The downside for Taiwan of the porcupine strategy is the cheaper missiles only work in close ranges. For example the Javelin is good for about 2.5 KM (public info). This means mainland forces have already landed on Taiwan or are about to. I would think Taiwan doesn't want the mainland forces to ever get that close. The US may wish Taiwan would drag mainland forces into urban warfare. But nobody in their right mind wants an urban warfare in their own home town.

@Chemicalkinetics

7 ай бұрын

Taiwan may not want to, but the other strategy will no longer work because Taiwan can never match China in term of ship-for-ship, tank-for-tank. China has at least 10X more large military weapons than Taiwan.

@DontUputThatEvilOnMe

7 ай бұрын

They also have harpoon missiles for anti ship those are fairly long range.

@user-tf1qd5kg1b

7 ай бұрын

but kids in taiwan will😢

@snarky5341

6 ай бұрын

Taiwan should surrender.

@louisd6410

6 ай бұрын

Yes, it shows Taiwan is just a chess piece for USA

Awesome video. As a Taiwanese person, I hope that some day soon, the world can see Taiwan as the wonderful place that it is, instead of just an anti-China talking point. In the mean time, thank you for shining a light on us!

@Nitrocrazy101

8 ай бұрын

tho it looks like we dont need u guys, we definitely need u people

@ellenripley4837

8 ай бұрын

Taiwan seems like a wonderful place to visit. It's on my list. Hopefully you will remain independent.

@BlueHawkPictures17

8 ай бұрын

It is a wonderful place ❤

@VictorYami

8 ай бұрын

@@tao2869lol no matter what regime falls, nothing will change, that is the nature of life

@Rightonrightoff

8 ай бұрын

No one cares about Taiwan. You will continue to be used as a tool to expand American hegemony. Taiwan’s only sole purpose is to be used by America to confront and neutralize the rise of China. A racist euro American world order is trying to ensure the utter and complete domination of the world by white people of European origin (with approved assistance by Asians and others.) Nothing more and nothing less.

The vox to independent KZreadr/journalist pipeline is producing amazing work, very inspiring!

@juanni166

7 ай бұрын

DUDE I WAS LIKE I KNOW THIS VOICE FROM SOMEWHERE

@littledudefromacrossthestr5755

7 ай бұрын

I knew his voice sound familiar

@littledudefromacrossthestr5755

7 ай бұрын

​@@juanni166same lol

@Cybersawz

6 ай бұрын

Top tier!

@levelazn

5 ай бұрын

It’s great cia content

Graphics are great in these videos, well done Sam!

I've missed your work Sam - so glad you're back. You and Atlas were always the very finest content that Vox ever produced. I'll never miss an upload.

I kept seeing how China will invade Taiwan and never how can Taiwan defend it's borders. So, its a nice thing to see another perspective in this issue

@farsiga2899

8 ай бұрын

Both U.S. Presidents Bush and Biden have said: "We will defend Taiwan" should China invade in 2027. Japan too has threatened military intervention against China with Japan's largest military build-up in over 75 years!

@TheLucidDreamer12

8 ай бұрын

Frankly, this is a no-one-wins position for every major party involved China either wins a completely destroyed island or loses a humiliating defeat Taiwan will be razed to the ground win or lose And America loses many advantages Taiwan would've offered intact in case of war with China and the bulk of its semiconductors And the whole world loses a major semiconductor supplier either way The best case still for all is that things stay the way it's been for decades

@1986fritzthecat

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheLucidDreamer12I mean, the best case is some sort of final diplomatic resolution to the 2 chinas where they can coexist

@jammaschan

8 ай бұрын

@@jeremyjackson7429 that's what China's trying to sell to Taiwan, but it's evidently not working when you look at Hong Kong. China just isn't willing to do two systems.

@haruyanto8085

7 ай бұрын

​@@jammaschanthey'll do it for a bit until they feel they have enough support or less resistance to enact on it

The battleship graphics are so good! Give your editors a raise

This is amazing, please make more videos like this like about Taiwan, keep this amazing work!

@Booz2020

7 ай бұрын

Slava TSMC 🇹🇼

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

This is not amazing. I'm not even sure this qualifies as surface level information.

Taiwanese here. Thanks for covering this.

@felisasininus1784

8 ай бұрын

​@@jacobl5488 hhhhh 😂 好样的

@felisasininus1784

8 ай бұрын

​@@jacobl5488 不知道同志你是那个部门的，我10年前开始是挑拨离间部的，现在是战恐局的（狗头）

@legokingtm9462

8 ай бұрын

China is number one

@felisasininus1784

8 ай бұрын

@@legokingtm9462 Thanks, though not yet. But don't need to be to reunite with Taiwan.

@serdavosseaworth6115

8 ай бұрын

@@legokingtm9462number one at intellectual property theft.

Really interesting stuff. Im always really stoked to see more. Have been busy lately but glad I finally got to watch this one as well :) Keep it up 👍

Very insightful keep up the good work search party

The Republic of China wasn't set up in 1949 after the Nationalists arrived in Taiwan. PRC was established in 1949. The Republic of China was established in 1912 with the 1911 Revolution (10/10/1911) led by Sun Yat-Sen, the first provisional president of the ROC and eternal Nationalist leader. The ROC (Taiwan) still celebrates October 10th as National Day. PRC observes October 10th as Xinhai Revolution anniversary but doesn't celebrate it as a public holiday. Just as a "historical event".

@julioduan7130

7 ай бұрын

He is deliberately misleading.

@felisasininus1784

7 ай бұрын

​@@julioduan7130 I think he just meant RoC as we know it for the longest time up to today. He doesn't strike me as a dishonest reporter. Unlike Johnny F**king Harris.

