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@Swiftiesdreamland

21 күн бұрын

Joe, please upload these onto KZread at some point, I'm too broke from all the Taylor vinyls I've bought 😃

@user-qi3gj3dn6t

20 күн бұрын

OMG NEW JOE VID ITS HAPPENING THE 👑 IS BACK

@kerrijustice8865

20 күн бұрын

Just found you,&I am already on a tear of watching your videos!!! You are so clever,& I'm a Swiftie & fascinated with fandoms,too! Your channel is so UNIQUE&thank u for all ur hatd work❤🎉😊

@ATWTMVTVFTVSGAVRALPS

19 күн бұрын

Can you make another videofor the even bigger delulu theory: KARMA

@antoniaosceola2262

19 күн бұрын

Hi joeeee, I was wondering if maybe u can do the history of the lost song (now found ) everyone knows that song? Ik u won’t see or maybe but I think u would like it cuz of the drama and the outcome💀

woodvale: died in 2020 ttpd anthology: born on 2024 WELCOME BACK WOODVALE

@tayrianaboy

21 күн бұрын

not kidding i made a playlist with TTPD tracks and called it woodvale and im kinda obsessed

@francedajao8231

21 күн бұрын

REAL WHEN I HEARD THE ALBATROSS I JUST KNEW WE’RE BACK IN THE WOODS

@asmrtpop2676

21 күн бұрын

Please don’t insult woodvale like this 😭

@gleamingtwinklingandsoinviting

20 күн бұрын

@@asmrtpop2676 they said the anthology, not the flop standard🤭

@brimnac

20 күн бұрын

@@asmrtpop2676 why do ppl think ttpd is a flop

maybe woodvale is the friends we made along the way

@minjisattention

16 күн бұрын

yeah

@Ivy-13-

14 күн бұрын

hide and seek the word "woodvale" was hidden and we seeked it.

we need a follow up video explaining how karma went from lost album to cat purring in my lap

@tombaker1643

21 күн бұрын

karma never existed, just another fan theory. Rep is too close to the message of a so called Karma album that it literally makes no sense

@lixbug

21 күн бұрын

@@societycrumbles the whole karma theory was clownery from the start. She literally said around 2016 that she was taking a break from releasing music in an interview, there was never "karma"

@liv97497

21 күн бұрын

​​@@tombaker1643I think the most that one could argue is that Karma might've been the name of the album but later got changed to reputation. I think it's possible that she might've started out with an angrier, more bitter album, but then it didn't make much sense anymore to name it karma when she kept writing love songs... to think she had an entire, nearly finished, album that was shelved is absolutely delusional in my eyes

@asmrtpop2676

21 күн бұрын

@@societycrumblesSome of y’all are ridiculousssssss like delulu land levels

@speaknowethansversion

20 күн бұрын

@@societycrumbles you cant argue with stupid i guess

the reaches trying to piece together clues for a third album are hilarious, just shows how easy it is to create theories and find "proof" on random things

@voxtur__7

21 күн бұрын

The HAIM sisters being turned into easter eggs by swifties took me out 😭

@amandaleebee98

21 күн бұрын

I didn’t even start the video yet but I know it’s coming lol

@Ariyl

21 күн бұрын

You should see the mcr fandom, theyre clinging onto every straw they can get... :D

@AFndjdj7373

21 күн бұрын

@@voxtur__7the letters in your comment add up to 843 Add 8, 4 and 3 and you get 17. Minus the gin and tonics I’ve had today (5 doubles) and you get 13. Taylor’s lucky number ❤ coincidence? I think not x

@Rachels7777

21 күн бұрын

Nah. Even all these years later, I still believe the clues like the 3 cardigans were as obvious as the Lover sign. And I still believe the third sister was an intended album that morphed into Midnights. High Infidelity was written in early 2021 and references the day the album would’ve been announced.

