0:23 - #8 i3 2:55 - #7 IceWM 4:15 - #6 spectrwm 6:09 - #5 Openbox 8:21 - #4 dwm 9:50 - #3 awesome 11:36 - #2 Qtile 13:32 - #1 xmonad

@jasonwinter1549

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. :)

@tezaswiraj4244

3 жыл бұрын

How he moves window and resize with key binding?

@duckmeat4674

3 жыл бұрын

@@tezaswiraj4244 a keyboard...

@sketchy2673

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot

@ignisimmensus2568

2 жыл бұрын

The only reason I can watch distrotube is people like you putting the timestamp of each video for us to skip unnecessary BS

DT is getting more and more really really noob friendly and i love it

@DistroTube

3 жыл бұрын

Noobs need love too!

@MartinErman

3 жыл бұрын

@@DistroTube Indeed we do!

@trampolinhusetuser7098

3 жыл бұрын

@@DistroTube We sure do. Just keep it coming, enough of the complex stuff that makes my brain boil, more material for FOSS virgins like myself :)

@marioschroers7318

3 жыл бұрын

@@trampolinhusetuser7098 I know that feeling. But fear not; your knowledge will grow as your journey continues. Keep it up!

@jamesm5192

3 жыл бұрын

@@DistroTube Maybe you can figure out how to benchmark them and see how efficiently they use the GPU vs CPU... They are the type of software that should be able to take advantage of GPUs, after all. I could also imagine WM stress testing being possible - with some program opening hundreds of windows and rearranging them with some (automated) monkey testing. Otherwise, all there is to talk about is features - and many are close in that regard.

Maybe I should give awesome a try so I can waste even more time riceing without doing anything productive

@drishalballaney6590

3 жыл бұрын

hehe ricing is fun...I may not be so creative...but its fun to bunk classes to rice the WM and watch DT :P ;)

@drishalballaney6590

3 жыл бұрын

@gamera lord how about others like xmonad?since I am better with python I find haskell a bit more easier than lua

@drishalballaney6590

3 жыл бұрын

@gamera lord I found it a bit tricky to configure resizing keybinds in qtile, also it does not fully support standards like ewmh(extended window manager hints) iirc

@jonbikaku6133

3 жыл бұрын

:(((((((((

@yavnest

3 жыл бұрын

_"so I can waste even more time"_ time = your life Don't waste your life.

You got me into Qtile with some of your early videos and it has been my go to since.

Excellent choice of window managers. First thing I see in your i3 is vim, and what a color scheme! Awesome colors in your Qtile and Xmonad setup as well. I really need to look into your color themes. As always, brilliant presentation. I actually guessed your #1 would be Xmonad. You stay true to yourself. Keep it up!

I knew about Qtile in this channel and since then it became my favorite window manager!

@cun_0092

3 жыл бұрын

I'm planning to use it as my main de I'm learning python and using it will increase my python skills also. Technically it's like killing two birds with one stone.

@stm3252

3 жыл бұрын

@@cun_0092 Very good idea. Python is very powerful language and you are going to enjoy extending Qtile features with it!

Wow I found a gem on youtube. I'm coming back to linux and needed this. Thanks DT!

I really appreciate this video! Excellent coverage of a niche that can be daunting to get into.

Awesome BTC ticker 😎 Top notch content as always!

Just found your channel, you make good stuff man. So far I've been only using Debian-based distros (Ubuntu, Zorin, easy stuff for a noob), but after a couple of years using and learning Linux I think it's time to try something based on Arch: gonna try both EndeavourOS and Arco Linux on virtualbox (tried Majaro once, it didn't worked on my laptop, not even MATE, gonna see if its diferent with these ones) this month before going with one next year, and this video gave me good ideas of what I should try first on them, so thanks a lot.

Hey DT, I love the video!

