The Tankadin - World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Classic - Protection Paladin Maintank Guide

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A comprehensive Protection Paladin Main Tank Guide for World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King Classic - Covering the essentials for the class and spec.
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00:00 - Intro
05:00 - Changes from TBC
07:43 - Strengths, Cooldowns, Ardent Defender
14:49 - Talent Build
29:00 - Consumables
30:18 - Rotation/Ability Priority
38:15 - Gear Priorities
41:01 - Final Word
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  • @NivGSL
    @NivGSL Жыл бұрын

    The expertise soft cap is 26, not 20. The base dodge chance for bosses is 6.5%, not 5%. The expertise hard cap is 56, not 60. Bosses have a 14% chance to parry, not 15%. Also as of phase 3 gear you get so much expertise that glyph of SoV is pretty redundant, since most of your abilities are spells anyway. I'd say that glyph of salvation is mandatory simply because it is super OP, along with glyph of divine plea. For the last spot I use judgement personally, but if you prefer the hit for taunts that is completely fine too (imo) I'm also seeing some people in the comments urging people to use FAST weapons as a paladin and you need to stop trolling. Both SoV and hammer is based off weapon damage (not weapon DPS) and for this reason you want as slow a weapon as possible. Every other ability is based off str/ap and spell power with the exception of shield of the righteous which is based off your block value. Have a nice day.

  • @HWRogue
    @HWRogue Жыл бұрын

    Man, I been doing this all wrong since pre-patch. Super helpful.

  • @bradveach2333
    @bradveach23332 жыл бұрын

    Very well done thanks. Im a healer at heart so was very informative 😍

  • @Leonx818
    @Leonx8182 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for the paste bin

  • @CDank
    @CDank2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for teaching me about prot paladin. There was nowhere else to find the level of detail that you provided (and I looked!). Haven’t seen the video yet, but I know your content is always solid. So thanks in advance!

  • @hi14993
    @hi14993 Жыл бұрын

    UPDATE: judgements of the just talent has been tested a bit and has been found to trigger seal effects. Ordinarily, judgement does not trigger your seal but the talent effect *does*. This is huge for threat output.

  • @Lobart

    @Lobart

    Жыл бұрын

    Is this intendet? Or already fixed?

  • @crojackbojangles
    @crojackbojangles Жыл бұрын

    so detailed thank you

  • @CheFPV
    @CheFPV Жыл бұрын

    You should be the new Tankadin. I got all my info from WOTLK original back there. This has dispelled my 969 rotation myth better insit to pulls, spells, talents the works really great work thanks

  • @morganspencer9868
    @morganspencer98682 жыл бұрын

    Was wondering if you could do some raiding tanking guides. Like naxx/ulduar etc.. dont have to be super long just some pointers youve experienced in the passed would be greatly appreciated.

  • @Costin_Gaming
    @Costin_Gaming2 жыл бұрын

    EDIT: I forgot to talk about professions. Read this post to know what professions to use. This certainly took a lot of effort. It may not be perfect but I did give it my best to cover as much as possible. Specific gearing guides will come later as tools become available. Thanks for watching. Join my discord if you want to learn more, and also consider donating via these links to support my work: ➜ Discord: discord.gg/a4rBAFkqTr ➜ Paypal www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=EEN4KMAWNVANS ➜ Patreon: www.patreon.com/seriousgaming?ty=h Professions JC - Early Trinkets, Mandatory until Ulduar Trinkets. Stamina Gems throughout Expansion Engineering - Rocket Boots Blacksmithing - Gem Sockets Mining - Stamina Boost. I strongly recommend for every Paladin tank to get JC, there's only 1 Stamina Trinket available until Ulduar outside of the 2 you can get from JC. Engineering is generally considered very strong due to Rocket Boots but although cool I don't find it quite mandatory personally. Still a lot of people will feel otherwise.

  • @MrCyberMuffin

    @MrCyberMuffin

    2 жыл бұрын

    Engineering is mandatory for the mount :D

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    Engineering is also for the glove armor enchant and bombs.