Woodvale: "I was suppose to be sent away but they forgot to come and get me" literal forgotten sister😭

@shirleycanevit4679

17 күн бұрын

they forgot to remove woodvale from the albam

@Ivy-13-

14 күн бұрын

hide and seek the word "woodvale" was hidden and we seeked it.

@lalalabiba

14 күн бұрын

woodvale is the middle sister... thats why she was forgotten lol we just didn't notice

@shrekism

13 күн бұрын

@@Ivy-13-literally, she's not dumb!😭 it HAS to mean something

@Life.w.Lauren.

7 күн бұрын

13 days ago

as a swiftie, i take comfort in knowing that i will never be delusional over a boy the way i am delusional for taylor swift theories

@sapphosgirlfriend

21 күн бұрын

same (im lesbian)

@thanatoast

21 күн бұрын

Girl this is only marginally better

@dazzlingburritoes5693

21 күн бұрын

​@@thanatoast marginally

@Gafafsg

21 күн бұрын

not same (im gay)

@thanatoast

21 күн бұрын

​@dazzlingburritoes5693 Marginally (adv.) To only a limited extent; slightly. This is 3rd grade vocab.

I would’ve just assumed that woodvale was gonna be the name for evermore but she changed it to make Evermore a title track and rhyme with folklore

@dazzlingburritoes5693

21 күн бұрын

Cus we are not hinged

@yutavergil

21 күн бұрын

actually, it's the opposite, woodvale was the original name for folklore in production, but she changed it

@asmrtpop2676

21 күн бұрын

@@yutavergilThey were saying what they would have assumed. Not what actually happened.

@epicspacedorito4916

20 күн бұрын

Wood vale is name of the street of Joe Alwyns family home

@anshusumanth6634

19 күн бұрын

WHAT???​@@epicspacedorito4916

the way this video feels like im listening to a secret under crime scene mystery or something and it’s just a taylor’s theory IM CRYINGGHG

@minjisattention

16 күн бұрын

thats how all joe regrets videos feel😭😭

@meghansullivan6812

5 күн бұрын

hHAHA ik like im on the edge of my seat here

i think it was just to test out spacing (woodvale and folklore have the same number of letters) without leaking the album name if the pics got out. def weird it was on official merch tho

@sapphosgirlfriend

21 күн бұрын

lmao finished the vid- guess i was right

@fosminclorin

15 күн бұрын

This mistake happened again with Slvt featuring the 1975

The intense music playing whenever the theories got outrageous killed me

@finnintheowlery

9 күн бұрын

REAL IT’S SO OMINOUS

i always knew the swifties are often wild in their theories and are often clowns, but the majority of the theories are literally borderline delusions😭

@Gafafsg

21 күн бұрын

Swifties doing weird numerology like that one video of the “Monster Energy = Satan” lady

@hunterthemystic

20 күн бұрын

@@GafafsgLMAOOO FR

@everex1239

19 күн бұрын

Well some of the delusional theories had become true before then so swifties were extra delusional with their thories

@tatanooki

19 күн бұрын

When they speculated that the new album is a double album, i thought "no way, she's dedicated but not THAT dedicated! She'll probably release an MV at 2AM or something" lo and behold....

@Enchantedswiftie67

18 күн бұрын

Some are 100% delusional, always expecting more out of taylor BUT sometimes we are correct...

the anthology is definitely woodvale in the sense that its the 3rd installment of the folklore triology. she never called it woodvale though lol

@bendowson3124

21 күн бұрын

I disagree, in my opinion, the similarities are solely due to Aaron Dessner's influence since he contributed much more to the anthology songs than to the standard edition tracks.

@gktte2574

20 күн бұрын

@@bendowson3124Aaron can make banger songs like WCS but Taylor chose to go into FolkMore-like production which is the best thing she did

@fosminclorin

15 күн бұрын

She didn't plan it, she did more folkmore songs for the fans who missed that sound and complained about Midnights.

I firmly believe Woodvale was just a mistake as she said. The similarities between the anthology tracks and Folklore/Evermore are mainly just due to Aaron Dessner's influence since he contributed much more to the anthology tracks than to the standard edition tracks.