@nelsoncheng2674

7 ай бұрын

@@julioduan7130yes he is, he must have been influenced by the Taiwanese separatists. What a weak-minded KZreadr trying to twist history for narrative.

@jameschen2707

4 ай бұрын

100%!! His history lesson was totally wrong.

@scotttild

4 ай бұрын

I don't give a shi& what the history is. If the people of Taiwan want to be independent of China it is a fundamental human right. UK gave HK back to China because they had a treaty and were obligated to do so. HK could vote for independence and China would have no legal right to rule over it. Kings and Queens around the world are also illegitimate and have no bases or legal right to rule, heritage alone does not give them any right.

I love your work, Sam. Keep going. All the best.

Taiwan has the sixth largest fleet of F-16s & has 66 more on order

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

Yeah this video is not well researched at all.

@gamewadafak3655

3 күн бұрын

Most of f16 wont be in a operational state. Most of the fleet will be destroyed in the first minutes und mist of the military bases and airports too. So it’s irrelevant

Loving this channel. Thanks friends.

There's a lot more behind what weapons the US has sold and has not sold to Taiwan - your video paints a picture that US in the past has sold Taiwan most the advanced weaponry it requested, but that is simply not the case. In fact, US-to-Taiwan arms export track record is unique in many aspects due to the Taiwan Relations Act and this could have been explored more in this video. Few examples: M60A3 MBTs sold during the 80s and 90s were considered to be the last of its long lineage; the F-16s procured around the same time were old A/B variants; and Taiwan is most likely never going to be able to procure F-35s and will likely have to settle for the F-16Vs.

@Rock_Appreciator

8 ай бұрын

Well said. If the U.S. isn't directly involved in active combat, they will not be giving out top notch stuff. Even with the situation in Ukraine, many countries U.S. included, gave them hand-me-downs for equipment. It's extremely rare to see NA or EU handing out top notch gear, from what I have seen.

@Fractured_Unity

8 ай бұрын

The US would most likely have to formally enter an alliance again with Taiwan for them to get F35s. That’s why South Korea, Japan, Aus, and NZ get them even though they aren’t in NATO.

@felisasininus1784

7 ай бұрын

​@@Fractured_Unity Yeah.. Please do that. Lord knows Taiwan ain't the only ones that wanna get their mitts on some shiny F-35s. And lord only knows that we'd love to show those Anglo-Jewish c**ts what modern warfare reeeally looks like. 🤠🥴🥴 Sincerely and provocatively, Bureau of Tactical Intimidation, P.R. China

@dcc70

7 ай бұрын

I think US is being judicious in selling the latest generation weapons to Taiwan because the high likelihood of Chinese spy infiltration of the Taiwan military. A current KMT lawmaker was recently reported to have leaked details of the indigenous submarine to foreign agents.

@saosaqii5807

7 ай бұрын

@@Rock_Appreciatornone of the major weapons exporters, export their top notch stuff. No way that would happen. Not even Russia does it with their best S400 and S500 SAMissiles. The US isn’t exporting their best planes either with the F35. It’s actually the F22 which has better stealth capabilities which is why it’s not for sale.

Good job on all the videos so far 👏🏽

Great video, I have a nitpick which is you referred to battleships multiple times. A cursory research into modern navies would show, battleships became irrelevant in world war 2. You may be using the term in place of the more general “warships”, which nowadays is mostly destroyers and aircraft carriers. There is no such thing as a “modern battleship”.

@jamesholden5664

4 ай бұрын

Um we used a battle ship during the Gulf War with great effectiveness. They revamped and upgraded the Missouri. Ask the Dug in Iraqi troops how it felt when they were founded with 16inch guns.

@mouse3872

4 ай бұрын

​@@jamesholden5664that's true but that was also nearly 30 years ago and the Missouri has since been retired permanently with no plans to bring it back into service. And no modern Navy has any plans to design or build a Modern variant of Battleship.

@sebastien3351

3 ай бұрын

I think "combat ship" is a more general but, accurate term instead of battleship!

@nathanhenry2347

Ай бұрын

Also, the porcupine defense was created hundreds of years ago. Make attrition too great for your enemy to attack you has been a staple of geopolitics forever but this channel makes it sound like it was just invented by the US for Taiwan

These videos are so well made! The graphics, narration, and everything really.

Really love your videos! Please keep going! It's all about consistency

Amazing video. Keep up the good work

Johnny sent me here and I’m loving the videos! I know it’s a new channel so the content isn’t very streamlined yet, but it would be super awesome if we could get new videos more often than once every few weeks!

Loved your work, Sam. Keep us informed with your great work.

It will be interesting to see what might happen. Since Taipei prefers to cover all its bases, it may try to further develop its domestic advanced arms industry. Or if Taipei feels strongly enough, it may also try buying advanced weapons from other nations to fill the gap (like how Ukraine does). But, the latter would be incredibly controversial in Taiwan's case.

@yaya5tim

8 ай бұрын

It's been going for decades.... our former president Chen almost purchased Kilo class submarines from Russia back in 2000. We also tried buying weapons from countries like French, but it didn't work out well, plus US and China were all blocking our weapon trades, simply because US was having a honeymoon with China for the last 20 years. Then Trade War happens, US suddenly remembered they got Taiwan here, so they came and found out Taiwan is not well equipped, but they forgot they're the one that caused Taiwan buying no weapons. If US wants Taiwan as an ally, they need to show it, and for long term consistency and commitment. Even though now Taiwan feels US is really trying harder than before to help, but who knows when will US restricts Taiwan again because they're fine with China again?

@niweshlekhak9646

8 ай бұрын

@@yaya5tim you don't know the part of the Chinese-US honeymoon period involved no invasion of Taiwan. US was the country that helped Taiwan to grow it's tech sector for all that years.