  • @theblueberry4884
    @theblueberry48842 жыл бұрын

    Gotta love it that u mention Kungen ^_^ Now that was a tank you looked up to ^_^

  • @xdude7300
    @xdude73002 жыл бұрын

    could you sometime make a video showing off some of your hud elements, specifically your nameplates, debuff/buff timers, and the threat nameplate colors? Hud is super important and not only is there some good elements i want to use from yours, but i think a video going over important hud elements would be really helpful as well

  • @lyzzerg

    @lyzzerg

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s ElvUI

  • @limnades
    @limnades Жыл бұрын

    thanks a lot for the video

  • @Bronimin
    @Bronimin2 жыл бұрын

    RE not having mana early on, hand of reckoning does so much damage you can hold aggro on most pulls with just that, consecrate and retribution aura

  • @knightimer2
    @knightimer2 Жыл бұрын

    So for leveling, you suggest getting to level 60 then respeccing to a main tank build once you get HotR? I'm looking to solo level as prot, with the ability to tank dungeons up to lvl 80.

  • @richardmartin6282
    @richardmartin6282 Жыл бұрын

    In the Retribution talent tree, is there any reason you choose Conviction over Sanctity of Battle (for the last point)? My understanding tells me you get 1% crit from all attacks and spells on both talents, but you get an extra 5% damage on Exorcism as a puller or ranged attack to use on a flying mob. Am I missing something? :D

  • @RealDoubleFatNoob
    @RealDoubleFatNoob Жыл бұрын

    This video hurt my eyes, chill with the sharpen textures. Anyway great guide.

  • @Bobadaddy58
    @Bobadaddy583 ай бұрын

    Your UI is incredible

  • @tsteken
    @tsteken Жыл бұрын

    Besides Sanctity of Battle beats out Conviction, even if so small solid guide!

  • @SuperZekethefreak
    @SuperZekethefreak Жыл бұрын

    Seal of Vengeance and fast attacks are crucial. SoV causes a holy damage DoT every 3 seconds for 15 seconds, stacks 5 times, with subsequent swings granting a damage bonus of 33% weapon damage as holy damage and continuing to refresh the stack's duration. Furthermore, for every stack of Holy Vengeance on the target, Judgement's damage is increased by 10% (up to 50%). With Reckoning, Mongoose and Haste, you are attacking faster, and SoV pops off with every single hit. I stacked Agility, around 700 pts with raid buffs, giving me a ton of extra armor, an immense amount of Dodge (35% for a Paladin Tank? lol. With the tier gear I had another 20% Dodge for 12 seconds, originally 20 seconds lol!) and Agility gave me a TON of "Melee Crit" which boosted some paladin stats, like Seal of Command, Hammer of Wrath and a few others. The Agility gave me so much mitigation I didn't need to boost mana with anything but Blessing of Sanctuary. 1 pt Guarded by the light was enough, because it is refreshed by melee hits too and I was attacking so quickly it was up 100% of the time. With the Glyph, this gave me 15% damage reduction, 18% spell damage reduction.

  • @SuperZekethefreak

    @SuperZekethefreak

    Жыл бұрын

    Also - Guarded by the Light makes your heals 50% less powerful. Just so you know. If you are needing to Flash of Light yourself back from the brink of death, you might want to remove Guarded.

  • @duncanpeacock2177
    @duncanpeacock21772 жыл бұрын

    nice video thanks :) my understanding on expertise caps is that the soft (dodge) cap is 6.5% (26 expertise) and the hard (parry) cap is 14% (56 expertise). That is definately true for tbc classic and as far as im aware its still true for wrath at least from the information ive found. Guess we will find out in beta haha :) Keep up the good work!

  • @Eric95372

    @Eric95372

    2 жыл бұрын

    It is . He was getting expertise rating & expertise mixed up.

  • @blackfalcon1324
    @blackfalcon13242 жыл бұрын

    Oh dang, I kinda liked the castor melee from tbc

  • @BalderTray
    @BalderTray Жыл бұрын

    As a beginner, I would have appreciated an explanation on the macros. Why use them, when, this sort of thing.

  • @Bronimin
    @Bronimin2 жыл бұрын

    paladin jesus back with another guide

  • 2 жыл бұрын

    So many buttons to mash... my keybinds will have to undergo a complete makeover :D Thanks for the vid Costin, I love listening to your prot pala related vids, hope to see some more coming :)

  • @Stompy1984

    @Stompy1984

    2 жыл бұрын

    You can potentially have your whole standard-rotation mashed into either 1 button (all 6-9-6-9-6 rotation in there) or 2 buttons and alternate them when tanking. Really easy-going.

  • @stinkynightelf
    @stinkynightelf Жыл бұрын

    Hey I didn’t see you mention glyph of holy wrath, making it only a 15sec AoE stun that can crit, CD, I’ve find it incredibly useful, in phase 1 what do you think about it?