# 1: bspwm # 2: dwm # 3: awesome # 4: i3 # 5: xmonad # 6: qtile Edit: on each system I’ve tried them on BSPWM is the lightest... even more so than DWM. Xmonad is great but requires a ton of packages to run, Haskell knowledge, and bloated configs. It does what it does well, but there are simpler options that are just as capable and far less bloated.

@hyblm

3 жыл бұрын

+1

@engageintellect

3 жыл бұрын

@sidhanth rathod I agree, the tabs are cool! I think Brodie did a video on how to do tabs in BSPWM.. I know that it’s possible.

@HR-ve7mc

3 жыл бұрын

Currently i am also running bspwm, but i am not very happy with it. It is lightweight, but not as good configurable as others. BSPWM is very light, but not lighter than dwm. Maybe you forgot to look for resource usage of sxhkd also, because otherwise bspwm will not work. So you need to count them always together.

@plasmalife5532

2 жыл бұрын

+1

@unnatshaneshwar6477

2 жыл бұрын

yup I love bspwm

Greetings from Germany. Your Videos are great. Linux user for 20 years now and I can always use some content from here

I like my KDE Plasma and would never want to switch, but I have to say all those tiling window manager setups you see on places like r/unixporn look really cool and sometimes make me jealous.

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

My son uses plasma. He does like my i3 setup however. Can kwin (or whatever the KDE window manager is called these days) be configured for tiling?

@gettriggered_ian3269

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzocabrini I know that on gnome, system76 developed a tiling extension

@ranajitmukherjee9789

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzocabrini yes it can be ... i use a tiling script with my plasma setup. You can even use i3 as wm for plasma. However if u want a simple solution just use krohnkite instead.

@matthewrease2376

2 жыл бұрын

I go back and forth between KDE and Awesome lol. Just depends on what I'm doing, though I've been using Awesome more and more.

@ForgotMyPasswd000

2 жыл бұрын

You can use scripts like Bismuth to make KWin tile, or even integrate a tiling window manager into plasma there’s a lot of bspwm plasma setups out there that work very well, you’ll probably just have to tinker with keybinds so that the ones for plasma and the ones for whatever tiling window manger you use aren’t conflicting

I been waiting for this video. Finally

@DistroTube

3 жыл бұрын

Yea, someone (maybe you) asked for this...so here ya go! :D

@markscheck

3 жыл бұрын

@@DistroTube LOL, I know I asked like a month ago, thank you for all the videos since I've was looking at how to display data (like covid cases to a smart mirror.

I've been using dwm lately. It's true it isn't the most noob friendly or doesn't come with a lot of features but it's like it grows with you. Slowly you get the window manager that you need with dwm

My first Distro ever was Manjaro i3,that's all i know and im staying there.Tried few WM's and for what do i3 is enough. Great video DT! Thanks!

As a long time Distrotube subscriber, as soon as I saw this video, I guessed he would rate Xmonad as his top pick. Lol There are quiet a few videos about Xmonad in his channel. Love your work dude, keep it up !! Many of my distro hops this year were influenced by your videos and your genuine opinions on the distros.

perfect timing!

Awesome is awesome. Super fun to learn, very well documented.

@ellandill

3 жыл бұрын

they break the api during the update

1) I'm definitely going to say herbstluftwm, just because I used it for so long and customized it so extensively. 2) dwm. I recently patched my own build of dwm that has very low system requirements, and goes well with my workflow. 3) I played around with DT's xmonad, which I found very nice and easy to use. 4) Bspwm. 5) JWM. I got this configured how I liked it, and it worked very well for me.

