Great video man. Just getting started on shaman myself this time around in WOTLK, so exciting to hear they perform well. I like your take on playing classes based on what you enjoy rather than simply going from meta to meta. Keep up the good work on these videos my friend.

@Deathinacann

Жыл бұрын

they do well in phase 1 then fall off more and more as the expack goes on

@szwab91

Жыл бұрын

They do not :D

@timtaylor8953

Жыл бұрын

@@Deathinacann We'll see how it goes. If it gets horrible, there is always healing. If I remember correctly..they still heal effectively

@thisisyol

Жыл бұрын

@@timtaylor8953 one of my most iconic memories is me healing as a Shaman in trial of the crusader. Those heals crit BIIIIIG. Other healers need way more time to react to a tank dropping to 30% hp.

Pretty cool video, I am going to play shaman myself. At 06:30 you show your UI on your shaman, which addons are you using, and is there a way to copy your interface with maelstrom bars etc. ?

Make sure to check out Simonize's channel for the best Rogue content around! kzread.info

Hi can you link the WA that you used for death knight pls?

Damn Sarthe KZread page taking off. Well deservedly. I miss classic vanilla days.

Where I can find weakAuras profiles for pre-patch 3.4.0?

Your videos are always so in-depth and awesome! I’d love to see a WRath arms warrior video! Maybe even talking about the transition into fury through the phases.

Where should we look for how to tank as a BDK?

Thanks to all those videos I have most likely only 1Warrior 1 Hunter and 2 Shamans in my 25 men raid to share tokens with so thanks for that :D

Another great video, Sir! Rogue 63 on Skyfury! Warlock next. 🙏♠️💕

Shaman UI looks very nice and clean. Can you please share how you got that UI?

Where's the frost DK guide link in the description?

Would really like a guide on unholy dualwield from you :)

what about 2h UH dk ? whats the difference between 2x 1h dmgwise - is it only better in p1 / t7 content ? or with preraid bis blue gear ?

@puLseinHD

Жыл бұрын

Would like to know too

What are the addons used ?

Yep I had the most fun in my WoW career during wotlk playing my main Enh Shaman. Back when I could only raid with 5-10fps if that. Now I can play and actually see the pixels 😂 and particles.

When I saw the title I was not that keen on watching your video. Because DPS classes in Wrath will surprise everyone. Each class will be stronger each phase, the comp setup, 10 or 25 man etc etc etc. But your in depth description of the 3 classes and how the DPS "looks like right now and what we know" is amazing. Keep up this amazing content!

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

Yet he is wrong lol 😂

@juniorfan7a

Жыл бұрын

Noobs

Great video mate, I especially like the part where you timestamped the numbers instead of the classes so I couldn’t just cheat my way to victory 🤣

@carpathiandraco88

Жыл бұрын

I feel personally attacked

@tagarpekerti4550

11 ай бұрын

😊😊😊😊😊

When people actually looked at the dps from the wotlk release, enhancement shaman was one of the lowest overall dps. How does this work with this video? I don't understand it.

Affliction warlock is not number one?

Pulled that arm muscle rubbing a fast one over wotlk huh my man?? I respect it - spellhance has us all wild up

@corbenharris646

Жыл бұрын

My raid lead was originally thinking of not bringing an enhance, but I’m glad to see he changed his mind. Shaman bis forever

@Youcandoanythingyoudream

Жыл бұрын

Wiled.

@beyOndzZz

Жыл бұрын

Spellhance is just fun spec. Not better than regular enhance.

@landofsyn2980

Жыл бұрын

@@beyOndzZz it’s better in every way the rock is better then you in life

Great video. Mained enhance since original Vanilla in all expansions up through Legion then I stopped playing. Mained enhance in Classic and Classic TBC. Will main enhance in Classic WotLK as well. Super stoked Spellhance is performing so well. My only thing is deciding what my off spec will be. Instead of being enhance/resto or enhance/ele most likely will just be two different specs of enhance one with imp WF totem and one without for 10 man’s based on comp. Either that or just have my 2nd spec be a pvp build. Excited for duel spec either way.

