The Symbolism of Eda's Curse in The Owl House

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The Owl House is a great show that covers complex subjects and helps to represent under represented groups of people. Today, I wanted to talk a little bit about how Eda The Owl Lady's curse is an allegory for mental illness. If you think that sounds a little like it's out of left field, please watch until the end of the video to see if I can change your mind! What did you get out of the episode "Keeping Up A-Fear-Ances"? #TheOwlHouse #TOH
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0:00 - Introduction
1:55 - Quick Recap
3:47 - Receiving The Curse
8:01 - Agitating The Curse
10:51 - Curse VS Mental Illness
16:52 - Conclusion
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  • @TheRoomforImprovement
    @TheRoomforImprovement2 жыл бұрын

    When eda said “I have a right to be upset!” I felt that.

  • @lazer_kat_4673

    @lazer_kat_4673

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's me whenever I get really upset and someone just says "stop crying". Like, bish how tf am I supposed to do that?

  • @littlemurdermachine6646

    @littlemurdermachine6646

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@lazer_kat_4673 I hate it when people tell me not to show my emotions. Well I'm so sorry my emotions makes you uncomfortable and annoyed 😒

  • @swordpegasus4032

    @swordpegasus4032

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sameeee eda is my favourite character.😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀🤗😀😀🤗😀🤗😀

  • @h0pechild186

    @h0pechild186

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah my sister has a right to be upset too

  • @bakedpotato5037

    @bakedpotato5037

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah lots of us can relate to this sadly

  • @cornfusedsnow5687
    @cornfusedsnow56872 жыл бұрын

    When i heard the line "Noone likes having a curse, but if you take the right steps...its manageable.," i IMMEDIATELY associated it with my depression. Im so glad someone else is seeing this association, and props to the phenomenal writers for doing this so well!

  • @sabreman8546

    @sabreman8546

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh same. I heard that line and went "Oh so THAT'S what it's an allegory for."

  • @KrystalTwilight

    @KrystalTwilight

    2 жыл бұрын

    I associated it to my tumor. I cant get rid of it, but I can manage. It hit hard xp

  • @wowsports8800

    @wowsports8800

    2 жыл бұрын

    SAME! I literally said "oh it's like me with my antidepressants!"

  • @lillysparrow

    @lillysparrow

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@wowsports8800 I feel so out of whack recently My family members and I were going to move, but situations with Corona and stuff have made it increasingly more difficult everyday And therapy is not an option anymore because my mom still is saying we're going to move! It's been a month or so already, and to me it clearly is just a pipe dream. I'm so sick of her dominating my life just because of her personal experience with depression!

  • @konysa3641

    @konysa3641

    2 жыл бұрын

    I totally loved that line too, except I thought of it as an STD. I thought it was absolutely perfect, especially as it was implied Eda was cursed when she was younger. Yes some STD's can be cured, but many are lifelong, and it was so nice to see it being de-stigmatized, as it's not like anyone was going out trying to get one, and its often something that just 'wakes up' one day completely outside of your control, but yet you could be vilified for having at. Given how LGBT positive this show is, even early on, and how so many older LGBT individuals suffered through the AIDS epidemic, I really thought they were making a reference to that. Honestly this is such a great show!

  • @connorplays6263
    @connorplays62632 жыл бұрын

    "Why were you so easy to curse" BECAUSE SHE WAS ASLEEP!!!

  • @justanormalpokemon4014

    @justanormalpokemon4014

    2 жыл бұрын

    She was in the middle of her REM cycle, she ant gonna wake up for a while

  • @TheEquus92
    @TheEquus922 жыл бұрын

    I hope they don't end up curing her curse at the end of the show because I think it would send the wrong message with a curse being allegorical of physical/mental illness and disabilities being cured and everyone's happier, no more problems. With many illnesses and disabilities, that can't happen. I like the direction they're going with the curse being something that can be managed and livable with having the right treatments/accommodations. Eda is not miserable when her curse is managed, she's her happy smart and sarcastic self.

  • @ToonRuinsOfficial

    @ToonRuinsOfficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly. Supposedly Dana has said that it could be seen as allegorical, so I'm pretty confident that she won't go in the direction of curing the curse. I'll be disappointed if they do, considering they've treated it pretty respectful and have been hard on the "can not be cured but is nothing to be ashamed of, and you can be happy with management" path so far.

  • @rainpooper7088

    @rainpooper7088

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dana did say that Eda‘s hair would not change back to her natural orange color if the curse was ever lifted, so she is definitely never going to revert to her pre-cursed state in the physical sense.

  • @Dakarai_Knight

    @Dakarai_Knight

    2 жыл бұрын

    I do however think she will be able to do magic again once she's reached a point of dealing with a lot of her problems well. When her curse is more dormant. That can be allegorical to being able to still reach your full potential even if you are dealing with certain disabilities. Like it doesn't stop you it just may make that road bumpier but it won't stop you.

  • @edsweet2858

    @edsweet2858

    2 жыл бұрын

    The way I hope they go is that they find a good treatment that’s better then the elixir for it but not a cure so something that either stops them from losing themself or just stops them from turning into the owl beast but it could have some side effects or something

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@edsweet2858 I believe that Lilith is going to find the cure to the curse. Don't you think so that would be an interesting way to conclude her character arc?

  • @NovelistVampireGirl
    @NovelistVampireGirl2 жыл бұрын

    It could be literally any chronic illness. I have Congenital Heart Disease and I see so much of my experience with it and treatment by other people.

  • @ToonRuinsOfficial

    @ToonRuinsOfficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hard agree. Not just illness's either, but disability as well. I saw a lot of folks with autism saying that they also related to the story, especially when in relation to Gwendolyn's behavior (like I briefly touched upon towards the end of the video).

  • @NovelistVampireGirl

    @NovelistVampireGirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ToonRuinsOfficial funny you mention that because I’m also on the spectrum, for some reason there’s a lot of overlap when many people with CHD also being on the spectrum, as many as 40% according to a study from 2013. This correlation isn’t well understood by science as far as I’m aware, but it does exist and I’m part of that 40%. I fully accept both and try to participate as much as I can in both communities online. My family either denies it outright or uses these things as an excuse to ignore my feelings, try to restrict me, and treat me like a teenager when I’m in my late 20s!

  • @ToonRuinsOfficial

    @ToonRuinsOfficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NovelistVampireGirl I feel this in my bones, since I'm also a fellow adult with ASD and in a similar situation. It's gotten better as I get older, but I'm literally a 24 year old adult with a full time job and side gig (KZread) and I still get treated like I'm a baby. It's honestly rather annoying, and one of the reasons I usually don't tell anyone IRL that I have autism. They start treating you differently the moment that you do, or they say "you don't look autistic". Like what does that even mean??

  • @NovelistVampireGirl

    @NovelistVampireGirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ToonRuinsOfficial it means we’re verbal and “high functioning” enough that we have the capacity to fool the uninformed.

  • @NovelistVampireGirl

    @NovelistVampireGirl

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ToonRuinsOfficial I swear, it’s just ridiculous! My fam even likes to make sounds or have smells around that they know trigger me. If I had a dollar for every time a family member scraped their fork against their plate or shoved a cinnamon candle in my direction, or patronized me in public in some way, I could retire right now. Similarly with CHD, just because I’ve had multiple operations to “fix it” doesn’t mean it’s “fixed”, just that it’s no longer a threat to my life. I still have additional medical concerns and physical weaknesses and limitations that someone without it wouldn’t have. But you’d think at 27 years old, by now I’d be trusted to understand what those are and know what I can’t and can’t handle. Sadly that’s not the case…

  • @misspoopsy6336
    @misspoopsy63362 жыл бұрын

    I think Dana Terrace confirmed somewhere that Eda's curse is similar, could be symbolized for, disability or illness. Unfortunately I don't know where the quote is, it may have been from the AMA.