Hi, I've just discovered your "obscure window managers" series! You're just great explaining the pros and cons of these things. Well, due to a sucktastic laptop I have, a really piece of... In the beginning I've started with the traditional and light mate DE and xfce4 DE but even with those I've experienced issues. I had to turn my head over some very light managers and no more DE. I realized it was time to play around with icewm, openbox, i3, fluxbox. Right now I'm using i3, it's really easy and performs great, I can tell I've improved productivity as expected with a tiling manager! But I think sooner or later I'll go to fluxbox, which performed so well on an even older toshiba laptop I had years ago. My problem with many of these wm is the way to popup the menu, you know, to let the system show what's installed. I had always issues on first steps of having those installed, in the menu there was always some apps missing and a had a lot of work to make them appear :-( But exploring your videos you are for sure a great teacher explaining all these stuff for the rest of us. Thank you very much ;-)

I love bspwm, and I am sad it didn't make the top 8 :(

@akshatvats7992

3 жыл бұрын

Same here

@HaiNguyen-cf1ji

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, bspwm just work :))

@mizhimo

3 жыл бұрын

bspwm > i3, spectrwm, acewm, at least.

@OG900Aero

3 жыл бұрын

Same here. Bspwm better than i3 and spectrewm.

@007arunabha

3 жыл бұрын

me too. although i know it's not as efficient as others wm's, I am heavily biased to it.

AwsomeWM fan here. Thanks for the info.

DT, I have an idea for a future video. You seem to know hell of a lot about what panel, what dock, what login manager, what DE, what WM and so on and so forth goes best with what. How do you know all that (more of a rhetoric question that needs no answer) But maybe just talk about all that choice one gets once choosing open source. Cause thanks to your videos I get to understand that linux means to have a choice, but it doesnt help much when you are a rookie and dont know what is there to choose from.

my top 3 windows managers : 1) DWM for advance user 2) I3 bcs users frendly 3) XFCE for noobs

@75dhib

3 жыл бұрын

@@____-gy5mq i agree xfce is a DE but it can be use as WM for new linux users before switching to TWM

@75dhib

3 жыл бұрын

@@____-gy5mq a new linux users that come from mac os or windows need GUI interfaces like kde after that xfce and TWM

Recently I've gotten into plugin-based window managers and desktop environments, and in the process discovered that the code for Compiz 0.9 is actually really cool. From what I've read of the source you can even turn off compositing.

1. DWM 2. Hersbluftwm 3. Bspwm 4. Openbox 5. Kwin 6. Xmonad 7. Awesome 8.SwayWM Waiting for the day dwl or a dwm like windows manager that uses wayland and the same workflow / master stack layout will become like stable and the whole xorg-server-xwayland thing goes out to the trash.

Great video thanks for the info

My top 8 WMs: 8: DWM 7: Openbox 6: Kwin 5: BSPWM 4: Spectrwm 3: Awesome (is awesome) 2: Herbstluftwm 1: XMonad Your XMonad show-off video inspired me to switch, and I hate to say this but it's better than HLWM, making it the best on the list

@gamerking64

2 жыл бұрын

How can i use kwin without a DE??? There is no video that mention that.

Should do more of these top xx vids, DT. You converted me from urxvt to alacritty, so I am grateful for that. I toggle between vifm and ranger. You did a vid on ranger ages ago, so I am trying it out and thanks. Been using i3 exclusively for about a decade now. I don’t use too many third party packages with it besides dmenu/rofi. Almost use it as is out of the box without too many tweaks and it just works, nothing more to do. Love the manual control of how you want to layout the windows. Questioning on weather or not I try bspwm just to see what it’s like. Think it’ll take a bit to convince me unless I can use it how I do i3, is less bloaty and consumes less ram.

bro thanks so much, you actually made soft soft easy to understand

Great to see xmonad topping the list! It's brilliant

dwm all the way for me. The "warp" patch is fantastic for mouse-heavy applications like web browsers, etc.: whenever you change focus from one window to another, the cursor goes to the middle of that window. Key over, and the mouse goes with you. Very, very convenient.

Found this channel just a few days ago and I love it

@andrasbiro6604

3 жыл бұрын

Get used to the term "proprietary garbage" :D

Really helpful. Awesome and Icewm especially look interesting.

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

I haven't used icewm in a long time, but it used to be very light. You could easily run it on older hardware. It was never really my favorite as such, but it was always handy to have it installed, when friends who used Windows 95 came around, because it felt quite familiar to them.