@Commievn

8 ай бұрын

​@@alin1383 You are right. The doctrine at the time was similar vs Soviet Union. "Once they taste the freedom and wealth, they will never go back" It worked against the Soviet. However, Chinese civilization is different than Russia. Their pride of being the center of Asia or Eastern World for thousands of years, would never submit to Western ideology, let alone following Washington leadership.

@sinoroman

7 ай бұрын

if you have good strategies or tactics, it pretty much nullifies higher technology

@Booz2020

7 ай бұрын

Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾

The porcupine strategy sounds like an extension of the US' non-committal strategy. After watching this video, I am 100% certain Taiwan is on it's own and it would serve it's interests not to export the cutting edge of their semiconductor manufacturing to stay relevant and important enough to warrant intervention.

@sinoroman

7 ай бұрын

USA uses the island as a place to spy and potentially block China. The island is a US protectorate after all.

@felisasininus1784

7 ай бұрын

@@jeremyjackson7429 Like hell the US is going to allow Taiwan to continue developing chip tech outside of US soil. TSMC is not even in Taiwan anymore! ...what are y'all smokin'? Tide powder?

@Booz2020

7 ай бұрын

Slava 🇹🇼 Heroyam TAIWANese 🦾

@oaklandblocks

7 ай бұрын

Why do you think USA wants to build chip fab manufacturing? They know Taiwan is doomed.

@user-ng2nt7dg3w

7 ай бұрын

豪猪计划只会让台湾死得更惨烈，就像现在的以色列疯狂报复一样🤣

just wanted to add Turkey just approved Taiwan's acquisition of 100+ attack drones capable of firing multiple guided missiles

@kilowhiskey7973

8 күн бұрын

Turkey sucks

I've watched and enjoyed every search party video so far. They're on a hot streak 🔥

Man the production value of this video is spot on from the start.. nice work.

Hey, Search Party ☺ Could y'all add the transcript? Would be helpful for us English teachers using this material for our clients.

I absolutely love the content shared on the channel, but I understood that the channel initially was supposed to be oriented into sports journalism covering more of the history of sports related conflicts, scandals etc

Enjoying your videos, looking forward to seeing the next one!

Great graphics and explanation. Thank you!! I found your channel thanks to Johnny Harris ❤ keep up the good work 🎉🎉

As Taiwanese former military soldiers. This video it’s really useful by offering the US viewpoint on weapons purchases.

@robertedwards2959

2 ай бұрын

It's not even really the American viewpoint. It's just what some planners have thought at times.

Great video, hopefully we don’t see this invasion at all!

Wow! What simple way you explained a complex thing❤. Thanks

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

Not really. The sale of MH60R wasn't really "denied by America." We agreed to it in 2015. The Taiwanese military took 7 years to decide they wanted them and by that point the cost had risen to a point they couldn't afford them. The only thing keeping Taiwan from getting the gear they want is we prioritize Ukraine and the American military industrial complex is a shadow of what it used to be.

@hanve

3 ай бұрын

@@robertedwards2959 thank you

Love these insightful videos

Great content. Keep up the amazing work. Love what you do

@Search-Party

8 ай бұрын

Much appreciated!

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

It would be better content of they pointed out that Taiwan favored this style of defense for about 2 years from 2017-2019. Or that just in 2023 Taiwan bought over $1 billion worth of F-16 upgrades and weapons.

I want your editing skills🙌🏻

Awesome vid, you earned my sub!

Enjoyed this video

No country operates "Battleships", you meant warships most likely. I believe a hybrid strategy would work best, Chinas largest problem in an invasion is that it does not have the sealift capability to take Taiwan so any landing ship lost decreases the odds of success of any attempted landing.

@dailyrant4068

4 ай бұрын

Landing ships can be easily built... it's literally just a floating flat top. Look at their designs and you'd realize it's easy. They just chose to spend their money on more advanced platforms like type 75 because they no longer employ "human wave" tactics like they did back in the day. If the invasion was like 70 years ago, you'd be looking at fishing boats crossing, for real. Also, in emergency time they will summon all the civilian ships and cargo ships, carrying troops is not a problem

@ronaldhunt7617

4 ай бұрын

@@dailyrant4068 Right, but overlooking some key points. It takes time to build ships, and using civilian ships would mean bringing them in from whatever they were doing (they do have roll-on-roll-off ferries made to be used for that purpose). But if you do not think we watch shipyards or would notice this taking place you have not thought it through. You also do not want just a hull and a deck because the troop carriers are going to be a prime target. The normal calculation is 3-1 for attacking a defensive position but for an amphibious invasion against an enemy that has 75 years to dig in and fortify I would say 5-1 would be a bare minimum. You just do not need troops, you need supplies and equipment as well which goes up as time goes on while capacity goes down with ship losses and the need for reinforcements. China is not going to "sneak up" on Taiwan, they can not just decide to go tomorrow. It will take months to prepare, assemble, and then "go". Inchon took the US 6 months and that is with already having the ships, an unopposed landing, and LOTS of experience which means they would find Taiwan waiting and the US able to surge the Navy and Air Force into position, build coalitions, and fire a shot across the PRC's bow with threats of sanctions and blockades.

@robertedwards2959

4 ай бұрын

​@@dailyrant4068you're talking about landing craft which operate from ship to shore not across 100 miles of ocean 14:05 . There are lots of reasons for this, but they boil down to vulnerability and clogging up the approach to the limited number of viable beaches. Landing ships carry those landing craft. And China doesn't really have the amount of those it needs.