  • @AmorXcatalunya7
    @AmorXcatalunya7 Жыл бұрын

    what's the addon to see debufs on the nameplats of the enemies? thx

  • @oliver9069
    @oliver90692 жыл бұрын

    Would you happen to have an addon list? Great video and MT for my raiding guild really like your UI and whole set up on screen.

  • @davidvandenberg3116

    @davidvandenberg3116

    Жыл бұрын

    U know it?

  • @hermelin12
    @hermelin12 Жыл бұрын

    how many points in resilience do i need, per point of defense, that i am under 540? is it 1:1, so meaning that if i have 520 defense i need 20 resilience?

  • @Xereo91
    @Xereo912 жыл бұрын

    Why not Sanctity of Battle over Conviction for those last two points? They both do the same thing, but you get extra damage on Exo.

  • @philliplapointe3299

    @philliplapointe3299

    2 жыл бұрын

    Noticed that as well.

  • @doncorleone1720
    @doncorleone17202 жыл бұрын

    Def trinket is pog

  • @shugo66
    @shugo66 Жыл бұрын

    Is this build for raiding or dungeons or both? Because I plan to tank dungeons mostly since I get freaked out tanking raids but would still like to try raid tanning but I do enjoy dungeon tanking.

  • @defeeded0887
    @defeeded08878 ай бұрын

    Some hunter pets can reduce attack power if no class in your party cannot.

  • @zynthexthezane
    @zynthexthezane Жыл бұрын

    Is full prot pally a thing in Wrath PVP? I'm not talking about Preg. Great guide. Just what I was looking for.

  • @sweetdeal8951
    @sweetdeal8951 Жыл бұрын

    Can you create a Gear List for Boosted Characters? To start right into good dungeons?

  • @raevns
    @raevns2 жыл бұрын

    Is your UI posted anywhere? Clean af.

  • @eastsidemoneyton
    @eastsidemoneyton2 жыл бұрын

    Im swapping mains from my 99 parsing prot warrior to prot paladin thanks for the video looks like I’m gunna have a lot of fun tanking as a prot pally

  • @Kaldor217
    @Kaldor2172 жыл бұрын

    Hey. Is there a Way to get this UI? It´s awesome!!!

  • @emillarsen4329
    @emillarsen43292 жыл бұрын

    hey costin i love all your paladin content and i have been watchin since start of tbc. would it be possible to make a proffesion guide for paladins ?

  • @AI-cp1jg
    @AI-cp1jg2 жыл бұрын

    Ya, exactly right, tanks need to have situationational awareness. One of the worst tanks I have seen (although in a dungeon and not a raid), he would just pull everything and run away which led to all other party members dying except for him and the healer many times. Truly hated him.

  • @Fallenjades
    @Fallenjades Жыл бұрын

    Could you please share your ui + addon configs

  • @zeroresistance7203
    @zeroresistance7203 Жыл бұрын

    03:30 I remember my guild Saying We have SHIT hunters and SHIT Rogues and not blaming tanks for the ADDS, killing healers.,

  • @deadmanfredtv2062
    @deadmanfredtv2062 Жыл бұрын

    Thank God, someone else finally saying the 868 rotation is NOT the way! The majority of guides out there are soooo wrong.

  • @josemariavacaredondo8975
    @josemariavacaredondo89752 жыл бұрын

    Fantastic guide for us proc pala wannabes Costin. But I'd like to ask you something: what are the addons you use for displaying the health bars differently, showing the time effect of your buffs on bars, and the one where it offers you the CDs of the Lich King abilities on bars? Especially the one for the health bars, I've seen a lot of people using it but I never find it. Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

  • @davidvandenberg3116
    @davidvandenberg3116 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone here that can tell me how I can get that same UI he’s using in the video? Looks clean!

  • @flpsnk4848
    @flpsnk4848 Жыл бұрын

    Isnt Holy Shield missing from prepull abilities?

  • @TheHoboWithAShotgun
    @TheHoboWithAShotgun Жыл бұрын

    mjy problem i when im tanking now in wotlk classic at 80 now my mana seems to run out mega fast and i cant do shit how do u manmage ur mana? evne with divine plea still run out so fast

  • @benjaminfeuer3188

    @benjaminfeuer3188

    Жыл бұрын

    stop consecrating so much

  • @shugo66
    @shugo66 Жыл бұрын

    Also when doing dungeons which blessing so I use on myself? Do I use might or do I use the Sanctuary one I honestly don’t know.