@raszelast

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzocabrini Sounds good. Its actually for a single core Athlon netbook, so this should work well. Now I just need to figure out how the whole X window services work, being fairly new to Linux. This is the first time I'm trying a minimal build starting w/ command-line Debian and there are a lot of things to learn. My initial attempt before properly reading the documentation was... less than successful.

Honestly I recommend IceWM even for overpowered machines because there's nothing quite like practically zero latency window management

I see you keep StumpWM to yourself :P Small criticism, what you call dynamic vs manual is usually known as list vs tree based tiling. A manual tiling is something like herbstluftwm or stumpwm. Still enjoyed the video (as usual).

Honestly after trying out Ratpoison I find it hard to move to anything else It might be just how my idea of tiling windows is, but it seems to just do everything so correctly and intuitively out of the box. It is a manual tiler, so you’re dedicating frames where you want windows to be able to open, and by default if you open another window in one frame it will maximise it, replacing the window that was under it And you can either switch between them in one frame like alt+tab, or further split those two into two frames with one window each. People usually complain about the escape key function - by default you have to press Ctrl-t , then followed by any other key binding every time you want to send a command to the wm but to me that’s not an issue, and actually prevents you from accidentally calling a command that will close a window, and frees up a lot of the keyboard bindings for you to use with other programs like tmux. Also it’s incredibly light (I believe it only uses 1MB of RAM. I encourage people to at least try it, it’s different than the popular wms but I promise if it works for you you won’t be able to use anything else again.

I've only used dwm before and now I'm using bspwm and I love it. First of all it's manual, which is my preference, second it's easy to switch between tiled and floating, third it has much more powerful keybind support because of bspc and sxhkd, fourth it doesn't come with a bar by default so I can use whatever I want

@buildershed

Жыл бұрын

I love bspwm because it’s done with bash scripting which is my favorite type of scripting.

I still love spectrwm. I am most grateful that you introduced me to it earlier this year. It does almost everything that I would like. I do not know a programming language, but I am now considering learning C to try to fork spectrwm or similar (dwm, FrankenWM, etc.) and make it 100% my own. You have sent me down many great paths, DT. Thank you. I have been watching your channel for the better part of 2020, and I can hardly explain how much I have learned from your work.

1) Xmonad which I'm currently using, has it limitations, specialy managing floating windows, very flexible thou. 2) Awesome, the most flexible of them all, pretty nice floating window management, more a hybrid than a tiler. 3) Spectrwm, is the easy and is better dwm if you want a basic dynamic wm with sane defaults imho. 4) Dwm, very versatile if you know C and fork some patches to you taste but you have to spend lots of time if you want something more than a basic wm. 5) ICEwm, very nice and fully feature for a lightweight floating wm.

Great video, personally I use Awesome (but not the default theme, which is baaad). It is #3 on this list but I think has the benefit of "just working" with anything that I throw at it. I use a theme that makes it look very much like i3.

My favourites: 3. Enlightenment 2. Compiz 1. Kwin. Guess I've soft spot for maximalistic WMs

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure I'd call enlightement maximalistic. It depends on how you configure it. It can actually be pretty MINImalistic if you want. I used it quite a bit back in the days when it was the default window manager for GNOME.

Nice background with church :) I live close by, it's in little country Slovenia ❤️

This is a video that needed to be made.

8. i3 7. icewm 6. spectrwm 5. openbox 4. dwm 3. awesome 2. qtile 1. xmonad

@arkvsi8142

3 жыл бұрын

You forgot windows 8.1

@jamesm5192

3 жыл бұрын

Why?

