Hope you like the video.

@GeraltOfRivia99

6 жыл бұрын

alright elric we can be in a band ill ditch my ego if you come along. make some rockin songs about video games and filter out all the wanna be rockstars you seem to have some experience atleast!

this video was so hilarious because its so true no matter the music genre. but to caveat. a woman can also break up the band or one of the band members wives or significant other can be a problem.

Jake E Lee Didn't do drugs Ozzy said he wouldn't even take aspirin

One reason is when the band leader does all of the work, and the other guys don't appreciate it...When all you basically have to do is learn the material correctly, and don't put the effort out, it tends to piss off the band leader and make them want to give up...it sucks to hire guys that don't have the attention to detail that the band leader does, and don't put out the effort.

You missed out work commitments. That's the most common one in my experience. Members get new jobs and work different hours and therefore they find it harder to get to rehearsals consistently, members move away to different cities for work/education and are now too far away. I've known stuff like that to be one of the main things breaking up bands.

@thomasdarnall8912

2 ай бұрын

However, keeping a day job is actually beneficial for the band in the long run. It actually provides a little bit of money in your pocket and provides you with a plan B if things don't work out for you. If anything, one could theoretically reduce their MAIN job work hours to part-time if one can afford it.

@glennartstuffs-freejazzfil4730

2 ай бұрын

@thomasdarnall8912 I don't disagree with you here. I didn't intend this comment to come off like I was passing judgement on people for having work commitments or telling people how they should make decisions in relation to those commitments. I wasn't, I was just stating the fact that it's the most common thing that breaks up bands in my experience. Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting people quit their jobs (unless they really want to, of course).

@thomasdarnall8912

2 ай бұрын

@@glennartstuffs-freejazzfil4730 No problem man. I'm 41 and I would like to accomplish my LIFLONG GOAL of forming a band myself. I'm married to a beautiful woman and I have a 7 year old Son. I want to do this before I close my eyes for good. I work 40 hours per week. I could squeeze in some time to form a band and use it as a financial safety net to at least give me some food and drink money. I already have some accounting/bookkeeping experience that I feel would be beneficial for the band to balance the finances of the band itself. Routine things like expenditures, payrolls, etc. Pretty much, forming a band is akin to an entrepreneurial endeavor. The same type of organizational structures and strategies would be like planning a small business. Your bandmates are like your partners in this endeavor. Just another way to look at it. So IF my theoretical band does great, I would reduce my hours to part-time ONLY when the financial aspects of the band works itself out. Quitting only when the financial situation becomes self-sustaining.

What if youre in a band whos members dont seem to want to put the time into practice or rehearsal ? They actually dont think you need it ! But when you play , the lack of practice shows.

there is an overabundance of bands nowadays . and not very many listeners . so much stuff out there . very hard to get people to listen .

And these reasons are universal. Regardless of the band's genre, these have been reasons bands have broken up.

Drugs and egos from trust fund babies broke mine up (late 80s)...impossible to get signed as a metal band back then, too many and it was on its way out. FInally....a contract. Was over as fast as it happend. WIthin months 2 dead from dope, 3rd was on a booze binge, ex wife shot his nuts off and bled out .Sold my gear off havent picked up an instrument since then.

@prism223

6 күн бұрын

That's brutal

I was in multiple bands and I have played piano, drums and bass. The best thing that I did was to buy an acoustic guitar and started busking as a soloist. I have been a soloist for more than a year and money I earn from busking enables me a nicer life. I will not play in a band as a band member in the next thousand years but I have nothing against being a session musician and a hired gun. I do not have problems with people themselves but the lack of enthusiasm in other band members, lack of leadership and strong conection with music and not playing according to aesthetics of the genres, and singer always being late and some of them not being in 7/10 rehersals is what I experienced with the time passing by. I pointed at all of the good and bad things and I was fired because some songs were not clear to me and I asked someone to count for me when my drumming will enter the song. I should continue being a solo acoustic entertainer and maybe find a singer who plays the guitar too.