  • @hi14993

    @hi14993

    Жыл бұрын

    Sanctuary.for sure it has dmg reductions extra HP and a str boost that gets factored into spell power PLUS it regens mana when you block, parry, or dodge.

  • @henshire
    @henshire Жыл бұрын

    u dont need 3% criti to change for vindication or judgement of the lust.. u dont know if u ll be with other retry dps or dk etc...

  • @AFriendlyToaster
    @AFriendlyToaster Жыл бұрын

    Full Talent Tree 28:58

  • @MrCyberMuffin
    @MrCyberMuffin2 жыл бұрын

    Why do you go so hard for resilience rating in the pre patch set? To be crit immune longer during dungeons in wrath?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    To be crit immune for raiding. The goal is to have a gear set that you can use to hop directly into raiding even 25 mans. You won't be able to tank Sarth 3D with that but you should be able to handle most everything else in 25 man. It isn't finished. I need a level 80 upgrades website or tool to handle ratings properly.

  • @MrCyberMuffin

    @MrCyberMuffin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Costin_Gaming Ah okay, so it is with lvl 80 crit immunity in mind. Thank you

  • @zacharyleahy9707
    @zacharyleahy9707 Жыл бұрын

    If you care about damage so much why not drop the 2 points in pursuit of justice and put them in sanctity of battle instead? This would also help your burst threat with exorcism since you generally open with it.

  • @hi14993

    @hi14993

    Жыл бұрын

    Because having extra mobility to react to some form of failure in the raid is much better. For example, during one of my recent raids in naxx, I was OT for gluth and MT had threat and the hunter who was to kiting the zombies died. I ran over and picked them up and dragged away from the boss. Managed to turn a potential wipe into a kill.

  • @Kagedamage
    @Kagedamage Жыл бұрын

    Im curious whats your reasoning for taking Pursuit of Justice in the retri talent tree, could you elaborate on that please? :)

  • @saetia2724

    @saetia2724

    Жыл бұрын

    Movespeed is arguably the most valuable Stat in the game for any class. This is the most MS bonus you can get, and you get a free reduction on disarms.

  • @Theblackurso
    @Theblackurso2 жыл бұрын

    Hey, nice video. What about professions?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah damn I knew I had forgotten something: JC - Early Trinkets, Mandatory until Ulduar Trinkets. Stamina Gems throughout Expansion Engineering - Rocket Boots Blacksmithing - Gem Sockets Mining - Stamina Boost.

  • @eastly2009
    @eastly2009 Жыл бұрын

    You're talking about endgame strategies here. Anyone know of a good video on how to build a prot. Paladin from lvl one? Mainly where to put talent points early game and how to develope protection talent tree. Can I put points into holy and retribution? When should I start focusing protection talents?

  • @monkehm

    @monkehm

    Жыл бұрын

    The whole first part of the talents section does exactly what you're asking. Pay attention.

  • @eastly2009

    @eastly2009

    Жыл бұрын

    @@monkehm I stopped watching before then because the concepts were complex I assumed he wouldn't cover the basic stuff. But your comment brought me back to the video so thank you.

  • @cleanslate1561
    @cleanslate1561 Жыл бұрын

    I was wondering if you recommend levelling as ret and then swapping to prot at level 80? I want to tank but ret would be much faster to level I’m sure.

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    It's not much faster. LK prot has much more damage before 80. Mana is your only limiting factor for Prot, especially since you can pull tons of mobs at once.

  • @hi14993

    @hi14993

    Жыл бұрын

    Agreed plus if you level ret and swap to prot, you will skip out on tanking practice in lower level instances

  • @KingMeansMikey
    @KingMeansMikey8 ай бұрын

    anyway i can get your elvui profile? it looks so sick

  • @maxxhusky4725
    @maxxhusky47252 жыл бұрын

    Eightyupgrades is now available. Can we expect a video for pre-patch, pre-raid, T7 gearing soon?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    yes

  • @Foxhound76
    @Foxhound76 Жыл бұрын

    what is giving ur graphics that dark hue to everything? looks cool

  • @rebirthmode3437

    @rebirthmode3437

    Жыл бұрын

    elvui

  • @TheMaxel2010
    @TheMaxel2010 Жыл бұрын

    What addons are you using

  • @morganspencer9868
    @morganspencer98682 жыл бұрын

    As a prot paladin do you need spell hit and melee hit? or are they one in the same in wrath?