@Deathinacann

Жыл бұрын

they do well in phase 1 then fall off more and more as the expack goes on

Is this just for phase 1 damage rate?

Top video , as usual ! cant wait for the Hunter guide *.*

not sure if i should go spellhance or unholy DK for classic wotlk. since later phase DK is provident to be good at all spec , and shaman could get outscale later phase(also take way high amp-more mistake)

@veppy4952

Жыл бұрын

just...play what you like more? lol

@jacechan5499

Жыл бұрын

@@veppy4952 they both quite proc base and spammy

Spellhance is great dps and really fun but the playstyle gets exhausting after a while in phase 1 there are a lot of movement boss fights which means you need to constantly monitor your fire totems along with several other elements so yes it is good and fun but just know it takes the most skill out of any melee class by a mile

These are all the classes I play have lock/enh sham/rogue at 70 and going frost dk with wotlk

When you watch whitewolfs video. I had to reduce play speed by 25% because he talks so fast in the video. And he sounds normal lol

Yo Sarth 2 time here. Solid vod we did a heroic together on beta and you afk on me @ the start. But all good GG

I've been playing LK for over 13 years and I've never seen a shaman in the top dps, not even close to warlocks, dks, and arcane mages. lol

my guy has some flawless skin. Nice vid too

What song is that playing in the background?

Hi please send me best dps talent for DK

I totally missed this, Why dual wield unholy? why is it better than 2h?

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

It not. Guy tested a new rotation in his private server and made build with duel wield. However based on testing the number are not doing that much in prt and are very low to what he was showing. So take it grain salt. Private servers tend to get a lot calculation wrong. To many bug with classes as well in prt.

What is the best race on horde for spellhance shami and why? Thanks a lot

@idewmeth4203

Жыл бұрын

I reckon the orc racial would make orcs the best, because of the attack power/spell power conversion on shamans

@gieslebt

Жыл бұрын

Orc because you get AP and SP. Troll haste is nice, but for spellhance specifically, the haste isn't as important.

@sirsander4209

Жыл бұрын

Orc bis for enhance

enhancement is extremely gear dependent to not even be in the top dps and most guild will bring only one shaman to raids since lust is raid wide now.do you think enhance has a spot over ele with totem of wrath for caster heavy raids?...lol......fyi ret does way mroe damage then enhancement...lol. my advice id sont play enhancement unless you are going to get arena weapons or have a lot of gold for gdkps.

If you are the top 1 dps, why are you in the number 4 on your recount?

I agree with the warlock but both Dk and shaman are actually on the lower end according to data. Rogue mage hunter typically perform a lot better then both Dk and shaman

How come rogues and dks are top dps bt far in every naxx ive seen ran in beta

My main was going to be Pally but my guild just did sign ups for wrath raiding and there's 9 in our 25 man. So here I am looking into DK.

@elliottramos2149

Жыл бұрын

9 pallies? I can tell your raid leader don’t know what he’s doing

@elliottramos2149

Жыл бұрын

You just need 4

@juniorfan7a

Жыл бұрын

Actually you can 25 pally everything

one of the main differences...with DK exception..cos op class is how close every class is..for the most part. To the point where a very good player on a non top 3 class, can get extrememly close or even out perform/dmg a stronger class if that class is played by a pleb/nab There's definitely going to be some logs with skewed looking class order in your standard guild that isn't a top 100 world guild filled with full min max'ers

rogue affli will top the charts!

Enhance rotation was so crazy in wotlk. I remember when my guild let me dps instead of heal 1 raid and i topped meter. Then i got into the enhance videos and learning how to play it. Insane fun spec back then, the most in-depth rotation ever except maybe feral at that one point

@noelfarkas4038

Жыл бұрын

I think it was playing on a piano or something similar :D

@reuterss306

Жыл бұрын

Its an easy priority rotation....chill bro

@christoffer5875

Жыл бұрын

@@reuterss306 easy compared to what? Its more complex than any other rotation in wotlk, and than any priority list in retail. Soo compared to what