  • @giasca

    @giasca

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@derive8251 Luz is confirmed to be Neurodivergent. People already had the feeling when watching the show and then Dana confirmed it

  • @giasca

    @giasca

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 I think it won't be cured at all

  • @user-oz8eu4eb9q

    @user-oz8eu4eb9q

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@giasca could you tell a little bit more abt it please??

  • @giasca

    @giasca

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 yeah, but since it's an allegory of a chronic illness I don't think it will be cured. Just because Lilith gave her the curse it doesn't mean she knows how to cure it. Also, if it will be cured it would be kinds disrespectful seeing this allegory

  • @giasca

    @giasca

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 Lilith left The Owl House to reconnect with Gwen and her father. The curse will not get cured

  • @christopherrichards2350
    @christopherrichards23502 жыл бұрын

    I really like the idea of Eda's owl beast curse is a metaphor for a disability. I have autism and I care for both Luz and Eda. The Owl House is really a good show. My goal is to become a filmmaker.

  • @waveykirby

    @waveykirby

    2 жыл бұрын

    good luck on your goal, i hope you achieve it!!

  • @tinyghost2442

    @tinyghost2442

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same as an autistic artist and animator, I love seeing so many parts of this show and its crew reflect who i am, what I've expreience and what i want to do.

  • @giraffedragon6110

    @giraffedragon6110

    2 жыл бұрын

    Honestly same, I’ve lived with my autism all my life. In the early 2000’s it was barely getting studied or attention, some doctors claimed that my mom should’ve given up on me. But she never gave up on me, we went to therapy, we learned how to pick up social cues, and most importantly, we made sure to communicate thoroughly with each other. I never saw my Autism as a bad thing, I saw it as a part of me, like a limb, a lung, or an eye. There was never anything wrong with it, it merely accentuates my skills. My passion fuel the flames of what I throw myself into. I feel I have to make my job something that means more than a paycheck. I like helping others, I love to talk about character motivation and how to go beyond the simple plot stories. To make characters complex because WE are complex.

  • @spiritsofwolves

    @spiritsofwolves

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have autism too but i have not truly understood it and im still confused about what it is and what I have

  • @AngelHalo376

    @AngelHalo376

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck 💙💙💙

  • @galacta7300
    @galacta73002 жыл бұрын

    I noticed too how Lilith's owl form was larger, more aggressive and focused on hurting Eda, and because of how she felt so neglected.

  • @dangdao8068

    @dangdao8068

    Жыл бұрын

    And the hair/mane show their personality (if anyone bother to pay attention for that) eda mane look rather smooth than lilith mane while her mane look like aggressive animal

  • @milkywaycafe.

    @milkywaycafe.

    8 ай бұрын

    As another comment mentioned, since Lillith ignored her issue for so long, it grew

  • @SmolRageMatti
    @SmolRageMatti2 жыл бұрын

    I think the other thing that makes Lilith's part in sharing the curse is that some people (myself included) bury their mental illnesses in success or activities just something to avoid thinking about it, and just dont acknowledge it until forced to confront it for whatever reason. For me that was college. For lilith, it was what she did to her sister and why. And while the size of her beast does not at all diminish Eda's struggles (and no ones struggles should diminish another persons), its huge because it has not been addressed for a long time thus it grew. At least thats how I saw it. While I understand Eda's curse, I relate a little more to Lilith for many reasons. The writing is so good Y-Y I cant wait for more episodes and any other theories and analysis you come up with with!

  • @ToonRuinsOfficial

    @ToonRuinsOfficial

    2 жыл бұрын

    I relate to both Eda and Lilith, but mostly Lilith since I'm also the oldest sibling with a prodigy younger sibling who was considered a "problem child" (and therefore 'required' the most attention). A lot of the times the oldest get brushed aside, and it's why I see a lot of myself in her. But I also see myself in Eda, in that family members treated me like Gwendolyn did her. So more heavily on the Lilith side, but I think they're both very well written and very relatable for adult siblings specifically. It's so, so good and I can't wait to talk more about it in the future.

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ToonRuinsOfficial Do you think that Eda's curse will be cured since Lilith is searching for a way to undo the curse?

  • @DaHuntsman1

    @DaHuntsman1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 I personally don't think so, with the allegory for it being a disability or mental illness, i think Dana (the writer of the series) will emphasize that there are some things you just need to learn to manage.

  • @justsomesadvintagewasteoft3461
    @justsomesadvintagewasteoft34612 жыл бұрын

    Honestly this is why I relate to Lilith. My brother was diagnosed with autism at a young age, so my parents focused on his disability a lot more than me in general. All the attention was on him and I became self sufficient. Little did we know I have ADHD, we’re finally taking notice and I might go on medication. But yeah my family had to do a lot and put more effort towards my brother, I love him, I just wish things were equal.

  • @killme7692

    @killme7692

    2 жыл бұрын

    @jf k Agreed. My brother has epilepsy. My parents took care of my brother more, but that's because he needed it.

  • @karnohell

    @karnohell

    2 жыл бұрын

    @jf k that, is true! you might be loved equally but the issue is that the love was never shown enough or just never shown. emotional neglect, whether intentional or not, is always awful, especially when you're a small kid. maybe when you get older, sure, you'll understand it and not hold any grudges, but it still leaves an undeniable mark on anyone.

  • @jewelvex

    @jewelvex

    Жыл бұрын

    My sister and i went through similar shit. I was diagnosed with chronic migraines as a teen, and my parents focused the majority of their attention on me. And that hurt both me and my sister, who “had it together” most of the time. I resented the stifling control and worry that my parents put on me, and my sister resented me for taking up so much space (i think. It’s been a minute since we discussed this and she’s mended her relationship to our parents much more than i have at this point). So i totally get it, and though i relate more to eda, the experience sucks for both kids i can promise you that

  • @martinavalente6814

    @martinavalente6814

    Жыл бұрын

    Something similar happened to me. My brother was diagnosed with dyslexia, dysgraphia and adhd pretty early on as a kid, because his issues made him struggle academically. But I´m finding out at 20 years old that I have sensory issues (Specially with sound) and might have adhd. Because my struggles never bothered me academically until college, no one ever noticed. I remember constantly crying and being upset by certain music, tv, or just general loud noises, but when I spoke up about it, it was never taken seriously. I´m really grateful there is so much information now a days, I didn´t now sensory issues were a thing until I saw it on instagram, the people around me led me to believe I was just "annoying". It is so frustrating looking back, how I had to struggle alone and be mocked for all those years and he got all the help he needed.

  • @britneybij3997
    @britneybij39972 жыл бұрын

    When a cartoon is better at representing this sort of thing than actual programs geared towards adult you know there is some BS going on. Its vital this is shown like in this cartoon because the earlier it is taught the easier it will be to understand when those children eventually become adults. And also if a child can understand, then an adult can as well if they choose to.

  • @alphabatsoup5840
    @alphabatsoup58402 жыл бұрын

    It feels alot more to me like living with a disability. Such as being neurodivergent. Having meltdowns, being incurable, taking some medications to subside some symptoms, having uglier symptoms and getting in the way of performing everyday tasks. the social stigma and everyone trying to fix you. Being neurodivergent can feel like a curse sometimes. Whatever this is , i appreciated her representation.

  • @jennamomenna5750

    @jennamomenna5750

    2 жыл бұрын

    Well said :)

  • @cabrinius7596

    @cabrinius7596

    2 жыл бұрын

    it reminds me of my anxiety and adhd a lot

  • @ellasorrow4stolas445

    @ellasorrow4stolas445

    Жыл бұрын

    A lot better than most representation we get tbh.

