I was so excited for him and Leroy, but as soon as I got my hands on them it was an immediate nope. They definitely feel "new tekken" in a gross way

@watersheep5535

2 жыл бұрын

The problem is that "new tekken" give every (usually dlc) character EVERYTHING

@lucky-13gof47

2 жыл бұрын

Leroy only feels new if you were never interested in Wang.

@sourcesauce

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucky-13gof47 thats the biggest kick in the guts is that wang is just fuckin dead now that we're most likely stuck with leroy until the end of time

@xLimitlesso

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucky-13gof47 the only thing like Wang about Leroy is his parry and it's not even the same.

@RizzerixLP

2 жыл бұрын

@@watersheep5535 this is what the developers just dont get. they always say that they dont wanna remove moves, but just dont understand that this is the only way of fixing these characters. changing the properties is not enough. they can remove moves when they make a new tekken so why can't they remove moves during a lifespan of a tekken? we have updates and so on. its not 2005 where we were stuck with broken tekken 5 steve until tekken 5 dr. I just dont get it.

Remembering back in season 3, when Mainman thought Fahkumram wasn’t that broken. How times have changed.

@whatwhy6349

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of knee saying akuma is mid tier like bruh ain't you a tournament player who specializes in tekken stfu

@songoku6067

2 жыл бұрын

He said that about every dlc character and look at them now

@whatwhy6349

2 жыл бұрын

@@songoku6067 remember that time when he said lidia is top 1. What a dumbass This why my trust for people measuring character strength is non-existent.

@oreowithurea5018

2 жыл бұрын

He even thought Leroy wasn't broken, but look at now

@atsurokihara5525

2 жыл бұрын

hindsight is 20-20 my man. but yeah pretty funny to think back on it. i suppose it's hard to hate when your developers are literally supporting your favourite game with new characters. and as always it takes a bit of time to fully understand the extent of how good he was.

Fahkumram was so insane for so long after his launch. Winning games with just CH3, 4 into ff+2,1 was common. I won matches with one hand holding a phone during a call. I'm liking where he is now though. He isn't too frustrating to play anymore. I think they could take some of his pressure down a notch since he has other tools he can make use of.

@kain1144

2 жыл бұрын

You didn't need 3,4 CH, if they ducked the second string of 3,4 ff21 was guaranteed on NH

@bweeptabop3944

2 жыл бұрын

Why the hell does he have a hellsweep and 3 ways to access it lol. Why do all three of the new characters have a hellsweep XD

@kain1144

2 жыл бұрын

@@bweeptabop3944 I don't mind the fact that all new chars have sweeps I do mind that each of them has a low that tracks both ways.. Leroy's sweep, fahkumrams sweep and lidias FCdf3, it kills mind games and reduces the skill gap.. If it would track to one side good players would know where to step, this way is all about guessing thus no skills.. Yes to sweeps no to marking sweeps lol

@bweeptabop3944

2 жыл бұрын

@@kain1144 Ya tracking sweeps are lame. Though liddys fcdf+3 I think is kind of see-able.

@kain1144

2 жыл бұрын

@@bweeptabop3944 lidias FCdf3? it's hardly seeable, yesterday chikenmaru used it on anakin who has great reactions in general, also it's i20.. However since it's i20 and her second slowest move from FC is i15(WS2) means that people can fuzzy, however this is where delay comes into play or FC cancel

And the fact that he came after Leroy. It's like they did this on purpose.

@SchifferThe2nd

2 жыл бұрын

*Leroy get released* "It can't get any worse can it? Harada: "watch me" *Release this abomination*

@brendongame2543

2 жыл бұрын

@@SchifferThe2nd Also, who do you think is more OP? I personally think it's Fahk. He has the advantages of a "big character", but almost not the weaknesses. Still hate Leroy, tough.

@southeastpaw1722

2 жыл бұрын

@@brendongame2543 Fahk was also buggy day 1, at least Leroy worked as intended on release.

Oh and something you missed about his 1, 4 punish is that if your opponent wasn't holding down the back button, a d/f+2 was gauranteed. Ridiculous how often this actually worked.

@xLimitlesso

2 жыл бұрын

That's just a property of moves that put you in a tailspin or are +15g etc. They're the same as being +15 except the opponent can guard. If they don't guard you can do anything that's i15 or faster

"The developer's hadn't learned their lesson... wasn't their any testing?" It's more likely that they deliberately released a powerful character to incentivise the playerbase to buy him. I don't believe for a second that they didn't know what they were making.