@Rand_live_

Жыл бұрын

@@christoffer5875 Spellhance Rotation Right here ladies and Gents super fuckin ez So it would be like this lets say pull is in 10 seconds Pop cd's whilst running at boss/ Then Cast Hero/Flameshock (maintain this debuff)/stormstrike/earthshock/lava lash/earthshock till you need to re apply flame shock and use your maelstrom stacks as they come 3+ stacks is needed to not reset your swing timer so only cast if you have 3 or more stacks

@christoffer5875

Жыл бұрын

@@Rand_live_ Thats not the correct priority. Sad low dps

Little secret from me for you. Back in the days the ghostwolfs are getting the bloodloost buff, so make sure that the First BL is with your Wolfs from another shaman and the second Wolfs get your BL. Because you can use the spell with a debuff on you. Sorry for my bad english 😅

@calebcastro9889

Жыл бұрын

You get a 10 min debuff where you can’t use heroism

@tisco650

Жыл бұрын

@@calebcastro9889 no, you cant Profit from the buff, but your Wolfs can 😉 and you have a debuff, but no CD on the spell. Trust me or test it.

@theluckylux

Жыл бұрын

@@calebcastro9889 You can re-cast BL but wont receive the buff. So the new set of wolves will not have the debuff and can benefit from the BL which is really nice. =D

Warlock only pumps in phase 1 and falls off to midtier especially if blizzard doesn’t buff the bosses like they gonna do in naxx, due to shorter execute phase. Spellhance is all good and fun but falls off after Toc aswell. Top deeps are rogue and dk throughout the whole expansion. But tbh wotlk is a pretty balanced expansion, I saw literally any class topping meters on certain bosses. Trap mastery MM hunters are very underrated aswell

@Deavhrmordhau

Жыл бұрын

How much are they getting buffed do we have data

Spellhancement is actually the number 1 dps on the wotlk beta, it's insane early on. It's not gonna top dps in ICC because of the way scaling works, but it'll still be mid tier in the worst case. Tldr: it's worth it, and it's easily the most fun dps spec out there. Try it.

@bradleymarchand560

Жыл бұрын

Fun is person based. Where you have fun others may not.

@adrianmlodzik7713

Жыл бұрын

From my experience it turns from S+ tier to around A in icc which is still pretty damn good and can definitely do huge numbers

What’s the best spec to level as a DK?

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

Unholy more dmg and survivability. With very sustained aoe.

@Akusa202

Жыл бұрын

frost

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

@@Akusa202 no unholy

@Akusa202

Жыл бұрын

@@freezax4 when you're killing mobs in a couple of hits leveling in prepatch, i assure you the better choice is not unholy.

Title for all of wotlk? But the top dps is only top for phase 1 spellhance? lol

I already said F it and my dps spec will be either Boomie or Shadow. I know I can't top the meters, so I will be there to help other people top theirs. I am 100% happy being Joe Dumars.

@stemina32

Жыл бұрын

yea - don't compare yourself to other classes ! Do good with your own class and focus on it

@dukemagnum4615

Жыл бұрын

Nailed that analogy. Lol i’m going all in Arms war for the first time ever. Idc if it’s a chart topper or not.

@knarf427

Жыл бұрын

It's cool, you just won't be top

@TheRosswise

Жыл бұрын

@@knarf427 Yeah, and I am fine with that. Like I said in my original message.

@jacobfernandez813

Жыл бұрын

Love the basketball analogy. For me, I just feel this immense social pressure to perform or I wont be let into raids or groups. Idk what to do..

Spellhance is gonna fall off hard in ulduar tho

so what about throughout the entire expansion though? are enhancenment shamans still #1? or only ion 1st phase?

