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@Bapper0

4 жыл бұрын

The Thing is highly rated and it’s still too underrated.

@DrKriegsgrave

4 жыл бұрын

being a 80's film fan i immediately became a supporter!! -- way to go, James!

@policevanposition1993

4 жыл бұрын

Only 10 dollars on Google play. I just bought it. I was one of those people who loved John Carpenters version. Although in my defense I had no fckin clue about this one. Thank you sir.

@airforce1328

4 жыл бұрын

This is fun to watch.

@b.a.n20O3

4 жыл бұрын

2011 Thing is a "prequel"

James, no offense to your dudes but you are way more insightful by yourself.

@TactileTherapy

4 жыл бұрын

only videos of his i watch

@frozendilemma

4 жыл бұрын

Absofuckinglutely!

@Dogdashdash

4 жыл бұрын

@Conrad Ferrus I guess he's a good writer (at least in reviews) and the "improv" or candid reviews with him and his guys are just not as good.

@TactileTherapy

4 жыл бұрын

@Ios5513 how dare i?

@kaltblut

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, I can't watch any of the videos with the other guys. Which is sad, because I like James content.

There's nothing quite like listening to James talk about the things he enjoys.

@itsyeaboi5333

4 жыл бұрын

'the thing's hah

@AdmiralBison

4 жыл бұрын

As well as the things that frighten him. *Jekyl and Hyde

@famousmcfly80

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. The group discussions are ok, but his individual episodes are so much more interesting.

@frankjaeger9997

4 жыл бұрын

I see what you did here. hahhaha.

@SomeGuy-my7en

4 жыл бұрын

This game sucks

Old movies don't deserve to be left in the dark. Especially if they're good

@kenzopo8125

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@linkfan160

3 жыл бұрын

Well said.

@thegoldenironchannel1191

3 жыл бұрын

Agree

@supermike12321

3 жыл бұрын

love the iko pfp

@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962

Жыл бұрын

Agree and Exactly

"What was that?" "Sounded like a window." That one line makes me want to watch it. Sounds like a line you'd have heard in "Airplane!"

@alexdasliebe5391

4 жыл бұрын

James Johnson 💯 correct! 😄

@VandescoGamer

4 жыл бұрын

I honestly don't think that was intended to be funny at all. Those actors did not actually have the sound effect while filming, so they are clarifying for the audience what broke.

@gordonshea2698

4 жыл бұрын

I think it was more a case that he was thinking out loud the implication being that something is either escaping through all coming in the window

@richmcgee434

4 жыл бұрын

@@gordonshea2698 That, exactly. There were other possibilities - we'd seen lots of glassware in a lab, for ex - and since the sound comes from off-camera giving the audience the hint was important.

@magnusquercu9905

3 жыл бұрын

A bah???

Listening to James talk about movies he likes makes me feel warm inside.

@jeanpaulmichell7243

4 жыл бұрын

Use an enema. Flushes out the 'warm' fluids that have been impacted inside you.

@efuuu

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeanpaulmichell7243 Geez...

@jeanpaulmichell7243

4 жыл бұрын

@@efuuu I mean, it is in-line with the Thing's assimilation process. Fluids go in, they come out altered.....

@CaveyMoth

4 жыл бұрын

I feel so warm inside..my stomach mouth feels good.

@kgpspyguy

4 жыл бұрын

If you like James so much then why dont’cha MARRY him?

When James is a better nostalgia critic than the actual NC.

@kanakawase

4 жыл бұрын

It helps that James talks about movies he loves, rather than just bashing them for yuks.

@FuNWithAChemicaLBomb

4 жыл бұрын

Bill CIA Wilson it's been this way since 2012

@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370

4 жыл бұрын

Ouch, that burn.

@Blisterdude123

4 жыл бұрын

For starters, the Nostalgia Critic has never been a critic. He's always been playing a phony character, who was basically a hack. Unfortunately, it spawned a tidal wave of other hacks, only interested in generating vitriol and buzz rather than actually critiquing things.

@stefandrakche

4 жыл бұрын

because he is The real filmmaker

My favorite part of the JC version that you didn’t really speak about was the supremely disconcerting paranoia resulting from the Thing being able to infect and impersonate people. It gave it a real “Salem witch trials” feel, where accusations were getting thrown all over the place and no one could be trusted. More than anything THAT is the specific quality that I liked most from his version.

@yeetiminguspro3438

Жыл бұрын

Like amogus?

I take issue the notion that Carpenter's version lacks subtlety. The obscurity of the sequence of events, the sheer lack of information given to the audience, the constant scheming and strategizing of both the protagonists and the thing itself, the myriad little touches and clues in the background, the tense power-dynamic subtext in all the dialogue; there's so much going on under the surface in that movie. I can totally respect preferring the original, but to say that all the movie has going for it is the special effects is objectively wrong.

@DylanFoster87

3 жыл бұрын

John Carpenter’s is a masterpiece.

@kyleplatz6295

3 жыл бұрын

100% agree.

@davidbanan.

3 жыл бұрын

Wait people think carpenters doesn't have subbtlety? Its quite subtle

@codywirth8190

26 күн бұрын

Thank you, '51 is great and all, but it's still a metric lightyear from '82 which has sparked endless debate and theories about how the plot unfolds. There's a reason no one thinks of '51 anymore,'82 "assimilated" all its best elements and improved on them with a story about trust and isolation instead of a vegetable Frankenstein wondering around not killing anyone. That has to be kinda lame even back then.

Originally, the 1951 monster was supposed to be shown having shape-shifting ability like in the original novella and 1982 movie, but the idea was scrapped due to insufficient technical props at that time

@xxx0ox0

4 жыл бұрын

Cool fact. I wonder if it was for the better we'll never know

@heavysystemsinc.

4 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think this decision made for a better movie. I can only imagine the schlock it'd be seen as today had it attempted such aspects. And I think it would have only detracted from the core strengths of the movie.

