Damn that was anti climatic, imagine farming 8m for a tower that does less dps than perma charge

@mohannad_139

9 ай бұрын

and kills the game with insta-win-no-lose

@funcat3560

9 ай бұрын

Anti-Bloon became the anti-climactic paragon.

@HardxCorpsxKali

9 ай бұрын

Yeah they just made the portal have no cooldown. That is the main ability. It’s technically always going to win. You can beat every round because the portal will just slurp them up.

@kwxl06

9 ай бұрын

@@HardxCorpsxKaliparagons were made for bosses

@CommentPositionInformer

7 ай бұрын

@@kwxl06 Me always getting a Paragon on Impoppable:

This mod was a slight let down. No disrespect to the creators, you guys did a good job on the design, but I think it would have appealed to the audience more if it had wild amounts of damage, ALONG with the great ability.

@salmonofknowledge3229

9 ай бұрын

ya, with the perma-portal, degree doesn't matter at all. just get a degree 1 and let it go forever

@fur_avery

9 ай бұрын

it's definitely not working correctly, I don't think anyone would create a tower like that intentionally

@kreatona4219

9 ай бұрын

My guess is that the crit mechanic actually messed up the paragon, seeing how the ability did a lot less damage when it got a crit

@dipsonbabz2210

9 ай бұрын

i agree

@Creamy_swirl22

9 ай бұрын

Well they probably just wanted to balance out the mod and not make it super op

Id love to see a beast handler paragon where it makes a chimera

@davidpernell6836

9 ай бұрын

you have no idea how long the btd6 community has been trying to find out the beast handler paragon should be and that's a good idea

@Forcemaster104

9 ай бұрын

Honestly that’s such a good idea for it

@thegoldenfuzzygamer2shulkf810

9 ай бұрын

Or where it controls a human 🫡

@BAKKINN

9 ай бұрын

Like a chimera ant

@frostdays9576

9 ай бұрын

nah if its not godzilla (or a reference to godzilla) ima be dissapointed

2:50 I imagine that the farm paragon will precede the super paragon, and will serve as a stepping stone to the super paragon.

@blutwirbel3180

9 ай бұрын

They already said that super paragon is not on their current list, because vtsg already is that

@mr.jitterspam9552

9 ай бұрын

​@@blutwirbel3180it's not, ninja kiwi confirmed the vtsg isn't a paragon

@G384Gaming

7 ай бұрын

​@@blutwirbel3180nah on a QnA blog post they said all of them will have one and someone else asked if the super monkey will have one and NK said "Why wouldn't the supermonkey have one?"

@yoyoy9546

7 ай бұрын

@@G384Gaming Can't help but feel like they'll do something different for super monkey given how top path has been the catalyst to paragons in the first place.

@blocker476

6 ай бұрын

@@yoyoy9546 just gave me an idea that a super monkey paragon functions like a sun god, but will only sacrifice other paragons with no limit on sacrifices this could mean the paragon is quite cheap (and weak) relatively however relies on sacrificing high "worth" paragons to be stupidly strong the "worth" of a paragon depends on the cost and degree so high degree, expensive paragons boost the stats the most

I looked through the code of the mod, and it looks like for every paragon there's a set value for the damage on the main attack (e.g. "WrathAttack.GetDescendant().damage = 250;" for the druid). The Super monkey paragon does have not have this for its main attack. It instead only has one for the ability damage, which is why it is so great, starting at 200k damage, and scales up to ~400k (degree 100 in sandbox). It also seems like the paragon was intended to have different behavior depending on if the paragon was created with a vtsg or a regular tsg. Its arms change color to all black, but their positions bug. I don't have experience with btd6 modding, but this is what I saw.

@baris9031

9 ай бұрын

but with a vtsg u cant buy the other t5s anymore?

@KatherynneF

9 ай бұрын

Gonna be hard to get a VTSG and super paragon in a solo game…

@DeJay7

9 ай бұрын

Guys come on, think for a second. Maybe if your TSG becomes vengeful, it has the option to upgrade to this paragon. I'm not saying it's normal, but it makes a lot of sense for a mod to do.

@ChaoticJester

9 ай бұрын

​@@DeJay7also if it became official we could get a new knowledge upgrade to allow the other T5s to be placeable despite there being a VTSG on the field.

@mr.jitterspam9552

9 ай бұрын

​@@ChaoticJestereven though the mk for the vengeful sun god is called "there can only be one" would this be called "there can be three"?

The portal does have a lot shorter cooldown, but I think the creator of the mod forgot it was an ability whose cooldown gets reduced from the degree, which makes later degrees have 100% uptime (cooldown starts ticking from portal activation I think)

@KatherynneF

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I can confirm it’s from activation, which is why several daily challenges have resulted in permanent portals in vanilla BTD6 with 5% cooldown timers.