@potworzgo

Жыл бұрын

You still want to have 1 enhance shaman in ICC 10 heroic even at the very end. So yes i would say enh is prob most flexible and wanted class in party

@doncorleone1720

Жыл бұрын

you only want 1 spellhancer/ench in your raid so

@potworzgo

Жыл бұрын

@@doncorleone1720 no. In phase 1and 2 enh pumps so much and so fast that you want to stack em. Only after phase2 you need 1and still its mandatory for 10mans

@doncorleone1720

Жыл бұрын

@@potworzgo yea spellhancer is cool get some wraith strikes

@potworzgo

Жыл бұрын

@@doncorleone1720 yeah this weapon is biggest upgrade(with torch being few % better) but pre raid BiS is blacksmithing main jand dagger that also has slow speed (2.5s) which makes him almost as good as wraith strike

Me thinking leveling a shaman currently is going to be pointless; noiceee

My boy sarthe sleeping on the arcane mages smh

Correct me if im wrong but didnt they kill Spellhance ? their spells dont benefit from spell power or something and the totem dont scale ? i heard it as a rumor so dont quote me :)

@Gwionllyr

Жыл бұрын

Invalid info unless that's as of today. just about everything in the shaman tool kit scales with spell power.

@abduljabars

Жыл бұрын

If that was the case....ele would never be a thing

@ivailomendarov2378

Жыл бұрын

@@abduljabars well not entirely on point but its fine ,shaman was and always will be a support class so it does not make sense for them to top damage metters on most encounters anyway :) and they wont ,here and there maybe .

@abduljabars

Жыл бұрын

@@ivailomendarov2378 If shamans spells didn't benefit from sp......ele wouldn't be a thing. Plan and simple. I don't know where in my first comment I said anything about dps meters or literally anything else

Takk!

.. at around 7.15 u say only shamans bring haste to the raid. Boomies also bring haste, only 3%, not 5% as shamans do, but still :P

Ouro? you mean the dude that stole Sulfuras from a guild back in Classic ? lol

This is solely for Phase 1

SpElLhAnCe

Are any DK 2h specs competitive?

@Brumfield85

Жыл бұрын

Unholy

Hunter is fine to Dude

This isn't top 3 classes, it's top 3 (4) specs.

Hi all rogues xD funny video ;)

there is no gaming spirit anymore. just youtubers and their bussines

I have said it early, and can bet my life on it. Warriors will effin' pump. And they will do so earlier than people think.

@flagermusen

Жыл бұрын

They pump in ICC with smourne that is guaranteed.

where is warrior? revenge spam is way better than these 3

All i hear is DW unholy, hows 2H unholy doing??

@doncorleone1720

Жыл бұрын

2h Unholy is fucking insane dude. DW unholy is overrated beta server garbage dont trust them .

@actionjackson7020

Жыл бұрын

2h unholy is the way to go, this dw unholy stuff wont happen when it goes live. The fact they are basing this off of known bugs is sad

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

@@actionjackson7020 not doing very well in prt at all. The rotation is more complex. Just a private server wow player wanting clout.

@actionjackson7020

Жыл бұрын

@@freezax4 yeh figured as much.

Main is warrior, but i’m hard stuck on choosing A rogue or enhancement as alt….hardest expansion to pick lol

@akadvtime1900

Жыл бұрын

Agree... I'm changing my mind daily on what to main

@dukemagnum4615

Жыл бұрын

@@akadvtime1900 If i wasn’t going for shadowmourne it would be a lot easier to pick 😂

sleeping on fire mages

If you look back at old logs, you’ll see that Combat & Assasination were pretty much 1:1 on most single-target fights in ICC 25nm. It’s not until you get until T10 HC with the LK weapon, STS + DBW and 1400 armor penetration that Combat does laps around Assasination and frankly everyone else if played by a skilled rogue.

@kiirbstomp

Жыл бұрын

But combat dumpsters assass on overall though so might as well swap to combat

Mages?? Hunters??

@Average1212

Жыл бұрын

Both are mid tier in WOTLK

@amfa29

Жыл бұрын

@@Average1212 mid tier ? what do you mean ?

@Asghaad

Жыл бұрын

This is for first raid tier, mages and hunters will get better later on

@doncorleone1720

Жыл бұрын

@@Asghaad excuse me? Survival hunter is top 3 dps in phase 1 and Mage is litterly the best range dps in ICC :( so sad u guys have nooo fucking clue and spread sooo much miss information

@Average1212

Жыл бұрын

@@amfa29 What do I mean...... well what I mean is that they are performing right in the middle of the dps range on the BETA. Seeing as the top beta parsers are also 95%+ parsers now I would assume it is not a lack of skill but the class. Even back in OG WOTLK hunter was mid tier and Mage required massive raid support to parse at the top.

