The Ten-Minute Man | Why Leonard Shelby is a Master Manipulator
(Reupload for copyright) Leonard Shelby has always been Nolan's most fascinating character to me. This video dives a bit deeper into the implications of life without short-term memory. If you like it, feel free to subscribe.
"Memento Mori", written by Jonathan Nolan
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A horrific as Leonard's situation is, if you want to experience even deeper existential horror, look into the case of Clive Wearing. Mr. Wearing developed encephalitis in 1985, and it destroyed not only his ability to make new memories, but it also erased most of his existing memories. He knows who his wife is, but doesn't remember their wedding day. He recognizes his children, but doesn't remember their births. He can play the piano beautifully, but insists he's never heard a note before. He's utterly alone, his whole consciousness consisting of the last thirty seconds at most. He doesn't know where he is, why he's there, or anything that's ever happened to him. It's the profoundest kind of loneliness I know of. He doesn't even trust his own handwriting.
@TrouvatkiDePercusion
Ай бұрын
I am definitely gonna check this out. Thank you!!
@SparePencils
Ай бұрын
The pain is palpable. How horrible.
@Icthyologist
Ай бұрын
I am awake.
@CALIBA88
Ай бұрын
sounds very comforting. the moments i can remembere are those few that hurt not so bad that i allready pushed them away but so many small memorys, like i am relatet to who or such banalitys allways felt like brainclutter to me. i am quite positiv i am able to manage a state thats like a restart every 24 hour and i would be way more healthy and happy. not thinking about traumatic things that keep me catched for 10 hours for reading some post-ots ten minutes daily.
@pente12
Ай бұрын
@@CALIBA88Clive Wearing’s short term memory is approximately 7 seconds long, not 24 hours. Would you want a “mind reset” ten thousand times every day?
Memento will forever be Christopher Nolan's greatest masterpiece, imo. Really brilliant analysis video.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Agreed. Thanks for watching!
@turnerburner922
2 ай бұрын
I think The Prestige is better
@juangalton999
Ай бұрын
Agreed. Sadly his movies have really gone down qualitatively as the fame went to his head.
@jekw23
Ай бұрын
Agree. This then Prestige and Insomnia. All gone downhill since Inception.
@trancendental5373
28 күн бұрын
lol you guys are insane, he's the most consistently brilliant director of our day. Batman is the mythical hero of our time, cry more.
“I like to remember things my own way. How I remembered them, not necessarily the way they happened.”
Excellent breakdown of the movie! The first time I watched Memento I enjoyed it a lot but the way you broke down the smaller details really brought the movie to life for me. I especialy appreciated the part where you referenced part of the short story saying, "For a few minutes everyday, a man becomes a genius filled with clarity and insight but eventually you have to hand down the controls to the other parts of you." We all have different versions of ourselves with different goals, purposes, and lifestyles depending on the circumstances we are going through. Like you mentioned at the end, we feel as though our different subjective perspectives on life are what we should find our purpose but in reality our perspective along with everyone around us is everchanging making it unreliable. That is why it is essential for us to seek objectivity in our lives so that we may be fully satisfied by a purpose that isnt simply a portrayal of our own selfish desires.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Very well said. Love hearing this feedback.
@patrickwheeler5701
2 ай бұрын
did you find the egg?
I’ve been on a binge read and listening about Narcissism, one of the aspects mentioned is the person has difficulty in empathizing with their past self. The memory is there, but the shame and consequence is evaded. Their slate is cleaned over and over again, altering their perception of reality to flee the pain of what they’ve done. They manipulate their own reality and this made me think of that.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
That is very interesting.
@ContactsNfilters
16 күн бұрын
Yes! It's absolutely rooted in a deep shame. I love Brené Brown's research into how that effects all of us. From her book 'Daring Greatly' "when I look at narcissism through the vulnerability lens, I see the shame-based fear of being ordinary. I see the fear of never feeling... extraordinary enough to be noticed, to be lovable, to belong, or to cultivate a sense of purpose."
Great video, sir. Teddy's death never felt so tragic, the fact it seemed like such a pragmatic thing for Leonard to do at the time is a pretty damning commentary on insurance adjusters' serial-killer like morality
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate the comment. That's a great observation.