@KevinCarney91

4 жыл бұрын

I think that's a big factor in why a lot of people (myself included) prefer Carpenter's version to Hawks' version. The alien itself isn't all that interesting in Hawks' version. As Doctor Wolfula put it, it's basically Frankenstein's Monster without the pathos. On the other hand, the creature in Carpenter's version is an apocolyptic, Lovecraftian hellbeast that embodies paranoia and mistrust, which is what the story is all about.

@peterghoulferatu3555

4 жыл бұрын

@@KevinCarney91 Well put

@Iomeces

3 жыл бұрын

That's really too bad. They could have had most of the transformations happen offscreen. There are lots of tricks that they could have done to make up for technical limitations.

I always love listening to james talking about horror movies. He's single handedly responsible for me getting me into older horror movies with monster madness. Thanks for that james ya legend.

@PonystuckInc

4 жыл бұрын

Monster Madness doubled as my watch list for a while haha

@EvilForgemaster

4 жыл бұрын

James has done this for me too. He is the reason I became an old school horror freak.

@Boots43096

4 жыл бұрын

me too, I wouldn't be so hard into old movies without cinemassacre

So techically, James statement "It has overlapping dialogue, it's more natural" is a remake of Tom Savinis quote "There's overlapping dialogue, you hardly see that in movies today. It gives you a sense of realism..." xD

@Fak3Cake

4 жыл бұрын

Remake or a Ripoff? Nobody knows!!!

@jonryder7269

3 жыл бұрын

sigh, such a lack of originality these days xD

@mjf2891

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Blonde started with Orson Welles

@YggdrasilAudio

3 жыл бұрын

Uncut Gems must've blown his mind.

That’s why I always refer to the Carpenter version as “John Carpenter’s The Thing.”

@ryancox9281

4 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@lunaurum3515

3 жыл бұрын

I always refer to it as just The Thing, and call the 1951 movie "The Thing from Another World" mostly because it's easier for whoever I'm talking to

@John-el1ki

3 жыл бұрын

@@lunaurum3515 I do the exact same thing

A similar argument could be made how the remake of The Fly completely overshadowed the original.

@doctormid-nyte5483

4 жыл бұрын

I Hate to be that guy But I made an entire video on that subject-

@grimTales1

4 жыл бұрын

Not seen the 50's version of The Fly but the remake was very good.

@Lobocyfer

4 жыл бұрын

Same story with invasion of the body snatchers

@snizzysnazz82

4 жыл бұрын

You could say the same about the original Scarface compared to the Pacino remake too. Whoops should have watched the full video, James ends up mentioning it towards the end.

@sebastiankane5774

4 жыл бұрын

I haven't seen the original, shamefully, but I was introduced to it by finding out the screenplay was written by one of my favourite authors, James Clavell.

I actually prefer Carpenter's one, not only cause of the effects, but because of that sustained sense of paranoia it gives off. That said, I think the original is definitely an underrated classic. This video was awesome, James.

@ACARDtvMusic

4 жыл бұрын

Adam Naamee Azim Of course, as time went by in cinema, directors really tried to pull the audience in with feelings that the characters were also having. It only got better as cinema matured, but they were doing that in the beginning too as in To Kill A Mockingbird ☺️

@wesgraves1282

4 жыл бұрын

I absolutely agree with you the original is just something I hold dear to me from childhood with my dad

@MidKnighToker

4 жыл бұрын

agreed not to mention the 2002 is a prequel

@NeverBeNormal

4 жыл бұрын

Carpenter's my favorite too. That sense of paranoia is brilliantly highlighted by his soundtrack, something he does better than almost anyone ever.

@GSVRemix

4 жыл бұрын

ddtnbn Actually, the soundtrack in the Carpenter's version wasn't made by him, it was made by Ennio Morricone (most famous for many western movies) but as much I love Morricone, I think the soundtrack from the 1951 original is better. Those heavy brass stabs and the theremin are simply ideal for this style of movie, and nothing else works quite as well in my opinion.

I’m just watching the 1951 version. And realized the scene with them looking at the Geiger counter when the creature was approaching is just like the motion detectors scenes in aliens. LOL.

@getvnews1918

3 жыл бұрын

We just viewed it this night on "Svenguli" a syndicated scifi cable show.

@PaulScollon

3 жыл бұрын

Now try watching "Them!" and compare it to "Aliens" also. Aliens is a total remake of this movie.

You got results for the 1982 film when you looked up “The Thing” because the 1951 film is called “The Thing from Another World.” I looked up both and got results based on the exact title.

"I guess you could say, they are polar opposites" Wow. You can see James trying not to laugh his ass off. Props for keeping a straight face.

@Destroyah5000

4 жыл бұрын

Earlier he also said that he liked how the orignal took place in the ice snow, providing a great sense of ice-olation.

@JettBlast

4 жыл бұрын

Now that he is one, that was a dad joke...

@ourevilone

4 жыл бұрын

i like there was no cut there after he said it too

@alphalax7747

4 жыл бұрын

@@Destroyah5000 and right before that, he says the movie gives a chilling feeling

@yavivanov6650

4 жыл бұрын

That pun was intentional. He knew it sounded stupid, but fun at the same time, as all puns do.

I actually read the story "Who Goes There?" before I saw any of the movies. The lore goes that the author, who became legendary as editor of Astounding/ Analog, was never happy with the 1950s movie. The 1982 version did a lot more to capture the original idea, and also gave a more pessimistic take on human vs alien than Campbell usually allowed as author or editor.

@retro_jojo3159

4 жыл бұрын

@matthew martin no, that he preferred the 1980s one because of the pessimistic angle

@lo1bo2

4 жыл бұрын

@@retro_jojo3159 That's funny, since Campbell died in 1971.

@scottyboyca8162

4 жыл бұрын

lo1bo2 what?

@Nitrobotti

4 жыл бұрын

@@scottyboyca8162 @Retro_Jojo John W Campbell died in 1971 so he obviously didn't see Carpenter's version.

