

Couldn’t of said it any better.

really well written and delivered jack, started to well up at the end there. 5 stars on a cold night in Stoke

Jack's an incredible writer and presenter. Great stuff

Always great content Jack, but this was top tier.

This was amazing, Jack and whoever edited this. I kept hearing about how good his 2005 was and while I still haven't watched it, your retelling was a great introduction.

I think everyone has one generally popular wrestler who they just don't like or get. Controversially mine is CM Punk. He is a good wrestler and promo but I just don't enjoy watching him. It's a shame because he is so engrained in recent wrestling history but I just switch off when Punk is involved

@David-qm8bx

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I found him oddly clunky in the ring and his promos while good just go on and on a bit overrated

In 2005, ROH lost Punk, Gibson, Kendrick, and Matt Hardy all within a few weeks. But didn't miss a beat because they still had Danielson, Joe, Aries, Strong, Shelley, Daniels, Cabana, Homicide, and McGuinness, among others. That's how strong the roster was.

Although James Gibson was a great choice to take the belt off Punk, I was always a little disappointed it wasn't Christopher Daniels. Not only did Daniels and Punk have a long history with one another, but it would have also represented the Daniels character coming full circle. Daniels started out (in kayfabe) hating the "honor" aspect of ROH and wanting to destroy it, so the irony of him coming around and being the one to save the Ring of Honor Championship would have been a stroke of booking genius. Besides that, Daniels was such an important figure in the early days of ROH and it's a shame he had to wait so long before finally getting the belt. This would have been the perfect moment for him to finally win the big one.

@fergalstackstreams

6 ай бұрын

They didn't want the belt on a TNA contracted wrestler after what happened in 2004.

What a great video! Thanks, I just saw punk come back at Quake by the Lake live last night, so this was perfect for me!

I wasn’t around back then to live though the summers of Punk, so I’ve watched three video essays like this one on the topic, I must say, this is by far the cleanest and most informative one! Now I know why they call him Jack the Jobber… good job Jack 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👌🏻

Fantastic piece of wrestling journalism, Jack. You’re such a great storyteller, and you can see the attention to fine detail all over this video. Thank you!!!

Good documentary! I agree, you can see a connection through Punk to Danielson having his WM moment, to Cody leaving, to The Elite, All Out and AEW. I'm a fan of Punk, though I don't love him like I did after the pipebomb, but his was a seminal career for pro wrestling.

Quality content Jack, absolutely love your work mate!!!

Appreciate the focus on this. It’s a shame that Punk’s ROH stuff isn’t more well known.

it was the best wrestling programme on the planet at the time

Truly great video, Jack, and the summary and take aways are brilliant!

Great video guys. What a summer is must’ve been, awesome to learn about.

Amazing work guys, you have really outdone yourselves again.

Thank you Jack!!!!!!

As a life long fan of The Bouncing Souls, I've always appreciated that reference and that song.

Fantastic work on this! So captivating.

Bro I know MJF has that bloody white tee framed in his living room, I would.

I will say this, im still so proud of him coming back to Wrestling and gone to AEW and although i know it will most likely never happen again, i just wanna see Punk and Cabana team up for just one match. When Punk was attacked by the Pinncale, and had to team up with Mox, Deep down i wish Cabana came out to help Punk. Even of it was all a work, just closing that part of Punk's Career would be *french finger kiss* perfect.

Cheering a heel doesn't make you a smark. It's as simple as this: who does the crowd like more? You love to hate a good villain, and so the hero must be more skilled or liked than the villain to be cheered. That's why they didn't cheer James Gibson in the first Summer of Punk. The crowd decides who is their champion. The crowd. Not the booker.

@jamesb1988

Жыл бұрын

This is also why Cena refused to turn heel later in his career, his reasoning being pretty solid... John said something to the effect of "What is the point of a heel? To get booed. What do people do? They boo me. Why would I turn heel? Just to get cheered by the people that boo me now? No point."

@GrimmHollywood

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesb1988 Righteous. I didn't know any of that, thanks James! I remember when Roman Reigns was struggling to get over and getting booed when he was supposed to be a face. Now he's cheered as a heel (I think he's heel? I don't watch WWE anymore). But it's great - moderating how fans should feel is ridiculous. "You boo the bad guys and cheer the good guys, no matter what!" It's insane, and a moronic standpoint.