  • @gloop7458

    @gloop7458

    Жыл бұрын

    Mental illnesses, when they get in the way of every day tasks, are disabilities. Severe depression that makes it so you cannot get out of bed is a disability. Social Anxiety which makes it so you cannot call the doctor or order from a restaurant is a disability So basically, it's both. Her curse is absolutely a disability. It prevented her from doing really important things, but it's also a very clear allegory for mental illness I personally like Gus a lot more as representation for autism. (specifically autism because you said "meltdown") Where his autism isn't presented as inherently something to suffer from or something you would never want. It's represented as a neutral state of being that really sucks to have when society is actively working against it but not anything negative to have when you are accepted and accommodated for well, which is autism

  • @milkywaycafe.

    @milkywaycafe.

    8 ай бұрын

    I think it's meant to be able to be an allegory for mental disorder, physical disorder, or general disability

  • @tarniabook3076
    @tarniabook30762 жыл бұрын

    Both my mother and I have bipolar disorder and, since I watched the episode in which the curse was shown, I related a lot to Eda, and told my mother about it. Now we no longer say "the pills" or "the medication". Now it's the elixir.

  • @tiffanypersaud3518

    @tiffanypersaud3518

    Жыл бұрын

    ❤❤ I LOVE THIS ❤❤

  • @mitsukosukino

    @mitsukosukino

    11 ай бұрын

    😊 im gonna call it that way too

  • @TheFlamingGamerYT
    @TheFlamingGamerYT2 жыл бұрын

    I definitely enjoy the deep story telling The Owl House is going for, especially since it’ll help the younger audience understand this stuff, and better understand the struggles each character, especially Eda, goes through. I think I’m more interested to seeing stories/series that have great character development, and when characters need to stand up and take on their struggles. I can’t wait for the next episode of this show, because despite being at season 2, this show is absolutely delivering a great episode after the other

  • @buckeyeguru2321

    @buckeyeguru2321

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's so impressive that they've made banger after banger for the last like 10 episodes

  • @TheFlamingGamerYT

    @TheFlamingGamerYT

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@buckeyeguru2321 It’s truly a great show, and I also really enjoy the animation in it. I’d love to do stuff like that one day

  • @buckeyeguru2321

    @buckeyeguru2321

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFlamingGamerYT yeah the animation is sooo good, especially during fight scenes and important scenes. And you can do anything with enough effort. I believe in you 🔥

  • @TheFlamingGamerYT

    @TheFlamingGamerYT

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@buckeyeguru2321 Thanks Buckeye. I’ve come to appreciate and love animation the more I age, and now, I’m just always fascinated when I see great animation, that being smooth and beautifully well done animation. And stunning visuals too

  • @buckeyeguru2321

    @buckeyeguru2321

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheFlamingGamerYT I’m the same way. I hate that people won’t watch animated shows because “they’re for kids”. They miss out on so many great stories and characters

  • @allistair9024
    @allistair90242 жыл бұрын

    I love this show, and I love the idea that Eda's curse is an allegory for mental illness. Its something as a person with OCD I understand, as I go to therapy and take medication for it. And I also understand your frustration with the cure aspect, as I also have autism and I don't want to be cured.

  • @kaelang12

    @kaelang12

    2 жыл бұрын

    not just mental; it's an allegory for ANY longterm illness, be it physical or mental

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kaelang12 Do you think that Eda's curse will get cured since Lilith curing the curse will be a great way to conclude her character arc?

  • @kaelang12

    @kaelang12

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 on the one hand, I think curing the curse would be an end goal. BUT. I would think eda keeping the curse at the end of the series wouldn't be a bad thing, necessarily. there are so many stories where people are magically cured of a disease/disability, and for someone like me, who is disabled and will be for the rest of my life, that feels like a copout. eda keeping the curse, but also being able to manage it, is my ideal ending. it shows that for people like us, there's a way to live happily and deal with the problems that the "curse", as it were, brings.

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kaelang12 Because curing the curse would restore Eda's powers?

  • @kaelang12

    @kaelang12

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 honestly, I'm fine with that. she still has the glyph magic. I don't really have the spoons to go into further detail about it's a good allegory for disability and accommodating living methods

  • @lewilbur
    @lewilbur2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like so many cartoons where a character has special "magic", it is usually a metaphor for mental illness. It is a nicer spin on it than how people actually talk about it in the real world. A few shows that come to mind that do this are Elsa from frozen, Aang/ Korra from Avatar the Last Airbender, Kipo and her mom from Kipo and the Age of the Wonderbeasts. It is truly such a beautiful metaphor and I bet it helps so many people come to terms with their own mental illness. I know it helped me!

  • @shiroko6333

    @shiroko6333

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think that's because sometimes it is hard to explain how people struggles with their problems having for example mental illness. It's not like you could show it "normally", using magic as a reason why someone is cursed,special etc. helps to understand,how serious are those struggles. Also it may reduce the sense of shame for people with illness cuz films/cartoons shows that's not their fault that they're ill. Films/cartoons could show the same problems that exist in the reality,but at the same time you can look at them from the distance. And that distance is helpful for both healhy and not healthy people - it creates the possibility to understand each other. In conclusion illness/struggles are actually hard for both sides. People with illness must to deal with the illness itself but also a guilt,judgement,shame etc. People,who are close to them also can be hurt - with their behavior,also judgement and shame but also powerless. It's amazing that artist trying to understand how it works and show it into a lot of series,no matter is that for kids,teenagers or adults. Cuz all of us need this representations

  • @iamrj006

    @iamrj006

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, I also think of She ra

  • @judemartin6329

    @judemartin6329

    2 жыл бұрын

    Percy Jackson takes it a bit more literally

  • @sophiarose03
    @sophiarose032 жыл бұрын

    OMG that’s it, Gwen was being an “autism mom”. That’s a perfect analogy. Yeah, Eda’s curse arc really hit me in the feels. Being disabled, it’s hard not to feel like I would be better and happier if I was cured, and I’ve had to tell myself over and over that I’m worthy of love as I am right now.

  • @luna_luvvs
    @luna_luvvs2 жыл бұрын

    man, this episode hit sooo close to home; residual gwendolyn. my mom used to be anti-medication and would turn to every type of holistic healing instead (yoga, acupuncture/acupressure, aromatherapy, meditation, etc). and while it came from a good place, it ended up making me feel like eda did, ashamed and feeling unloveable due to my mental illness. thankfully now im on meds and in therapy and she's fully supportive, but this episode really was a great allegory for mental illness. i think there is also something to say about the specific family dynamic and differences in how eda and lilith are treated; lilith especially seems very much like the 'scapegoat' child in a narcissistic family, putting eda closer to the 'golden child' - even if she's not necessarily viewed as perfect she's given most of the attention, while lilith could do the most impressive thing on earth and still not receive credit for it. this isn't to say eda and lilith's family is abusive and narcissistic as such, but it is an interesting parallel to draw based on the different treatment they experienced from they're parents

  • @alexmakesart7566

    @alexmakesart7566

    2 жыл бұрын

    same. Except I'm more of Lilith, but also Eda. I have bad mental issues and disorders, but my brother has a way worse one. He's autistic, nonverbal, and completely unable to take care of himself. My mom does nothing except focus on him, and leaves me alone. I've been excluded, disallowed from having things I want, all because of my brother. He runs my household, and he can't even help it. I hate it. I know it's not his fault, but it has caused a rift between me and my family