@CauseImDuncan

2 жыл бұрын

Seeing as it's always the dlc characters so strong I believe u

@rakanbabidan487

2 жыл бұрын

ye i mean its not like they were developing fighting games since the 90s, give them a break

@AidanMclaren

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, it's just another case of pay to win.

Fahkumram's d/f+1+2 is one of the best "carry" moves the series has ever seen. Any time you're losing, throw that bad boy out and laugh.

It was *so* cathartic when this dumb character was finally nerfed into oblivion and landed on his ugly face in the trash tier. The bears needed the company.

Fun trivia, his command throw's break was apparently from leftover Tag2 data, as every break in that game was 14f Murray tweeted this, which might also be why his and Zafina's movement is so good in comparison to every other character in T7 :

The devs just don’t mind letting us deal with busted ass characters because we all buy them in order to learn the match up, so they get twice the sales. The people who buy to win buy him(cha Ching) and the people who wanna lab that monster that is steamrolling them buy him (cha Ching)

5:55: Jesus, I remember that. Probably the most broken thing ever, and it wasn't even a move, just hitbox that wasn't there🥴. *How ironic, for a big character like Fahkumram*

@SonataNoKami

2 жыл бұрын

Hey man

@makhdoom65

2 жыл бұрын

Wasup bud

Fahks backdash was insane, his combos brought you to wall and killed you with his charged guard break moves

I still maintain that Season 3 PRE-LEROY Release was the best Tekken 7 had ever been. The community was optimistic and proud of their game and the patch balanced A LOT of characters. Top tiers were nerfed and the new moves on each character was something the franchise had never seen before and brought a lot of lower tiers up to a decent enough level... ... all that changed when the Leroy Nation attacked...

Can you make a video breaking down the recent Fahkumram and Lidya? It's a bit hard to see for some people that they're top tier.

I'd like to see launch Fahk up against launch Leroy competitively, final boss vs final boss, who wins?

@Guil_P

2 жыл бұрын

Leroy was a step above imo. Dude had EVERYTHING

@CHAINDRIVER

2 жыл бұрын

I'll take Launch Fahk anytime any day. He'll literally keep Leroy at range (3).

@oreowithurea5018

2 жыл бұрын

@@Guil_P it's arguable tho, don't forget Fakh's movement and hitbox, you can't use your best moves if they don't connect

@Guil_P

2 жыл бұрын

@@oreowithurea5018 oh yeah, I think a strong case can be made for both without a doubt. Leroy would still have a hard time in the longe range, but I think his unnerfed D1+2 would do work, being a 0ob, leaves opponent in crouch ch launcher. As to your point of moves not hitting, I obviously can't say for sure, with Fahk's backdash, but Leroy's tracking hellsweep and homing b4 covering the same range and having similar startups would certainly make Fahk's good sidestep less prevalent. Either way, definitely a fun though experiment for us Tekken nerds 🤓

@ManavSandhu

2 жыл бұрын

Leroy wins with homing FF+3 launcher for reach and ch db+4 launch for up close along db+1 being high crush

I remember joking around that Fahkumram's left leg was selectively tangible, since a lot of the time lows would hit his right leg if at all, glad to know it's not only noticed but well documented

The thing that causes problems is when a character has too much going for him. It used to be the fact that you would pick a character for the things they were strong in but they all always had weaknesses also. Now there are a lot of character that have it all. Wall carry, damage, movement, and so much more. Characters need strengths and weaknesses

Oh god.. harada tried to warn us

They absolutely knew what they were doing with him. I even believe Murray trains in Muay Thai, so there was probably special bias for Ram to be uber busted on launch. (Assuming that last bit is even true.)

Remember when they gave kazuya a homing hellsweep and tmm did a video of him explaining how dumb it was and how he was gonna main fahkuram 👀

Rewatching from patch 5.00, all I can say is lmao

Good video but I'd like to point out that generic throws do not have a larger break window than command throws, they are the same and there is one other throw that has a 14f break window currently which is Steves backsway wall push throw :)

I remember on day 1 of Fahkumram's release Mainman stated he was going to main him and that he was not crazy OP. I guess there wasn't as much of an outcry about Fahk initially as there was with Leroy, but it's funny looking back in hindsight now.