  • @highrhino

    @highrhino

    2 жыл бұрын

    It should just be hit rating so If you can get melee hit cap with gear then the taunt glyph will make up the rest needed to get spell cap for taunts

  • @morganspencer9868

    @morganspencer9868

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@highrhino Thank you! was very confused with this.

  • @enforcer6667
    @enforcer66672 жыл бұрын

    you do the 9-6-9-6-9 rotation and you will use everything when it comes off cooldown and have the best usage of it.

  • @ksherman51

    @ksherman51

    2 жыл бұрын

    wats 9696

  • @akitos6413

    @akitos6413

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ksherman51 9s cds such as holy shield & judgement and 6s cds (hammer & shield). While this likely produces more threat in the long run, it's certainly a lot worse for snap threat because you're delaying your 6s cds at the start. So it really depends on what you want/need to accomplish.

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    You just fall into 969 after you do your opener. You don't pull with 969.

  • @ksherman51

    @ksherman51

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Surefire11B What's the opener. Sorry I am new to paladin completely for wrath

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ksherman51 Basically you pop holy shield, wings, then Hand of Reckoning to pull and shield while it runs at you.

  • @cf3592
    @cf35922 жыл бұрын

    great vid. very clean ui. what add-ons do you use?

  • @h0gan100
    @h0gan100 Жыл бұрын

    Hi, would you be willing to share your elvui profile? I really like your hud!

  • @ImurTuta
    @ImurTuta Жыл бұрын

    With 5 points in reckoning, wouldn't reckoning have 100% up time? Maybe not on all bosses though. But 100% up time on reckoning would mean u don't need a 2 speed wep or less to min max reckoning.

  • @greg9010

    @greg9010

    Жыл бұрын

    The Reckoning talent here says that it procs after being hit but on live it says that it procs after blocking or being hit. Was that hotfixed or what is going on?

  • @NoobGamer-vs9yc
    @NoobGamer-vs9yc9 ай бұрын

    bro teach us how to do prot pala macro tnx

  • @therabbits69
    @therabbits69 Жыл бұрын

    I would never ever take improved devo. Mathematically the increase is so low that it makes no sense to not put it some place else.

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    Remember it increasing the healing everyone affected by aura receives as well. Besides what other choices are there? Reckoning? HoJ CD?

  • @therabbits69

    @therabbits69

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Costin_Gaming not saying do not use the aura. Im saying the points to it are a waste. The difference between the buffed and unbuffed is to small to even waste the point on. Especially when you can put it in reckoning which is simply a better choice all around. 5/5 reckoning is better dps, self healing, threat and survivability than improv devo. It just out classes it in every single facet. The difference between 3/5 reck and 5/5 reck is substantually noticible.

  • @danbill9165
    @danbill91652 жыл бұрын

    Any suggestions for pre patch weapon ? My raid group clears everything so have access to all content

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    Latest pvp weapon is your best option. After that it is, in order, Muramasa, Dragon Encrusted Longblade, Brutalizer.

  • @Willis05687

    @Willis05687

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Surefire11B Not to mention it will take you all of 1-2 hours of doing AV to get the honor needed for it.

  • @slimz2760
    @slimz27605 ай бұрын

    Anywhere to find this guy’s elvui copypasta? His ui looks fantastic and I would love to be able to use it myself.

  • @Chaldanas94
    @Chaldanas94 Жыл бұрын

    My question if your doing dungeons do you go seal of command?

  • @monkehm

    @monkehm

    Жыл бұрын

    Command is for cleave damage on multiple targets, so why wouldn't you?

  • @sydpolsfisk
    @sydpolsfisk2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! What are your thought on Proffessions? Any proff that is preffered? cheers!

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    JC is BiS by far. After that I recommend Engineering for the versatility it affords a tank and the glove enchant. If not Eng you could go BS for some early pre raid BiS and a couple sockets.

  • @sydpolsfisk

    @sydpolsfisk

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Surefire11B cheers. Ye my plan atm is to start with engi and go engi+jc for ulduar since i doubt P1 Will be challenging. If it is, ill get jc earlier. Got mats for 1-375 waiting

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    @@sydpolsfisk JC is best to have early since Monarch Crab will be your BiS trinket until Ulduar. Most of the engineering benefits can wait until Ulduar probably if you're saying you are only leveling one professsion first.

  • @bobomp6872
    @bobomp6872 Жыл бұрын

    Nice. Can u maybe Link ur Elvui string? :O

  • @tulio5990
    @tulio5990 Жыл бұрын

    Cooldowns?