I think these theories are fun up to the point where they start having real-world consequences. The Woodvale theory seems mostly harmless, I think. Can't say the same for some of the others (*cough* the Gay Taylor theory *cough*).

@thanatoast

21 күн бұрын

Also Swifties believing it despite TS telling them straight up that Woodvale wasn't real is the type of obsession that truly begins to be scary.

@fandroid6491

21 күн бұрын

Bestie, I'm worried about the Gaylor Swifties because the subreddit is still up and running

@gabrieladelgado8384

20 күн бұрын

What's the theory??? That despite her having exclusively male exes She's a lesbian???

@newme4462

20 күн бұрын

The woodvale theory is about her art, the gay theory is about her personal life.

@captainayaaya28

16 күн бұрын

The woodvale theory is just dumb fun while the Gaylor theory is sorta disrespectful to Taylor as well as actual LGBTQ+ artists

Honestly its Taylor's fault swifties are this delusional. I mean she literally put clues and riddles everywherdle. Even as a non swiftie "Woodvale" is pretty believable ngl

After Midnights’ release, we’ve gotten to know its process and Midnights was initially leaning into the same sound as folklore/evermore, but as she kept working on it, she felt like she needed to come back to pop and ended up doing Midnights the way it is. Maybe that was woodvale? Or The Anthology?

Oh wait the dark blue was for midnights lol

i think there was a 3rd album for the folklore trilogy but things turned rocky w joe and so we got midnights instead which is a one foot out the door album and ttpd is a moving on and rebound then new love with trav album

@ShimonOsher

21 күн бұрын

Midnights was released because she needed new “pop” songs to drive the eras tour

21:38 to add to this theory that the surprise songs are bsides from evermore/folklore a lost sister or the “woodvale”, she uploaded a video of her kitten Benji say he has two sisters, and this was during the clowning scene of the whole 2 thing. I think it’s not woodvale but it is also a sister to them

@anniehhhhhhhh

17 күн бұрын

Benjamin literally has two sisters (Meredith and Olivia)

LITERALLY WAS BINGING YOUR VIDEOS PERFECT TIMING KING

WE HAVE BEEN FEED ❤️

I'm a slowie but you make literally everything interesting...and I think that's beautiful.

I always thought woodvale was just a placeholder for folklore. It's similar to the Karma theories, it was probably repurposed into Reputation. But, TTPD anthology feels like the 3rd folklore-evermore album.

everything being an easter egg sounds exhausting to me honestly, i don’t know how people dedicate entire accounts to it. your videos are like going into another world and it’s the only way i can navigate them lol

you should do a video absout all the taylor swift albums that never existed! (timeless, karma, roses, kaleidoscope)

@Mysterium-zy6ri

20 күн бұрын

I've heard of Karma, but what's timeless, roses, and kaleidoscope?

@purple_rose959

20 күн бұрын

@@Mysterium-zy6ri in 2016 people thought that taylor was going to release an album called timeless, it’s a really long story and there was a website and a fake tracklist leak and stuff 😭 people thought 1989 would be called roses and then taylor kept wearing roses just to troll the clowns taylor said she hid the title of “lover” in the me! music video, every one and their mom guessed “lover” but taylor said “no one has guessed the title yet 🥰” so people thought it was kaleidoscope because of the visuals in the MV

@fosminclorin

15 күн бұрын

​@@purple_rose959they also thought it was gonna be called "Home"

Babe wake up, Joe Regrets just posted a new video!

@LordDomielOfElysium

21 күн бұрын

Read that as Joe Rogan and was so confused, then I was like “.. who Tf is Joe Regrets” and had to check the KZreadr name lol.

@mysteryshoes4192

18 күн бұрын

@@LordDomielOfElysium HELP??

@CatCatCaat

18 күн бұрын

Thank you babe

@LordDomielOfElysium

18 күн бұрын

@@mysteryshoes4192 💀

The editing on this video was really well done. I can tell you put A LOT of extra effort into it that wasn’t necessary but most definitely increased the quality and wachability.