Me personally I considered the vtsg the paragon cuz you need all three of the 5’th and sacrifices but that’s just me tho but seems like a cool concept

@pascalthecurator3368

9 ай бұрын

NK confirmed vtsg isn't a paragon, there will (hopefully) be an actual super monkey paragon in the future.

@acdettwiller

9 ай бұрын

i feel like a super monkey paragon should require sacrificing other paragons to get up, anything less than that and it feels undeserved

@Schewby-Doo

9 ай бұрын

@@pascalthecurator3368ohhh, thanks, I ain’t know that

@genio2509

9 ай бұрын

​@@acdettwillerYou can sacrifice paragon degrees of each category like a temple, 3/4 categories like tier 4. That'd be interesting.

@gravitysword2002

9 ай бұрын

​@@acdettwillerthey can't do that because they only allow 3 paragons for boss events

Every third ability deals less demage because its a crit - crits with this paragon are bugged to giving like 1/4 of the demage instead of 5/4 of the demage or smt (his normal attacks also crit and that is why his nor al dmg is so weak).

Archmage is actually the closest tower to a paragon without being a paragon, since it gains the tier 3 of the other two paths

@peachorange2

7 ай бұрын

wait archmage gains shimmer?

@StardustSB

7 ай бұрын

@@peachorange2 yes, but funnily, it doesn’t gain camo sight so the shimmer is the only way to see camo on a 520 apprentice

Seems like the crits are completely unscaled by degree

4:00 ISAB thanking is canon now

That small little timelapse of the farming was a good choice! I was just thinking about it then you showed it!

I’ve always seen the VTSG as the super monkey paragon. The paragon before paragons. It incorporates the design of all three paths, requires a sacrifice of all three T5s, and even unlike paragons doesn’t let you place any more tier 5 super monkeys

@Zebo12345678

9 ай бұрын

I agree with VTSG being like a paragon from before paragons, but it definitely doesn't include the design of the middle and bottom path supers. No double arms, no ability, no portal, no darkshift. It's just top path super monkey but edgy and powerful.

@yoyoy9546

7 ай бұрын

@@Zebo12345678 Uh what? It's metal has red eyes and is black which both paths have to some degree.

@Zebo12345678

7 ай бұрын

@@yoyoy9546 That's kind of a stretch, but even if we accept a visual similarity, that really doesn't make it "like a paragon."

@styxscorpion4541

6 ай бұрын

A paragon is supposed to be a 5-5-5 tower. I see the VTSG as a 6-0-0 instead. Its basically just a stronger true sun god.

@weedwhackeraccident

5 ай бұрын

I genuinely thought it was the paragon for super and was very confused

They actually named it after a SCP lmao

@Jason-ie1ih

9 ай бұрын

just wait until he starts turning the monkeys into robots

the design of the paragon is insanely great and fitting. all 3 tiers combined would result in something celestial/astral. the sun (a star), the darkness (the void in the universe) and the anti stuff (antimatter, the stuff that holds galaxies together). i love the design-idea! It could be cleaner tho

@masterofdoots5965

6 ай бұрын

Correction: Antimatter isn't what holds galaxies together, that's Dark Matter's job

Visually 10/10(okay maybe moving pattern would be cool too, but impossible i guess for a mod), but if its paragon gimmic is only 'perma portal' and 'short cd nuke', thats pretty disappointing. From an SM paragon, i'd expect so much more gimmicks.

I think the ‘crit’ abilities might have been bugged because the devs forgot to make that scale with degree It would be a stronger ability for a degree 1 paragon, but since it doesn’t scale it’s just weaker once you get to higher degrees

@danielbrown9460

9 ай бұрын

That makes sense with the 3rd ability not doing much dmg.

@kreatona4219

9 ай бұрын

I think that goes for the damage as a whole as well to where the normal attack critting is messing up the damage cause they didn't scale it

Only 8.5mil to beat round 2 billion? Count me in

Thank you Batman for soloing the bloons

I wonder if Mekhane is an SCP foundation reference

@el_perro2436

3 ай бұрын

The name made me think so but I’m not sure…. It is very cosmos related but not mechanical related so….

What would be really cool for the official super monkey paragon is if a VTSG is sacrificed to it it gives more paragon power and a higher degree (Edit just realized im an idiot because the VTSG takes all the teir 5 slots been a while since ive used it)

@Block360mc

9 ай бұрын

The hard part about that is that if you make the VTSG you can't buy the other tier 5s anymore

@dracoblizzard7944

9 ай бұрын

that wouldn't make sense because the VTSG has the same requirements as a paragon, so it would literally be free and no reason not to go for it, so why would it even be there

@GamingWithNikolas

9 ай бұрын

That makes no sence

@matimele1

9 ай бұрын

That makes zero sense

@cartersmith9842

9 ай бұрын

​@@dracoblizzard7944bro forgot paragons cost cash lmao

YES i live for the modded tower vids (and 5-5-5 towers, random towers, random 5-5-5 towers etc. Etc.) theyre the best type of vid imo :) I would gladly watch modded content every day, i feel like even though you've showcased plenty, there's 1000x more out there to enjoy

Super monkey paragon would be so cool if it could sacrifice OTHER PARAGONS to ehnance it's already matchless power, since the True Sun God had sacrifice mechanics. Oh, and it'd be also cool if Adora had specific interactions with this.