  • @anyaarcadia9166
    @anyaarcadia91662 жыл бұрын

    I kept reading it as an allegory to chronic illness, with how "alternative medicine" is often explored by relatives in hopes it could "cure" their loved one despite protests. But mental illness lines up well too. My only hesitation with it would be how often times mental illness is more ignored or told to patients "that it doesn't exist, it's all in your head, etc", while chronic illness often shows more portrayal of having doctors summoned and more parental acknowledgement (that being said, it portraying mental illness is a nice change of pace, it being outright acknowledged and accepted as a reality or existing rather than berating the person with it)

  • @anyaarcadia9166

    @anyaarcadia9166

    2 жыл бұрын

    Update on newest episode (Eda's Requiem) and OH YEAH MENTAL ILLNESS IT'S WAY MORE AN ALLEGORY FOR MENTAL ILLNESS HOLY COW

  • @cyrus909
    @cyrus9092 жыл бұрын

    hi, person with borderline personality disorder here. the scene where eda’s dad shines that light and she lashes out and hurts him really hit home. something small can really set me off and i can end up hurting the feelings of ppl i love, and it really feels like its out of my control. honestly eda’s curse episodes always make me cry

  • @huey6179

    @huey6179

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same I have bpd too it’s hard to control sometimes little things set me off like tone or even just wrong wording and I hurt ppl on accident Eda also reminds me of my bpd I feel like a monster that shouldn’t be loved I’m glad I have eda to relate too along with other characters like catra or bojack

  • @cyrus909

    @cyrus909

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@huey6179 !!!! im so glad someone feels the same way. i think theres kinda a bad attitude towards bpd so having some representation makes me feel better

  • @huey6179

    @huey6179

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cyrus909 there’s a lot of bad things ppl say about bpd and it sucks a lot it’s either u can’t love ppl or u can’t be loved ur obsessive or ur weak too sensitive or not emotionally it’s stressful to even exist as someone with bpd my relationships are oddly small and lack fulfillment and my one relationship is so connected im terrified of them ever leaving and I care really only about them but that’s my experience but I never feel I can get close to ppl im terrified of them most of the time but when I do get close it’s even worse without them I feel nothing abandonment issues from bpd suck so bad

  • @SarahLaineSmith

    @SarahLaineSmith

    Жыл бұрын

    Too real

  • @applesaur3622
    @applesaur36222 жыл бұрын

    As someone with bpd, Eda being afraid and ashamed of her curse really hit a cord with me when I first saw it. Bpd often feels like a monster that overwhelms and controls you. I really like the idea that it is an allegory.

  • @angelikajoy5673
    @angelikajoy56732 жыл бұрын

    i like how when eda is trapped inside her mind while her owl form takes over, the image is her being chased by an “inner demon”

  • @sarasteege2265
    @sarasteege22652 жыл бұрын

    That this is before "Knock Knock Knocking on Hootie's Door" is just amazeballs. The analysis and picking up on clues is spot on as ever!

  • @historiansayori2089

    @historiansayori2089

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I was surprised that there’s an extensive enough references to the Owl Beast before KKKoHD. Nice to see how this theme is continuing to be portrayed even beyond the scope of this video!

  • @maxyoung5109
    @maxyoung51092 жыл бұрын

    I love the way that Dana and the entire cast and crew weave the realities of physical disabilities and neurodivergence so beautifully💚 it's unabashed and caring at the end of the day... also, I'm not sure how this feels to those who have physical disabilities, that said, I've thought for a while about using a similar term of self empowerment to neurodivergence... I've tossed around the term 'physical divergence' that said, if anyone who experiences a physical disability has a different take, I fully and truly welcome discussion and progress... 💚💚💚 love to all identities and identity factors💖

  • @maxyoung5109

    @maxyoung5109

    2 жыл бұрын

    Side note: I have some smaller conditions of physical disabilities...

  • @od3910

    @od3910

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't have a physical disability but I am neurodivergent. I've been called everything under the sun by bullies and health workers. What I've learned is that if you find something that works for you that's great. It's good to think about how you talk about yourself. I used to think there was a normal and then there was me. But actually there is no normal. There is only different states of being

  • @rainpooper7088

    @rainpooper7088

    2 жыл бұрын

    Physical divergence could work for people who were born with physical disabilities, but calling someone who lost both of their legs in a car crash physically divergent feels like a mockery of their situation. That seems like more of a place for traditional body positivity than anything else. Then again, you wouldn’t call someone who developed short term memory loss due to a traumatic head injury neurodivergent either as neurodivergency by definition is a result of genetic variation. Maybe „mind positivity“ is another term you should start tossing around.

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@od3910 Do you think that Eda's curse will get cured eventually since Lilith is searching for a cure?

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rainpooper7088 Do you think that Eda's curse will get cured eventually since Lilith is looking for a cure to the curse?

  • @Tigermaster2002
    @Tigermaster20022 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad the episode: knock knock knockin' on hooty's door, goes onto explaining eda's curse more and the show makes it a part of her like a super power. I say that because for someone like me who is neuro divergent, I find that what I have can be helpful at times and isn't like a burden, sure some areas it's harder but into others I feel like I have an advantage. I think that's what they're trying to do with Eda's curse and I am glad I can relate what I have to someone in modern media in this way.

  • @jaisharha

    @jaisharha

    2 жыл бұрын

    I like that though she accepted it and gained from that, it's explicit that she is still using the elixir. She is still managing it through medication to ensure it doesn't get out of control she is just more in touch with some advantages it can give her.

  • @smutnejajo5149

    @smutnejajo5149

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jaisharha and it's even said that it's the elixir that let her accept it (gain the new power from it). That was nice.

  • @stardustlatte
    @stardustlatte2 жыл бұрын

    Strongly agree with this idea. It could be literally anything. For example, I have epilepsy and I relate strongly to the examples you gave such as Eda feeling ashamed of it and wanting to deal with it on her own. I also relate to the part where Luz and King were very dead set on curing it while Eda was not. I tend to keep my epilepsy a secret and I don’t want to keep it a burden on people unless it’s important.

  • @cryptidcorecorner

    @cryptidcorecorner

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel the same way I have a blood disorder and I already had a eating disorder so even the thought of people stigmatizing me bc of my disorder would have broke me so it's easier to just not tell people

  • @winnerthecoolguy2009
    @winnerthecoolguy20092 жыл бұрын

    I'm really excited for Hunting For Palasment, who else is excited

  • @veronicapiccinini7956

    @veronicapiccinini7956

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me! Maybe we find out why Belos turns into a deer like creature as shown in the trailer.

  • @gracekim25

    @gracekim25

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh me!🤩

  • @johnbarcomb400

    @johnbarcomb400

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m definitely excited

  • @dandeelion8777

    @dandeelion8777

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yahoo!

  • @itstheannoyingnugget

    @itstheannoyingnugget

    2 жыл бұрын

    ME I CANT WAITTT ITS TOMORROW AAAAA

  • @ohno8398
    @ohno83982 жыл бұрын

    So many of us watched this episode and went 'that me'

  • @bellac6311
    @bellac63112 жыл бұрын

    i always thought it represented disability. Im autistic and could relate wayy too much to the metaphor behind edas curse

  • @elliehathaway3694
    @elliehathaway36942 жыл бұрын

    I always kinda expected that the curse might end up being an allegory for mental disabilities (I’m autistic so I found a lot of the parallels relatable) But that episode, with everyone trying to cure it instead of except that it is a part of her That hit home

  • @christopherrichards2350

    @christopherrichards2350

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm autistic as well and I love this show.