@mdc_dashie

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah hindsight is 20/20. Not sure if TMM would make a video on Lidia, but now that she’s considered a tournament staple, odd to think about how a lot of people only called her “mid tier-upper mid” on release.

@relaxingmeditationwhitenoi9701

2 жыл бұрын

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Yay it’s here! Fahkyourmom was an insane character in season 3.

I remember how busted this was. And fahk wasn't just banned in Pakistan. He had bans in ALOT of tournaments

df(1)2 was also kd on ch on release which is important because made it so that nobody dared to try and interupt even more

I dont get it whats holding Bamco to release a patch that at least tunes some numbers, really how much effort is required to decrease some damage on moves?

I remember seeing his trailer and not really knowing what Tekken 7 was. I got super interested in the game because of his trailer and he’s kinda the reason I got the game. I never got the character since I felt like I needed to earn buying a character by learning the game with the base cast. Now everyone says he’s over powered and I probably won’t ever buy them because of that lol.

@irakanis

2 жыл бұрын

meh fuck what people say abt the character man this community is bitch made. play whoever is the most fun to you and just have a good time w this game 🤙

@blurryface5744

2 жыл бұрын

Don't worry about it too much. This is one of the few fighting games where tier lists don't matter. I've seen chloe and panda players dominate world class pro players countless times.

@ryukgotbored_2556

2 жыл бұрын

If you like him there's no problem on trying him out. This is a fighting game, the better skilled player is always gonna have the edge. So we could use the strongest character in the game and still get destroyed by a random Gigas or a panda.

@StonersStowaway

2 жыл бұрын

@@blurryface5744 I mean you barely see anyone using panda, Kuma, lucky Chloe and at times gigas, as well as the vampire girl, followed by the ganryu...when you barely see mates playing with certain characters it makes it harder to defeat them In matches. Which is why when panda won a tournament it was surprising and shocking ash. Primarily because no one necessarily plays with the bears like that. When it came down to lucky Chloe....you barely see ANYONE in online matches or ranked playing with her...hell, arslan had to face that one mate in practice matches to comprehend how to play against lucky Chloe, most literally. If such characters were used all the time, it'd be much easier to fight against them

can you take a look at season 1 kazumi that would be amazing

New Tekken player here, as soon as I got Fakuh in the DLC I knew he was a problem 💀😭

I remeber asking TMM, back when Fahkumhram came out, who was stronger beteen him and Josie, and he said Josie was stronger. Fun times.

Love this old intro with Solitude

I genuinely pray that we won't get broken on release characters in Tekken 8. I hope Murray and Mishimastar learn their lesson this time around, and make new characters balanced, and if they can't do that...just make them shit on release, and make them stronger throughout the course of the game. If they somehow repeat the same New Character/DLC cycle that was T7, then I'm gonna be disappointed.

3:04 STANDING HERE I REALIZE

I want to be paid reparations from Bandai Namco for having to play against this fucking monstrosity on release. Online was absolutely ruined for months (and still kinda is tbh)

Idk if it's just me but, I never had a problem fighting against this character on launch. I played him for a day n a half and kinda figured him out, mained him, Bryan, A. King and Gigas, mostly played Bryan. I fought against TG Fahks, TGP Fahks and Purple Fahks with my Red Bryan(before rank reset) and beat the hell out of em but lost to other characters a lot more. Matchup knowledge I guess, it's the same with Jin too even though I can't play Jin to save my life. Haven't played this game since 2020 though. I do wish he came back in T8, not nearly as “op” but as good and hard to use as Bryan. Love his design and the power and weight in his attacks like Bryan, yes I'm an edgelord :l

@destructo3457

2 жыл бұрын

What are you doing here instead of playing on big tournaments then, Pakistani gods banned him because he was broken and somehow you didn't have any problems with him.

I still love Fakhyounaw, i was so hyped when his trailer came out : p

I'm new to tekken 7 due to the recent cheap sale I did play killer instinct and it seems that tekken went down the same route ki did with releasing new characters, make them more powerful so people would want to get them to win matches.