@dailyrant4068

4 ай бұрын

@@robertedwards2959but that’s my point. They don’t have enough because they don’t see the need for it. Of all the things they invest in, this is not the most technologically difficult or most expensive

@Xackory

3 ай бұрын

A warship is literally a type of battleship

I think the US government should learn from its failures of the Vietnam war. South Vietnam was armed with heavy and modern weapons but they were of no use without logistical support of the US. Small arms and ground weapons used by infantry and artillery need to be the focus here.

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

The world has changed a lot in the past 50 years.

@doujinflip

11 күн бұрын

The US already learned that. It's the Taiwanese government who needs to realize that they need to focus on fighting where its soldiers and partisans can walk themselves to.

Subscribed. Great reporting.

This account is the best thing I've found on KZread in the past 2 years or so.

@Search-Party

3 ай бұрын

thank you! welcome!

Man you qnd johny have somenof the most interesting and informative channels on KZread. Loved yall of vox love yall now. 👏

@user_thelongwayaround

8 ай бұрын

I think Johny is too dramatic.

@felisasininus1784

8 ай бұрын

I hope you don't mean Johnny Harris. Oh god. Westerners really are ......., aren't you. :(

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

Nothing about this video is factually informative. Nearly $2 billion in arms sales to Taiwan in 2023 and not one but of it was for "Porcupine Strategy" weapons.

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

​@@felisasininus1784well some of us listen to Peter Zeihan as if he actually knows anything. So yeah there's some stupid floating around.

From a Taiwanese studying in Singapore - your analysis is really spot on. While weapons for the porcupine strategy is essential to slow down an invasion, I think what we're trying to do now is to achieve a state of self sufficient national defense. We just made our first submarine and it's given the locals a lot more confidence in the capabilities of the military.

@Eric-ge5le

7 ай бұрын

破烂货 aip都没有 牛死了 俘获的价值都没有 直接炸沉

@chinarise

7 ай бұрын

看看地图，台湾还没有一个福建省大，这就是台湾问题的根源。 台湾太小了，同时中国太大了。视频把台湾比作豪猪，但这其实是非常不恰当的，按照台湾的经济体量、战斗实力、领土面积，它在中国面前就像老鼠一样。 开战之后，无论中国输赢， 台湾很大概率被夷为平地。台湾不敢，也不能跟中国发生军事冲突，所以台湾政客鼓吹的“发展军火，加强自身军事实力”， 完全只是因为他们想在军火贸易中获得利益。台湾在美国眼里像是一个弱化版的乌克兰，美国乐意通过不断出售军火来收割台湾的财富。台湾最正确的选择是发展半导体，加强与中国的经济联系，让中国攻打台湾后会遭受很大的经济损失。 就像上面的一个评论指出，台湾作为超级大国旁边的陆地航空母舰，自身的命运早已在诞生时就注定。一个小老鼠是否武装到牙齿，它在老虎面前都是随意蹂躏的对象。但是如果小老鼠帮助老虎运输来大量的奶酪，老虎就很乐意维持现状。这里的老虎既指的是中国，也指的是美国。

@vincentdesun

7 ай бұрын

Shanghai alone outbuilds taiwan by 10:1, not to mention the rest of China's military ports. China builds aircraft carriers faster than Taiwan does surbmarines.

@evilnet1

4 ай бұрын

@@chinarise Your reply seems the most realistic and most rational

@dr7193

4 ай бұрын

Yah, fortunately some confidence in the capabilities, not actual fire power. The key of national defence isn’t defending the people, is to make people believe they are defended.

Good work!

I'm looking forward to more of your vids!

I have a Taiwanese friend who was exempt from mandatory military service because of an injury. Now that tensions have built up over the past couple of years, they downgraded his injury to nullify the exemption. Now he’s fighting to not have to join and stay in the US. I really hope he doesn’t have to fight China😢

@maximipe

8 ай бұрын

I'm more worried about the US pulling out some bs casus belli than China

@ilbjork

8 ай бұрын

Well, it is his duty- if what you said was true.

@nocheapdopamine725

8 ай бұрын

@@ilbjork nominally, sure. Everything-else-lly, not really.

@oxvendivil442

8 ай бұрын

If he is Taiwanese and his elected government requires him to join in the meat grinder then it is his obligation to fight and die unless he be branded as a traitor and a coward, a shameful maggot, this is democracy, there are obligations to fulfill under it, a price for its perks.

@kelllakell

8 ай бұрын

As an American Idgaf, it's his duty and I'll be damned if a Taiwanese citizen is gonna sit in the US while we help them fight their war, it's his duty and he will fulfill it. Freedom isn't free.

Just saw this channel talked up by Johnny (like, a minute ago). Popped over here and "subscribed" totally based on his referral. Cheers mates- make hay!

@Search-Party

8 ай бұрын

Just texted Johnny "thanks"

Such a great video. Well done!

Excellent summary of the situation

When I visited Taiwan last summer, I asked my friends that I have known for over twenty years if they worried about a Chinese invasion. They seemed unsure if it would happen but resigned to helplessness if China did invade. They were envious of the fact that regular citizens in the US are allowed to own and train with firearms. If Taiwan would allow citizens to own firearms I am sure that many people would jump at the chance and that might help to deter China from invading. That would be a true porcupine strategy.

I watched the video now I'll rant One: You got alot of the military terminology wrong Two :The price of the F-16 fighter jet wrong Three: Their is more to the procupine strategy than "buy cheap weapons"

@niweshlekhak9646

8 ай бұрын

He put the price of F-16 of 1979, not 2023.

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

They missed that the Taiwanese Overall Defense Strategy only favored the Porcupine Defense for 2 years. And that America hasn't actually blocked any sales of weapons to Taiwan. We have almost $20 billion in backlogged contracts at this point.

Love your videos. Please keep them up

Love this channel, want more of it.