  • @od3910
    @od39102 жыл бұрын

    I think Eda's curse could work with both physical and mental disabilities /conditions. There are a lot of overlaps between the two and one can lead to the other. Either way this episode was heart wrenching and warming at the same time

  • @XExprEss9
    @XExprEss92 жыл бұрын

    wow.... this is honestly better than any comfort audio heck this might as well be a therapy session

  • @wowsports8800
    @wowsports88002 жыл бұрын

    I think it actually represents trauma. All the other topics could be about other disorders, BUT one thing that catches me is how the owl beast visits her every night in her dreams making her experience the same things over and over again, Wich is a characteristic of PTSD. Edit: it can be both btw, specially bc PTSD is considered a mental illness.

  • @kaime2629
    @kaime2629 Жыл бұрын

    "There's a reason why she didn't tell to Luz and king that she was cursed and that was because she was ashamed she was also afraid that the way that both of them would treat her and view her would change" omg I felt that

  • @AstraLightKeysha
    @AstraLightKeysha2 жыл бұрын

    honestly after seeing the episode 8 it hitted me and it made me realize yes it is about mental ilness mostly mine is PTSD it hitted me so hard that i wanted to cry but i smile to know "yes, you part of me. you part of my past memories.none of us wanted it. but it happened. and i have to take it slow together with u and myself to go foward"

  • @gracekim25
    @gracekim252 жыл бұрын

    I must admit this makes me rethink how to handle Eda’s arc in my story 🤔 it makes you wonder if Emperor Belos created that curse considering it was from the night market

  • @stephensmith1246

    @stephensmith1246

    2 жыл бұрын

    wasn't the curse made of wild magic? belos is against wild magic :/ i still think it's a possible theory since you must have been quite a strong witch/wizard to have made a curse that weakens someone AND turns them into a beast for a period of time.

  • @shivangparikh2933

    @shivangparikh2933

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephensmith1246 Do you think that Eda's curse will get cured since Lilith is searching for a cure?

  • @stephensmith1246

    @stephensmith1246

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@shivangparikh2933 i do as i think the owl monster that chases eda is her inner demon. to overcome her curse she has to face her inner demon head on.

  • @ALu-nq8rf

    @ALu-nq8rf

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stephensmith1246 just because he's supposedly against wild magic for use by the public doesn't mean he won't use it for his own ends.

  • @wildcard5616
    @wildcard56162 жыл бұрын

    As someone who is neurodivergent and has a personality disorder due to lots of truma I cant stop seeing parallels between eda and the owl lady And me I keep feeling so much of a connection

  • @thecovensagainstthethronea4430
    @thecovensagainstthethronea44302 жыл бұрын

    During knock knock knocking on hooties door, it further proves that it is likely a representation of PTSD, because when you lean towards the trauma and accept it, it doesn't dissapear, but you can grow from it and become stronger despite the curse.

  • @FruityCarnation
    @FruityCarnation2 жыл бұрын

    MMMM YES SYMBOLISM MY FAVV

  • @FruityCarnation

    @FruityCarnation

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Agustus Porter It’s no big deal!! I’m just eating some pickles right now! (Ahaha pickle jar Marcy go brrrr)

  • @urphakeandgey6308
    @urphakeandgey6308 Жыл бұрын

    There was so much about Eda's character I related to and the curse was one of them. I grew up with ADHD, but my parents never cared. It wasn't until I was already in adulthood that my mom, after reading a book about it, suddenly took it seriously. Too seriously, if anything. She'd recommend any crazy "cure" or "treatment," meanwhile I already had ways to manage it because I already knew I had it. I was 10 steps ahead of her. Seeing Eda's character go through more or less the exact same thing hit too close to home. Even her sibling dynamic was uncannily accurate to my experience, with me being the rowdy troublemaker and my sibling being the golden student and child... But my sister probably still felt like she was in my shadow due to my parents always acknowledging my "potential," on top of me being older and more social, so she was always known in school as "so-and-so's sister" rather than herself. She may have been the objectively better child, but I wouldn't be surprised if she felt like she was always living in my shadow and wanted to "curse" me to live a life outside of it. I mean, in a way, she deserves it, right? Big rant, but the parallels I have with Eda don't even stop there. I love Eda's character.

  • @RekoTheProducer
    @RekoTheProducer2 жыл бұрын

    when it first started clicking for me, i associated the curse with trauma. she has outbursts, in the form of the owl beast, as a response to it. she heals and learns that it is something that can be manageable, but it will always be there.

  • @andreanastro6189
    @andreanastro61892 жыл бұрын

    I just found out how it got "canceled". I am a 23 year old boy, I had no particular reasons to feel represented in this work, but from the first episode I loved and respected it. Each episode brought me closer to the characters, their motivations, their fears and their love. My heart skipped a beat when I learned that the author's original plans cannot be fulfilled, it's a terrible thing in the art world. I know I cannot change things, and I know that there are decisions made at the top that will probably not be able to be changed, but if you are reading this comment, if you too, like me, have this story at heart and want to respect the intellectual will of the author , help me spread a message of love towards the series, just as Owl House has spread its message of love that perhaps has not been fully understood. Thanks Dana Terrace, your sadness at missing the chance to tell your story your way is the sadness of all of us.

  • @Nocturnalday
    @Nocturnalday2 жыл бұрын

    I've seen people read the curse more as a chronic illness, at least in the tumblr side of the fandom. I think it makes a bit more sense to me than mental illness. What I found interesting was that her gem is meant to show when the owl beast is coming through, so you can equate it to some sort of monitoring device. I'm not chronically ill but having an object attached to her that will physically inform her that she needs to take her medication is pretty noteworthy. I don't know much about chronic illnesses and what they might need so the only thing that comes to mind with the gem as a device is an insulin pump

  • @BlackReshiram
    @BlackReshiram2 жыл бұрын

    "Edalyn Clawthorne is the most powerful witch on the boiling isles" au contraire mam, you forgot she is also the love of my life.

  • @RB01.10

    @RB01.10

    2 жыл бұрын

    She is pretty attractive even in her 40’s I believe.

  • @kahvia12345
    @kahvia12345 Жыл бұрын

    I love how Eda finally gave water for her cursed owl and petted it. More you try to runaway for your bad experiences or problems, more they will haunt you. Sometimes first step is for being gentle- for yourself❤️

  • @sarhahillsburg5142
    @sarhahillsburg51422 жыл бұрын

    Yeah...being infantized by family etc really sucks. Even worse when only wanna look at trying cure you rather than just helping you manage. When i was diagnosed with epilepsy an Lupus everyone instantly started walking on egg-shells an pittied me. Even though nothing changed...i was still me.....yet suddenly i was ticking time bomb. Mother literally took me to witch doctors an suddenly no one wants to go out with me etc. Glad have my fiance an bestfriend. They only ones who never treated me different. Everyone else i had to say over and over again that i am still same as before. I just simply now have a name to whats wrong and tools to manage it. Will i ever be cured? No. But doesn't mean life is over. .....took me having several cluster seizures leaving me unable hold conversation an speak properly an heck no to walking after mother refused to let me get my perscribed meds that she finally saw i do in fact need my meds not just to pray an try weird diets.

