Quickly becoming one of my favorite PB channels

Great content, thanks! Really love your detailed methodical thoroughness.

Good video. Couple things from frequently asked questions on the fb rules forum. I think we need to get away from the term establish/re-establish when it comes to the nvz and one's feet. This term is not in the rule book and can add ambiguity as to what does re-establish mean. The rule only says both feet must make contact outside the nvz. Double hits in one continuous motion have always been legal. No change was made to that rule. What the change was is the removal of the word intentional in the carry rule. Previously, if you did not intend to carry the ball, you were fine. Now all carries are illegal regardless of intention. The change was made so refs did not have to get into the head of a player. I have never heard #19 be a misconception. More commonly is the situation where a player is standing out of bounds and gets hit by a ball before it bounces. They think because they were out of bounds, the shot should be considered out. It's an extension of the nasty nelson. Basically it is a fault on a player anytime they are hit by a live ball regardless of where they are standing. In regards to the momentum rule, I think it's important to talk about the time component of the rule. A ball becomes dead or the shot is played back by your opponent if the momentum from a previous volley takes you into the nvz, it is a fault on you. Many people have a hard time understanding why this is the case. There are a ton of questions on line calls. What makes a ball in, who's call is it, what if partners disagree etc etc. you could probably do a whole video on that.

Really well done and informative!

Great job explaining all the fault shots!! Many of the fault shots I did not know!

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

So glad it helped!

Great Vid thanks!!

Whoa, thanks for this!

excellent! I love hearing rule intricacies

Can’t believe yall didn’t address how long after a volley can you go into the kitchen, even if the point is “dead”…. I’m pretty sure until the next point starts. So if your opponent teeters on the kitchen line for 10 seconds then falls in after they put the ball away it’s a fault if you didn’t start the next point. I’m pretty sure! Not 100%. Would have been nice if yall addressed that. Maybe you could answer that by responding here. Other than that great video 💪🏼

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

There’s so many more to cover so we’ll likely do it again down the road!

@allanhee

18 күн бұрын

I've heard different views on this...are you allowed to physically intervene to prevent your partner from falling into the kitchen?

@connorcampbell885

16 күн бұрын

@@allanheeyes

@connorcampbell885

16 күн бұрын

After you volley a ball momentum cannot carry you in to the kitchen. You have to establish that your momentum has stopped, and then you can go into the kitchen

@TomNamyll

7 күн бұрын

@@connorcampbell885that makes the most sense

Awesome! My question is if the ball still hits the middle line on a serve but is more towards the other square? (You’re serving to your opponents right box and it hits the middle line but is mostly in the left box.

Well done. 👍🏼

Very well done video

Sheesh...that's kind of a lot to remember, but at least MOST of them are obvious. Good video...THANKS, guys

On #18 there actually is let re-serves in some (but not many) events/levels. At PPA Pro Level for example if the ball clips the net on the serve the ref will call "Let Serve, Re-Serve" and it's a re-do serve.

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Correct. At a pro level, some rules are different like lets and drop serves. We just covered what any amateur would need to know since that’s the most common

Commenting for th algo! Another great video by u2!

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Thank you!!

Great video! One point on touching the net. You can touch the net after the ball becomes dead and still win the point. For example, I hit my opponent with the ball and my follow through causes me to touch the net. It's my point as long as the ball became dead before I touch the net.

@CWK090

21 күн бұрын

touching the net is a fault only if the ball is live when you touch the net. That would happen so fast you would need a video replay to confirm the ball was dead (Hit opponent) before the paddle hit the net

I liked your list but there are a few others I would have liked to see. One, where to stand when serving and whether you can stand outside the side line (extended) when starting your service motion if you are within the lines when you actually make contact. Second, when you serve, you have to make contact with your feet outside the court boundary, but can you go into the court on your follow through after you make contact?

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

We made a whole serve video previously so decided to stay away from too many serve rules since they’ve been covered by us before. This is all good info everyone needs to know though!

Great video, Shea & Caleb! I incorporate a flat (i.e., no spin) upward toss into my service motion. Some players in my local meta have gotten belligerent about this being illegal. Keep in mind that these are folks who have no idea what the PPA is, so they're not even aware of the rules changes introduced this year for that pro circuit. I've had players argue that an upward toss falls under the "manipulation" definition of the restriction against imparting spin and manipulation on ball prior to the volley serve. What's the most definitive, authoritative source I can point these players to help them come around to understanding that they're interpreting the rule incorrectly?