@PoggerFoxy

9 ай бұрын

remember that adora has interactions with the sun, and by extension the sun god, so not necessarily the super monkey paragon

@Zebo12345678

9 ай бұрын

I agree! Super Monkey Paragon should sacrifice other paragons to get a piece of their power. Would be a lot of work to implement, but maybe give it a unique buff for each paragon? For instance, dart paragon giving it bouncing projectiles, boomerang giving it moab knockback, boat giving it fighter planes, engineer giving it turrets...

@nameynamd9212

9 ай бұрын

​@@PoggerFoxyThat's true, though if skins could be counted as relevant to the respective hero, Voidora could be that connection from normal Adora(just to say that it isn't too different).

i like the idea of the super monkey paragon being so darn expensive, vengeful sun god already exists so i feel like the paragon should be something incredible ridiculous even if its not viable to get at all

Mod creator: how do we make a paragon for a tower when one of its 5th tiers is literally the god they worship Mod creator's therapist: jason please find more productive hobbies Mod creator: AN ELDRITCH BEING

@erikburns292

9 ай бұрын

YEs

Bro the super monkey paragon is probably a paragon you need paragons TO SACRIFICE so it meets the requirements for degree 100

@apalsnerg

9 ай бұрын

That would be a very cool concept.

@whatevero3701

9 ай бұрын

Bro the bro started broing on bro!

@whatevero3701

9 ай бұрын

Brooooo 😂😂😂

@thatboi134

9 ай бұрын

@@whatevero3701 Bro you are clinically bro, bro.

@Oogie187

9 ай бұрын

@@whatevero3701BRUH

No way a paragon mod with effort put behind it?!?!

What if it gets buffs from other towers but they don’t do anything because of it

@d34dstruck13

9 ай бұрын

That would actually be a cool idea to make the paragon unique to the VTSG

Thank you ISAB for proving this possible without double cash

I think the Anti-Bloon part of the tower was integrated as the anti-paragon here.

5:33 “Let’s make sure not to mess up and end up selling paragon totems, that’d be bad” *Isab says as he proceeds to sell a paragon totem*

7:12 Super Paragon deleted the bits off the Monkey Village. That Super Paragon so OP.

Great video isab thank you

Mekhane? As in Church of the broken God Mekhane?

@ilikturtules4667

9 ай бұрын

Hahahah I said the same thing, I’m glad I’m not the only one

2:57 i sort of imagined the super monkey paragon, when it does come out, in order to incorporate top path features, might sacrifice other paragons for more power, which would definitely make it not be super overpowered in bosses, due to the paragon itself already being super expensive and requiring other paragons to actually be significantly more powerful, sort of like how getting a no sacrifice true sun god is probably the worst way you can spend your money on a defense

Oh I didn’t even recognize which map Isab was playing on at the start.

my best guess is every third ability is a crit but it is coded badly so it would be doing the amount that a degree 1 crit would do even at degree 100. this goes for the main attack as well meaning it does almost no damage

Minecraft youtubers be like "I did a little mining off camera" *the mining off camera in question* 0:22

@canovanthecanman

9 ай бұрын

Only it’s Isab so it’s believable

It’s possible it takes the damage from other towers in range making them weaker, but strengthening the paragon, which would let it do more damage

Bro if the Super Monkey Paragon comes in the future it has to be a Mechanical Batman God that can kill anything by breathing

i was not expecting to get jumpscared by all those farms 💀💀

I was assuming the paragon's damage levels would be dependent on the sacrifices of the TSG. But I guess that'd make the temples a bit complicated to calculate.

I would’ve imagined a Super Monkey Paragon having an ability like Adora’s Sacrifice maybe even buffing its degree with a high enough sacrifice (would probably need to sacrifice another paragon) or even copying the old XX5 wizard’s soulbind

thank you ISAB for letting the bloons into the portal

This probably wont change much, but maybe if u have a max sacrifice temple it would do more damage

How many banana farms do you want? ISAB: yes

I hope that when the super paragon actually comes, they incorporate a vengeful version for if you use a vtsg for it.

Thank you isab for popping bloons with alien x from ben 10

I rlly wanna see what the official tack shooter paragon would be, or maybe glue and sfactory paragons?