The problem with this video is that it fails to show the amount of time it would take to set up an invasion of that scale. A bombardment of Taiwan is useless if you don't have a large enough force for an amphibious attack. You can't assemble that many troops and ships without anyone knowing, the satellites will see every movement and it will take weeks if not months. This is the first sign of a serious invasion. US would have plenty of time to send aids. US carrier groups can arrive in days just like how they did with the current Middle East crisis.

I hope a beneficial solution gets reached. And China doesn’t decide to act before that happens.

@dexterdr.7020

8 ай бұрын

i've already lost track of how many years since people hyped about "China is invading Taiwan soon/next month/next year" beyond imaginations and war mongerings, in reality, major provocations have to take place to make it happen, such as Pelosi's visit or something worse, and my gut is telling me that some people are holding these provocation cards in hands and waiting to show deck

@VestnikPushkistan

8 ай бұрын

All normal people hope this

@sinoroman

7 ай бұрын

anything that reduces US influence in the region, I will support for the most part

@user-kn1oo1be4r

7 ай бұрын

The war was started by the United States. Isn't it enough that the United States provoked war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East? Now it wants to bring the war to East Asia?

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

​@@sinoromanwhy?

hey sam!!! have been watching since your vox days. and it is so so good to have you here on your channel!!!!!!!!! i never missed a video on vox and now i dont here. you are a genius

Happy 200K Subs!

@Search-Party

8 ай бұрын

🎉

Interesting video! I think the porcupine strategy is definitely the way to go for Taiwan

@trustandbelieve9173

8 ай бұрын

Whats one way a predator can kill a porcupine? Flip the little thing belly up ! Game over! China might have 1,000s of sleeper agents ready to cause havoc during an invasion.

@tomlu6820

8 ай бұрын

two ways china will counter this, using long distance artillery instead of missiles, making it cheaper than taiwanese counter measures. then, increasing its convensional and non conventional navy, so that it can win a confrontation with US, deter US interventuon.

@NoOneToNoOne89

8 ай бұрын

Exactly! Just like the castles of the medieval age that never got besieged! Oh. Wait a sec… It’s an island! Lol. Blow up the airports ports and surround it with land mines and ships. Then, make precision targeted strikes of critical infrastructure (energy and food). The country would be crippled in a month. Not an exaggeration or a joke. That’s exactly the strategy that would be needed as well: full scale mass blitzkrieg. No aide would be able to come in. All communication cut off. The US wouldn’t even be able to attempt a sort of “Berlin Airlift 2.0”. The world won’t know what hit them. Defeating Taiwan would actually be incredibly easy.

@mohamedhussein4124

8 ай бұрын

Cut off supplies 😂

@NoOneToNoOne89

8 ай бұрын

Humans are among the dumbest “smart” creatures.

If China were to invade the US Navy would be able to easily form a blockade in the Malacca Strait which would put the Chinese Economic Situation in even more dire straits (no pun intended).

@camu9721

8 ай бұрын

That is old news mate, after the Ukraine war started and sanctions applied on Russia, Russia and China are now bed buddies, with Russia supplying energy and food to China, you can no longer chock China with just blocking the Malacca Strait.

@NotFound-um6nr

5 ай бұрын

你认为我们的导弹都是模型😂

@AlphariusDominatus

2 ай бұрын

​@@NotFound-um6nryes. Filled with sea water 😂

Hey now, that was a really good analysis.

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

Not so much. They missed that Taiwan only favored this style of defense for 2 years. They missed that America still sells them billions of dollars worth of equipment every year that is the opposite of the "Porcupine Defense." They missed quite a bit more but even for surface level analysis this isn't great.

Great vids

I'm lucky to know about this channel. You and Johnny are a blessing. It's hard to express how much I appreciate and am enthralled by people like you guys who are so smart and talented and use your gifts to help educate and entertain on such a high level. It's so impressive and kind. Thank you.

@walkerpaulp6526

7 ай бұрын

What about Vox, for me Vox too

@Sataka23clips

7 ай бұрын

This channel is the same bs as johnny. Honestly Ukraine has admitted this week that they losing the war the porcupine strategy is a money laundering strategy

@SamLoveSharing

7 ай бұрын

The United States is provoking China's one-China principle and must pay a price! ! ! It would be perfect if China sold weapons to New York!

Love the analysis of the thinking behind both the US and Taiwanese leaders, but the title might be misleading as it isn't really what the video is trying to say. It's more about analyzing the different defense strategies and presented the pros and cons. Simply presenting the strategie and focusing on the rejected MH-60R sale doesn't really explain to the audience "why" Taiwan isn't ready for an invasion now.

@nelsoncheng2674

7 ай бұрын

Too bad he’s not going to listen

@user-kn1oo1be4r

7 ай бұрын

The war was started by the United States. Isn't it enough that the United States provoked war in Eastern Europe and the Middle East? Now it wants to bring the war to East Asia?

Good video again! I subbed 💙

That back ground drum beat is 🔥

This US strategy is flawed in the sense that: the idea of allowing PRC forces on TW ground (for all the Stingers/Javelins to start to have usefulness) means that the war is already lost. It's also a source of US-skepticism here in Taiwan, perceiving that the Americans are not truly helping to "prevent" the war, but rather are seeking to reap the benefit of destroying the PRC through a deep-ditch Taiwan theater should they invade (something we already effectively see with Russia in Ukraine). Occasional nitwits in the US proposing to destroy TSMC in case of PRC invasion certainly doesn't help to alleviate suspicions :P

@BSenta

5 ай бұрын

​@@jeremyjackson7429yeah TSMC shouldn't bring in their best factories into the US they should bring their low tech ones and use some of those US tax subsidies to build them.