Awesome video. Best thing,.... I knew all of these! So, when dinking, if you are outside the NVZ (kitchen), and you lean in, the ball actually bounces, you are leaning and hit it after the bounce in the kitchen, then you get your balance by resting your paddle on the ground in the kitchen... this should be ok, right! I think it is ok, but you can address this! It bounced first! Thanks...

have ya'll covered the double or triple bounce drop serve?

This is great! Helping settle some arguments. If a player tries to Nasty someone but they are standing outside of the blue box is that still a point?

@mklubeck

17 күн бұрын

Yes, it’s still a point

@mikesvirtualhikeandtours1721

16 күн бұрын

@@mklubeck Thank you!

If your opponent returns a ball to the outside line of the NVZ that subsequently backspins back over the net, can you then cross the net plane with your body to your opponents side of the court, and then hit the ball in to your opponent's side of court? I saw this happen the other day and opinions differed. Thanks in advance for your reply.

Great video - you addressed some uncommon scenarios that I never thought of before and cleared up some confusion from just reading the rulebook. I just wish you took some time to re-record and edit confusing sentences and clarify what (to me) sound like mispronounced words like illegal and legal. Section #1 BALL BOUNCING OVER THE NET 1:15 to 1:17 “... but if I hit the net, it doesn’t just end the rally…” I’m pretty sure you mean “if the ball hits the net”. Later on (#6), you specifically state that you can’t touch the net. Section #3 BEING ESTABLISHED OUTSIDE THE KITCHEN 2:09 to 2:15 “… if you ever step into the kitchen, you need to establish both feet outside to be (unintelligible) able to hit a volley after that point.” I re-played it a dozen times and most times it sounds like you say “illegally”, but by context you must mean “legally”. Suggestion: replace all words after “outside” with “before you return the volley to avoid a NVZ fault.” #4 ERNE CANT’ (sic) CROSS THE PLANE OF THE NET… 3:39 to 3:44 “The problem is, most players try to make contact on the opponents’ side of the court, and that’s legal.” Why not just say a fault? Once again, in context, it wouldn’t make sense to call this legal. #9 OBJECTS ON THE COURT and #11 CAN YOU THROW YOUR PADDLE TO HIT A BALL Multiple of questions here. 8:28 to 8:35 “if you take a volley out of the air and then your paddle drops into the kitchen, that would be a fault” - I think it’s a fault any time your paddle drops into the kitchen! 8:35 to 8:39 “but, if you take a volley out of the air and your paddle falls outside the kitchen, totally fine!” Section #9 states that objects dropped onto the court during play become part of the court until the play has ended. Does that apply to paddles? Is the player allowed to pick their paddle up and continue play if the ball is still in play? You preface many statements with "if you are swinging at a ball", do the rules change if you are throwing your paddle from one hand to another before swinging at the ball? Overall, the video was great and informative!

I have a question. If you take a volley outside of the kitchen and your paddle falls out of your hand INTO the kitchen (or any part of it falls on the kitchen line), its a fault. But WHAT IF it's sailing out of your hand and you can grab it, or grab at it, knocking it back out of the kitchen before it lands in there?

ok ok but what if the ball has so much underspin (or its super windy) that the ball bounces on your side of the court and hits the net (not the bar on a temp net) before you get a chance to hit it. Is that a re-do? Or a point for the other team since you failed to make contact with the ball?

Hey, that's cool you teamed up with Shea.

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Shea’s the best!

One that I experience all the time is the opposition talking after they hit the ball and it is my team's turn to play the shot. Is this a hindrance? Is there a hindrance rule?

@jaradgarren2740

12 күн бұрын

If your opponents are communicating to each other about the game, legal. If they say, "Don't miss!" or whatever to distract, not legal. From: 11.J. Distractions. Players may not distract an opponent when the opponent is about to play the ball. If in the judgment of the referee a distraction has occurred, the referee shall immediately call a fault on the offending team. and 3.A.7. Distraction - Physical actions by a player that are ‘not common to the game’ that, in the judgment of the referee, may interfere with the opponent’s ability or concentration to hit the ball. Examples include, but are not limited to, making loud noises, stomping feet, waving the paddle in a distracting manner, or otherwise interfering with the opponent’s concentration or ability to hit the ball.

What if I make a skyball serve with a lot of backspin and was able to make the ball come over the net. Can the returner step into the kitchen and reach over the net?