@justincoleman3805

4 жыл бұрын

The original comment doesn’t say the author preferred the second one. Only that it fit his style more.

I've seen the Carpenter version (definitely one of the greatest horror movies ever made), the 2011 prequel (substandard dialogue and slathering all that CG over perfectly good practical effects made me VERY MAD) and I've even read the original novella. But even though I have heard of the 1951 movie and knew that Carpenter's movie took inspiration from it, I've never seen it, and have never been able to find a copy. It's as if it never existed. But while I agree with you over the 1982 movie's relatively bland characterisations, I take issue with your remark that Carpenter's version had "no subtlety". It had subtleties, just not in the way Hawk's film presumably did. It keeps you guessing where the Thing is. You get the impression that the Thing is an evil mastermind, manipulating everyone from the shadows, using the crew's own paranoia and fear to divide and kill each other. Especially in that masterpiece ending, where you can't tell if Childs or MacReady are infected, if both of them are, or if none of them are. And unlike far too many monster movies today, the 1982 film actually doesn't show the monster very often, relying on the buildup of paranoia to drive the tension. So when you do see the monster, it's sudden, it's gory, and it never takes the same form twice, denying you any semblance of familiarity that would lessen its scare factor.

@nathanielphillips3592

3 жыл бұрын

I think the, well I wouldnt go as far as call them bland, but the more underdeveloped characters of the 1982 The Thing actually worked in the movies favor, as it kept it more unpredictable. In another movie with very developed characters, you could predict which character was going to live and which ones werent, but it's not like that in the 1982 The Thing. I may just be a huge fan of The 1982 Thing, but I feel as if typical shortcomings of any other movie actually work in this movies favor.

@Rykiz_Vidz

2 жыл бұрын

I wish i could like this comment twice. My thoughts exactly.

@Howlingburd19

2 жыл бұрын

This is EASILY my favorite horror movie!!!

@noahoost2305

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing i like about the 2011 remake is that the ending of the 2011 film is basically the beginning of the 1982 film

You didn't mention Ridley Scott said he lifted scenes from The Thing for the movie Alien. The entire tracking the Alien through the ship, "It should be right on top of you", is the exact same scene with the Giger Counter from The Thing.

@Sapsche

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a pun, looking at the subject matter, but it's Geiger counter ;)

@Tobingtons

3 жыл бұрын

Alien came before The Thing

@theylied1776

3 жыл бұрын

@@Tobingtons No, Ridley Scott was talking about the 1951 version of The Thing. The 1951 version of The Thing is also John Carpenter's favorite movie.

The 80s gave us a trio of amazing Science-Horror remakes of films from the 50s. The Thing, The Fly and The Blob.

@fka322

3 жыл бұрын

If you extend it to the late 70s, there's also Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

@proZach380

3 жыл бұрын

and unfortunately they'll likely be remade in the near future, if only to prevent the copyrights from going to the public domain...

@StarWolf_88

3 жыл бұрын

I saw those classics as a kid...time for a re vist.

@jimb.7523

3 жыл бұрын

@@proZach380 Remade....by *DISNEY!* DUN DUN DUNNNNNNN!

@reddhead2948

3 жыл бұрын

Yea and the originals were all better

I've always heard the original referred to as "the thing from another world"

@dieyng

4 жыл бұрын

Same here.

@KRAFTWERK2K6

4 жыл бұрын

The THING from another world -> John Carpenter's The THING -> The THING

@oaf-77

4 жыл бұрын

-> the thong

@psychonaut1829

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, ironically, the original changed its name to market off of success of the 80s version. Carpenter payed homage to the original but his movie had a different name.

@keenkingjames

4 жыл бұрын

This!

My husband's dad gifted me the Hawk's version of The Thing for Christmas a few years ago and its definitely an underappreciated classic. As is The Fly!!

My mom introduced me to The Thing when I was younger, but I seem to remember her being disappointed because she thought she rented the original, but ended up with the John Carpenter movie. Now, she really enjoyed it, but she wanted me to see the movie she grew up loving. It's great to see that someone from my generation is not only aware of the original, but appreciates it!

@casesoutherland4175

Жыл бұрын

I just watched the 1951 version and the 1982 remake/readaptation back-to-back. It's really hard to say which one is definitively better, because they're both great in their own ways!

If you work in the Amundsen-Scott South Pole research station, then it’s tradition to watch all three ‘Thing’ films in a row just as winter sets in.

@psychonaut1829

4 жыл бұрын

Then get paranoid about your co workers 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑

@5kehhn

4 жыл бұрын

Sweet dreams.

@bigidibeng

4 жыл бұрын

Oh no :D

@reversalmushroom

4 жыл бұрын

As far as I'm concerned, there are only 2 movies, Hawks and Carpenter.

@richmcgee434

4 жыл бұрын

Followed by compulsory blood tests and making sure the dogs are all accounted for.

more of these James, just you, a camera and an old movie to talk about...

@devilmaycryagency

4 жыл бұрын

fr man I love these types of videos!

@ItzJustang

4 жыл бұрын

I know right. Aren’t tony and Kieran obnoxious as hell.

@IGGIkisa98

4 жыл бұрын

I don't mind Tony and Kieran, but these are by far the best videos.

@lemfandango

4 жыл бұрын

I like him better with 3 huge guys

I'd disagree with James on that jumpscare part, carpenter's jumpscare didn't have the usual music followed by the high pitch sound effect when the monster popped out. It would happen almost like it was random and out of nowhere. It happened I wanna say three times in the film and then a usual jumpscare with music near the end when the dude got assimilated.

See, i understand your point with the whole "Thing remake removes original from history" point, I really do but if you google "the thing from another world" you do get the whole search history to do with the original. I don't believe it's been removed from history, sidelined for sure if you look for just The Thing.

@JakeFLM

3 жыл бұрын

james said that the 1951 version was still widely known as "The Thing" despite its full title of the thing from another world. so basically the 1951 version should still appear if it was still widely known. but sadly, it isnt.