  • @CherryflavorINC
    @CherryflavorINC2 жыл бұрын

    Great Video! any chance you will do something similiar with prot warrirors? Or atleast make a video about the block-set (for anub)?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Block Set certainly, dunno about prot warrior guide.

  • @VinceViglione
    @VinceViglione2 жыл бұрын

    Seal of Command is way too good to skip. The idea of taking 1% crit over the insane flexibility and AoE threat and potentially mana regen that Seal of Command brings is absurd. Thinking that boss threat is all that matters to a prot paladin is just wild to me. We will see in a few months!

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well Vince you gotta remember that Trash is far less relevant in Wrath ( besides Naxx 2.0 ) and single target threat can be insane.

  • @VinceViglione

    @VinceViglione

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Costin_Gaming that’s fair. We will see!

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    OP is correct. Skipping Seal of Command is complete troll until T9. Seal of Command will be one of your top damage abilities for total raid contribution through the first couple of phases. Do NOT skip this.

  • @HarrDarr

    @HarrDarr

    Жыл бұрын

    we saw immediately on the beta and with current sims that no tank will have threat issues even in the most conservative mitigation gear for t7, similarily looking like t8 will be the same

  • @nightcedargarden

    @nightcedargarden

    Жыл бұрын

    Seal of command are tanking is so fun :D

  • @icebirdmail
    @icebirdmail2 жыл бұрын

    The "PROT PALADINS HAVE NO ROTATIONS" argument felt a bit over the top, especially because you'll find yourself in a rotation whether you plan to or not. Prot paladins don't have inconsistent resource generate like warriors with rage, or random procs like ret paladins with Art of War. Your 5 primary abilities either have 6 second cooldown (HoR, SoR) or 8-10 second cooldowns (Holy Shield, Judgment, Consecrate). You can hit one of those abilities every global cooldown. I presume the rant was against the "9-6-9" rotation suggested by some guides where you alternate the 6 second cooldown abilities with the 10 second ones. But in practice I'm not sure that's too much different from "HoR-SoR-Filler-Filler-Repeat". You're still hitting Hammer and Shield every 6 seconds on cooldown, and you're still using whichever 10 second ability is coming off cooldown. The only randomness would come from needing to use other abilties: Avenger's Shield, Hand abilities, defensive cooldowns etc etc.

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    You will to a degree but at the same you should not view as a rotation but as a priority list. Also yeah the rant was against the many many guides and people who say 9-6-9.

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    969 is not stated to create a hard rotation. It's something you use during lulls to maximize threat. Any thinking player INCLUDING those that "came up" with 969 understand that you will deviate from it as necessary for opener snap threat and situations that come up in the fight. But whenever you CAN you should be using 969.

  • @saetia2724
    @saetia27247 ай бұрын

    Im just here grinning at people putting down the 969 rotation in the comments while having 100's on WCL using it 😂

  • @ElVixe
    @ElVixe Жыл бұрын

    Cool af but now share us your UI

  • @Brownboy42069
    @Brownboy420692 жыл бұрын

    Wait, that's actually how Ardent Defender works? A single hit that would kill you is split into [damage above 35%] + [damage below 35% * 0.8] And not just [entire hit * 0.8] ?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it's not 0.8 for the entire hit, that would be too strong The official patch logs reflect what I said in this video.

  • @Brownboy42069

    @Brownboy42069

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Costin_Gaming that’s really interesting, thanks for sharing all of this info!

  • @travisfulgham9998
    @travisfulgham99982 жыл бұрын

    A big oversight... Why would you ignore the talent Sanctity of Battle and favor Conviction..? Sanc of Battle gives the same crit + exo damage, yet you literally never mention it. Not once. You're already spec'd into Crusade, so the talent is unlocked. Just... Move your mouse down a tad lmao

  • @quantaloop4002
    @quantaloop40024 ай бұрын

    Who is Kungen

  • @jamessikaris9288
    @jamessikaris92882 жыл бұрын

    Top video! I do have one question though. What blessings do you use when leveling? Is sanctuary always the choice or does kings come into be an option ever?

  • @doltonnoak2656

    @doltonnoak2656

    2 жыл бұрын

    i personally find wisdom the best one since it will allow you to go on longer without having to drink/eat until you get to sanctuary. Then you should always use sanctuary for the dmg reduction and mana. And you still get 10% stam/str from it so kings becomes kidna useless for solo.