@rottensquid
2 күн бұрын
Except that Teddy was feeding Leonard's self-destruction from day one. As the only one who really understood him, Teddy could have helped Leonard let go. But he wanted someone he could manipulate. Teddy is Iago to Leonard's Othello, sabotaging him. Without Teddy stringing him along with new evidence, new targets, new manipulations, Leonard may finally be able to construct a half-truth that allows him to let go.
I dont understand why this channel isnt watched by more people. Your content is amezing brotha
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Much appreciated.
I came across Memento by chance. There was a collection of dvds with no cases all in 1 cd/dvd holder. So glad i watched it, absolute brilliant movie.
@zehrazahoor7855
12 күн бұрын
Accidentally coming across a great piece of media creates such a strong experience for me that it can rival childhood memories
@musicman2047
7 күн бұрын
I had the dvd, great film, you can watch it in reverse too, nice feature.
Well this time I will watch complete before it is deleted again
@sder
2 ай бұрын
KZread is being a pain on this one for some reason.
@aHedgerowFrog
2 ай бұрын
@@sder 3rd time's the charm, heh
@richardromanashton
2 ай бұрын
Ironic that this video is the one that keeps getting erased…
First time i watched memento even after finishing the movie i thought teddy was the killer, 2nd time i watched with my brother holy shit i understand the twist and a lot more things. This was Christopher Nolan's masterpiece. Now this film is in my top 10 fav film. Great video, you got a new subscriber
@sder
2 ай бұрын
The first rewatch for this movie went crazyyy. Thanks for the sub 🤝
@freedompretzel
2 ай бұрын
same for me, the second watch really made me understand a lot I was missing
@johndcoffee632
10 күн бұрын
I mean Teddy killed Jimmy for the money, he just used Leonard as a weapon to keep his hands clean
@CineHazique
10 күн бұрын
@@johndcoffee632 yeah and there is one more twist about leonard if you know you know
Unfortunately, Shutter Island can actually be viewed from Teddy's perspective as well. There are many clues that point to him being manipulated into thinking he is Andrew. In fact, there are reasons to believe he has been drugged since the beginning on the ship. The brilliance of the story is: starting out with a Marshall, convincing him and the audience that he's crazy, and still providing enough clues that he's not.
@MrJerichoPumpkin
2 ай бұрын
yeah, it's actually terrifying that Shutter Island could be the greatest gaslighting ever told
@DarranKern
2 ай бұрын
Shutter Island is a lot less cool of a movie when you guess the (EXTREMELY OBVIOUS) twist ten minutes into the film
@crunchbite005
Ай бұрын
@@DarranKern The hyperbole is strong in you.
@DarranKern
Ай бұрын
@@crunchbite005 nope, Im far from the only person who guessed it immediately. When you have Fight Club-esque, Tyler Durden hints in the first ten minutes of your film, and Shutter Island is far from the first film to use this trope (and not the first to blatantly wink at the audience that hallucinatory, unreliable narrator things are going on,) once you correctly guess the twist, the film is two entire hours of winking and hinting and whispering something you already know. Its not even remotely subtle
@crunchbite005
Ай бұрын
@@DarranKern I meant (EXTREMELY OBVIOUS) is a bit much. It took me a few watches to really piece it together. But it doesn't really matter. It's still fun to experience even if you know the twist. And I still enjoy other people's theories and excitement.
Lenny learned to trust his handwriting. he writes everything in capital letters. he wrote "do not trust her" in cursive.. because it was not true. "Remember Sammy Jenkis" is also written in cursive
I initially found Leonard Shelby to be sympathetic when viewing Memento for the first time. In hindsight, after multiple viewings, I have clarity regarding how dark and dangerous his character is. He's an executioner who shows zero signs of slowing down. Note that he executed his wife as well as numerous others both referenced specifically and suggested in the film. Memento is one of the best films I've ever seen and is in the conversation for the best. It's elite.
Teddy was the best character. Its easier and more comfortable to trust anyone else than the one who helps you.