@tacokoneko

3 жыл бұрын

OPENBOX very good most high performance lightweight fully stacking WM ONLY IceWM and fvwm MAYBE less RAM i love it

@tacokoneko

3 жыл бұрын

i would recommend icewm for pentium III, pentium II antique CPU, or RIVA TNT, VooDoo GPUs. very forgiving for CPU, RAM use. unfortunately after i successfully compiled custom build Pale Moon web browser on my Pentium III Katmai 500mhz, my original factory SDRAM for it was completely used up, it was written to probably billions of times from swapping between 8 GB swap and 384 MB SDRAM over the 11 days it took to compile, I was only able to run Pale Moon with incredible, unbelievably smooth optimized modern web browsing on Pentium III for a few minutes before my DIMMS failed and now cant boot need to find more SDRAM DIMMS in ebay

@fParad0x_

3 жыл бұрын

wheres bspwm?

it's 2021 and I have started using i3wm. Had a brilliant learning curve but I am having fun configuring it.

Yes, thanks to you, I've been a permanent resident of Arch/Qtile for a while now. The great Xmonad comes next, then i3wm, Spectrwm and then all other are just ok to me.

I was previously using popOs then I switched to manjaro i3. Since then using i3, it's simple and the config is super easy. I though i3 was cool 😂, but now I know there are so many wm out there definitely goign to try some of these. Thanks dr for sharing wisdom.

No real surprise about your top two :-)

Thanks to you I gave Qtile a chance last week. Started with the config in your repo, and changed it a bit. Qtile has pretty understandable docs. I was using i3 since forever, it was my first tiling wm, than tried xmonad, and now Qtile. Keep up with your great work!

I never used standalone wm, but you inspired me to try tiling in my workflow. KDE + kwin tiling script + some tweaks such as disable toolbars, add bright frame for Windows gave best of TWM and full DE.

Thanks to your videos, I've switched to xmonad on my main laptop. Still have some quirks to figure out - but going back to Gnome feel so clunky...

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

No! If GNOME feels slow and clunky it is because your brain is too fast. You are at fault and must slow your brain down to GNOME level. You have to make yourself stupid because GNOME was developed for stupid people. Only GNOME developers should think. Users should never think. That can confuse them and GNOME developers will be forced to remove even more features. And always remember that GNU's Not Unix Network Object Model Environment is absolutely not an acronym. Spatial file management was superior until one day it wasn't. But don't worry, soon GNOME will be rewritten in the only thing that is almost (but not quite) as good as GNOME: Rust and then all your problems will go away because Rust is a great programming language that makes Perl code look readable, so it must be really good.

I made a couple of *iso's of a Xfwm4 standalone. One Debian Sid and one Ubuntu 20.04 based. Nice that the compositor is built in and it has an autostart file like openbox. It has a gui for keybindings and lets you know if there is duplicates. Plus it has the nice right click menu and it has some built in minimal Pseudo Tiling.

I started with wmii, moved over to i3 and now since a couple of weeks qtile is my home, it's a really neat wm, and it's starting to really feel like home now, got my arch up and running, and a nice zsh, just feeling so good being back home in Linux :D

@engageintellect

3 жыл бұрын

How do you change the color of floating window borders in qtile?

@sotolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@engageintellect sadly I don't know, I never really use the floating layouts.

@engageintellect

3 жыл бұрын

@@sotolf I could never figure that out... I LOVE python, so naturally I wanted to like qtile. I found it’s defaults insanely unusable. DT’s qtile config should be the default. Also, simple things (like changing floating window border colors) seemed impossible in qtile and easy in just about everything else. Anyways, I’m glad you’re liking it. It’s cool to see people branching out and using other things besides i3. I love trying out new window managers and configs as it gives me ideas for how to set up my own environment.

Yeah, I was kinda expecting the top 3. Definitely need to give awesome a try when I have time. For my personal I will be honest, I have only tried xfwm (xfce was my first de), xmonad (but I had difficulties configuring it so its not 100% usable), i3 and qtile. If I had to rank them Qtile would be first as I currently live in it, then i3 and then xmonad (could be higher of I could actually use it, but its not the easiest one).

nice list, although maybe you should also check wayland WMs/compositors.

@supremedeity9003

3 жыл бұрын

wayland isnt as mature so there isnt much hype around them.