First off, you should honestly update your title to "THE TOP 3 DPS CLASSES IN WOTLK CLASSIC FOR P1" or something because it sure fooled me and I bet more as well. Idc what is best or meta, I will play what I enjoy the most, Rogue. Coming from a "not so melee friendly" expansion (TBC) they are S-tier dps in Wrath and not just at the very end like some classes like Ret are, which many seem to (over)sell. Starting off as Assationation ofc as Combat turns on around mid Wrath, around Ulduar ish when you start getting that sweet armorpen. Just my honest thoughts and ofc thanks for sharing yours Sarthe and lastly, you should not pick a class that is "best" just for the start if you're into that min/max in entire expansion. As for this bad rumor of dual wield UH DK meme, here's a reality check: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pJ1oprStd6fJiqg.html

@yaboyflvckor456

Жыл бұрын

rogue only gets good w armor pen which is end of the exp.... dont at me. i play lich for last 5years man.

Lol shaman? one of the lowest damage classes in the game is on your list??? Insane most guilds will bring a resto for blood lust and will not bring either of the dps spec's enhancement is ok t7 but still lower than warlock and rogue by some ways and is totally garbage past that.

Top class is the one you find fun.

@Ryan_hey

Жыл бұрын

sweet, I'll let Blizzard know which one I find the most fun and then they can make it top dps.

ONCE ICC, t10 and SM becomes available , warrior, mage and rogue deal 30% more dmg than any other spec in every single boss

@micco35

Жыл бұрын

Sure, but this video is about phase 1

So disappointed in feral atm. Hoping they get there moment later.

@Maxmustermann99150

Жыл бұрын

It was obvious, that blizzard would kill feral

@CodeNashor

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry. I have so far destroyed every single dps meter. Heroics + Naxx when it was open. Too bad you guys are just bad at feral and then spreading the word they're disappointing. I had some issues with threat however here and there where I needed to chill :/ Shit tanks all around...

@Kiewicz92

Жыл бұрын

It will be amazing if you know how to play it

@Average1212

Жыл бұрын

@@CodeNashor go back and get your AQ trinket, problem solved.@

@doncorleone1720

Жыл бұрын

@@CodeNashor THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111

hi bro

Lol sure dude

Put for p1 in your title before people ree.

But I chose hunter 😢

enhance sham #1 yet in that whole preview not once was it top dps :(

@vanidar21

Жыл бұрын

Ive seen plenty of raids where spellhance was comfortably 5-10 % ahead of the pack in both st and aoe, clip might just have been not the best.

@luciusmankin6715

Жыл бұрын

unholy gonna top charts hands down specially in speed runs disease has no aoe cap and with the new haste changes garg is gonna wreck st also if you roll troll just for unholy but guess will see that's my 2 cents and ench falls off quite a bit in the following tiers where unholy kinda levels off from totc to icc but guess will see blizz is know for changing shit on a whim ..

No rogue lol....

everytime i hear someone refer to enhance as spellhance i can physically feel the shaman discord reloading their ak47's. It's literally putting on a spellpower weapon and maybe some jewellery. You don't call a marksman/survival hunter marksvival so stop trying to make it a thing.

@potworzgo

Жыл бұрын

You change glyphs weapon, weapon imbue and weapon enchants plus your stats weight and on top of that spell priority is changed for spell power build, its reasonable people call it spellhance just as people call frostfire build mage

@chryomadzz4360

Жыл бұрын

@@potworzgo right click wf and apply ft weapon to mh. Oh shit son. Spell prio changes? Err no. We follow the same spell prio and we hard cast spells at 3-4 maelstrom regardless of spell mainhand or not. Stat prio doesn't change. You keep doing you tho

@potworzgo

Жыл бұрын

@@chryomadzz4360 you change spell prio, if you dont while going spell power weapon and glyphs for fire nova then you will do shit. Fire nova goes up in prio with sp build while for ap weapon build is the lowest prio. Lava lash is your last prio on spell power enhance while is pretty high on ap weapon build. Over hit cap is much worse for normal enhance then it is for spellhance. Anyone claiming that playstyle is the same is prob blue parsing enha shaman

@chryomadzz4360

Жыл бұрын

@@potworzgo you clearly get your info off icyveins mate. Keep trying. Lava lash is the worst spell we have regardless of spec and should only be pressed when theres nothing else to press. Theres a shaman discord with all this info im done trying to help. Just don't want others taking your bad advice

Yeah rite bruh? I am destroying all of these atm as feral. You will see good ferals dominate for sure.