Didn’t expect a review of my favorite horror movie

@user-od7fx9kt1i

4 жыл бұрын

agreed

@bigkmoviesandgames

4 жыл бұрын

The remake was better.

@tylerhackner9731

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I love both.

@smileitsjustagame2937

4 жыл бұрын

Same! Kurt Russell is a beast, and the effects scared the living hell out of me!

@bernardocarneiro1982

4 жыл бұрын

Gary King same. Not big on horro,still love The Thing

Really interesting points about the original, personally I'd have to disagree that Carpenter's lacks subtlety/psychelogical scares. The premise of a shapeshifting killer being amongst a closed-quarters group just offsets its often ambient atmosphere so well

"Watch the skies..." is one of the best closing lines of all time.

@kyleminator6084

3 жыл бұрын

I heard “Watch the skies” from Simon Pegg’s and Nick Frost’s “Paul” from the bar scene when there were two bumper stickers “watch the skies” or “Alien on board”

@kenzopo8125

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@sergiowinter5383

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the skies, traveler!

@rorschach7697

3 жыл бұрын

That quote became the UFO phenomena rule number one.... Words to live by, right?

@davids2254

3 жыл бұрын

Watch the skiis

Im in my late 20s and I actually haven't seen the Carpenter version, only the original, and I also think its a great piece in movie history. This movie like The Day the Earth stood still are genre defining classics in science fiction. For different reasons but together their pacing is one of the things that set the tone for good science fiction story telling. It didn't have to be about how insane the scifi was, its about the atmosphere, pacing, and writing that gave seriousness to the situation.

@DenverStarkey

3 жыл бұрын

i'm 41 now myself i saw the original The thing , when i was a kid about 8 years old and never knew about the remake either till about the time i was 15 , funny enough i'm amazed now how i didn't see the 82 one sooner seeing as how i was only 3 when it came out.

@psychobillynumbnuts1

3 жыл бұрын

I seen the 82 version last week. It was alright

The 2011 version wasn’t really a remake as much as it was a prequel. It is confusing to me why they would give it the same title; but it is made clear at the end of the movie where they are chasing the dog in the helicopter that the 2011 version ends where the 1983 version begins.

@peowulf

4 жыл бұрын

I think being a prequel was supposed to be a twist ending or something. It wasn't very good either way.

@MIKEandHisBASS7468

4 жыл бұрын

I actually enjoyed the prequel and think it links with the 82 version well.

@SethMcFartlane

4 жыл бұрын

30 years ago, four scientists saved New York.

@enthnd03

4 жыл бұрын

It's more a premake

@redshift912

4 жыл бұрын

I was fine with imagining what happened

I have to disagree in some aspects, the Carpenter version is also very tense and creepy, that feeling of insecurity, not knowing who the creature is among your own team mates is just terrifying. The original was a separate creature and people more or less had some kind of idea how to contain it, but the Carpenter version, practically tells you from the start there is no containment method for it, and that just blows your imagination away.

@steveward6099

4 жыл бұрын

Also the 'Keep watching the skys' aspect is played out far more scarily in Carpenter's movie by having the computer simulation tell Blair how quickly the infection would take over the worlds population and the ambiguous ending.

Recently watched the original The Fly and The Thing on a double bill. I do love 50s Sci Fi. But I really feel you've downplayed Carpenter's film a little. I don't find the characters flat at all, a little burnt out but not flat. I also find plenty of natural humour in the 1982 film, some of the bickering is hysterical because it's so real and petty or just plain cold. Music, c'mon we have Ennio Morrocone emulating Carpenter's feel (So well some people think Carpenter did the music.) I remember that music from the beginning used to run chills down my spine. Over all I just love the cosmic horror of the 80's movie, it feels somewhat Lovecraftian at times due to it coming from pulp writer John Campbell. And that's kind of what is important, the novella was about a shape shifting 'Thing' that could be anyone and Hawk's movie is about a regenerating vegetable man.

@LJMiho

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

James: Imagine you favorite movie gets remade and no one talks about the original Me:...... Dude I'm a Toho monster fan that is my whole life Also a Dragonball fan (not Z)

@edwarddore7617

4 жыл бұрын

I definitely understand where you are coming from with Toho, but the only Dragon Ball I enjoy is Z, but then again I'm not the biggest Anime fan so, anything that is a bit or a full on parody on anime amuses me, One Punch Man is epic

@KdosdaHegen

4 жыл бұрын

I love Dragon Ball much more than Dragon Ball Z too.

@ZigealFaust

3 жыл бұрын

@@edwarddore7617 Excel Saga is the best parody anime ever. I implore you to give it a go.

@Super_Suchi

3 жыл бұрын

Well Z is just a continuation of Dragon Ball, not a reboot. The original manga has both Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z covered.

The 2011 “The Thing” is not a remake. It’s a prequel.

@graytoby1

4 жыл бұрын

It's a bag of shite

@psychonaut1829

4 жыл бұрын

And under rated. I would have seen it in the theater if they hadnt marketed it as a remake.

@StarryStarryNocturne

4 жыл бұрын

I still haven't seen the remake-prequel. The thing (no pun intended honest) that keeps me from giving it a chance is the idea - heavily promoted by fans of it - that the Thing is so uncharacteristically aggressive and recklessly exposes itself left and right in the remake-prequel because it's not used to hunting humans and hasn't learned to be more careful, subversive and stealthy in it's approach. The Thing arrived on Earth because it overtook a ship of super-advanced interstellar explorers that happened to accidentally collect it (because they liked collecting unique species from the various worlds they visited) - so it had by that point assimilated everything from primitive beasts to complex, highly evolved and intelligent creatures and yet, it still hadn't learned that caution and stealth were the best approach for survival and predation? Even primitive predatory animals on Earth know this as instinct. It just doesn't make sense.

@psychonaut1829

4 жыл бұрын

@@StarryStarryNocturne What do you mean, all it needs to do is get out of the arctic and it will have the whole world in weeks. It probably knows that the ice caps can melt, and time doesnt matter to it. The thing won in the end.