U forgot to mention df1,2 second hit CH launcher. Also d4 did 18dmg. Also 1,2,1 was safe mid hit confirmable. Also b4,3 was mid mid and safe. Df1,4,1 was neutral on block and fc. 3,4,3 was CH launcher and guaranteed hit on NH. 4,3,4 was knockdown wallsplat. Just to name a few

19:11 thanks tmm means alot haha my will to play died with leroy and fahks releases

You should talk about Season 2 Jin, if possible.

tekken 8 will be sick on release but who knows how much the dev team will fuck with the game with updates, “balance” patches and dlc characters

I feel like every dlc character is broken and banned except for the OG characters

Was it launch Fahk that also had a low crushing forward dash?

Would be good to see fahk, josie deleted for Bruce to return. Id go as far as trading Bryan for Brad Hawk to display previous used mechanics Namco used

I stopped wondering who tested leroy and fahk, they knew what they were doing. push out stupid op characters to drive sales, then nerf them gradually after the fact. They knew they overdid it with Leroy when he completely dominated tournaments, but they didn't patch it despite big tournaments being on the horizon. These people designed Tekken characters for years, some decades. THey absolutely know. It's their new business model, plain and simple. One of the few reasons that make me look forward less towards T8.

everytime he said "note the..." i died laughing

Please make a video that you guys are playin release Leroy vs release Fahkumram

Fresh new good ass TMM Tekken lesson! Baking hot!

I'm surprised that you didn't mention how his d/f+1 was +8~+9 on hit. This was absolutely not okay, especially for a d/f+1 with absurd range AND EXTENSIONS. A d/f+1 that was -3 on block and +8~+9 with that reach alone (standard 13f btw) would've been godlike, but they decided to not only give it an extension, but SEVERAL.

Leroy = Ogre. Fahkumram = True Ogre.

16:10 the default throws are useless that way, the window should be 20 frames still

16:20 All throw breaks have a 20-frame window in Tekken, not 27. This one had 14

@app6984

2 жыл бұрын

He said 20

I still think his wallgame is very cool from a design perspective when it comes to th wallsplat moves on block. Its unique because they don't have much use in the open field. What i dislike the most about him are his billion strings which are braindead to throw out. It doesn't have much to do with mindgames when you play a character who literally just string spams your enemy to death just because 4 of his 5 string extenders are not just safe but maybe even plus on block and/or cant be punished to the pushback or reach. That design choice is horribly fked up and needs to change. Just give him 2 different extenders and thats it, like most of the cast has. I believe he would feel a thousand times better to play against then.

@relaxingmeditationwhitenoi9701

2 жыл бұрын

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My love for tekken has grown apart from it 😔 I deleted the game at being at the rank of Emperor. Simply because I feel like my grind would be useless going against rage quitters, pluggers and etc. it’s no point it just wastes my time

Being a muay thai practitioner is why I like Fahkumram as a character.

Lol i still haven't recovered from Leroy and Fahkumram. Still remain as easy options to win without that much effort.

"Cant touch dis" *dabs*

Season 3 started with so much potential. Season 2 was full of awesomely updated, legacy characters & S3 started with Zafina, who I was really happy to see return. Then the T6 Bob-level dlc, new characters showed up, along with Ganryu who I don't mind, but wasn't excited to see return. Why does Bamco hate chain-throws, now? No Bruce & no new chains since T5/DR. Fahk got no chain-throws, which I find odd.... Muay Thai, & all. Wanted OG Raven to return, also. An updated Unknown would been sick, as the final dlc character. That Pink Ranger Polish chick at the end was quite a cop-out. Bamco's new logo makes alot of sense, to me. Thanks for the vid, TMM.

Its propably Bully Maguire in a suit

00:30 finally he said smith

Love you bro

I wasn't playing a ton when Fahkumram dropped so I didn't see a lot of launch Fahk. I did follow some videos of when he came out but I don't remember specific things besides the "ghost legs" effect from his strongest period. I remember more of what happened when they started nerfing him. I think they had more to work with when nerfing him compared to Leroy but he's still really powerful. His lows are tough to read but, in fairness, so are Josie's.

4:15 Still broken- people make the excuse saying "yea but his hurt-box is huge" its literally a pole with 2 arms , still a easy mode ass character - your emotion behind this is so accurate. The guard brake is crazy enough and is just a random god-like tool to have for any character AND They just up and give it to him! ... Not to mention his stage presence due to the lack of Knowledge on him cause people didn't buy him AND he's clearly powerful after the 1st round ‼️.