Foot on the kitchen line fault. There is a scenerio where it is legal. If your toe curl on the sole of your shoe goes up and back 2 inches before it touches the court, you are allowed 2 inches of your shoe on the line as your sole is technically not in the kitchen. Kitchen faults are surface related. I have contacted both pickleball canada and USAPA and both concur. Great video btw!!!

I now have to unlearn putting spin on the ball when tossing it for a serve 😬

If it hits any part of the center line (past the nvz line) it is a good serve.

If the ball hits the net, trickles onto the opponents’ kitchen (meaning the ball doesn’t hit the horizontal bar on the way down) and THEN bounces backward and hits the horizontal bar, is there a re-serve?

I have a question about the drop serve. Are you allowed to throw the ball into the air? I know that the rules say you can't throw it against the ground (because it would give an unusually high bounce), but what about throwing it upwards? If the ball is falling from higher it will bounce higher, so I assume it wouldn't be allowed, but I'm not 100% sure

@JimboC1957

22 күн бұрын

Can’t throw it in any direction. Probably why they call it a drop serve and not a bounce serve.

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Yep the rule is in the name. A drop serve must be a drop and nothing else. But the fun part about that serve is that you can hit it any way you like after it bounces

@randyblanton5580

21 күн бұрын

Can you get on one knee and drop the ball so you'll be in a better position for a slice serve?

Bro does rocket league and pickle ball KZread props to you

One I need to check…if you serve out of rotation or from the wrong side…what happens? And is it dependent on when it is noticed/realized?

@CrackedPickleball

16 күн бұрын

If no one catches you on it, you can actually just stay in that position and then keep playing. Even if someone notices later, they can’t take away a previous point from you. If they notice immediately after you serve from the wrong spot though, they can take your point for being in the wrong position

When does a volly momentum-continuation-into-the-nvz-fault possibility end? eg I volly, ball crosses the net and bounces twice and I fall into the nvz. ??

@CrackedPickleball

10 күн бұрын

Once your momentum changes direction! So if youre going forward after a volley, the continuation would end when you stop completely or go another direction

In doubles, during a serve, do both the players of the serving team need to be outside the serving line or only the one serving?

@CrackedPickleball

7 күн бұрын

Only the one serving needs to be behind the baseline. Partner’s stay behind the line often to get ready for the return that should come deep into the court

I probably miss heard this, but did you say the serve can hit the net and if it lands in the correct quadrant it is a legal serve and play continues? If so, why do they re-serve those “net” serves in MLP?

@CrackedPickleball

8 күн бұрын

Pros play by a slightly different set of rules than amateurs. One of those rules is that a serve that hits the net and still lands in is considered a let which leads to a re-serve. But for the majority of players who are not playing pro, the serve is played whether or not it touches the net.

Rules state that you can not make contact with the net system while the ball is live. 7.G. A player, a player’s apparel, or a player’s paddle contacting the net system, the net posts, or the opponent’s court, when the ball is live. #8 You also can not make contact with the NVZ with your paddle prior to volleying the ball. 9.B.2. If the paddle touches the non-volley zone during the volley motion, before or after contacting the ball, it is a fault. #9 If a ball falls out of your pocket during a rally that is a fault. 7.N. In non-officiated matches, players may carry an additional pickleball(s) as long as the ball(s) is carried in a way that the ball(s) is not visible to their opponent(s) during play. If an additional ball that a player was carrying falls on the playing surface during play, a fault shall be declared.

On #5, parts of the net. One thing not addressed in your video (which was very good by the way).On my court the wire holding the net is about an inch outside the post. If this is hit during an ATP, I believe this is a fault.

@krismraz10

21 күн бұрын

My understanding is the the cord (or tape) is part of the net even the part that passes over the post. So hitting that part would be legal.

@quaysys

21 күн бұрын

Hitting the cord between the end of the net and the post is a fault. Nor can the ball pass under the cord between the post and net

@mklubeck

17 күн бұрын

The second reply is correct…it’s a fault.

@nickperez3764

14 күн бұрын

@@mklubeck The second reply is NOT correct! A ball hitting the net cord between the end of the net and the post is not a fault. 11.L.1. If the ball strikes the top of the net or the top net cable or rope that is between the net post and the net and lands inbounds, it remains in play. A ball hitting the top of the post might hit only the cord, but as it would be impossible to determine that the ball only contacted the cord and not the post top, it would be ruled a fault.

@Tiberian64

10 күн бұрын

@@nickperez3764 Thanks! I agree - I reviewed the reference and I stand corrected.