Badass advice man, thanks for posting!

0:55 I love how you just let the cat out of the bag in the beginning. It made me laugh, the way you said it. Very True though.

Could you do a video on how to fire/let go of a bandmate?

@elricpharesmusic

6 жыл бұрын

Sure

@FLOODOFSINS

6 жыл бұрын

Pim van der Vliet Just play the first 30 seconds of 2 Live Crew - ( get the fuck out my house ) when they walk in.

My 1st band ended up dying out, because of these 5 reasons ( and many more ) regarding the singer, all at once Lollll...Thanks for your guidance to newer bands. Great video Elric 💪😁🤘🏻

The struggle is definitely real

The singer of our band considered himself to be a feature artist and he kept most of the money. He treated the rest of us like expendable hired hands. Work out the financials first people, it will save headaches down the road.

I've got tons over 200 cd's in my car at all times, but I listen to pain cylinder quite often man. You have potential. I'm a huge megadeth fan and have 10+ of their albums, full metallica discography as well, and tons of other's as well (pantera, T0N, NiN, Rammstein, etc.)..

@elricpharesmusic

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you my man, appreciate that :-)

I wish you had delved deeper into the financial issues the bands face. Besides the general lack of funds the biggest battles are over distribution of income. Many outsiders think everything is split evenly, however that is rarely the case. In my last two bands I earned a considerably larger share of the pie on revenue streams like sound recording and public performance royalties because I wrote or co-wrote most of the material, as well as acting as a co-publisher and co-producer. Touring revenue, however , was split evenly as we were all on stage giving 100%.This often caused hard feelings and bruised egos .I could got deeper into the complex web of royalty distribution but I shall refrain from over-complicating the issue. You, as a seasoned musician, have surely experienced some of these same issues. I would love to know your thoughts.

@beatlecristian

Жыл бұрын

I mean well with my comment. If you write the songs, you should get more royalties. What’s wrong with that?

@ButWhyMe...

Жыл бұрын

​@@beatlecristian I mean, put your head in their mind. You're flat broke, play their song, and your sum of cash can barely buy a cheeseburger while they get most of the cash to pay your rent 2x over. It's infuriating.

Wow! This is a rare and special video. This helped me. I watch a lot of these kind of videos but I know the truth when I hear it.

Extremely interesting. Thank you.

Such a great video, very charismatic

Elric how do you handle when there is conflicts in the songs the band wants to play? I have a cover band going I play bass in and I don't know how to handle the differences in opinion of what we should choose as songs.

Have a Band is like a marriage..................

Can I add one reason? When any band member says 'Hey can we cover a Kanye song?'

@Jonbo117

3 жыл бұрын

Kanye ain't bad.

@I.am_Groot

3 жыл бұрын

@@Jonbo117 Lol.. then you cover his stuff!

@Jonbo117

3 жыл бұрын

@@I.am_Groot I'm not a rapper nor a producer. I'm a guitar casual. The must interesting thing about me is that I'm good at fingerpicking.

#6 blame the bass player lolz i play bass :)

@elricpharesmusic

6 жыл бұрын

lol

@toms4442

5 жыл бұрын

As a bass player myself I find usually the reason Bella bands I've been in that are broken up I've been the other members LOL! I quote The Godfather, god daddy of all bass players Derek Smalls" I am the lukewarm water between David and Nigel's Fire and Ice"! Truer words were never spoken!

Having been in a lot of bands that broke up, I can testify to every single one of these points.

@sarahmur7701

2 жыл бұрын

maroon 5 is still together

I'm right at the place where I'm losing enthusiasm. It's been a year, we're still playing the same 12 songs with no bass player. No social media. Nothing. Is this normal?