Extraordinary essay and analysis. I am currently working on an essay/retrospective analysis on this film. I was very intrigued by your arguments about Leonard's 'condition,' primarily the main argument regarding his subjectivity versus objectivity. The comparison of Leonard's existence to the center of a clock, as the driver of the hands, around which time passes, is very clever. There is a lot to unpack here. I see Leonard living a fugue-like state where he vacillates between what he knows about himself (pre-incident) and his current reality (being a serial killer) however futile and fragmented an existence it is. Leonard's hell is the people who surround him and keep him going on this perpetual quest to find John G. I agree with your point, though, about Leonard not being able to face himself when confronted with the objective truth about his current life as a killer; subsequently choosing to find another man to hunt and kill. I would only point out that the choice is still influenced by an untrustworthy source in "Teddy." Teddy tells Leonard that all this treacherous game spirals on because Leonard chooses to lie to himself about what he has become. Although it is a plausible assertion, I am skeptical of the source. We are shown repeatedly throughout the story how Teddy is a liar--indeed, that isn't even his real name--and that he has motives of his own. One possible question I ask myself is whether Teddy had prior knowledge of the incident which resulted in Leonard's condition or was involved in some way. Even if that is not the case, once he became assigned to the case, as he states, he chose to use Leonard for nefarious illegal endeavors, such as the killing of the Jimmy for drug money. My point is that not only is Teddy an unreliable character, but worse than Leonard because he can remember the details of what he sets forth Leonard upon.
Wow. This was SO good, especially enjoyed your thoughts at the end. I love it when details are pointed out about my favorite movies that I never thought of even when I've watched the movie multiple times, like with this one. And the clips from the Nolan interview were fascinating, thank you for those. Liked and subbed, looking forward to more of your work.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Glad I could provide some new perspective. Thanks for subscribing!
I’ve always had a different take on Teddy. I went with "don’t believe his lies”. As such, Teddy is the one manipulating. Leonard never found his wife’s killer, Teddy lied about that.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Oh that’s an awesome take
@johndcoffee632
10 күн бұрын
Totally agree, is he a cop? Did he fake the police report? Who knows.
I've been mesmerized by this movie since 2009. My favorite thing about it is that everyone Lenny involves can be honest with themselves. No matter how ugly or horrifying they can still say, they did awful things. Lenny can't he has to be a good husband. He has his wife remembered in such a way. No one knows anything about Leonard's wife, but Leonard, but he's the only one who can't remember her.
Amazing video buddy. You did an amazing job comparing these films. I’ve never thought about it before this. Thank you man. Keep it up
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🤝
I wish I still had the dvd of memento where you can watch it chronologically
@iamnotinvolved1309
18 күн бұрын
You can find a video like that on KZread
Nolan also said that all he did was direct the film. It was Guy Pearce that mastered the character and gave the character tons of personality. Wonder why he has never casted him again.
This is, possibly, *the* best analysis of _Memento_ I've ever had the pleasure of hearing and watching. I am just enamored with the way you talk and explain your, very well thought out, ideas. It's perfect! Thank you for sharing this with all of us. Now I'm gonna check out some of your other videos, and subscribe to your channel because this is exactly my cup of tea. Hope you're having a wonderful summer! Peace, from this _(eeever so slightly)_ crazy Swedish woman, who lives in Norway ;P
@sder
Ай бұрын
Thanks so much for watching! I have more videos like this one planned so stick around!
Christopher Nolan is really obsessed with the concept of time.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Very much so
@zaratec2565
Ай бұрын
aren't we all?
Subscribed; love the parallel you drew between the two movies
To me the cope of the investigation was always, as much about sublimating the banal truth of his wife’s death and his complicity in it(the Sammy story), also that he literally needs the mystery to give himself a reason to engage with the world and keep his mind from further deterioration. It’s an extreme form of self stimulation
This essay was really well written. Appreciate it
Remember Sammy Jankis ❤ What a great video my guy
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
Nothing hits like a new soder upload
@aHedgerowFrog
2 ай бұрын
I agree- though if it continues in this fashion I might get a concussion😁
First time viewer of your channel. Excellent content! New subscriber here. Wishing you great success; you deserve it. ❤
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Means a lot 🙏🙏🙏
Very cool video and one of my favorite movies. I’ve always considered the confrontation with Teddy as another layer of subjective reality and manipulation, another layer obscuring Leonard’s “true” self, but I think your point about the sociopath logic of Leonard’s actions is really interesting. God I love this movie.
Amazing video! One thing tho, Shudder island came out in 2010 I believe.