  • @dragonfruit5293
    @dragonfruit52932 жыл бұрын

    For me, it was really the first time I felt representation of a disorder that I could relate to. I have Tourettes and her first monologue about her curse really hit me. I take medication to help and it doesn't take away my tics, it just makes them better to manage. I know that it's not the same thing but it's just what I feel about Eda's curse and her elixirs. My mom is always trying to find a way to cure me and help so I can go back to when I didn't tic. I am fine with my tics because I can't do anything about it. I have Tourettes and I'm fine with always having it

  • @mysryuza
    @mysryuza2 жыл бұрын

    You know the vid is gonna be good when it’s by Toon Ruins. Honestly the second half hit close to home for me. Actually I’m interested in a video about Amity’s background

  • @top-notch8277
    @top-notch82772 жыл бұрын

    Ngl having t1d made me relate to eda's curse and the way she has to manage it all of her life, especially when her mother wants to try to heal her when there is no cure but just ways to manage it

  • @basilsaurus1311
    @basilsaurus13112 жыл бұрын

    A recurring theme that I’ve noticed reverberating throughout this show is: *”If something seems too good to be true, it probably is.”* Or, to put it another way: *”Anyone who claims to have all the answers is lying to you.”*

  • @thewoollyviking5928
    @thewoollyviking59282 жыл бұрын

    I always assumed it was symbolic of a more physical trauma or illness but this honestly really made me appreciate a show I already loved that much more. Fantastic video!

  • @user-id9bn1ic9v
    @user-id9bn1ic9v2 жыл бұрын

    I definitely thought that it was like autism because of her mother being the way she is (a sort of stand in for antivax mom). Also, when Lilith took on the curse, she wasn’t able to handle it as well as Eda. It reminds me of myself, before and after speech therapy and the help of aids. Before I had the help from school, I was out unable to communicate my emotions and complaints, even to myself. I ran out of the school a couple times. Afterwards, I could take care of myself and I even made some friends. Today, I still have trouble communicating and taking care of myself, but I’ve made tremendous work.

  • @cecerats
    @cecerats2 жыл бұрын

    i saw it more as an allegory for physical chronic illnesses, but now i see it could be mental illness as well. i have chronic migraines and headaches myself and i relate a lot with eda's character

  • @VioletJazz
    @VioletJazz2 жыл бұрын

    I'll be honest, my mom is a bit better then Gwen when it comes to mental or physical illnesses, having to deal with both herself then having me with Asperger's. I'm grateful that I had a mother whose weaknesses made her a stronger and better person, who is able to better understand what people like me go through everyday.

  • @MsTenseiga
    @MsTenseiga Жыл бұрын

    this hit me at my core. I developed depression and anxiety with a visible psychosomatic consequence that happens every day and causes me severe discomfort. It scared the hell out of me bc I didn’t know what it was and why it was happening and if it was a disease that was potentially dangerous. And because it’s clearly visibly, I felt really self conscious of this blemish that looks like a damn disease. Now I know what it is and I’m learning to live with it. My mother was intent on finding a way to cure it too… but since doctors don’t know why it happens, I’ve now accepted it instead of fighting it. Because that fighting created a downwards spiral that would stress me out and, causing the symptoms to come back stronger. Which would make me more depressed and anxious… and so on. You get the idea. But just not fighting it and living my life despite the symptoms made everything better. I now know what it is and that it’s not dangerous, and also that I’m not just crazy. The symptoms still happen every day regardless of how stressed I might be, but I stopped focusing on how much I hate it. Now it’s actually gotten better. I’m not cured. I might carry this with me for the rest of my life. But so what? I can enjoy my life despite it.

  • @Mambo1061
    @Mambo10612 жыл бұрын

    I was thinking the same thing ever since we saw Eda first transform And it’s probably one of the very few shows in the mainstream at all that explicitly normalizes in any way the use of long term or lifelong medications. I also wonder if the show is inspiring understanding for those experiencing mental health crises, including public ones.

  • @jfduug4994
    @jfduug49942 жыл бұрын

    this episode is easily one of my all time favorites from cartoon history, the portrayal of chronic illness or mental illness hit so close to home and it was handled so amazingly well and positively. I just love it, and I want to thank everyone who worked on the episode for it

  • @davidbodor1762
    @davidbodor17622 жыл бұрын

    Initially early on when we didn't know much about the curse, it made me think of an allegory for an STD. Which I know, I know, weird read since there is no S or T in Disney. It's just, I have a very close friend who struggles with one that she got at a relatively young age. It's something that stays with you for life and people will make you feel ashamed of it and yourself - despite the fact that a pretty big percentage of adults get something at some point in their lives.

  • @Dimonds456
    @Dimonds456 Жыл бұрын

    For me, I have both mental illness and _chronic_ illness. I can see both with Eda, but especially the chronic part. Eda's body is out of her control, spiraling into a monster that she cannot manage by herself and NEEDS other people to help with. I feel that strongly with my sickness. I have "Graves Disease" (fun name, I know), and with it I will never be able to do a lot of the things my peers can. I struggle with writing (shakiness), breathing, and even just walking sometimes. It's like I'm not in control, and at any moment, I could fall to my knees. I find myself in Eda a lot like that. Her situation is so similar that it hurt. I cried when Gwendalyn finally listened and gave her elixirs back. That fear of mot having medicine for when your body fails is terrifying.

  • @Radi_vvanker
    @Radi_vvanker2 жыл бұрын

    Hearing her momma say “loving every part of you” made me wail internally, great vid!

  • @dionemartins0212
    @dionemartins02122 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, it makes complete sense, but after the Hooty episode, it feels even more related to disabilities. I have Attention Deficit, and the fact that she, in the end, makes a deal to work together with the curse kinda screams that to me. Like, yeah, taking my medicine is important, and when I don't and I start having episodes, it's like I can't control my body. But sometimes, multifocusing is good. Although it can be a problem, sometimes, hyperfocusing can be useful. You know what I mean? And it also makes sense with the fact that Eda is considered wild, and that she would rather risk her life then settle down in a coven. But that's not really about the curse, it's more about Eda

  • @violingineer7862
    @violingineer7862 Жыл бұрын

    It really hit me hard when Gwendolyn "didn't like what the medication was doing to Eda" and took it away. Both of my parents were against me starting medication, and though it's never happened to me I still felt that bone deep fear and helplessness of someone taking away your medication to "help" you.

  • @gendertale
    @gendertale2 жыл бұрын

    i think the new episode REALLY adds on to this metaphor

  • @Eazy_Peazy
    @Eazy_Peazy2 жыл бұрын

    I have anxiety, and I felt like I couldn't control it at all. I tried to control it, but it just made me worry more and more to the point where at one point, I couldn't make any decisions at all for weeks because I was so worried about the future. Lately I've been able to control it more. But this video helped me realize that it's not something i should be ashamed of. I should just learn to live with it and accept that it's a part of me. Not just a huge parasite taking up my brain. It's there, and I am dealing with it, and thats ok. Damn I guess I'm an Eda kinnie now.

  • @Fragile_Media
    @Fragile_Media2 жыл бұрын

    I think something really clicked with me when watching episode 4 of TOH. I was recently diagnosed with what is colloquially called high functioning autism and what that essentially boils down to for me personally is this. I struggled when I was younger to do things the "normal way" and to do things that "normal" kids could do but through good upbringing (thank fuck) I grew to be able to do and understand things the same way everyone else does. The difference is that I just learn things in a different way and it's never been about how I can't do tasks or understand things it's rather a question of HOW I learn to understand something. Here with Eda and Lilith I think that's fantastically represented in how they have to both learn magic again but with Glyphs rather than spells. They can accomplish absolutely anything and perform on par with their peers, however they just approach magic from a different angle. I'm so thankful for this messaging (whether it's intentional or not is another story) and I feel so well represented by the struggles that Eda and Lilith are facing.