@dailyrant4068

4 ай бұрын

It's not flawed though, it's based on realism. There is no way Taiwan can win any naval/air engagement. Even if we assume the weapon technology is equal, the sheer quantity of PRC will dominate. The only option is for US navy to proactively engage the same time.

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

​@@dailyrant4068 we're not assuming technology is equal. We're assuming that the Patriot system is just as effective against China as it is against Russia. We're assuming the second largest fleet of F16s in the world is more advanced (even using decades old tech) than China's "4th and 5th generation" fighters. Oh and those F16s are currently being upgraded. We're assuming HIMARS is going to put massive holes in China's sealift capacity. I can keep going, but you get the picture. Basically take everything this video says and throw it out the window.

@dailyrant4068

3 ай бұрын

@@robertedwards2959 all you have done is reinforced your beliefs with assumptions. It’s a joke to assume all these things when you don’t base it on anything factual. Why is decades old better? I’m not even arguing it 100% isn’t but the logical conclusion is their out dated tech (meaning no active phased array radar, older missiles with shorter range) isn’t as good as new Chinese tech. Bringing Russia into the picture is also a dumb move. Russia has always had horrible electronics, which is exactly where most Chinese copied jet improvements are made. I’ve yet to see a report that talks about Chinese radar and electronics not being near the top with American counterparts. If you were claiming F35 being more proven I would agree with you, but most of the stuff you said is non sense

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

@@dailyrant4068 sorry I shouldn't have posted that while half asleep. I kinda smashed my points together into an unrecognizable mess. Basically I was trying to say the "Porcupine Defense" only made sense 15 years ago because American hand me down tech was 2 generations or more ahead of Chinese equivalents. This and other reasons are why Taiwan doesn't really do "Porcupine Defense" and why America doesn't block weapons deals Taiwan can actually afford.

Great video! No hate but I just have 1 comment for clarity sake. You should use the word “warship” instead of “battleship.” “Warship” is a general term that means any ship with weapons for fighting in war. “Battleship” is a specific class of warships that rival aircraft carriers in size and have very large caliber main guns (like 15 inch shells) on huge turrets. Also notably, they are very heavily armored. The only battleships around today are museum ships. The ships that China and Taiwan have are absolutely not battleships and should not really be called as such. It really sticks out if you are familiar with the term. Again, just trying to help!

@Search-Party

8 ай бұрын

You're totally right. Thanks for the note!

This has been insightful

Awh sweet! Love the video! Subscribed ❤️

Please add sources discussed in the video for every video, it would be very helpful....great video btw

@robertedwards2959

3 ай бұрын

Google Taiwan Porcupine Strategy and skim the first half dozen articles. That's pretty much their source. Now Google America-Taiwan arms sale and you'll start to get a feel for what is actually happening.

@robertedwards2959

2 ай бұрын

He'd actually have research and use sources to do that.

Your composers need a raise man. Crazy good job with the music!

I hate this logic. “You aren’t doing enough to prepare, so we’re going to make it harder for you to prepare.”

I'm from Honduras currently living in Taiwan and this war thing do concern me. Thank you for the video 😊

@ruifenghuang1029

6 ай бұрын

It's gonna be military coup

The key word for the cause of this “flaw” in Taiwan’s defense strategy is said near the end of this clip: that unless the U.S. promises it would help Taiwan, then Taiwan would continue to feel the needs to buy those expensive weapons. But then again, the U.S. will not articulate such position so as not to aggravate China.

Only issue with the porcupine strategy is "if" the US will come and help. The ambiguity allows US to say "uh yeah.. no thank you" still. Taiwan should still diversify with more advance weapons.

Very good quality

Excellent video.

In this big, beautiful world, in the end, it seems that all we know is war, violence, and greed

@ironboy3245

8 ай бұрын

Nothing has changed since the stone age except the scale of conflict

@felisasininus1784

8 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wonder which countries have been the most warmongering through the ages. According to many pathetic brainlets, it's gotta be China, right?

@rowluna6400

2 ай бұрын

Tell that to Ch!na.

@ShyWeirdo-td5bu

Ай бұрын

Well, you are watching a video on geopolitics. If you don't want to see this, watch something else.

@philipwilliamson5332

Ай бұрын

@ShyWeirdo-td5bu thanks for consistently being weirdo, rather than understanding the reason behind my comment 🙏🏿

I think the assumption of this video that the porcupine strategy is the "correct" strategy in the defence of a Chinese invasion is perhaps flawed. It's drawing the conclusion that similar strategy has worked in Ukraine. However, just a couple of points to consider: 1. The Russo-Ukrainian war is a land war, one can literally walk from Moscow to Kyiv, if one chooses to. But Taiwan is an island, with unfavourable weather conditions, an invasion could only take place during certain time of the year, hence a hybrid strategy may work better for Taiwan? 2. The assumption that size is might - bigger its military more powerful it is. Yes, the PLA has more fire power to throw at Taiwan, but the quality and effectiveness of their weapons is questionable. Again, just look at the war in Ukraine, bigger Russian army = more effective in executing a war??? One final thought, if porcupine strategy is so successful in Ukraine, why has President Zelensky been going all over US/Europe asking for F16s and long range missiles. P.S. I'm no military expert, these are just personal observations. As a Taiwanese, international attention on what's happening here is always welcome. But in this case an oversimplication of the matter, with a provocative heading is probably rather counter-productive. Nevertheless, thank you for shining a light on the situation. 🙂

@johnnyissuper6955

7 ай бұрын

You make no sense, why would Taiwan being an island make porcupine strat less effective? Also yes size is not everything, but it still matters a lot. You’re also assuming that Chinese equipment is second grade but you have no sources to support that claim. Just because russias equipment is bad doesn’t mean that chinas equipment is bad.