First again? This may be my reminder to get off my PC and go play some more pickleball!

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Get out there!

During a rally, my partner volleyed a ball and teetered at the kitchen line. I saw this and went to grab her, but in the moment of it all, I wasn't sure if I could step into the kitchen to do the "saving". Is there a rule on stepping into the kitchen to save her? (I did pull her back and we won the point, YEA!) TIA.

@mklubeck

17 күн бұрын

If u were in the kitchen or entered it to help her, when you touch her “two became one” and its a nvz infraction

How about this one? The guy hit a slam shot, that hit the crossbar on the portable net, and bounced off of that and over the net. He tried to call it in, which was pretty funny, but I think he was serious. We called a fault.

Is it Legal to slam the ball into the kitchen on the opposite side??

Don't get why you'd lose point if your opponent called the score correctly and you stopped the rally, but they wouldn't lose the point if they called the score incorrectly.

#4 was confusing because you said your body can be carried past the plane of the next just fine, and immediately after that said if your body crosses the plane of the net into the opponent's side of the court, it's a fault.

@shih_nanigans

21 күн бұрын

contact has to happen on your side of the plane then your body can cross

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Yep! You’re allowed to cross the plane of the net if it occurs after you hit the ball. But if you cross the plane before you touch the ball, it’s a fault

@suybean1

12 күн бұрын

Follow up to this: If I break the plane on an erne prior to hitting the ball, it's a fault. In the scenario of the back spin ball bouncing on my side and bouncing over the net to the opponent's side, then it's okay to break the plane? Is that because the ball bounced first?

@shih_nanigans

12 күн бұрын

@@suybean1 i wouldn't say it's because the ball bounced first, but because you HAVE to cross the plane to contact the ball

Strictly from the USAPA? That PPA stuff causes the most confusion where I play.

you guys make a point on the first tip that we can only hit the ball on the other side once it has crossed the net-plane. so i can't reach over early and wait for it on the other side with my paddle?

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Yep pretty much!

@CWK090

21 күн бұрын

Ref "you guys make a point on the first tip that we can only hit the ball on the other side once it has crossed the net-plane." Your sentence is poorly worded. It should say "you guys make a point on the first tip that we can only cross the plane of the net with our paddle after the ball has crossed the plane of the net." The ball must cross the plane of the net before your paddle can cross the pane of the net to hit it.

@shih_nanigans

21 күн бұрын

@@CWK090 if you understood it then it's worded well-enough 😂

@CWK090

21 күн бұрын

@@shih_nanigans If the rule says (paraphrasing what you said) "The player can only hit the ball on the other side once it has crossed the net-plane." , then it would be OK to move your paddle across the plane of the net before the ball moves across the plane of the net, as long as you don't hit the ball, and that is not true. That is a fault. I'm not arguing. Just want readers to understand the rules. With rules, details matter.

same as in tennis, you have to hit the ball over the net before it bounces on the opponents court .. otherwise, you loose the point .. 😢

What if you're standing in the kitchen and a ball comes right at you -- can you leap up and volley in the air and land outside the kitchen?

@CrackedPickleball

16 күн бұрын

To hit a volley, both of your feet must start planted outside of the kitchen and then remain outside of the kitchen after the volley. So no, you can’t unfortunately

@frankmcmillan7309

16 күн бұрын

@@CrackedPickleball Thanks!

Since we’re getting into the weeds here’s a weird scenario: can your partner drop the ball for you on your drop serve? Can your partner toss you the ball on your volley serve? If legal that would blow your opponents minds first time you did it. 😂

@CrackedPickleball

21 күн бұрын

Oh man I would love that but no. They can call the score for you though!

Is that a tank behind your court?!

It would have been good to explain what an Erne was before explaining the rules around it. And, the bounce-back scenario was made complicated by the reversing of the pronouns - I guess you changed who was going to hit and who was going to return the bounce-back. Otherwise, nicely done.

How about when you're trying and Ernee and your oponen knows and hit you with the ball and you are on the air.? Ken you answer me.thanks

@CrackedPickleball

7 күн бұрын

No matter when, if you get hit with a ball, you lose the point! So even if you get hit while mid-air, you would lose the point.

#21 If the ball goes between the net post and the net, it is a fault.

10:58 Wait, you can serve with paddle above your wrist now?!

@johncampbell3912

20 күн бұрын

for drop serves there is no rule about the wrist or about below the waist.