@reotem

4 жыл бұрын

And that is the problem. We already knew what happened at the Norwegian base. We didn't need a crappy knock off cgi fest to show us.

John Carpenter’s “The Thing“ might have the best practical effects ever. That’s why it’s so tough to ignore I believe. It still holds up in today’s market because CGI has taken front seat for decades now. Even when practical would be more appealing to see we are still given CGI. So Carpenter’s version is almost the focal point of the argument between practical and CGI effects. If you’re in favor of the former, Carpenter’s “The Thing” is the perfect example of practical effects done extraordinarily well. The juxtaposition is made even greater with the latest version released. Many felt, myself included, the CGI was substandard and Carpenter’s out shined it decades earlier.

@megaton_a

4 жыл бұрын

The weird thing is that the "latest" version originally embraced practical effects, then they decided CG was the way to go... and they ruined everything.

@Dragonfury3000

4 жыл бұрын

The thing 82 is quite memorable. The original Thing i admit i still haven't watched. Old movies can be pretty good.

@swampshack1018

4 жыл бұрын

I hate cgi, practical effects is the way to go

@CyberDragon10K

4 жыл бұрын

@@megaton_a "They" being the stupid studio executives/suits. Wasted Studio ADI's time, effort and money asking them to do the practical effects only to completely go over them with CGI in the end...

@SuperPhunThyme9

4 жыл бұрын

People were starting to get a little practical-crazy recently.... ...to the point where they don't even care what actually looks more real...as long as there's no CGI involved....which is just as silly.

The Carpenter Version is the more Book accurate Version of the story. Where as The Thing from Another World, kinda throws its own twist on the tale.

Thank you, James. This movie does not get anywhere the love it deserves. My mom showed me this as a child and it is still the stick I measure movies like this against.

The 2011 movie isn't even a remake, its a prequel to the carpenter version.

@craigt1010

4 жыл бұрын

Came here to say this. Both movies are great.

@tjohnson6940

4 жыл бұрын

The 2011 prequel is an abomination.

@hopelessent.1700

4 жыл бұрын

Craig T the prequel dumbed down the monster and intrigue. Prequel only used what we saw in the 82 film by exploring the facility which has no reason to.

@AngerOfTheLand

4 жыл бұрын

2011 movie goes so well with the orig... dunno how people can bash it so hard. I cant watch one without the other.

@khalnetherfields7263

4 жыл бұрын

@@hopelessent.1700 a bit of a wasted opportunity, sure, and shame about what they did with the monster in the end but its still a good movie, come on now

I think people like the carpenter version because of the mystery added to the movie on figuring out who’s who. It became a cult classic later on because of the analysis of the movie, how it was a lot deeper than what we actually take for what it is.

@lindenstromberg6859

4 жыл бұрын

Also, the final scene of the Thing Carpenter is one of the great mysteries. Which one of them is the thing? Are either of them the thing?

@peachycreations8787

3 жыл бұрын

@@lindenstromberg6859 simple answer you can see Kurt Russell's breath at the end but you can't see the other guys breath in the cold air hmmmm food for thought right there. Brilliant film too.

@RavensEagle

3 жыл бұрын

@@peachycreations8787 already debunked where producer came out to say it's still a mystery nobody knows.

@butters742

3 жыл бұрын

@@peachycreations8787 I thought it was cause Childs drinking Macready's hand made Petrol molotov cocktail's, that you can even see earlier in the movie before he bombs the thing. The chuckle from Macready after childs drinks it. Childs is the thing alright.

@wes8723

3 жыл бұрын

@@butters742 Nah.. The Thing videogame is canon and in that game Childs is frozen to death - he wasn't the thing

Love both Hawks and Carpenter versions. Hawks version is on the top of my “snowed in” movie list.

@salemslotandmore8278

Жыл бұрын

One of my 'snowed in" Movies is "Snowbeast" (1977)

"The characters are kind of flat" Heartily disagree. Also if you're going to make such a bold negative claim about the Carpenter version, please ELABORATE. "The characters are kind of flat" deeply contradicts your other statement "I understand why people like the Carpenter version better". Apparently you don't understand if you think it's only liked because of the "special effects"

@KRhetor

4 жыл бұрын

No, the onus is on you to explain why they aren't flat. And they ARE flat, unremarkable stereotypes, not helped by the fact that everyone in the cast except Wilford Brimley follows Russell's lead in sleepwalking through their part...with the exception of David Clennon, who is just plain awful and irritating.

@steveward6099

4 жыл бұрын

Don't find them flat. They're burnt out, isolated but still have their quirks. It'd be very weird if they were all fast talking transatlantic sterotypes cracking off against each other.

@meyes5671

4 жыл бұрын

@@KRhetor Did you even watch the same movie we did? Damn near every character was intelligent and convincing.

@bitfreakazoid

3 жыл бұрын

Those aren't contradictions, they don't even have anything to do with each other. Nor does he state it's only liked because of the special effects.

@SuperPeterok

3 жыл бұрын

How dare you. Kurt Russell is amazing even in movies like Captain Ron and Overboard.

The story "Who Goes There" was written by John Campbell, a legendary name from the Golden Age if Science Fiction.

@Flayne009

4 жыл бұрын

And they recently released an extended edition (45 more pages). Search for "Frozen Hell" if you're interested.

@CyborgWolf

4 жыл бұрын

@@Flayne009 And it's fantastic. I was on the kickstarter & i'm so happy

@kaigen999

4 жыл бұрын

@@Flayne009 I need to read this. They are talking about making that a movie now. I hope its fantastic. I am so very hyped.

@JohnDiabol

4 жыл бұрын

It was also inspired by "At the mountains of madness" by Lovecraft, very similar setting.

@christiankettlewell

4 жыл бұрын

Follow Your Bliss, John Campbell?

John Carpenter's The Thing is my favorite horror film of all time. I've still never seen the origin one. I knew it was a remake though. It's why I always call it 'John Carpenter's The Thing'.