This is how T8 characters gonna play like.

I really like the character itself and his idea of deadly knees and anckles. He looks incredible. His attacks speak juicy power. But why they made him so broken lol. His very mechanic would give him hate even if he was not in top 10 on the launch. But for some reason, Namco decided to give him godlike reach with godlike frames on top of that.

I remember some people saying he wasn't that Op, merely new, after 2 weeks of him being out. I still can't fathom that. He was so blatantly Op it's not even funny. That d/f1 string instantly stood out as free offense on steroids.

The crazy dam in t7 is kazumis ws 3

Leroy and Fahkumram are just prime examples of Pay to Win.

U forgot to mention wall damage in season 3 are much more

I think what happened was a dev actually played the game online. Met a semi competent Akuma and said we need a character that strong from our game.

Yea it’s just sad how much pay to win dlc is a factor. But they can’t make the character bad or no one will buy the characters or pass

He's teaser Bruce Ervin

Hope you are ready for Tekken 8 being busted on release.......I do not think Namco will release tekken 8 in arcade....so the reasonable conclusion is T8 will be very broken day `1

Good content lately keep it up

If Fahk was scaled down to the average size of a male tekken character along with his movement and range he might not have been such a pain, but if he's not better than the last dlc character he wouldn't sell

@kain1144

2 жыл бұрын

But it's nice to have super tall char imo They should nerf some of his mix ups tools and he's fine

@southeastpaw1722

2 жыл бұрын

His size is fine, makes him unique from the rest of the roster. What Bamco needs to do is nerf his frames and properties more.

This is Sagat from Tekken vs Street Fighter, but without the projectiles and the Tiger Uppercut...

Fariboz tested release fahkumram

Season 4 should have been devil kaz from story mode for dlc lmao

Mainman forgot the whole screen bullshit wall bounce attack fak has :(

FOR SOME REASON

What is the break frames now on Fahks throw?

@JunKazamaFan

2 жыл бұрын

Same as everyone else's, I think.

@Shibu_PL

2 жыл бұрын

20 frames

14:21 "you could do this all day long and all she could do was jab". she can just duck the second hit and launch

@avsecam

2 жыл бұрын

But there is a mid extension

What about Tekken 4 Lee on Arena stage though? Kek

They should bring back these characters for T8

Good at start, nerf later, reason? - money, they need sell dlc character, but you cant sell something bad that why it is. Same strategy is in Path of Exile, they buff some skills and also make nice purchasable effects for that skills, and next league this skill become nerfed. We are dealing with pure marketing, and this is destroing whole gaming experience. Evreywhere marketing is involved, they just dont create art, gaming world is suffering, its all becoming like abstraction art where everyone can be an "artist".

Note the reach.

I will get him, looks fun to play.

@donvisione3634

2 жыл бұрын

He is fun to play but gets boring fast 🤷‍♂️

@oreowithurea5018

2 жыл бұрын

@@donvisione3634 for you, he's very fun to play at least for me. His design and animations are nicely done

@donvisione3634

2 жыл бұрын

@The tricky tick nah its fun sometimes, but i cant main him. Gets boring

let's appreciate the developers for disigning perfect characters 🙌

I didn't know Fahk got banned 😭

I maintain that this was done as testing in preparation for 8. They needed to re calibrate their metrics. Only explanation because otherwise makes zero sense.

I'm glad he's starting to see the bs in the DLC characters, he neglected the issues with all of them until he took a break with youtube it seems

Also sidestep 4 was safe

"Just block"

his side steps was fixed long ago

Mainman talks abt how busted Fahk is Hwoarang mains : ....

"Skip leg day all day long..." Bwaaahahahahahaaaaa...🤣🤣🤣

atleast now if u install the ancient ogre mod for him, hes the true god of fighting :D not like in tekken tag2 when he was god of sucking, go get the mod!

I stopped playing at Season 3. It was so bad. Recently came back and forgot how amazing the game is. Would still be nice to see a final balance patch to iron out some stuff I feel is kinda bullshit though.

As a Josie Main i seriously wondered what's the point of still playing this game? There is litterally my main in stronger. Still today you can just make a video about fakh and josie similar moves that will just show fakh have everything or almost in better.

@Brass_Heathen

2 жыл бұрын

I feel ya. 😔