You may want to look into leftwm, it is not configured in the programming language that it is written, but it has some nice concepts around theming (and it is just a WM, it does not have a panel nor any other thing, very Unix-y).

After a year in Arch I just switched to ArcoLinux B i3 edition. What surprised me that i3 actually behaves like dynamic tiler. All thanks to autotiling, a small python library. It's not exactly dynamic, but after spawning second container it switches direction of next spawn. I think I'm gonna stick with this distro a while longer...

DT that is a Nice list! Seeing how you got me to try a WM for the first time it was Awesome WM. Then I tried SpectrWm and i have stuck with it for 6 months of so. So my list is short...LOL 1. SpectrWm ?. DWM could be 2. :-) ?. Awesome Awesome is great and all I just like Spectrwm. I have in the last 4 or 5 days been playing with DWM so far I like it. Still figuring it out... Lol Qtile is on my list next. :-D Come to think of it I started to look at Herbstluftwm but never got back to it... :-( So thanks to you DT, also Linux Dabbler and OTB I have been in the world of WM's for over 1/2 a year... Yes I have other computers with regular desktops but I'm not needing a desktop as much these days. A Desktop just feels slow or something.. Don't know.... BTW Thanks you for the help the other day DT, I got the DWM bar at the bottom of the screen just fine... THANKS! Thanks for the video! LLAP

Good video.

My fav one and only DWM

I switched from awesome to dwm and I'm quite enjoying it.

Now that it is under active development and the docs have all been updated, I am trying out IceWM as my daily driver. I copied the configs from /usr/share/icewm to '.icewm' and used 'maker' to update the menu file. It doesn't tile like enlightenment, but I want to give it a chance. Something new in IceWM is a config that handles specific apps. You can config where and how an app opens. Interesting.

My top 5 would probably be herbstluftwm, bspwm, qtile, xmonad, i3

@eli1882

3 жыл бұрын

no sowm?

@engageintellect

3 жыл бұрын

What do you like about herbsluft?

@whathandleisnttaken

3 жыл бұрын

@@engageintellect I like herbstluftwm because it is pretty minimal, I can update it without restarting, and the fact that I can use any language I want to customize it. A lot of window managers have some of those functions built in but I like the combination of them all.

@engageintellect

3 жыл бұрын

@@whathandleisnttaken sounds exactly why the reasons I love bspwm so much. It’s just so damn easy! And fantastic for scripting.

@arsacode6145

3 жыл бұрын

Noob here. Do i have to change DE's in order to use a particular tile windows managaer?

How were you able to get your i3 config file to have such nice and colorful syntax highlighting? Are you using a plug-in or setting a particular file type for that in Vim to make that happen? Thanks for the vid!

rank of all the window managers ive tried 1. herbstluft 2. dwm 3. i3 4. xmonad 5. bspwm herbstluft is the best wm in terms of function imo & it also helps that its very easy to configure and edit, i enjoy how unique dwm is even if i dont prefer master/stack, i3 is good but things about it bug me more than herbstluft, xmonad is interesting but its a pain to configure from my experience, bspwm is just plain awkward (fibonacci layout, the config file being split in half due to sxhkd, etc) i largely prefer the manual ones. I usually end up manually adjusting my windows anyway so dynamic layouts are kind of redundant to me

Bullet Proof Fully Encrypted BTRFS Arch Linux with Fish shell and your amazing Qtile Config tweaked with added Brightness Control and Battery into the panel for my laptop. I absolutely love it. Enjoying your DWM build as well, will have to tweak it a bit as well to make it laptop friendly too. Im set on my macro(s), now tinkering with my micro(s) until i find my favorirte like: - Terminal Emulator (Alacritty, Termite, ST) have to pick between those or if any better one - File Manager (Thunar, PcManFm, Nautilus), better suggestions with reasons are appreciated - GUI Editor (playing with Gedit right now) would like some suggestions - Best Image Viewer - Best Video Player and Best Music Player.