  • @jamessikaris9288

    @jamessikaris9288

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@doltonnoak2656 mate many many thanks, that makes complete sense to me!

  • @bartok1378

    @bartok1378

    2 жыл бұрын

    You shouldn't level as tank you should level as ret then swap at 80 or go dual spec.

  • @jamessikaris9288

    @jamessikaris9288

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bartok1378 I might swap at early 60s just to get a feel for the spec.

  • @bartok1378

    @bartok1378

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jamessikaris9288 honestly there really isn't a need to. You will run so many normal and heroic dungeons at lvl 70 for starting gear that you don't have to worry about that. Practice training on the dummies and then just have your taunts and hand of spells keybonded so you can quickly use them.

  • @tddimer
    @tddimer8 ай бұрын

    should you get any haste?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    8 ай бұрын

    No, expertise, hit and block value are what you get for threat.

  • @Rambo007-_-
    @Rambo007-_-2 жыл бұрын

    One thing to criticize about the video ….. your teaching people about the basics of tanking but you have all these addons and weak auras on screen maybe keep it vanilla to teach so we get the basics the screen is so confusing and I don’t get it ….. just something to think about do guide via vanilla setting

  • @Sumoboi1
    @Sumoboi12 жыл бұрын

    the irony of you offtanking in most of the video of a "main tank" guide is funny

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bit of a bizarre statement. The only thing I am actually off-tanking here is the adds in P1 on Lich King, since Paladins are inherently superior to a Druid for that job. The rest of Lich King and Assembly of Iron I am Main Tanking. Typically in Wrath there's 2 main tanks, and 1-2 Off-Tanks. Off-Tanks are people with Dual Spec. The Off-Tanks are there for when a Main Tank is MIA or in very specific situations where a certain class might be useful: Like Freya, Vezax, Anub.

  • @lolohilden
    @lolohilden Жыл бұрын

    wtf i cant find Seal of Vengeance

  • @AnnihilatorCZ

    @AnnihilatorCZ

    Жыл бұрын

    Found it yet? I think you're looking for Seal of Corruption.

  • @brandonkruse6412
    @brandonkruse64122 жыл бұрын

    One helpful tip I can add for tanking in general in Wrath is to keep a stack of multiple glyphs in your bags. For example, as a DK tank, if you’re tanking dungeons or raid adds, you want glyph of Death and Decay. But if you’re only doing single target, something like Vampiric Blood or Rune Tap can be swapped if you don’t need the AoE threat.

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah for Palas might be good to have a glyph of Hammer of the Righteous if you're AoE tanking.

  • @brandonkruse6412

    @brandonkruse6412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Costin_Gaming Yep! Paladins are generally better at picking up AoE threat than DK, though if you have rogue + hunter (which you should in every raid) they can ToT/MD + aoe snap the threat to you. I also can’t stress how important it is to have a secondary dps talent tree and gear set. There are some fights in ICC and Ulduar where on my DK I will use my tank gear with my DPS talents as the backup tank when solo tanking is possible, but it’s good to have a second player on standby with tank gear in case the MT goes down. That way you can do some damage but still have your defense cap/stamina armor and trinkets in case of emergency. Bear Druids are very useful for these situations as they can swap in between bear/cat without changing gear.

  • @brandonkruse6412

    @brandonkruse6412

    2 жыл бұрын

    btw man, I enjoy your videos and hope you keep putting them out. If you ever want to have a chat on discord for a video about tanking tips, gear and little strategies for ICC and ToGC, I feel like I can offer some helpful info. Once you get into ICC and RS, you have to start thinking about things like expertise (how much you need without trading off too much stamina) and magic resist for bosses like Sindragosa, Halion, Lich King and even early fire resist for doing Ulduar hard modes.

  • @idliketorant9147

    @idliketorant9147

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh there is dual spec tf you mean keep glyphs in ur bag lol.