It's so cool that the way the story is told leaves me longing for the actual facts, but I'll never get them, because Leonard never does. It's not about facts, it's about his and our interpretation of subjective truth. Did Lenny kill before Jimmy? Was Sammy married? Did Lenny kill his wife? Was Teddy a cop? Did he give Lenny a police report and did Lenny censor it? or did Teddy give him a fake to manipulate him? Why was Lenny smiling in that picture? Was the second picture he burned the smiling one? Maybe on a rewatch I might answer one or two of those questions, but the rest, all I'm left with is the subjective. Amazing movie And amazing analysis, definitely the most informative I've seen. You've earned a new subscriber.
I take that potato chip comment personally (as I eat potato chips watching this)
@sder
2 ай бұрын
😂😂
You may want to watch shutter island again because, in that movie he was an actual officer and they were trying to drive him crazy. But they couldn't get the crazy to stick and if you pay attention at the end of the movie you hear the other guy say it didn't work. (The one who he met coming over) His statement about rather being considered dying. A good man VS a murderer mean that he know who he is. He know he's a good man and he would rather die that way. It was a set up from the moment they met to get in his head.
Awesome movie, although the first time I watched it randomly on TV, I had a high fever which just ads to the confusion of the whole movie. In Hindsight, it probably add to the mood, like dimming the lights when watching a horror movie :D
i'm a big fan of nolan's works and THIS is how i find out he's british 🤣🤣🤣 great work, enjoyed this a lot!
@sder
25 күн бұрын
😂😂
It doesn’t become evident until the last scene of the film but Leonard slamming on the brakes of the car means that he is 100% faking his “condition” whether or not it is voluntary.
@kylemajerczyk8160
Ай бұрын
How is he faking?
@MinorKey135
13 күн бұрын
I’d love to read your breakdown of this!
Shutter island was released in 2010
ah yes 'memento' the film that ends in the middle
Every relationship has an element of deception in it. Sometimes it is self-deception and other times it is deception of the other. It forms a complicated dance of mild insanity that people call happiness until they can't
I've seen the film 7 times, and I thought I understood. Wow, amazing break down of his psychology
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@MrOhpieguy
2 ай бұрын
@@sder No sir, thank YOU!
...now where was I?
Leonard found out about his condition after he was diagnosed with his condition. So how does he remember that he has this condition?
@orlandoalessandrini2505
2 ай бұрын
He remembers Sammy Jenkins. And on an off note, I worked as a 911 operator, and got a call once about a guy who would get short term memory loss after having seizures. I asked the nurse how could he remember this, and she told me that he was aware he would forget after the seizures. Hope this helps.
@C00kiesAplenty
2 ай бұрын
Short term memory loss only prevents forming new memories, it doesn't prevent developing new habits or instincts. He probably had enough conversations with his wife for it to have become second nature to him. That and it's hinted at in the movie that his condition is psychological, not physical.
Music in the background at the start please? Absolutely beautiful ❤
Not sure if you are an avid reader, but would love your take on Gene Wolfe’s- Book of the New Sun. Especially if you take in the story through a similar lens in which you have broken down these films. It is *Chefs Kiss*
Yoo I knew I recognized Teddy's voice, he's Weasel in Mob of the Dead
@rottensquid
29 күн бұрын
He's also in a little movie called The Matrix. "Why, oh why didn't I choose the BLUE pill?"
Thank you! Adore Memento, never read the short story. Wizard. 👌
holy shit all of my favourite movies are christopher nolan's and i didnt even realise it
this was amazing!! imo, momento is better than shutter island, i mentioned momento to a few of my friends and they didn’t know what it was. your analysis on this was awesome!!!! can’t wait to see where this channel goes!!
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate it!
20:00 Would your suggested note of "I did it" mean that he wanted himself to think he'd killed his wife's killer or that he was the one that killed her? All options on the table, I think he chose the best one for himself, or his forever future selves.
Phenomenal video dude!! brb checking out more of your content
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I appreciate it!!
One of the best movies ever made.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
agreed
This is my third watch, i forget the first time i watched it so each time i rewatch this video its like the first time i am watching it 😅
@sder
Ай бұрын
Haha, I guess that’s a good thing 😂
Hey man love it btw are you looking for video editor?
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment- not looking for an editor at the moment.
I always thought the basic premise of this guy’s behavior and mental state fitting into this perfect pattern of the avoidant trauma response, but actually that’s not literally happening because what’s literally happening is he has memory loss from physical brain damage…yeah I always thought that sounded sus but I thought of it in meta terms as Christopher Nolan putting a redundant framing device on top of another rather than looking for diegetic reasons for it
This video is incredible
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
Like number 666 and subscribed. Another incredible video by a channel that doesn't miss.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Appreciated 🤝
The last analysis of Memento I watched just wanted to paint him as a villain. Glad to see deeper thought.