@yukuhana

20 күн бұрын

@@johncampbell3912 Excellent, I am going to deploy my ping pong serves!!

You can hit into opponents side of net, but cant hit over the net line in another rule.. Noob here, just wondering..

I still don't understand your explanation of the "bounce over" rule. Is anyone else still confused? In the example, the taller player in dark blue explains that he's going to hit the spinning ball over, but then in the next segment the other player hits the spin shot. I think the "burning question" for most player is: If I hit the spin shot over the net, it bounces back into my court and no one touches it, whose point is it? Or do I have to play the ball as if it was "returned" to me even if a paddle on the opposite side never touches it...?

@rebekahtyler7406

19 күн бұрын

To answer your last question it would be whoever hit the spinning shots point. For example, player A hits a spinning shot over the net to player B. The ball comes back on player A’s side and lands without being touched by player B. That is player A’s point. Because player B never made contact it is ruled a double bounce against player B.

I feel like I need more clarification on the carry rule.

@CrackedPickleball

19 күн бұрын

Any ball that doesn’t immediately deflect off your paddle is considered a carry. The only exception is a “double hit.” A double hit is when the ball hit twice off your paddle in one motion. This is legal but a carry is not legal. If a ball hits 3+ times off your paddle in one motion, that is illegal

... that it's a sport...

Pickleball by itself is a misconception ..

@iuliannalomaeva7796

12 күн бұрын

cope

@tavomagno5

9 күн бұрын

@@iuliannalomaeva7796 no thanks

Was watching a pro title match from a couple months ago and the referee called a let on a serve. Is that just a pro thing?

@CrackedPickleball

9 күн бұрын

Just a pro thing. They have several different rules than amateurs

It seems like you are saying the ball can be thrown on a volley serve? Thought I saw some rules that opposed that?

@CWK090

21 күн бұрын

On a volley serve, you absolutely can throw the ball in any direction as long as you comply with the following 4 rules: 1) you can't impart spin to the ball before you hit it 2) paddle contact with the ball must be below your waist 3) upward motion with paddle when the ball is contacted 4) entire paddle face must be below the bend in your wrist when the ball is contacted On a drop serve, rules 2, 3 and 4 do not apply. Rule 1 applies to any serve. The only other rule on a drop serve is you can only open your hand and drop it. You are not allowed to impart any up or down motion to the ball.

@jmunt

21 күн бұрын

@@CWK090 you’re kinda both right. The pro level rules changed this year to no longer allow throwing upward on any serve, but at local tournaments it’s still allowed for volley serves. I wouldn’t be surprised if that rule trickles down to higher-level locals eventually to prevent people trying to get away with sneaky pre-spin

@CWK090

21 күн бұрын

@@jmunt Interesting. I know they 'test' potential rule changes at professional tournaments. As you saying pros have a separate set of rules?

@MichaelKamson

21 күн бұрын

@@CWK090 Yeah this one confused me, I also saw somewhere that they spoke about no throwing of the ball is allowed when doing a volley serve, the coaching course I went to also mentioned this and said it was something they were trying out at a pro level competition.

@CWK090

21 күн бұрын

@@jmunt On KZread, search “Professional referee explains 2024 serve rules” This is a test at the Masters Tournament and not yet an actual rule change. For the test, a volley serve must be dropped from no higher than waist level. That is how I have always served so no change for me.

If you hit the net in your play that is a fault.

This video seems to have old rules. Toss serves are no longer legal, right?

@CrackedPickleball

15 күн бұрын

This is all current and updated as of July 2024.

I thought if a spare ball falls out of your pocket it was a fault

@CrackedPickleball

19 күн бұрын

Only if it falls in the kitchen! But most players would call a let anyway if something like that happens to ensure no one trips over it

@spikex6597

18 күн бұрын

Incorrect

@Cacheola

18 күн бұрын

7.N. In non-officiated matches, players may carry an additional pickleball(s) as long as the ball(s) is carried in a way that the ball(s) is not visible to their opponent(s) during play. If an additional ball that a player was carrying falls on the playing surface during play, a fault shall be declared.

Geez....I just want to sweat

When young people already want to be retirees.😅

STRIPED??? Is that you?

@CrackedPickleball

19 күн бұрын

Shh 🤫

@aracmond9586

19 күн бұрын

@@CrackedPickleball lol

Somehow you made the first scenario even more confusing, the example was very poorly worded and lacking context

@CrackedPickleball

15 күн бұрын

Sorry man, I hope everyone else got it!

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