Fun fact the building that punk signed the wwe contract in is know a Whole Foods

I always feel like I'm the only one in the world that never liked Punk

@robdurfee6861

Жыл бұрын

You’re not alone, I’ve never dug him either.

If timing had worked out JUST RIGHT , Can you imagine if Tony bought ROH .....BEFORE Punk came back ??? Debuted him there in a 3way maybe with Joe and Bryan ??? IF IF IF they had a TV spot . That maybe woulda beat his own AEW baby in ratings !!! . WHOLE LOTTA IFs there . This just popped in my head while watching this . so dont slay me !!!! LOL !

I for one hope he comes back to AEW. Just to see the explosion, the car wreck. It'll draw more than anything in the past 10 years.

Love this stuff, in lieu of this could you a an indie show (ROH,CZW,Chikara etc.) to do a weirdest episode video on please. Thank you and the other boys from the other cult (what?) for getting me into the shoot/wrestlingyt scene along with wrestling with wregret.

Beautifully done

a beautiful look at CM Punk's amazing career and pro wrestling in the US outside of WWE!

Didn’t know he used cult of personality in Ring of Honor

i had no idea there were so many references and parallels between his roh and wwe careers

More videos like this please and thank you.

I would watch a top 10 Bouncing Souls songs list arranged by Jack. Excellent band.

great video, lads.

the original Summer of Punk was great I loved it.

Great video, Jack! I gave up on Punk a long time ago. He’s forever a sellout in my opinion. Your video almost makes me like him again though. Thank you for all you guys do!!

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

You’re upset at a guy because he left a promotion where he probably wasn’t making enough to even eat? ROH had talents making $12K a year, and that was with Sinclair ownership. You’re talking about life changing money. Going from struggling to pay for a meal to being able to change your entire life. Doubt you’d make a different decision in the same shoes.

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

Being upset could make sense if he was leaving good money just to go somewhere for max money. In this scenario he’s leaving struggle money, in an industry with short careers, to make life changing money. Kinda fascinating to me anybody would ever fault that decision.

Great video Jack!

Good work Jack!!

This was great jack cracking video

Well worth the wait!

Nice one Jack.👍

I'm also partial to the more modern live crowds, ones who are willing to play along vs getting themselves over. Wellll, I think AJ's had more to do with TNA and NJPW, but I digress.

Awesome video!!

Nice video, Jack x

Loving CM Punk aside, I don't think that the Pipe-bomb really caused or enabled all the big changes to come (except for Daniel Bryans Championship, maybe), it mostly just announced them. AEW came into being because Cody Rhodes & Chris Jericho left a WWE they were unhappy with to find enjoyable employment somewhere else. And it needed the active decisions of the Young Bucks & Kenny Omega (& Adam Page) to not agree to WWE offers but instead try the AEW route instead. So for the most part, AEW exists mostly because WWE did not learn from the second Summer of Punk, and instead kept on going down the same route that had a WWE audience excitedly chanting "TNA" back in 2011 triggered by a Lo-Ki promo. Or maybe because Vince didn't learn, and HHH was only given a too small playground to implement what he (might have) learned from it.

Top content, Jack!

Punk v Raven Punk v Joe Summer of Punk 1 Punk v Hardy Punk v Cena and Summer of Punk 2 Punk v Lesnar And now Punk v MJF I'm mentioning feuds not just matches, Punk has always had this magnetic personality and is such a natural at making you heavily invested in whatever story he's involved in. He's never been the most athletic, never done all those flips or power moves. He's just the best at making you feel with classic working and selling. And that's wrestling. It's not about how many moves you do, it's always about how much you make people feel. And Punk is proof, just like Bret was, just like Austin was, just like Taker was. Today in AEW, Punk is one of the few people you can't miss, the only others that come to mind are MJF, FTR, Danielson and more on those lines. Unfortunately they're the minority.