@TheMightyWumbo

4 жыл бұрын

Emperor Megas same

@bigkmoviesandgames

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spottedfeather yes it is.

@SpedeVesku

4 жыл бұрын

@@bigkmoviesandgames Eh, it's more of a more faithful adaptation of the original novella.

@jacobreeves3110

4 жыл бұрын

Check it out. I'm 28 and I really enjoyed it. You can find it in online pretty easy.

@eyeconqueror1185

4 жыл бұрын

It's good.

by the way how about The Fly? We got orginal, remake and sequel to remake

@GasmaskAvenger

4 жыл бұрын

Technically the original, a direct sequel, a weird British produced 2nd sequel no one remembers (but is actually super underrated), the remake, a sequel to the remake and...get this...an opera.

@richmcgee434

4 жыл бұрын

@@GasmaskAvenger All true...but still a good subject for a video. Or several.

"The Thing (2011) was a remake of a remake" Uh.. no. The Thing (2011) was a prequel to a remake of an original.

@LOCKEYJ

4 жыл бұрын

A prequel with identical plot

@dacsus

3 жыл бұрын

@@LOCKEYJ Nah, it was well written - and the viewer finally learns what happened at that Norwegian station. It's sad that practical FX have been replaced with CGI (I'm not against CGI, only if they are done in a hurry, it's just obvious).

@TheDRODOR

3 жыл бұрын

@@dacsus we didn't need to learn

@dacsus

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheDRODOR dude, your opinion is not everyone's opinion...

@TheDRODOR

3 жыл бұрын

@@dacsus i'm just saying, the original stands very well on its own, it didn't need any expansion

"I guess you could say... they're polar opposites." He really is a father, how amazing.

@BlokeOzzie

4 жыл бұрын

I love how he talks about the overlapping dialogue and how there's no pause in the original The Thing to let jokes sink in, instead they are underplayed by keeping the dialogue flowing. And then he pauses... for an uncomfortably long time... to let his joke sink in. Well played. Well played.

It’s ironic that halfway through this video is an ad for a game called “Destroy all Humans.”

@lucasbiermann257

4 жыл бұрын

which one?

@synthnation9857

4 жыл бұрын

@@lucasbiermann257 the remake

@2hotnips

4 жыл бұрын

I got the same ad, too.

@JoshLeitzel

4 жыл бұрын

No, it’s fitting

@FelixMangrove

4 жыл бұрын

I got Wendy breakfast ad.

I actually never knew about the oldest one. John Carpenter's is one of my favorite movies. It's like a whodunnit murder mystery, but stranded in Antarctica with shape-shifting aliens. Awesome.

One of my favorites of the classic horror sci-fi genre. Actually had a treat about a year ago what I went to the Detroit Institute of Arts one day and during that summer they were doing showings of movies and the theater that was made in the late twenties that was connected to the DIA in the movie that they were showing that day was the thing from another world. Is an amazing experience watching an old movie in an old theater with a handful of other classic film fans. Something about that experience will stick with me for a long time.

You know whats really sad? what they did to the 2011 movie, the movie was supposed to have 100% practical effects but the studio made them covert all the practical effects with CGI, there is footage of some of it on youtube and it looks GREAT!, seriously, the movie would have been soooo much better.

@ryantimony6669

4 жыл бұрын

Its a travesty. Have you seen Harbinger Down?

@MegaCrocosaurus92

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Damn shame they won't even release an official version with the practicals and original ending.

@Th3BigBoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@ryantimony6669 Harbinger Down is laughable.

@schlumbl84

4 жыл бұрын

@@Th3BigBoy I agree. When I heard that most of the practical effect stuff was used for it, I watched it rightaway - boy, what a letdown.

@Shorty_Hutch

4 жыл бұрын

The head crab scene shocked me when I watched it because it was so well done and holds up better than most, if not all, modern films

My favorite thing about Carpenter's Thing isn't the special fx, it's the blood test scene. And Morricone's music, I was very surprised to hear it in Hateful Eight but I was pleased that I recognized it haha. One track is also used in my favorite Japanese horror movie Noroi (The Curse).

That pyro stunt was and still is amazing

My father showed me the original when I was a kid back in the 90’s. The worst part was how he would explain everything in such a way I was always scared that the Thing could be around the next corner. The hand suddenly moving on it’s own still gives me chills.

The Thing (2011) it's not a remake, it's a prequel to Carpenter's The Thing (1982).

@Jordan3DS

4 жыл бұрын

If it's a prequel, then why would they give it the same name? Not that I'm discrediting your post, I just find it baffling that a studio would create a film as a prequel to another film, but then give it the exact same title. I know that it's all because of marketing, but it comes off as a really illogical and nonsensical decision that only creates more confusion as time goes on.

@160sharp

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan3D I totally agree I had the same thoughts, it’s an interesting story it tells, it pretty much shows what happened to the one camp the crew comes across in the original that was in flames

@MrAllGamesAllDay

4 жыл бұрын

Jordan3D Have you seen it? Regardless of the name, it takes place right before the 1982 movie so how could it be a remake...

@ethanthomas8518

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan3DS I don't understand why, you know The New halloween? For example, it is just called Halloween so I need to say Halloween (1979) and Halloween (2018). But I recommend you watch both The Thing 1982 and 2011 they até Very good, The Carpenter's version is superior but The prequel it's Very Fun to watch.

@thealphaincel1619

4 жыл бұрын

@@ethanthomas8518 The Prequel was shit.

"movies are different from books" Ahh, yes. *nods intellectually*

@KRAFTWERK2K6

4 жыл бұрын

I never thought it was impossible to put days and weeks worth of text into 2 hour movies :O I'm shocked. SHOCKED. Well not that shocked.

@TheLiveMusicGroup

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@gweds

4 жыл бұрын

Sucks on pipe

@SA77888

4 жыл бұрын

''nods intellectually'' lol

I've watched the 1950's "The Thing" hundreds of time's. Its one of my all time favorite films. John Carpenter's "The Thing" is definitely a classic though. I would easily recommend both for various reasons already stated by James.