I recently started tinkering with awesome window manager. I don't think I'll ever go back to using a traditional desktop environment.

Surprised that BSPWM didn’t make the list, my top DWMs are Awesome, i3, and BSPWM.

@thetreeofclues

3 жыл бұрын

assuming "dwm" means dynamic wm, neither i3 or bspwm are dynamic

@SxC97

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetreeofclues Correct, I meant to write WMs.

1. dwm - may be because i put lot of time in patching, coding statusbar, setting other staff; 2. fluxbox

@supremedeity9003

3 жыл бұрын

Patching got annoying real fast for me. Having the freedom to easily attach or easily remove something is way better.

StumpWM is the best window manager and I will die on that hill.

@shuwan4games

3 жыл бұрын

I'm with you stumpwm controls like emacs and thats the best

Nice!

I've personally only just gotten into the window manager only experience and I've only used 2, Openbox and Fluxbox and I never got to configure Fluxbox because it was virtual and nothing ever stuck past leaving the website. So that makes my number 1 choice pretty obvious, Openbox. I have it configured to around my liking so idk where to go from there. I will say though tiling is starting to look like an option to look into however I might just distro hop first, I'll see how I feel.

Hey DT ,can you cover the arcolinux tweak tool once?

Before I go watch: Qtile, xmonad, dwm, i3, bspwm, herbstluft, Spectrwm aaaaaaand openbox Edit: 6 out of 8. How'd I forget about Awesome.

@LordHonkInc

3 жыл бұрын

6/8 not a bad prediction ;)

@warhawk_yt

3 жыл бұрын

Of course it’s very easy to figure out both qtile and xmonad if you have watched him for a little bit as he always shown his love for them and his bias towards xmonad especially.

@zhanghanduo

3 жыл бұрын

@@warhawk_yt Multiple "top" "best" descriptions for xmonad, which was used on qtile two years ago

@warhawk_yt

3 жыл бұрын

@@zhanghanduo I don’t understand what you mean on that but I am not trying to make it seem like I hate his list. It’s all his personal opinions on his favorite. Someone else’s list will be different.

Sway is the best window manager in my opinion. It provides the best Wayland experience possible, and has some improved and extra features over i3wm. Of course most electron apps aren't quite ready for native Wayland yet, but XWayland works perfectly fine (with AMD hardware, that is)

@CatWAVE-qq1gs

Жыл бұрын

you meant: AMD cpu or gpu??

Pop Shell is my current favorite. It's a good balance of desktop and tiling window manager.

@ajarivas72

2 жыл бұрын

How to compile it on Mac OS X 🖥 ?

I'm installing a Gentoo VM with DWM, since it's the only WM that just worked for me.

Justice is served I was expecting top window manager of 2020 Thank you DT🙃

Honestly use Herbstluftwm while I learn Haskell (not even just for Xmonad, but as a language I write stuff in), but once I’m a bit more proficient I’ll probably move to Xmonad.

@umka7536

3 жыл бұрын

No need to wait. I don't know Haskell, I used to program on C, C++. But I set up Xmonad and Xmonad without big issues, just looked into the configs of others and logs.

@enderger5308

3 жыл бұрын

I know, I’d just prefer to have a config which makes full use of Haskell.

Come on, Window Maker Gang. Show yourselves, don't leave me alone

@mavezy

3 жыл бұрын

Window Maker, GKrellm, xmms. POGGERS!

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

WindowMaker! I loved that window manager back in the days when 2 Mb of RAM was considered a lot. WindowMaker ran so smoothly. Is it still being developed? I haven't used it for ages, but I can see it's in the AUR, along with a collection of dockapps! Now I feel like installing it, if just for the nostalgia. For best effect I better get a hold of a really old version of XEmacs and xmms. Now THAT would make me feel young again.