Thanks 🙏

15:00 same

Now that's a storyline

I hoped to see Summer of punk, the 3rd one in Aew, but damn that injury 😞 😢. Hopefully now that he's back we'll see that buuuut dint want to see mox loosing this early after winning that, he deserves a championship reign in Aew in front of crowd,, & i also wonder what if punk wouldve not injured?? What if all out could be mjf vs punk where mjf wins !! What if!!! There r soo many What ifs!!! Booking all out main event will be soo tough, way outS are either time limit draw/mjf interference/Dq finish & someone among these 2 turns HEEL!!!!

who is ready guys this saturday he is gonna be get that main event caliber

I just wish Punk Opponent in the original Summer of Punk were Aj Style it would be WAY more memorable

And all this time I was convinced it was the Summer of ‘94. “Amiright, Phil?” (Somebody please swoop in and buy all this old backyard and early Indy footage off of me already. I want to pay off a car or something. Jesus.)

Cant stand the man personally but great video Jack!

If only wrestling could be this good today.

the story of roh vs czw plz

“The best thing the Devil ever did was make you believe he didn’t exist”

good video

God love this intro

Makes it all the more sad to see what AEW has done with this legacy.

1st comment of this video and as always.....STORYTIME!!!!!!

Jack needs more work. His videos are great.

That was damn good video. I think i cried lol

He stayed in the indies for too long or I think a lot more people would consider him the goat.

@franklingoodwin

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't that tbf. It was him leaving WWE and going to the UFC. He should've known real fighting isn't for everyone. All the wrestlers that have succeeded in MMA were legit athletes before pro wrestling - something CM Punk was not

I like this video

Best in the world

@mjstory1976

Жыл бұрын

Not anymore though

CM PUNK CM PUNK CM PUNK

J and J Security

Cm punk pipebomb he pour his heart out in that pipebomb

Jay lethal dated AJ Lee too

CM Punk is definitely the game changer of professional wrestling in his own right. Just because he has hurt some feeling of certain nincompoops who are absolutely sensitive about everything and want him to be cancelled doesn't change the fact that CM Punk made them restore their faith in this business. And yes, I'll also agree with you on the fact that CM Punk walked the path, paved the way for other wrestlers to run and in turn, leading to the Formation of AEW.

Seems like you either love Punk or your fucking hate him. Personally, he's meh to me. I loved him in the beginning during the early TNA/ROH days. His WWE days I was never a huge fan of. I've enjoyed him in AEW, but I'll always prefer guys like Bryan Danielson, Samoa Joe and Christopher Daniels

I miss when Punk wasnt the biggest complainer in the business, when he wasnt the locker room hell raiser, when he wasnt some middle aged crybaby

I really appreciate videos like this. As someone who was late to the story of CM Punk, I really wanted to know about the older information. He quickly earned his place as one of my all time favorites.

Cm Punk is older than Randy Orton

MY top picks for best wrestlers (of wwe) are 5. Brock Lesnar (2012-2016) 4. John Cena (2005-2008) 3. The Shield 2. Razor Ramon 1. Triple H (2000-now) don't judge my top picks. My honorable mentions are The Undertaker (2004-2017) CM Punk and Chris Jericho. They all had some memorable moments in wwe

If roman reigns can main event 5 wrestlemania’s cm punk deserves 10. He is bigger than anyone in the roster now. Him and randy orton. Roman reigns will never be that guy. Cm punk next big thing after stone cold

Cm Punk is the exception not the rule and that’s why wrestling got tremendously worse when he left…

*plastic comment bomb* Acknowledge that our universal champ was taking orders from the best in the world 100 dollar bill Phil and Black is the indi main event but should it... I wonder what ares and pac would do a 4 way... clearly Roman vs Punk should be what's best for business though.... so you can have the biggest Paul Haymen choice .... someone who can get himself over or another faction boy

Jack is a CM Punk mark lol. It's alright though because it's Jack and he at least has the self-awareness to know he's a CM Punk mark

AEW needs a summer of Punk Instead they got Moxley 🤮

And then he basically repeated the same story in WWE. Turns out he's not as original as we all thought.

To this day, I've just never ever seen what the big deal is about the guy. I remain utterly unimpressed. Am I the only one?

@nathandts3401

Жыл бұрын

Natural mic work.

@franklingoodwin

Жыл бұрын

You're not. I've tried to get him - I just don't. He's no doubt a great wrestler but he's never had the star power or work rate to make him special for me

@robdurfee6861

Жыл бұрын

You are not

I feel like current AEW has fallen so far from what could have been after movers and shakers like punk set them in motion. Part of me wishes punk never joined that disappointing promotion

@primejoyofbearding2128

Жыл бұрын

Dissapointing? Huh?

I'll say it. Overrated!