The Supportive EQ Trick

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  • @G_handle
    @G_handle Жыл бұрын

    A related topic: Classic Analog EQs (and their emulations) have 1) a limited number of fixed frequency choices, 2) repeated across all the channels on a console, 3) those choices were made specifically (by say Rupert Neve himself) for a reason, they’re not arbitrary. As opposed to a fully sweepable Parametric EQ, where no frequencies are “pre-selected” , those fixed positions should A) be musically related to one another when EQing a single source, but also B) “support” and/or “contrast” each other musically when EQing multiple channels into one group, and groups into a mix. I’ve not seen enough online about Why these choices were made and How they ‘work’ musically.

  • @RecordingStudio9

    @RecordingStudio9

    Жыл бұрын

    Totally agree. For that reason, they used certain EQ and Comp for particular audio sources back in the day. These days people have no clue other than Palteq is good, or API is better, not even knowing the differences between SSL E and G types. Not many bother to learn them. Ryan is a great example to learn from as he talks about how things work rather than which brand.

  • @damianoakes2592

    @damianoakes2592

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a big part of why my go-to channel EQ when I'm mixing is the Trident A-Range, and if you look at the development of that EQ, it wasn't done mathematically where the frequencies were precisely planned out, it was developed by ear by Malcolm Toft, who was a great engineer in his own right, and who then got feedback on it from the engineers/producers whom were working at Trident at the time, such as Gus Dudgeon, Tony Visconti, Ken Scott, and Roy Thomas Baker, and when you put it on a source, you very quickly find that you can put it on anything and make it sound good.

  • @phillipdumond600
    @phillipdumond600 Жыл бұрын

    I read about this idea in a book called behind the glass. Each chapter is an interview with and Engineer or Engineer/producer. Works great from a low end info perspective. Sometimes when you think you want more kick for instance, 60 or 100 might not give you what you want. You might get more snap from the octave above or even 2 octave which like you said, supports the low end info. This will in turn, bring out more low end information without the build up. Great topic and hardly discussed enough. I'm a New follower. Loving your drum videos. I am in a small room trying all those concepts. Very helpful!!! Gonna try the trash can reverb at some point. LOL

  • @gozaband
    @gozaband Жыл бұрын

    Could tell right away that was your drumming from that steady heavy foot haha!

  • @ElmoSyr
    @ElmoSyr Жыл бұрын

    For clearing mud I very often combine a hpf with a low cutting bell just after the low cut frequency. So sure, supportive eq!

  • @CamiloVelandia
    @CamiloVelandia Жыл бұрын

    Awesome man. I have been doing this unconsciously or by ear but it makes sense the way you put it. Ultimately, it sounds more organic with the supportive EQ

  • @corrosiveabuser
    @corrosiveabuser Жыл бұрын

    Quality video sir, nicely explained. I'm no purist, or professional for that matter, and I still often use two old Roland graphics for various duties, and although the SEQ-315 is getting a little noisy with age, the EQ-215 is still amazingly quiet, and a very useful graphic eq within my sonic arsenal. - It is very true that one will always get a more pleasing sound if the graphic display resembles more a natural wave, using just the occasional boost or cut on a specific frequency band will often sound unnatural, especially on a graphic eq. - love to ALL, feel no hate

  • @baldmandoom
    @baldmandoom Жыл бұрын

    Great insight. I think Gregory Scott from Kush Audio has a video about something similar, but I can't find it right now

  • @miguelmikemigs
    @miguelmikemigs Жыл бұрын

    Jeeezus thank you!

  • @Mikey__R
    @Mikey__R Жыл бұрын

    Is this just because modern shelving filters are too steep?

  • @montysweetmusic3458
    @montysweetmusic3458 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! I totally understand the concept and have been unknowingly doing this for years. Thank you for breaking it down! Love your channel

  • @MCB-ls6nw
    @MCB-ls6nw Жыл бұрын

    You just made me realize I do this quite a bit.

  • @jimhart1959
    @jimhart1959 Жыл бұрын

    Hmm....I'm going to give this a try!

  • @easternsouvenirs
    @easternsouvenirs Жыл бұрын

    The high shelf on a 1073 is super weird. It’s not even a high shelf. It basically just boosts the whole upper midrange from 2khz-10khz and then rolls off. The bell boost is a bit more targeted though so using them together is definitely helpful

  • @MrIantodd
    @MrIantodd Жыл бұрын

    So you’re saying, start with a frequency you like in the mids, then work outwards in octaves? That sounds like something I’d like to try. Thank you very much

  • @RecordingStudio9
    @RecordingStudio9 Жыл бұрын

    Isn't it like a shelf with a lower (high shelf) or higher (low shelf) starting frequency?

  • @luca4352

    @luca4352

    Жыл бұрын

    The supportive Frequency is mostly boosted by being a bell curve around the frequency, so I would argue not quite, as you would have a small dip between your supportive frequency and your EQed frequency, depending on the Q of course. Hope that makes sense

  • @RecordingStudio9

    @RecordingStudio9

    Жыл бұрын

    @@luca4352 Yes, the Q value will make the difference and I know what you are trying to explain in the original video. :)

  • @BeesWaxMinder
    @BeesWaxMinder Жыл бұрын

    It’s a Thing NOW😂!!👍

  • @trackz2cold
    @trackz2cold Жыл бұрын

    almost at 69.420 subs

  • @RemcoJvGrevenbroek
    @RemcoJvGrevenbroek11 ай бұрын

    just widem the bell with a octave

  • @caspermaster-com
    @caspermaster-com Жыл бұрын

    Everything supports the pyraMIDS ;)