@dcc70

7 ай бұрын

In any conventional conflict over Taiwan, there's no outcome that doesn't leave Taiwan in smoking ruins. Taiwan should learn from North Korea and develop a nuclear weapon as the ultimate deterrent. Is anyone threatening to invade North Korea?

@johnnyissuper6955

7 ай бұрын

@@dcc70"should learn from NK and aquire nuclear weapons" same energy as "just get rich bro"

@dcc70

7 ай бұрын

@@johnnyissuper6955 if Pakistan can do it, why not Taiwan?

@johnnyissuper6955

7 ай бұрын

@@dcc70Pakistan doesn't abide by international laws so they've been researching nukes for a long time before acquiring them. Taiwan has never focused on developing nukes because they follow US's orders. They can't just suddenly make nukes because nuclear research takes time. Iran has tried devleoping nukes for many years but still could not do it, because it's a difficult task. It's also very difficult to become a nuclear state nowadays because other nuclear powers don't want more countries getting nukes, adding another obstacle. NK was able to get nukes after getting sanctioned to oblivion. Iran got the same treatment just for trying. USA may not mind, but china, russia, and other nuclear powers certainly will mind, taiwan's nuclear research will be pretext for sanctions/ even more aggression from China.

Interesting stuff

Would yall mind doing a video on the chip manufacturer TSMC? I think it would be fascinating in your format.

Would be interesting to get the perspective of what Korea or Japan would do if China attacks. Would they be neutral or take a side?

@zanaduz2018

8 ай бұрын

SK and Japan are almost certainly going to take Taiwan’s side: if the PRC annexes Taiwan, military positioning there gives China a commanding position across the maritime trade routes that those two countries are vitally dependent upon economically.

@matthewlipton2998

8 ай бұрын

They won't be neutral but they won't join any conflict. 100%.

@giganigga9624

8 ай бұрын

Japan will certainly join . Matter of fact , Japan would be the first to help defend the island. This in turn will drag the US into helping Japan defend Taiwan as the US is obligated to defend Japan in exchange to give up nukes back in WW2. Japan has the leverage here and China knows it

@user_thelongwayaround

8 ай бұрын

In war games, the Taiwan strait is vital to Japan so they intervene every single time. On the other side, SK is much reluctant but they are still on the American side because they fear that if something happens on the Korean Peninsula others won’t help.

@canine555

8 ай бұрын

Neither S. Korea or Japan would get involved militarily. Period. Why would Korea and Japan risk getting militarily and economically destroyed for the sake of a civil war.

The main issue is that the Taiwanese Chinese will fight only under the condition of defended by the US, or they won't care to fight for independence. Independence is a western idea, Chinese prefer peace and prosperity.

@Xackory

3 ай бұрын

Yeah ur stupid if you think they won’t fight

Excellent video!

It’s ridiculously difficult to launch an amphibious assault on an island nation that has modern military equipment that both expects it - and sees you coming. Particularly if the attacker has no military experience of an operation like that. That’s not mentioning a global response. China understands that completely.

@trustandbelieve9173

8 ай бұрын

All they have to do is blockade them, they wont invade

@minhhuytruong8667

8 ай бұрын

"sees you coming" Yeah, there is this thing called "boiling the frog" which says that if a frog is put in tepid water, it will not perceive the danger and will be cooked to death when the pot boils. China is doing the same with Taiwan by increasing its incursions into the area until it becomes the norm. Beijing could always turn a "live firing exercise" into a naval blockade with the only warning of an invasion being Chinese rocket batteries opening fire on HVTs.

@elvenarcher1754

8 ай бұрын

China doesn't have to attempt an amphibious invasion though, cause in a few years' time it will have a sufficient navy to take over Taiwan's ADIZ (inspecting every ship that passes the Taiwan Strait, one step before a full-fledged blockade). This puts the ball in Taiwan's court and force it to scramble its jets and submarines to bomb PLA battleships, drawing them out into the open for China to destroy. Any Taiwanese attempt to strike mainland targets i.e. using cruise missiles will be considered a disproportionate response and act of war, mobilizing popular support within the mainland.

@xhy12

8 ай бұрын

⁠@@elvenarcher1754Amphibious assault will always be necessary at some point to gain control, that's why every Chinese simulation included this feature. Naval blockade does not automatically become easier with a larger navy, considering 3 new US naval bases will also be functioning in PH in a few years and Taiwan has an undisclosed number of Hsiung Feng missles which after launching hovers meters above the sea surface, plenty useful to strike any battleship without even needing to deploy jets or land2sea, air2sea weaponry

@Hilts931

8 ай бұрын

@@minhhuytruong8667 200,000 Chinese troops boarding landing craft will indeed be seen before they even get underway.

I’m waiting for the Johnny Harris x Search Party Espionage Story because I think it’d be awesome! Edit: I was talking about fiction writing btw

@Search-Party

8 ай бұрын

👀

@PokhrajRoy.

8 ай бұрын

@@Search-Party I was referring to fiction lol

@Search-Party

8 ай бұрын

I'm down @@PokhrajRoy.

@PokhrajRoy.

8 ай бұрын

@@Search-Party Yes!

Great content!!!

New sub . Well done brother

Yeah, explained it quite ok but I think videos like this also make it seem like an invasion is imminent and Taiwanese people are freaked out. This is not the case. I have been in living in Taiwan for over three years and the general consensus is that an invasion will not happen, simply because the (economic) losses for China would be too great and the benefit too small. Furthermore, China can use Taiwan as an "enemy" to reunite the people in the mainland. It makes more sense for any Chinese leader to keep the status quo regarding Taiwan. And next time remember to put in some shots of what Taiwan actually looks like, its beautiful. :-)

@lolo-jx8qd

7 ай бұрын

Taiwanese opinion is delusionally wrong. Not surprising given how they have been indoctrinated by the regime that the people overthrew.