I feel like more people know this movie as “The Thing From Another World” not “The Thing”

@classicgunstoday1972

3 жыл бұрын

My dad saw the original in 1951 in theaters. He and his generation have always called it: “The Thing”. “Hey you want to watch, The Thing?” I’ve been calling it that since I saw it growing up in the 80s and call the Carpenter version “the remake”. Even Stranger Things on Netflix they refer to both as “The Thing”. The classic or the new version. The original or the remake.

Standalone content from James Rolfe is so good that I almost wish that the quarantine never ends. 👌😅

@hikiniki8610

4 жыл бұрын

@Smattless Stay golden👌

@eyeconqueror1185

4 жыл бұрын

@Smattless you ever heard of jokes?

This is exactly how I feel about the 1941 Wolfman not getting enough recognition as the 2010 Wolfman.

The original 50’s ‘Thing’ I saw as a small child and it has always been one of my favourite films - top 20 all time for me Like you said, it’s a classic! Watching the original on television in the 1970’s as a preteen - it scared the heck out of me!! The visuals, the music and dialogue - it’s an amazing film in every way One thing you didn’t mention that I think is really interesting about this film - the confidence of these ‘Greatest Generation’ characters - after defeating global fascism - facing this alien invader - their all very competent in their jobs and there’s a vibe the characters all give off the entire film that they will prevail against this unknown invader - like they did against fascism It’s very different from the early 80’s vibe the characters from the Carpenter film give off of paranoia and being divided - it fit that 1970’s post Watergate world of mistrust and division Growing up in the 70’s - I just find that 50’s confidence and gumption to be really appealing

I'm surprised you haven't reviewed The Invisible Man 2020. Seeing as how you love the universe monsters.

@InuYugiHakusho

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's on James's "To Do" list.

@wstine79

4 жыл бұрын

Hopefully for Monster Madness 2020.

@Dragonfury3000

4 жыл бұрын

he can also do the mummy movies

@jack_meoff69

4 жыл бұрын

@Brandon Hibbard its on VOD

@adiahaalexander9359

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dragonfury3000 I thought he already did, didn't he?

James, Can you do an in depth review of "THEM!" I can't seem to find one online. I feel you could do it justice.

@Kullen64

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve felt the same way for a long time. Such a good movie and James is perfect for it.

@spyderc85

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. This would be epic

@MegaCrocosaurus92

4 жыл бұрын

BRO I would be able to die happy if he did that movie!

@shallendor

4 жыл бұрын

THEM is one of those movies i love to watch and has such a distinct sound to it!

@bradleyjohnson1702

4 жыл бұрын

100% love "THEM!', pretty sure sombody watched that one before writing "Aliens", there are a lot of plot similarities

Yesterday me and some friends played the new The Thing - The board game based mostly on the 1982 movie but we all knew the 1951 movie as our favorite. Great video!

The 1951 version of The thing was always, and still is my favorite. It was the version i grew up watching on late night horror shows, and started a fifty year love of classic sci fi and horror. I also loved the 1982 John Carpenter version. Although I never really looked at it as a remake, but more as a pseudo sequel to the 1951 movie, so never really found myself comparing the two as remakes of the same movie. Then the 2011 prequel movie came out, and looking back i see the john Carpenter version was a sequel to a movie that hadn't even been made yet. I've watched the 2011 movie then the 1984 movie back to back and it works amazingly well for having a 27 year gap between them as one long and fairly seamless experience . Still, the 1951 Howard Hawks version is a true classic in every sense of the word that paved the way for a lot of films to come. If you haven't seen it, i wholeheartedly recommend giving it a try.

I always love seeing you talk about something this passionately.

The Thing by John Carpenter is my favorite movie and horror movie

I love straight forward/ sarcastic or bizarre humor and the "what was that" "it sounded like a window" amazing french kiss

I really like the Hawkes film, but Carpenter has this wonderful ambiguous ending, that always leaves you guessing what happens when the ending titles cut in "Why don't we just... wait here for a little while... see what happens?"

I saw the title and wondered “is he talking about the Carpenter version or the ORIGINAL”

@epicgames2581

4 жыл бұрын

1:12

@CyberDragon10K

4 жыл бұрын

@Adam Apocalypse I'm mildly ashamed that didn't click until he threw out the obvious "Oh! You thought I meant the John Carpenter one!?" line, for as long as I've been subbed to James and for as much as he's proven his chops as a film buff over the decades.

"Watch the skies, traveler." -Guard, Skyrim

@jordanjuarez8102

4 жыл бұрын

I used to watch the skies, until I took an arrow to the knee.

@ZachBlackforest

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordanjuarez8102 Congratulations!

The Thing 50s even got a higher score on rotten tomatoes, than the 80s one.

Lovecraft was even earlier than that. "Who goes there?" was inspired by "At the mountains of Madness"

You know, 1982 "The Thing" was just made in different time, and if i was honest, i like 1982 version because they used creativity with the virus alien comes with.

'Keep watching the skeeeees.................umm.....skies' - That teenager from the Simpsons where Homer sees the alien in the woods

@ManBearCowGM

3 жыл бұрын

"My work here is done."

Im 35 and I love old movies. I feel like I was born in the wrong decade. But I'm a 90s kid through and through. You and I would get along. Old movies give a feeling of happiness. Nostalgia if you will. Your videos and insight are awesome James. Keep it up. Thanks.

1:48 I can thank my father for my good taste in classic movies. I personally enjoy the minimalistic approach of the original thing. It is probably my favorite “horror” movie because it doesn’t rely on cheap scares. It was a tense watch when I was eight years old and I still hold great reverence for it today.

The 2011 thing is technically a prequel

@romerolemstra8747

4 жыл бұрын

Yep

@ULTRAWIDE.

4 жыл бұрын

Not technically, it is.