  • @dutchstewart9462
    @dutchstewart94622 жыл бұрын

    I don't think that Eda's curse is actually a curse I suspect it may be part of a forgotten ritual one at where somebody faces off against a corrupted form of their own spirit animal

  • @lyrexioscreatorguardian
    @lyrexioscreatorguardian2 жыл бұрын

    bruh the conclusion start killed me. tbh this whole episode did. I wish I could show this my mom and dad and hope they will learn from it sadly they won't since they don't listen to me or things I show or tell them. I have analyzed everything even on their side but they refuse to see mine. I'm stuck with self hate from both home and old past schools, I'm stuck with feeling like a disappointment day in and day out thanks t home, It got so bad I stopped eating less and less. I lived in starvation thanks to home. The constant fights my parent had and seeked cuz they didn't worked on their selves and refused to let us speak. I am child number 3 of the 6. My older brother is disabled and tbh I do feel like I am the least loved child. the one to always drag problem with him. I am stuck in a body with the wrong gender and I'm trying to fix it but I get no support from my family, Dad ignores it's there and mom tries to reverse it. She doesn't want to see the point in it. and she knows now for at least 2 years. I have been confirmed by therapists and psychologist to have PTSD and when I told my mom she was genuinely wondering why. I know who I am but both past schools and home have tried to bend it their ways. I refuse to bend and even though I should see that as a victory I can't help but take the hits and feel like such a piece of shit. I literally go about my day sleeping and living at night cuz then no one sees me and then no one will says something. the world is lovely quiet at night. To know the fix to your problems and to go all out for that... I moved out. I'm 20. I'm doing the transgender thing. I finished 2 therapy session already. I had to be picked up from the ground. I lost the taste of food but since I moved out it's getting consumable again and tbh glad I could get 2kg back. the only problem I'm still facing is the night spend and the family issue. How do you fix a family that big and that different and that broken. How do I them to listen to me knowing they won't. How do you bend something just and unbendable as you? How can I show my mom that yes. she raised us better than her parent raised her. But she still failed to raise us good. she still failed to listen and accept change. She failed to accept her mistakes cuz she compares it to the life she had. Yes my parent had a suck ass life. true. fair .valid. but that doesn't justify the current actions they are pulling now. No child should go to home having the feeling it's not safe anymore. No child should be yelled at in a corner for suffocating from starvation after they while crying told their parent to stop yelling and to just finish them off already. This memory is imprinted in my mind man and they refuse to see the trauma of it. No one backed me up. I'm now at home on my own still recovering from something that happened in march. Thinking about it puts me back to that moment and here my mom genuinely asked me last week how I got PTSD??? WHAT!!?? how...HOW CAN SOME PARENT BE THIS FOCKING BLIND AND SELF CENTRED!!?? how!? Not accepting you daughter is yur son I can kinda understand and get from they POV... but not understanding yur effects on none processed trauma effect yur kids is ridiculous!!! she calls her self a broken cookie sometimes meanwhile not seeing she and dad mentally and sometimes physically smash the 6 cookies they baked!? How? I don't get it. and I'm a problem solver! I wanna solve it but knowing they won't be open for it just leaves me with a puzzle where some pieces are glued on to the table!? HOW....and when...can this shit be fixed and will parent see that their kids even with none alcohol or drugs or smoking parent can still suffer from heavy pressure, expectations, abuse, lack in freedom etc... I had item thrown at me and dad cuz dad lashed out on me for not being able to google something and using a louder voice tone to tell mom that cuz she was arguing with my sister...TF!!?? IKD why I'm even venting out here it's a YT video..I just could relate to it so much...and I beaten down my doors to keep this shut. I really hope a parent reads this and thinks about how they treat their kids. and I hope they change their actions. I'm 20. I'm technically an adult here in my country and I know no parent can be perfect and that having kids and if not a lot of kids is hard and not an easy task. But man!! I hope your kids did not go through the bull shit I went though and am still going through. Cuz it's not healthy. Accept that as a parent you can have wrong actions and that you better can correct those then deny they happened or weren't that bad. I'm...sorry for tossing this out... I cracked and may this find it's way somewhere useful. Also no worries. I'm in good care! I'm on my own now I got a lovely GF and I might go for that PTSD therapy too just to make sure it won't effect me as much in the future.....I held my lips closed for to many years...It's time to get open about this.

  • @lunaroseartz9126

    @lunaroseartz9126

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry that your parents didnt listen and support you during this. I dont really have much else to say except for good luck with everything! And I hope your doing good! :)

  • @sunettas9738

    @sunettas9738

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry about how your parents treated you, and I'm glad you're doing okay now. It's frustrating to see how people won't change despite the harm they did, and even harder to accept it. You don't have to forgive your parents if you don't want to, but I hope you can find peace otherwise

  • @emma_nutella58
    @emma_nutella582 жыл бұрын

    They handled Eda’s curse in terms of disability really well, how it affects the family and how it affects your life

  • @DreadPirateElla
    @DreadPirateElla2 жыл бұрын

    Dude I noticed this too! The monster thing that she describes as a child and that we see throughout the episode rlly reminded me of some kind of mental illness, especially when she kinda defeated it and it got small. I'm glad you're talking abt it bc I haven't seen anyone else talk abt it yet!

  • @rowo6433
    @rowo64332 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for making this video. I relate to eda and her curse so much as someone who struggles with a lot of mental illnesses.

  • @jacksonfurlong3757
    @jacksonfurlong37572 жыл бұрын

    I know its a bit surface-level but, both Eda and her sister now have visible signs of their mental illness at all times, now. In the form of their heterochromia (they both have a 'cursed' grey eye)

  • @ARCtheCartoonMaster
    @ARCtheCartoonMaster2 жыл бұрын

    I have to take meds to deal with my anxiety, so I can relate to Eda's struggle. I just hope she's grateful she doesn't have to commit daily crime to stay alive. And yeah, I know Eda is a criminal because she refuses to join a coven, but at least she did that of her own volition, instead of due to some arbitrary curse like in that opera by those two British guys no-one cares about.

  • @DrawciaGleam02

    @DrawciaGleam02

    2 жыл бұрын

    What opera are you talking about?

  • @StarlasAiko
    @StarlasAiko2 жыл бұрын

    I read/heard several comparisons of the curse with physical disabilities or chronic illnesses. But more than any physical disability, I think it is more akin to a mental disability, specifically depression or manic-depression (bipolar personality disorder). The curse even behaves a lot like those two. Same as the curse, depressions and bipolar disorder tend to make one become very hostile when they flare up, especially towards people one cares about and who try to help and show sympathy. And just like the curse' representation in Eda's headscape, they become a lot more manageable and less dangerous if the depression or bipolarity is not feared, suppressed or rejected.

  • @hotcocoa8373
    @hotcocoa83732 жыл бұрын

    It's a little sad that this video came out before Knock Knock Knockin' on Hooty's Door came out, since that was a very important piece of development on Eda and The Owl Beast, with how Eda reacted to everything, shunning Raine and how much she blamed the curse. Still, wonderful video!

  • @gabys919
    @gabys9192 жыл бұрын

    I agree and relate more to lillith. I have three siblings and one is mentally I'll and another used to have cancer. And my other sibling who was just fine was the youngest so I end up getting the bottom of the barrel for attention from really anyone. It doesn't help that when I do ask for help I'm either ignored or told the same thing over and over again. I feel like my own mental health is getting worse and that there is something wrong with me but I cant tell anyone because it's probably harder for my siblings and it's so hard and I'm sorry if I'm annoying any of you in the comments.

  • @aduckinlingerie
    @aduckinlingerie2 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't agree more. During Eda's dream sequence, all i could about was how her relationship with the curse was really similar to my own experience dealing with mental health issues.

  • @HoneyJinxxed
    @HoneyJinxxed2 жыл бұрын

    SPOILER ALERT The episode Knock Knock Knockin' on Hooty's Door revealed just how accurate the depiction of the curse as a Mental Illness/Disability really is. You can't just bury it away, you can't just pretend it doesn't exist, you have to acknowledge it, you have to work with it and I'm so glad that the show is actually, though subtly, depicting these types of themes.