@seneca983

7 ай бұрын

"because the (economic) losses for China would be too great and the benefit too small" While I don't think invasion is that likely, I don't think this is such a reliable line of reasoning. Same could be argued about Russia and Ukraine but an invasion still happened.

@lolo-jx8qd

7 ай бұрын

@@seneca983 This isn't about economic loss or benefit. This about defending China's sovereignty and territorial integrity. Taiwan is part of China. Period. Secondly, it's also about respecting the will of the Chinese people. In 1949, Chinese people overthrew their government but that government has been propped up illegally by the USA in Taiwan province ever since. This is a direct violation of China's sovereignty and rule of the people. A regime that the people overthrew has no right to govern anything and must be eliminated. It is wrong and illegal to have a foreign backed overthrown regime on China's territory. China is not going to invade Taiwan. China will liberate Taiwan.

@seneca983

7 ай бұрын

@@lolo-jx8qd "This isn't about economic loss or benefit." Why are you telling me this. It was OP (Palinourios) who made the economic argument, not me. "China will liberate Taiwan." The people in Taiwan clearly do not want to be lorded over by the Chinese Communist Party. It would be morally wrong for the CCP to impose their rule on Taiwan by using violence.

@vlhc4642

7 ай бұрын

Well make sure you communicate that consensus to China, because it's coming. As for economic loses, maybe you should ask yourself, is it Beijing control of Taiwan that causes economic loses, or is it America trying to stop China that carry the economic loses. How much economic loses will there be, if America tells you to surrender, which you do, PLA walks in through Taipei, Tsai gets arrested, and then everyone goes back to business as usual? Alternatively, ask yourself, will the economic loses to the United States be greater if Taiwan gets taken over while they stay on trading terms with China, or will the loses be greater if they go to war with China directly.

The US bears a responsibility to aid in the defense of democratic and peace-loving Taiwan against any attack by the aggressive and authoritarian Beijing regime. This duty is particularly significant in light of historical events, such as the U.S. intervention that led to Taiwan's abandonment of its nuclear weapon programs on two occasions, notably in the 1980s just before Taiwan could successfully develop one.

@nromk

8 ай бұрын

The USA has no responsibility to a big mistake that is taking another country's territory. It took Mexican and Colombiaian territory for westward expansion and for The Panama Canal and what does the USA want with Taiwan? It wants to continue its Westward Expansion. Guam, The Northern Mariana Islands, America Soma and Hawaii aren't enough, the USA won't be happy until it has secured the biggest joke in its history. There are more useful things that the USA could be doing. It could give its own people money, instead the USA is acting as if we're in the 1800s and everyone can just take a slice of China.

@Commievn

8 ай бұрын

If Taiwan has nuke, China wouldn't dare to invade. Too bad, the Sino-U.S alliance to combat the Soviet was more urgent...

@wanqianliao

7 ай бұрын

why？ because US is your father？

Nice work there.

Nobody buys battleships.

The porcupine strategy is actually brilliant. Much cheaper and more cost effective. Vivek Ramaswamy, a President hopeful even proposed that Taiwan's constitution should consider "U.S 2nd admendment-style" to deterrent Chinese invasion. Imagine every Taiwanese household with firearm(s) Even if CCP manage to invade Taiwan successfully. Occupying will be hazard.

@dr7193

4 ай бұрын

Yah, the only flaw being, you are not that Taiwanese household, and you don’t see people dying for it. Perhaps in the future, people pray and mourn online and thats it.

@robertedwards2959

2 ай бұрын

If America would commit to protecting Taiwan then maybe. Even then it's not great in most situations. Probably why Taiwan doesn't use the Porcupine Strategy and even when they did still bout billions dollars worth of conventional weapon systems.

I love Taiwan so dam clean and the food their is amazing. I’ll be honest, defending the island is way more important then defending Ukraine, first off it’s chip manufacturing capabilities something everyone needs.

@felisasininus1784

8 ай бұрын

Don't worry about it, the whole lot of TSMC has already been moved to the United States. And the company is just about completely sucked dry by American competition, as ordained by the benevolent US government.

@genuinennessbefitting4734

7 ай бұрын

@@felisasininus1784 Due to the failure of the United States to suppress Taiwan's technology in 2002, EUV was successfully developed in Taiwan, and the era of artificial intelligence began. In 2022, two Japanese companies, Nikon and Canon, will monopolize the global lithography equipment market. At that time, ASML was still a tiny company surviving on orders from TSMC. Intel established the EUV LCC Alliance to develop lithography machines using American dry methods and adopt American lithography machine technology. Major manufacturers such as Motorola, AMD, and IBM were allowed to join the alliance, but TSMC was excluded from the EUV LCC alliance. Subsequently, TSMC cooperated with ASML and used the immersion lithography technology developed by TSMC to conduct research and development at F12B, the TSMC R&D headquarters located in Hsinchu Science Park, Taiwan. There were two EUV R&D units worldwide at that time, but the Intel EUV LCC alliance failed. TSMC spent 1 million wafers in testing at the F12b wafer fab and finally successfully created EUV to produce advanced chips. The United States has not invested a dime in the research and development of modern EUV, and not a single American engineer is involved in research and development. Immersion lithography technology is TSMC’s technology. If the United States did not have Taiwanese technology and Nvidia was founded by Taiwanese, could the United States still become a world hegemon?

This is amazing, please make more videos like this about Bangladesh & Myanmar, keep up this amazing work!

I feel like the interview portions in the first half of the video were too short. Them being only half a sentence or so removed any context from the statement. It would also be good if you linked a sources doc in the video description + mentioned the sources on screen

Imagine having a nuclear war with the second largest country in the world because of an island that has nothing to do with you.