@meghansullivan6812

5 күн бұрын

Ok so true!

I am a Swiftie and what always makes me crack up is that Taylor has not once… Not ever… done a super intricate, complicated, set of clues or hints. Literally, every single one of them has been like… when she released the song me! She hadn’t yet said what her album was going to be called and in one scene there’s a big billboard in the background that says lover (the name of the album). Or it’ll be an Easter egg like…. “Oh my God look there’s a song on her album called “sparkly rose dress”, and look, here’s a picture of her from three weeks before the album came out, where she’s wearing a dress with sparkly roses on it!” Or like when her new album (new att) had a song called Snow on the beach… she had posted a photo of herself on a snowy beach a few weeks before. My point is, they’re not typically clues. They’re more like Easter eggs and fun little things to notice after the fact. The most complex ones will literally be like… Say she’s releasing a surprise music video and not telling the fans … We realize *after the fact* that she posted every day for 5 days before with star emojis mixed within the caption… and each day she put one less emoji… And it was a countdown… As far as things you could possibly pick up on AHEAD of time, it would be something no more complex than that (emoji countdown lol). For the most part, they’re always things that you could not possibly figure out until after the fact. Easter eggs, not a riddle to be solved. The other kind of clue she does for the fans is where she’ll put hints within lyrics like, say there’s an older song that it’s really clear who it’s about (like “style” or “dear John” hahaha)… Then she writes another song that’s a lot more private like say it talks about the person’s addiction problems or that she was seeing them while they had a girlfriend… Or something more private like that that she wouldn’t want to put them on blast with publicly… with something like that, she’ll throw in a lyric or something from that other obviously-about-him song, so that we- the fans- all know, for sure, that the more private personal song is about that same person… As like a wink to the fans to let just us know. But it won’t be obvious enough that news can report on it… so it’s just for the fans (and again, after the fact). She has never once ever done a super complex clue like “ Oh, there was a sparrow in the background of the music video, and the sparrow is the state bird of (this isn’t true lol) Washington and as we all know her music producer from her second album lives in Washington, and his last name is “Pinkerton”, as we can see, she’s wearing pink lipstick in the scene with the sparrow… so she’s trying to tell us that she’s working with him. It’s never ONCE been something complex like that. It’s always something like the things I said, that would seem normal in the present, but then, with hindsight makes you go “oh, that’s clever!” or like I said, it’ll be like a little wink to the fans that only the fans will pick up on… But it’s never like an elaborate riddle with an escape room style set of clues lol. Like, even if you go back to the very first time she did this, on her very first albums where she gave up little clues about who the songs were about… when she was a teenager… All she did was in the Lyric book, put certain letters in bold, and then, if you wrote down all the bold letters, it would spell out a sentence like (whatever, I’m making this up>) “dancing at the Grammys” and let’s say she had been seen dancing at the Grammy’s to some musician that she had been rumored to be dating… So , that would make the fans go “Oh shit, this is definitely about him!” But the average person wouldn’t pick up on it and the news wouldn’t consider it like concrete enough to report on… It’s not meant to be like a crazed riddle lol it’s just supposed to be like fun little extra info for ppl who are big enough fans to care to figure it out. Just a fan thing with the fans. I don’t understand how they started thinking it was these elaborate things like this. It never has been. Not ever. Not even once lol.

@naishasaraff

18 күн бұрын

damn

@anniehhhhhhhh

17 күн бұрын

True. They’re not like a puzzle or something they’ll never figure out (unless it’s specified to be that way). It’s just a matter of time because they become obvious when stuff comes out

@minjisattention

16 күн бұрын

i aint reading allat

@MarcDoesNotKnow

7 күн бұрын

exactly! swifties just love to overthink stuff

@favouriteghost

6 күн бұрын

the peace sign before TTPD was just it's a two album drop. they're honestly very straight forward. but people have fun with their maths

We need the Karma album video ASAP now

i think you should have talked about how cardigan MV ended with a melody that was then the start to willow MV, which ended with another melody that could have been the start to a woodvale MV. you can’t blame us, the woodvale clowning just made sense at the time.