@shitbukkake

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzocabrini Window Maker 0.95.9 was released on April 4th 2020. From what you're telling us I can guess you used its first versions. Something like 1996? And I have good news for you: it's still smooth as butter :)

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

@@shitbukkake Yeah, '96-'97 sounds just about right. Man, I'm going to install it. I just need to experience the sheer beauty of it once again! Thanks for the update!

Wow BSPWM doesn’t even get a mention...

qtile and i3 are the only tiling window managers on this list that provide tiling/stacking (plus tabs) out of the box. i3/qtile stacking is a must have. If your tiling WM doesn't handle qtile/i3 style stacked layouts along with standard tiling, you might as well go back to using Windows.

I miss herbstluftwm in this list. I recently saw a setup with an ultra wide monitor and it was amazing

My main wm is openbox but I run dwm also. I feel more comfortable in dwm since I use dwm-flexipatch and jgmenu. Jgmenu can output the exact same menu I use in Openbox because it can use obmenu-generator as an input, the menu generator I use with Openbox. As jgmenu is also searchable I don't even use dmenu.

After using i3 for a couple of years, about a year ago I switched to Qtile.

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

Interesting. I'm getting too old to keep hopping from one wm to another, but I am a bit curious about Qtile. As an ex-i3 user, how do you find the experience?

@crwmike0

3 жыл бұрын

@@lorenzocabrini I was looking for a dynamic tiler, I really like the master/stack layout (monadtall in qtile). The config is n Python, so I'm comfortable editing it. If there is a error in the config, it reverts back to the default config. t doesn't tell you what the error is like i3 so change one thing and reload config. The website is well documented but web searches does not return much. I got it configured the way I like and I'll be sticking with for a while.

@lorenzocabrini

3 жыл бұрын

@@crwmike0 Cool! Just like you, I'm comfortable with python and that is why qtile is interesting to me. I'll see if I can't find some time and play around with it a bit. Thanks for the info!

@distrotube next year could you pls also show the base memory usage of the DM?

(Look at the end of the comment for a tip for new users) I have used dwm and currently using xmonad and plasma in turns. Seems like i need to check out Qtile and Awesome because they not only look good but are also are full of features and customisable in a language that i already know. Tip for new users: If you dont already know when you install a WM/DE it will create a session file and you can login into a WM/DE of choice however this is a better way of testing imo, All or most linux distros have ~9 Text console and the last or first one is used for all your main tasks (for example the DE/WM you login into) however you can switch between these. I recommend you look into Xinit and TTY for easier testing so if something goes wrong you can easily stop the process and switch to your main DE/WM

I hadn't heard of Qtile before watching this video.

Right in time. I didn't decide yet what to put on my fresh arch install

i really love the awesomewm config by chris titus tech, i replaced my gnome with that

its not often that you see someone running the same background as yourself. but the openbox background is the same as mine!

Hey DT, do you think it is possible to make Dmenu show the appimages inside a given directory next to the other programs in the search results? How would you go about it?

This is a great list but you forgot bspwm ;)

I've tried awesome and i3, and I loved i3 more But, I'm more of a KDE guy, I like the full-featured DE style. Thanks though.

1)stumpwm because lisp 2) bspwm 3) dwm 4) open box 5) xmonad

Of the ones I've tried so far 1. BSPWM 2. OpenBox 3. DWM 4. i3 not counting any of the default ones in any of the DEs I've tried. I don't really like the Master Stack Layout of DWM, but at least it's predictable. It's a gamble of what will happen when you try to move a window in i3. That's why I like BSPWM. Assuming the number of windows in a workspace is the same, the layout won't change until you tell it to, and you can move windows around within that layout however you want. It's got a lot more keybinds necessary, but it's worth it to learn them all, I'd say. I'm open to using a different one if it keeps the Binary tree framework of BSP, and also lets you tab windows together without monocle mode. (Like having a quarter of the screen be taken by three tabbed windows for example.) That's the only thing keeping me from trying to use Surf or a more minimal terminal. (I'm on Vivaldi and Terminator right now.)

Will you do a video on taffybar? It's a really nice alternative to xmobar!