  • @sofiaardvark9039
    @sofiaardvark90392 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE this interpretation of yours, and with the new episode, I feel it just keeps making more sense, and I'd like to give my thoughts on it. Spoiler!! Eda talks about how the curse ruined her life and relashionships, how she pushed everyone away because of it, like with Raine (who also could've reacted better, they really left when Eda clearly wasn't okay), maybe because she was made to be ashamed of it from her mother and others like you said. And we know the Clawthorne sisters don't talk to their father much anymore, and maybe that was partly caused by Eda's curse, which understandably scared him, the way some symptoms of mental illness can frighten people close to oneself. Her father didn't react well to it though, and perhaps that also had a part in making Eda more ashamed of her curse and not wanting to show it and be helped by the one's she loved. In her dream she is also captured by a bounty hunter, which represents how society views her as a threat because of her curse, even when she is in control of it like in that part. By the end of her segment in the episode she further connects with the Owl Beast and accepts her curse, which actually starts to show the positive ways it can affect her life if she has the right approach and mentality towards it, which I think is a pretty clear metaphor in this context.

  • @ksara_ruki
    @ksara_ruki2 жыл бұрын

    I"ve so unnesceserily cried during this video cause it"s really hit home. I viewed it the same way when connected the dots and was happy to see a more profound discussion of this. Thank you.

  • @mrb5940
    @mrb59402 жыл бұрын

    My grandma (god bless her soul) suffered of anxiety and probably bipolar disorder her whole life, she found medication and treatments to help her, but because of negligence and people without morals, she ended up abusing her medications. She passed away because of liver damage many years after that, probably for the abuse of medications during her whole life. I think this traumatized my mom, and everytime we talk about medications and long term usage of treatments, she always speaks of these as either scams or in a bad way. She is not antivaccines, but she definitely doesn't believe in the use of medications as a long term treatment. This is why Eda's mom situation really resonated with me, and why I loved this episode so much

  • @sisi7304
    @sisi73042 жыл бұрын

    absolutely love this video, and that part (or really the whole episode) felt very close to home for me as well, I really loved it, even when it made me uncomfortable lol, the steven universe episode did too, as I've gone through a lot of trauma also, now with that dream in the newest episode, and how she's more in Harpy form, that can be a symbol for how the curse (or any mental illness) can be further manageable, so it's not so terribly bad as to completely debilitate her daily, she can work with it, using it more as a power (some neurodivergent people can use tricks and accommodations to work *with* their mental disorder/illness in order to be successful, and some disabled people can do very well when appropriately accommodated), but still using elixir to be human most of the time

  • @matthewdeplato1227
    @matthewdeplato1227 Жыл бұрын

    I really like this video and series. I have BPD and hearing your analysis really struck a chord with me. You've made me want to restart the series over again but with your new perspective

  • @cinderpsycho1985
    @cinderpsycho1985 Жыл бұрын

    This whole story all of it hits home way to much. Thank you for making this video

  • @jessicakent4530
    @jessicakent45302 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting this video. I hadn't really thought of Eda's curse in this way before. It's always encouraging to hear someone talk about the issues that come from other people while suffering with mental illness, to be reminded your not alone in it. As someone who struggles with mental health, I really needed this today.

  • @777Rowen
    @777Rowen Жыл бұрын

    Love your discussion! As someone with a disability it’s nice to see something like this. There’s a quote that Eda says in an episode “Knock Knock Knocking on Hooty’s Door” that is really impactful. It’s this scene during the dream sequence, “Eda: [looks at the elixer] Now I thought these were a way to fight you, but... I think they’re the reason we can stand here face to face. Listen, neither of us want to be here, but... we are, and there’s no changing that. If we can’t accept each other, this nightmare will never end. So what do you say? Truce? For now?” It’s this beautiful moment of acceptance and learning that you can’t change parts of yourself; but that you have to accept yourself, and that the darker aspects can be managed. Weather you have a chronic illness, disability like I do, or mental illness like I do it’s such a beautiful & impactful message.

  • @MyouKyuubi
    @MyouKyuubi2 жыл бұрын

    Im so glad you mentioned the owl house in one of your videos, i would've missed out on a great cartoon if you hadn't.

  • @matiassanchez1362
    @matiassanchez13622 жыл бұрын

    I love this video! I knew you because of the infinity train video about Amelia, but I haven't seen so much of your content. In addition to the elixir/medication thing, let me add something else: Eda says at some point of the series that she needs more and more of it for the curse to be manageable, and that is something that happens a lot with health-related drugs. For example, Clonazepam (used for people with anxiety disorder and/or when having a panic attack) affects the body in a way that makes it more resistant to it, needing bigger and bigger dosis

  • @darwinstarr6752
    @darwinstarr67522 жыл бұрын

    I loved that episode. yay another tuck and birdie fan it is so underrated

  • @bee-zz6bf
    @bee-zz6bf2 жыл бұрын

    i definitely saw her curse representing chronic illness, which my mom has so i showed toh to her and she absolutely loved it esp eda :)

  • @thefallenstarlight2133
    @thefallenstarlight21332 жыл бұрын

    I really love this! I felt a connection with this as well, but because of my epilepsy. The seen where Eda brushes it off and says "No one likes a curse, but it's manageable", everything with her mother, and how she tries to keep it a secret were very relatable to me. I'm glad I'm not the only one who can relate to her condition.

  • @adelaidedriver9962
    @adelaidedriver99622 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making this video. I didn't see this connection before but it really hits home. I got diagnosed with ADHD a little over a year ago and at first, I saw it as a curse but it's a part of me. I love this allegory and the way the owl house presented it.

  • @chickadeestevenson5440
    @chickadeestevenson54402 жыл бұрын

    then knock knock knocking on hooty's door happend I still think it symbolizes mental illness in some ways, but in other ways.... WOW.

  • @bocattelan
    @bocattelan2 жыл бұрын

    Well, its 8 am and I am crying. Great video!

  • @sporogymno
    @sporogymno Жыл бұрын

    As someone with borderline issues, it was so wholesome to see Eda accept the lil owl dude (ie, borderline anger) 😢💗

  • @emeraldqueen1994
    @emeraldqueen19942 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate your take on this!

  • @Tazer_Silverscar
    @Tazer_Silverscar2 жыл бұрын

    Possibly a weird question, is Eda based on Ryoko from the Tenchi anime franchise? Her voice even sounds very similar to Ryoko from the Tenchi dub.

  • @kaitlynmartin2075
    @kaitlynmartin20752 жыл бұрын

    You made my day, and maybe even helped my life long term. No pressure! :) Thank you.

  • @user-wx4pv9hc4n
    @user-wx4pv9hc4n2 жыл бұрын

    thanks for the retrsopective I didn't watch it (the video) but I can appreciate that you took a lot of time (I'm just assuming anyway) to make the production on it. If I ever watch this video I'm sure (like at least 90%) that it's probably like pretty bussin

  • @Vampiric_Goblin
    @Vampiric_Goblin2 жыл бұрын

    Well this video symuteneously called me out but also help me understand myself AND IT WAS OVER A SHOW I LOVE

  • @wildheartthetawnyowl8286
    @wildheartthetawnyowl82862 жыл бұрын

    I like the vagueness of the curse. I related to this video not because I have a mental illness per se, but because I was my mother's shadow for so long-because I repressed so much of my dysphoria-that I ended up with crippling self-doubt. For the longest time, I thought I had depression- but I am just a neurodivergent demiboy born into the wrong body. I see a lot of myself in Lillith as well as Eda; always having to be that 'perfect child' who was never allowed to crack or show weakness.

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