Folklore is my fav album. The anthology half is SOOOO folklore. The prophecy so folklore. Cassandra, is legit mad woman 2. I could see it honestly.

the algorithm recomended me this video 13 days later.

Aaron desner said They recorded 60 Songs during folklore era?!?! 60! people that aren't released!

@fosminclorin

15 күн бұрын

I keep these longings locked In lowercase, inside a vault

$20 for 3 scrunchies is crazy

@MarcDoesNotKnow

7 күн бұрын

taycapitalist at her finest

This is why i love being a swiftie the delulu clown ing is so fun sometimes 🤣

GUYS MIDNIGHTS WAS DARK BLUE, IF THE COLOR THEORY IS TRUE THEN MIDNIGHTS IS WOODVALE 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

@UR_FAV_GIRLY126

4 күн бұрын

From though like they are over thinking it

I literally watch 6 of your videos and this pops up. Thank you ❤️❤️❤️😍😍😍

i really like the editing on these videos 👍

new yearly post from joe!!

@Ash_W04

21 күн бұрын

He’s actually been posting a crazy amount in the past year! Plus one extra video if you count his second channel

@lwvrrboyy

20 күн бұрын

@@Ash_W04 it's a joke.. wbk hunny it's bc he used too rarely post around 2020 smth ijbol

@Ash_W04

20 күн бұрын

@@lwvrrboyy I know it was a joke; I was just commenting how wild it is that he’s been uploading so much. Also I’m not chronically online enough to decipher your full comment

@lwvrrboyy

20 күн бұрын

@@Ash_W04 ok well glad 4 u.. u throw around chronically online loosely when it takes a few scrolls to find that out

@cloed0ll

8 күн бұрын

​@@Ash_W04y'all will call anything "chronically online"

The amount of reaching and delusional that us Swifties did is so embarrassing

yessss i’ve been missing your videos so much lately!!! pls put more out 🥹

BUT LIKE TAYLOR HAD A BIG OPPORTUNITY THO

When you mentioned TTPD I thought you were going to talk about the line “I keep these longings locked in lowercase inside a vault” from Guilty as Sin? as that single phrase feels like fuel to the whole theory that a 3rd album may really exist, since all the names are lowercased and it might still be in the vault as other songs of hers.

@annabennett6161

14 күн бұрын

This is my theory too!!

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO DO THISSSS THANK YOU

You really did your research! This is an amazing video. Especially going into the merch. I remember when there were three different color scrunchies being sold during that time and we all thought it was woodvale!

This was VERY well done! Thank You 🌞

This theory still isn’t as big as the karma ts theory

the energy for Karma never died down

YAYY NEW UPLOAD

love ur videosss

OUR KING HAS POSTED AND IM LATE

THIS A DREAM COME TRUE, I LUV YOUR VIDEOS, KING! 💅😍

“Do you really wanna know where I was April 29th?” Laughing at us, knowing there would be no album the next day

omg love ur videos hope to see this again but for the karma album that was suppose to happen when she bleached her hair ❤😭

amazing video as per usual

I literally knew straight away from listening to TTPD Anthology that it sounded like folklore/evermore. I definitely do believe that The Anthology is a re-packaged version of "woodvale" and the reason why she probably released it under "The Anthology" was most likely because she didn't want to post 2 new albums at once.

you really have the most random but interesting themes covered on your channel!! and i also like your voice its pleasing to listen to. i hope this do not come of as too weird

omg i was waiting for a new joe regrets video 😂😂😂lets go

Thank you so much for this.

we need a part 2, but about karma

Ok I prob don’t think I did it but maybe..so the 3rd letter in folklore is L the third letter in evermore is E the 3rd letter in wood vale is O that means Leo…Leo is a sign from July to august… August is a song in folklore.. folklore was released on July 24..seven days away from august ….seven and august are in folklore…so what does this mean?