@AlexCampana1

2 жыл бұрын

Social Media the main publicity for a band these days.I've been a vocalist/guitarist for 15 years. Until recently I've picked up the Bass, it can add so much sound and body to your songs.Also i can Sing and play easier now

Unfortunately these days its ALL about the singer. It is the way now in the business. Musicians are all side guys now and hired guns so its unavoidable. If you want a true BAND, that my friend is tough to find. It's not the 1980s anymore where bands were a gang all for one one for all...not anymore.

@gordocarbo

3 ай бұрын

Agree....that was my era, trying and eventually getting signed. Small family with a dose of disfunction.

A many long time ago, i was told "you're just the drummer. You dont know what we're talking about." So i learned to play guitar, bass, and piano. I learned theory, and to read. Sight read. so i could speak the language. Let me tell you, it really pisses em off when you know what they're saying. Its like being around people who dont know you can understand what they say behind your back. And in many casses better than them. But instead of embracing that, and using it to an advantage for the band...no, no, no. You're just the drummer.

The main reason that the I had band broke up is that it was a secondary school band the member choice was limited and music interest was different

I think if you’re in a band and the leader refuses to rehearse and learn new material makes the rest of the band bored and frustrated. It is also frustrating for a audience to hear a band do the same songs over and over.

My band keeps turning down are jam sessions

I've lost so many friends starting bands. Lol.

Elric, do you like Gojira ?

Im a drummer. I have heard way too many times in some form from Some premadonna singer or guitar player "How come you know how to read music? You're just the drummer".... You wanna break up a band? Talk sht to your drummer.

hahaha great advice man u forgot to mention one type of guy ...the one wants to live the life of a rock star but doesnt want to put effort on it

Family is also one of the factors.

The older I get the less patience I have I've been playing with the same people off and on for years my main issues are practice being to damn loud where it drowns out everything. Can't even hear the drums half the time and my.other issue is my guitar player had had unhealthy obsession with kurt Cobain so everything we lkay sounds like nirvana in a unoriginal way. Rant over

Prima donna here, you are right.

My band is suffering streamline issues with making a song because of this fucking pandemic. The bassist and founding member today said he feels like we are taking our dying breaths, and that only him and another guy seem to be bringing things to the table. The thing is, the table is electronic, and our drummer has no place to drum outside of our jam space. I have nowhere to scream, and all our demos and ideas are months old. I feel like its unfair to be told that the band is more than just the bassist and guitarist when I really can't do much with the tools I have, other than some rinky dink less than a month of experience ableton production. Until now I've been recording vox on a 6 minute song and now that it's over I have to come up with another way to show them I care as much as I do. It's messy.

Greatest rock guitarist ever - Bo Diddley.

Me i like alot to sing and i will like to be in an band

Didn't realize Jonathan was part of the band!

@elricpharesmusic

6 жыл бұрын

He was the original guitar player in my band Pain Cylinder until he was replaced by Jesse Hunter

@Throwingknifekiller

6 жыл бұрын

Well it's good to know you guys still have a solid relationship. And I'm glad you're doing well, Elric!

back in the day 60s 70s, the leads girlfriend this would happen, 'oh god she's great singer', she joins the band soon this would always happen the lead got a girlfriend, she had to join the band signing then she was in playing around, after awhile the lead would blame everybody fault but hers, aah, yea the band would break up, then guys would do drugs......first one was bennys speed, then San Francisco, the next it was heroin and stealing the money to buy that heroin, this was all before I turn 18 which sent me back to college, lol it was an experience, which help later in life, most times I could see threw the lies, hey this great coke.....haha. remember that fake fake coke int he 80's, yeah, I seen guys get shot over that, then party's were always downers nobody was in good mood. that a long time and glad I have move on.....retired, yeah

I"m SO FUCKING EXPERIENCED ALL THAT staff man........... :/

What kind of genre Elric play?

@elricpharesmusic

6 жыл бұрын

Power Metal

Is there a band that stay together forever? Meaning original members stayed together.