  • @brandonkruse6412

    @brandonkruse6412

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@idliketorant9147 because dual spec is intended to have two separate specs, in case your guild needs you to swap from tank/heal to dps for flexibility, or via-versa. You keep extra glyphs in your bag for different situations, though. If you’re the boss MT in your raid, you won’t need glyphs like Death & Decay, but if you’re going to be running dungeon or tanking trash adds, you will need it for the extra threat against AoE packs. The same applies for most other specs. Let’s use Rogue as an example: Say, you’re going to be farming Ashen Verdict rep for a couple of hours to get your exalted BiS ring. You will want glyphs such as Tricks of the Trade, Killing Spree and Fan of Knives because you’re constantly killing trash packs and helping the tank gain AoE threat. If you’re running primarily raids such as ToGC, VoA, Ruby Sanctum and Ulduar, where trash and AoE is very low, you won’t need Fan of Knives, and instead use Sinister Strike glyph. This usually applies to all specs in the game, I can’t think of one spec that keeps the same set of glyphs and talents 100% through Wrath, except maybe Unholy DK because the setup is tight and the class doesn’t change much through Wrath. Certain glyphs will be a tad expensive early on but once more people start leveling inscription, there will be an abundance of glyphs and honestly, Inscription/Herb is the best starter professions you can take because it fill a market that applies to everyone + crafting Dark Moon Cards will net huge profit if you start the grind early.

  • @Nexiusify
    @Nexiusify2 жыл бұрын

    I used to main prot paladin in wrath

  • @niksana5
    @niksana5 Жыл бұрын

    I love your Elvui, can u share the profile pls ^^

  • @Dernekification
    @Dernekification2 жыл бұрын

    You already stated in the title that you have fuck all clue about wrath. Protpal is the go to OT.

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    The Pala is both the MT and OT. You know synergy of Hand of Sacrifice for extra survival.

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    Prot Pal is the go to tank. Period. Most try hard guilds will likely be running two Prot Paladins in Wrath.

  • @hglbrg
    @hglbrg2 жыл бұрын

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  • @hhattonaom9729
    @hhattonaom97292 жыл бұрын

    do people really enjoy playing this game with that much addon crap all over their screens? seems really unnecessary and has always looked stupid to me.

  • @scienceacademynotcangivena8736

    @scienceacademynotcangivena8736

    2 жыл бұрын

    costing protection racist game is lie propaganda to force players to kill nations. What is nation? Humans born without nationality, born without fascism, nationalization in childhood make them. False value, false enemy, false nation definition make false enemy, destroy value of life. Nationalist kleptocracy created fa. Support nationalists kleptocracy, participate in war crime. Wikipedia false nation definition changed always. They kill for nation, they not know what nation is. Not can distinguish between race and nation. Reward for worsening is kleptocracy support, steal reward system. Golden toilet marauder economy, kill and loot. Many program errors. Big cost in money and time. Booze alcohol chemical addiction for children. Killing for religion of peace, ten commandments. Sacred satan religion war godless church. False race definition, false nation definition, make players to kill nations, made fa. Overpopulation family values.

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    Sure do. It's quite nice.

  • @anonymouswv101
    @anonymouswv101 Жыл бұрын

    almost 5 minutes in and this man hasnt said 1 useful piece of information i cant watch this. This the kinda guy to talk for an hour before you even get to play the dang raid lol

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    Жыл бұрын

    5 mins and I've told you the most important stuff.

  • @14another
    @14another2 жыл бұрын

    Why you stop making politics videos?

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Less views, less ad revenue. Also Ukraine is a grinding war of attrition at the moment.

  • @idliketorant9147
    @idliketorant91472 жыл бұрын

    bruh paladin tanking needs a 44 min vid? ... Keep sac shield up, judge, use blessings accordingly, use raid cd when raid lead calls for it hit avengers shield consecrate. Boom done ezpz collect loot. I guess for new players maybe you would need a guide but still 44 mins seems a bit long for quite literally the easiest tank to tank on in Wrath.

  • @exogladu8743
    @exogladu8743 Жыл бұрын

    Too much word soup is my only issue with this guide. Spend less time saying stuff and just get down to the business either way dont stop mate.

  • @kriscotter8545
    @kriscotter85452 жыл бұрын

    Question, do you go with a slower weapon now since hammer of righteous scales from weapon damage. ??

  • @Costin_Gaming

    @Costin_Gaming

    2 жыл бұрын

    Weapon DPS so go with the highest Weapon DPS. A slower weapon will benefit Seal of Vengeance though.

  • @Bronimin

    @Bronimin

    2 жыл бұрын

    At the start it doesn't matter much, shield slam does so much threat. Later on though you can get a dps mainhand and put it on when you don't need the def stats of a real tank mainhand

  • @Surefire11B

    @Surefire11B

    Жыл бұрын

    The min-max thing to do is have a fast weapon for stacking Seal of Vengeance, then swap to a slow weapon once stacked for a decent increase in direct Vengeance damage.

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