Yes! Can you do the other fan theory for seashore? I dont see people talking enough about it...

You are literally one of the best creators on this platform, you put so much effort and good humour into each one of your videos wich makes them so entertaining, you MUST be more appreciated.

Joe’s videos always make me extremely unsettled but i am obsessed with the accent and the lore so i return

THANK YOU FOR POSTING JOE!! what was your fave met look today xx

@JoeRegrets

21 күн бұрын

Demi Moore! :)

im crying i wish it was another i love folklore and evermore and folklores my favourite i really wish

Idk if anyone saw this but on the woodvale merch thing where taylor was teasing everyone, it said it was 31% on like an online thing for 31 hours. Well anyways with the anthology added to ttpd ir makes it 31 songs. Either taylor swift was planning the whole time or im delusional like every other swiftie lol

I LOVE YOUU💕💕!!

Honestly with how insanely good folklore / evermore are, I can’t blame the swifties for wanting more of her folk stuff. Not to defend anyone who harasses or bullies or takes it way too far

the swifties went nuts over a graphic design common mistake I-

You should do a video about the lost song Dance For Hours a Day or just lost songs and the fandom of trying to find them in general

AINT NO WAY YOU TALKED ABOUT THIS

Maybe Woodvale was the working title for folklore?

20:26 that dramatic background vibration is so funny lol

yay joe regrets uploaded! 😜

WE ARE CLOWNING TOO MUCH

as someone who has never followed TS so i don't know what any of these things you're talking about are, these stories are so entertaining. i was hoping for a cracked code at the end lol

Swiftie theories are fun and all, but after numbers and math get involved...I'm OUT 😅

this still boggles my mind

Maybe folklore was meant to be called woodvale but they changed it last minute

Guys Taylor confirmed Woodvale was a code name for folklore that she told her team as she didn’t want to reveal the actual name of the album until it was released. She left it on the album cover as an accident and removed it from all the other variants but forgot to remove it from the hide and seek variant

ITS JOE REGRETSSSSS YESSSSS

“Those Windermere peaks look like a perfect place to cry” -The lakes 6:25

This is so fun

as I much I desire that woodvale exists, I just can't stop thinking that all the clues that were blue was for midnights actually

Not me making a cameo on a JR video 🤭🤭🤭

I KEEP THESE LONGINGS LOCKED IN LOWERCASE INSIDE A VAULT

this was quick

THESE GAVE ME GOOSEBUMPS! I really feel like the Anthology album is supposed to be the Woodvale album. The 15 tracks sound off compared to the original 16 of the Tortured Poets Department. These past few days, I tried listening to the Anthology without having to listen to the first 16 tracks from TPD and I thought to myself, this additional set of songs are great and could be a good on rotation with the Folklore and Evermore albums. SO as a member of the department, I declare WOODVALE, REVEALED through the ANTHOLOGY artifacts!

I’m convinced now that she moved the folklore and evermore set together so she can stitch woodvale in afterwards!!! 🌲🌲🌲

i feel like it wouldve been the third, but taylor needed more pop songs for eras tour, hence midnights, and she needed to rerelease, and then she started making ttpd. so no woodvale.

Woodvale truly was the friends we made along the way 😂

Woodvale could have been an old name for the album

I think it’s funny that the only special addition that ‘Woodvale’ was on was hide and seek. Maybe she didn’t want to remove it and led people to seek the ‘Woodvale’ words to throw people off and later “hint” at it

idk why but this scared the shit outta me

The way 4 years after we still have NOT learnt from our mistakes 😭😭

wake up there’s a new joe regrets video and ariana grande is at the met gala!!

The amount of hyper fixation on theories and possible hidden measages some of these fans have is a little worrying. I doubt even Taylor intended to lead them on.

In my opinion I really think woodvale was just an album title she scrapped and added on the hide and seek vinyl for fun, nothing more. Taylor Swift isn’t someone to just shelf an entire album. Great video btw