@YamiAnubisX

4 жыл бұрын

No but if they do stay together, it's probably a very niche known band. In this day and age, not only does a band need instruments and a singer but if you want to get big, I mean real big, that singers gonna have to have moves or as I like to say more than just a singing talent because lightshows aren't enough unless you like being a small time band.

@gordocarbo

3 ай бұрын

@@YamiAnubisX THere are bands today that have been together for decades.

@Emanresuadeen

5 күн бұрын

The Rolling Stones

Elric, do you like Rammstein?

@elricpharesmusic

6 жыл бұрын

Yes

1. Money 2. Drugs/ alcohol addiction 3. "Artistic differences" 4. Massive egos 5. Chicks Is that about right???

Iv actually toured Europe for 2 months and I got paid €30 while the singer guitarist had all the rest. It went on "fuel" and "bus hire"

I'm gonna guess, those three without watching the vídeo... Money Women Ego

Is it worth being in a band unless there is a lot of money coming your way? First you have to find people with dedication. Than you have to do a lot of work that may never pay off. Than you have to deal with a lot of crazies everywhere. If it was easy everyone would try it. Probably most jobs are easier than being in a band. No one gets "money for nothing and chicks for free."

Quality content my band smokes weed together we have fun

@YamiAnubisX

4 жыл бұрын

I've seen what that does to people and eventually you won't be having much more fun cause you will be dead.

@zoogboog106

4 жыл бұрын

You’re right we all became dead recently

@YamiAnubisX

4 жыл бұрын

@@zoogboog106 in Time it will happen, you joke but once you start, it becomes an addiction, one that cannot stop and will consume you like it did my mom and friends. My mom died from her addiction to alcohol back in 1998, drove off a bridge and died in a hospital bed brain dead, she was gonna die from that or lung cancer from smoking like a chimney or skin cancer due to laying in the sun all the time, she also had MS. I will bring up the fact that when I was 3 years old, my mom let my less than 1 year old sister be in a bath tub, while my mom was doing something else, probably drunk as a skunk and my sister drowned, so fuck off with your joking. I could bring up so much but joke joke joke cause life's is so funny.

@zoogboog106

4 жыл бұрын

YamiAnubisZX you’re an idiot wow

6. Girlfriends

5 piece band...5 type A personalities...constant head butts...but kick ass gigs P.S. I'm the key to success..lol

I'd rather be fishing... Never should have felt that way while playing lead it was such a bad mix.

Treating the drummer as if they're expendable, or stupid,

This is a tough one because drugs and alcohol have been responsible for creating some of the best songs ever. So as a consumer of music, I say keep going and keep doing it. But obviously as a sane, responsible, and sober person I can't condone that Behavior. Sometimes you just can't have the same imagination and creativity unless you're fucked up. You can't have it both ways. R.I.P Kurt Cobain

@xstumbleine

3 жыл бұрын

As a longtime musician and tour manager, I can say this is complete bullshit. This is a myth that has been fed to people for decades, if not centuries. Greatness does not come from drugs, it comes from dedication, deep respect of the craft and fellow collaborators, and having the resources you need to keep creating. Musicians rarely have the resources they need in the way that western culture has taught us to regard music as a 'lesser than' form of earning a living, with seedling bands being relegated to performing in bars or late at night, plied with booze by venues (but not typically fed). They are signed, if they are 'lucky,' paid embarrassingly small amounts of the revenue they produce (label takes at least 50% of record sales in perpetuity, booking agent takes 20% from gross show revenue, venues often take 40% of show income and 20% of merch revenue, manager takes 20% gross of everything), and then the band are expected to pay for gas, hotels, buy 2-3 meals a day on the road, plus tolls, instrument and equipment repairs or purchases, etc out of pocket. Many sink into depression over the constant uphill battle and lack of income, then default to dissociative mechanisms learned in childhood and/or give up.

@gordocarbo

3 ай бұрын

@@xstumbleine This!!! Anyone who claims they can only write or play well high..well good example of brain damage there .