@sder
Ай бұрын
I appreciate it
Still Nolan's best movie!
@sder
2 ай бұрын
agreed
The DVD I bought of Memento has a feature where you can watch the scenes in chronological order instead of the order Nolan put them in, and I thought it was just so ... not it?
Great video
@sder
12 күн бұрын
Thanks 🙏
My brother, SHUTTER ISLAND released in 2010.. in 2006, martin scorcese made THE DEPARTED
@sder
25 күн бұрын
Yeah, simple typo, I have no idea how it slipped past me in editing 🤷♂️
Fantastic video 🎉🎉
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thank you ‼️⛄️
Was excited for momento but lost it when you get shutter island wrong
@sder
25 күн бұрын
At least that was just for the intro. Also, I don’t see Shutter Island as having a definitive right or wrong interpretation, that’s just how I saw it.
@XeiDaMoKaFE
25 күн бұрын
@@sder there's no coincidental things in shutter island , therefore there's only one answer
Oi, my favorite film❤
Well more accurately, Leonard's wife used Leonard to commit suicide
@sder
Ай бұрын
I haven’t heard that perspective, super interesting
@MinorKey135
13 күн бұрын
I always wondered about the logistics of her death so this makes a lot of (tragic) sense
This was spot on
@sder
2 ай бұрын
thank you.
Fantastic video
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏
got to watch momento for the first itme in my ap psych class. now i have tattoos in the same style
@sder
Ай бұрын
That’s sick
My favorite movie
Memento is a better Matrix movie than any of the Matrix movies
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I AGREE
What I never understood about this movie is that given that he did the Sammy Jenkis wife insulin thing, how come he is able to remember that when it happened after his injury (even if he remembers it having happened to someone else)
@JoshSweetvale
2 ай бұрын
Combinations of mental and physical trauma can cause unpredictable results. It's improbable but not impossible.
@C00kiesAplenty
2 ай бұрын
Short term memory loss prevents forming new memories, it (weirdly enough) does not prevent forming new instincts or habits. After his injury he probably had the same conversation with his wife anout his condition severak times a day, and each time immediately thought about Sammy Jenkins. Eventually he mixes up the stories in the second nature part of his brain, which does still work.
I disagree with your conclusion on Shutter Island; I think the movie is about the fact that they ARE preforming experiments on the island, and they've brainwashed the detective into BELIEVING he is a murderer, with the cigarettes. The storm plays a key role in noticing that fact!!
Tenet was relased in 2020
It is crazy how different we interpreted this movie. I always believed him when he said “you think I don’t know my wife”. I did not believe his lies, lol
@sder
Ай бұрын
Interesting
Bro… I was going through some bs one time and I was emotionally vulnerable to the max, and some woman came up to me and started manipulating me when I was down. I needed a friend and she wanted something else from me, and I knew it. But I needed a friend and the fantasy she provided me was so peaceful that I convinced myself that she really was my friend, and wasn’t just trying to manipulate me into getting something out of me. We were the best of “friends” for almost 2 years before we both kinda drifted away from each other slowly. I think we both knew what was going on the whole time but neither of us wanted to open up that can of worms. It is true, sometimes you will legit convince yourself that the delusion is reality, just so you can survive. It takes a particularly brutal and “in-your-face” style of callout from someone else who notices it in order to break free from it. Reality is often really brutal.
the twist of shutter island was obvious from the trailer
Ripped from Ten Second Tom
Maybe PTSD ? And it can happen for things outside your control
@sder
2 ай бұрын
Yeah that could definitely come into play here. Could be interesting to analyze these characters from a more clinical perspective
I just realized he knew at the end of shutter island. I was always under the impression that he was too far gone and the plan didn’t work…..but he knew, he would have rather died a hero in his mind then the man who went through all that pain and suffering. That’s heavy
@sder
2 ай бұрын
That’s at least my interpretation. A very dark resolution.
Man I've seen memento twice. I still can't remember who really kld his wife??
Shutter Island came out in 2010 the same year as Inception btw not 2006
Except that Teddy isn't a crazy killer man, he is a US Marshal who asked too many questions so was thrown into this MK Ultra-esque experiment where they tried to brainwash him into being crazy.