@seanseanston

4 жыл бұрын

@@ULTRAWIDE. Yes, though it's kind of interesting/cool that in overall storyline terms it's a direct prequel, but acts somewhat as a remake in terms of the general plot and mood etc. seeing as basically the exact same events unfold in both movies.

@Astrotrain78

4 жыл бұрын

The 2011 The Thing is a Remake. They decived people telling them that it was a prequel.

@JoltsD

4 жыл бұрын

A premake?

Let's also give it up for James Arness playing "The Thing" in the original. Seeing so much Gunsmoke I couldn't imagine Matt Dillon being an alien in a horror movie. But he killed it.

When anything disappears from history I become sad. Because when we forget our history we just start repeating it.

@SpuddyWesker

3 жыл бұрын

so repeating a great film is a bad thing?

Scarface (1932) itself is a re-make of a silent film called Underworld (1928) directed by Joseph von Sternberg

I'm an '80s kid, but the '50s have always been my favorite decade for sci-fi. Seeing this film at a young age - along with This Island Earth, Forbidden Planet, War of the Worlds, and The Fly - had a lot to do with that, as did '80s tribute movies like Explorers and the remake of Invaders From Mars. I still make it a point to go back and watch a lot of those old films as often as I can. Long live the classics!

The 2011 movie wasn’t a remake, it was a prequel.

@313Games

4 жыл бұрын

Snap, I was going to point out it was a prequel too.

@pizzatime7433

4 жыл бұрын

You spelled terrible prequel wrong

@shuruff904

4 жыл бұрын

But with modern technology..... Hmmmm

@nukecorruption

4 жыл бұрын

I would've liked that movie more if they did it with practical effects like they were gonna originally, at least I think they were gonna

@HansDampf1911

4 жыл бұрын

@@nukecorruption The sad thing is that most of the scenes WERE filmed with practical effects...but they decided to go full CGI later. Which was the worst move any The Thing fan ever could´ve imagined.

Just want to thank you guys for continuing to produce quality content during the quarantine. It's great to have something to keep the mind occupied. 👏

I'm so glad you mentioned In Search of Tomorrow. I had no idea that it existed, but now have it on my watchlist for this weekend.

This is a great review. Honestly, the John Carpenter version is so iconic to me that I had never really though much about the original. Come to think of it, I haven't actually seen the original. I'm definitely going to watch it now. Thanks James!

@steveward6099

4 жыл бұрын

Watch it with the original Fly. There you have two examples of equally great sci fi movies.

The Thing from another world was my dad's favorite movie. We watched it many times together. John Carpenter's The Thing was one of my favorite horror movies and we watched it together as well. Miss that guy, RIP dad.

@graciegj63

4 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry for your loss. At least you have lots of happy memories of him until you get to see him again.

@heavysystemsinc.

4 жыл бұрын

Me and my dad loved watching the '82 version together. He liked the original, too, but I personally didn't see it until well after I'd seen the '82 original and I sought it out on my own.

@wareforcoin5780

4 жыл бұрын

RIP dad, you sounded like a real cool dude

Gotta love how happy and excited James looks hearing Tom Savini praise the original.

I was introduced to the original in a Sci-Fi class. We actually watched it one day, then the 1982 version the next day. I'm really glad that it was the shown to me in that order. Because, like you said, it's almost like the original got erased....from existence...

"That's when you school em" . Classic.

@dzeroprime1500

4 жыл бұрын

It's like "Parry this you filthy casual".

All of John Carpenter's movies have so many alternative theories to the meanings of the movies and why scenes were shot the way they were.

@difficultbastard

4 жыл бұрын

I've already mentioned elsewhere, but their are so many little details, such as the bllod cabinet mystery, and the clothing and coat hints.

@KRhetor

4 жыл бұрын

It's less intentional and more due to Carpenter's sloppiness as a director and lack of attention to detail.

@poika22

4 жыл бұрын

@@KRhetor Well if you consider not spoonfeeding the audience and hammering every point home a dozen times so that even the dumbest popcorn munching Chinese teenager will understand what's going to be sloppy then yes, Carpenter is a sloppy director.

@xxx0ox0

4 жыл бұрын

@@poika22 tell em. I like to have open ended movies not everything needs to be plain as day

dude, you saved it. my favourite guitar pedal is my “thing from another world” with the og poster as the art. thanks to you for introducing me to

I love these sitdown reviews done by (just) you! Keep it up! :)

I missed this kind of review of James esp. just him doing a Monster Madness video.

The 2010’s The Thing isn’t a remake. It’s a prequel to John Carpenter’s The Thing.

@darkwoods1954

4 жыл бұрын

Where exactly the same things happen in the same order. I call it a premake. A remake marketed as a prequel with a few quick details thrown in so they can claim it's a prequel but still not have to actually come up with an original story.

@Kullen64

4 жыл бұрын

Dark Woods I’m not defending the movie or being a smart ass to James. Was just pointing out that it’s a prequel.

@Usernamesdontmatter1

4 жыл бұрын

Technically wouldnt that make it a remake of the original?

@EasyCure0

4 жыл бұрын

@@darkwoods1954 because the team making it refused to do a straight 1:1 remake, and thought a prequel would be the best route, but also had been little wiggle room to work with. How would YOU make a prequel, and remember you MUST include the burned down Swedish base, the ice block, the axe in the wall, and the body with the slit throat, you know, all that iconic stuff in Carpenter's thing that made us (and Kurt Russel's character) think "wtf happened here?"

@handsomebrick

4 жыл бұрын

It's a soft reboot, but it also pointlessly retreads the plot of the 1982 one, which is why some people call it a remake. I guess it could be called a "soft remake" then, sort of like The Force Awakens, which did the same trick. (Putting "prequel" in the name is pointless since a prequel is just a sequel that goes backwards in time, it shouldn't get a special name for that.)

You have no idea how happy it makes me to see that you're still doing your thing, and that you have 3 mil subs

James, you always manage to suck me into whatever you’re talking about. Even if it’s not something important to me personally, your passion just pulls me in and makes me interested in it anyway