Mekhane… someone is an SCP fan

Well the faring in the start was the most interesting part of the video to me 😅

The beast handler would actually be very canonically correct if it is called yaldabaoth

If Im spending over 8Million on a paragon tower, I expect that paragon to one shot T5 Bloonarius with base attack

Thank you Isab, for doing some mining off camera

Mekhane? Where my scp bros? :D

9:57 Big shot

There should be a car guy monkey, different paths would be different car classes (sports, muscle, JDM etc.) Peirce, speed, damage, even a money making ability. Each path has different car mods that makes it better until it's fully modified. Idk I think it'd be pretty cool lmao

I still haven’t been able to find a good working super paragon mod can’t wait until they make the official one😂

There's no way the super monkey paragon would cost 3 mil (if it ever existed). The VTSG ALONE is around 2 mil. A better guess is probably in the 5 mil range

I think you need monkeys for sacrifices (or the "power suck")

Thank you Isab for popping the bloons with the most expensive paragon

Damn the vtsg is looking funny this update

You should revisit this mod if the damage bug has been fixed. I saw someone say Crits are the bugged thing- doing 25% damage opposed to 125% damage

You should do the druid paragon from that pack. In terms of DPS, it's the most disgustingly strong thing I have ever seen. Do enjoy it.

IMO they should massively increase the damage, and give it a knockback effect that works on zomgs and below

thank you isab for thanking batman for popping the bloons

Seems like the antibloon ability works with % of full hp damage i guess it also has the ability to crit

When super monkey paragon offically comes, i wonder if it will require the true sun god, or the vengful sun god

I have a better idea for the super monkey paragon, it could be like the true sun god but like evil and robotic with dark power and ohhh maybe you'll have to have a minimum requirement, it could be like the VSG from BTD5 I personally think it will be cool, also making it super easy to mess up with few ways to be sure of success would be cool.

Wtf, Church of the broken god?????? In the monkey game?????? Hahahahhaha

Idk now but i Think it might it would be cool if it worked in This Way, it Will get the damage of every tower in its range, so if he Got a 3,0,0 sniper it would do 20 more dmg and Then the sniper would do zero damage or something

2:27 The super monkey paragon will probably come after the banana farm and village paragons

Mekhane is a god in the SCP Universe

Vengeful is actually so similar to a paragraph u need all 3 tier 5 super monkeys and sacrifice 400k in money with towers.

Maybe it was weaker because, just like the temple, part of its power is determined by the temple sacrifices? so if you get a vengeful temple, maybe its base damage will be higher?

Everyone always talks about Farm paragons and Super paragons, but I want a Druid Paragon :D

and yet again, the only super monkey worth its cost is still the legend of the night

All we need now is a god of flesh and beasts for it to imprison to be scp lore accurate.

God, I hate how I’m up at this hour keep in mind it is 11:34 pm where I am

if they do add a super monkey paragon, I wonder if it'd be more powerful if you have a vsg over a tsg

Thank you ISAB for thanking Batman for soloing the bloons.

mekhane? IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING *_SCP FOUNDATION REFERENCE?!!!!!?!???!??!!?_*

Thanks for popping bloons

The moment I heard mechane I instantly thought of the broken god in scp

Seems like the crits were bugged to reduce the damage instead of increase it

Aw man a great name for this could've been deus ex machina. Not only is the term a good one, it also has god and a word similar to machine

0:21 banana farm jumpscare

ngl i thought you were on in the loop at first

I personally don’t think there’s gonna be a super monkey paragon due to there already being the dark temple in the game

That's cool design but they could balance him to do more atack damage and less ability damage, so you are not forced to spam it all the time to do damage, also his portal cooldown should not change based on level, maybe just the duration by a little bit, so it's not absolute impenetrable

9:56 here's a [BIG SHOT]

My guess is that the crit mechanic actually messed up the paragon, seeing how the ability did a lot less damage when it got a crit

vengeful cost 1.3m - 1.8m depending on difficulty so I would expect the paragon to be at least 2m probably nearer to 2.5

Mr isab. Ive been wait for This upload all morning. For the past almost 3 years more or less ive been watching ur vids every single morning. Not missed a single upload. i do function without watching you in the morning ❤❤ i guess what im trying to say is i love ur vids. They make every morning tolerable, keep it up!

Maybe the ability supposed to do More damage but the integer number is so big it overflows ?

my guess is that the super monkey paragon will be pretty much the paragon of paragons, probably it could absorb other ones and combine their degree... yes, a degree 500 super monkey paragon

I don’t think we’ll get a super monkey paragon, because we already have one, the vengeful temple was the first ‘paragon’ before they even existed

A very accurate super monkey paragon , it sucks but without the perma portal

I just want to know where to find the mod to set paragon degree, I have a save I tried to see how far all level 100 paragons could go but I die before I can get there

Huh, Mekhane is an scp reference. The mechanical god