@sNNNNNable

Жыл бұрын

ikr. . did nax 3 times on beta and was top dps in every run as feral lol

@Average1212

Жыл бұрын

@@sNNNNNable I love you chat chads, post the logs. Being top of a shit group means nothing. So far there have been no feral hanging with the top boys in the logs.

lmao imagine calling spellhance top dps while your clip shows locks topping the meters

Ur last list was completely brain dead let’s hope this is better

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fury warrior not even mentioned cringe

@voo7210

Жыл бұрын

Fury sucks in the early phases

you did not just throw out an ahlanudo plug when that dude is trash, hes literally getting farmed by puppykiss. the dude needs 2 warriors just to try and get rank 1 each week lol. maybe in wrath he will make a 3rd warrior so he gets another chance to get a rank 1 lmfao

@voo7210

Жыл бұрын

Who cares about PvE parses anyway

@mikeiscoo2

Жыл бұрын

@@voo7210 lol everyone who uploads to warcraft logs..

Back in the day and on private servers I was the best frost DK, top dps in every raid and in arenas, I soloed 2v2 alot. Can't wait to do it again.

Sadly he is wrong. Best Dps will be Feral, second one will be Enhancer. Everything Else is pmuch close to euch other. And bro there is no different on Priv Servers. Warmane is without any changes. Played 4 Seasons there and it was always the same. At the Start and even with BiS t7.5 Feral and Enhancers are the best. In Ulduar Feral will still be #1

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

Private servers are wrong about alot of mechanics and dmg numbers.

@sheetshoqx3708

Жыл бұрын

​@@freezax4 Sure. Warmane is wrong. 🤭

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

@@sheetshoqx3708 yes they are quite a bit. Lol 😂 if you don’t understand that it not perfect copy then u need help. Take what private server says with grain of salt unless it is quest or leveling guide.

@sheetshoqx3708

Жыл бұрын

@@freezax4 Bro you have no clue stop talking please

@Conical187

Жыл бұрын

@@sheetshoqx3708 I know one of the dev from warmane. I can confirm the numbers are not quite accurate.

When he said dw unholy I laughed so hard bruh.

@Variia

Жыл бұрын

Then youre not up to speed on this game.

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

@@Variia very up to speed. Dw unholy still does less than 2h and your rotation get more complicated with loss 5-8% dmg. Either way dk is not top 3 dps.

@yaboyflvckor456

Жыл бұрын

@@freezax4 dk and warlock are top dpsers lol

@freezax4

Жыл бұрын

@@yaboyflvckor456 warlock is top dk is not

@timm8998

Жыл бұрын

Numbers say DK is top dps class.

"if u wanna indepth guide to play warlock check out Crix's channel" yeah im gonna not do that

So wrong about everything :- )

Like this guy has any idea what he is talking about. Laughable

Mages also have bloodlust now brah 🥰

@stemina32

Жыл бұрын

yeah and the final boss of the expension is deathwing

@damianlabat9275

Жыл бұрын

WRONG

@joelwillis2043

Жыл бұрын

Wrong expansion brah

@doncorleone1720

Жыл бұрын

my hearthhhhhhhhhh

imagine thinking playing an enhance shaman is cool.

@Ryan_hey

Жыл бұрын

I mean, Thrall's quite the badass.

@valaquenta220

Жыл бұрын

How dumb can someone be to actually try to ridicule people who enjoy a particular class in a video game.

@geraltofrivia4651

Жыл бұрын

i pLaY uNdEaD RoGuE bRo

@ripstainmcripstain905

Жыл бұрын

There is no need to be upset. X

@Ryan_hey

Жыл бұрын

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