What is basis for the claim thst Leonard killed his wife?
Bad choice of music
@sder
Ай бұрын
It’s always a struggle, which part stood out as a bad fit?
@Gingerninja738
22 күн бұрын
@@sderlike around 1:30 that whole song kinda doesn't fit the whole vibe 4:21 this one is also too frantic and distracting over the audio.
@sder
22 күн бұрын
@@Gingerninja738 Very helpful, thanks for the feedback!
You're one of my favorite essayists, I've been hooked ever since I saw your Gone Girl analysis 🫶🏼
16:57
Tenet was a film from 2020. But, fuck time, right?
It's human nature. He used what he had as a tool to get what he wanted.
I gotta watch the behind the scenes on shutter island everyone has a different experience for that movie I took it as a man who was and is a detective who’s wife was murdered and he was struggling with the lose because she also took his child, however long later he was investigating the disappearance of a women who had been framed with the same story who he was basically emotionally connected to through experience and he met her in the cave while he was also being “turned crazy” just like the framed women who was once a nurse there by substances and psychology tricks. At the end he was referring to his “partner” that he was a a monster and himself is dying as a good man but I guess that’s the point of the movie is to have several perspectives and sticks with you for years wondering what it’s supposed to mean.
@01Parzival
2 ай бұрын
Because if he was stuck on shutter island he would know that he was being drugged already and he would know the cave nurse chick already he would have already had headaches ect these things come upon him entering the island and if he had been there it doesn’t say how he escaped and began running around the the island and it doesn’t explain the investigation with the women who his “partner” got the glass of water for, To right everything off as a delusion is delusional lol I have strong opinion on that movie because me and my sister have complete opposite ideas of what really happened
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I haven't heard that perspective before. There's definitely an argument for it and, like you said, the film doesn't provide a definitive answer so there can be many perspectives. It's always interesting hearing other takes. I might end up making a dedicated video on Shutter Island because it gets better every time I watch it.
Too bad the shutter island guy was actually a detective from the jump. He was supposed to be there investigating but they drugged him and convinced him he was nuts. Memento guy actually had a condition other than PTSD.
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I’m not too familiar with that interpretation of shutter island. What reason would they have for convincing Teddy that he’s insane? What do they gain from that?
@shm0ney
2 ай бұрын
@@sder kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZqLutCnctq_obg.html
@shm0ney
2 ай бұрын
@@sder They want to turn officers or normal people into brainwashed soldiers. The woman in the cave is real from what we can tell, so if she is to be believed then Teddy is not crazy. In the first scene on the boat, we see his partner, who we learn is actually a doctor at the facility. He is from the wrong place according to Teddy as he is supposed to be from Portland MAINE, but the Dr. says he's from Portland OREGON. This is how we know already that something doesn't add up. Why would he be coming from the mainland as well with a real gun if he were a patient there for TWO years. Finally, when meeting with the man he interviewed earlier he tells Teddy to "Let her go" meaning his wife as he was seeing visions of her in the form of hallucinations from the 'psychotropic drugs' they had him on. He could've gotten what he came for and left then and there but he got caught up in the manipulative psychology of avenging his wife. A plan planted there by his 'Partner' and the lead psychologist guy. All this evidence points to him being an actual Marshall, but getting brainwashed due to the extensive planning, coordination, and manipulation of all the staff on the island.
🤔 so Nolan basically made Tenet twice lmao
@sder
2 ай бұрын
I’d say that Tenet implements Memento’s concepts within the world of the film, so the characters actually are faced with the time manipulation. Whereas in Memento it’s almost purely an experience for the audience.
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Wait? So Leo and the other dude? Played the same dude???
u really missed a point with shutter island, he was never insane or bad, they played him
He’s NOT a master manipulator. He’s delusional - and he has hippocampus damage with no abilities to store new long-term memories - but that doesn’t make him a manipulator.
Shutter Island was horrible, The whole concept of crashing him into the reality of his wife killing their kids when basically he had no ability to accept that and having him run around with a fake gun that he for some reason never grasp that it was a fake gun. There were so many plot holes in that movie was ridiculous
shutter island is misunderstood. teddy was manipulated!!
Damn, guess I have more in common with Leonard Shelby than I thought. Ew.
Masta manipalayta