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@Frey_211

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother

@korebrent1234

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Ta ta ta today junior get to the point already

Stage 1 from Cobb sorted it out. I turned mine at 7K. Warranty aside I couldn't fucking take that rev hang, and 4.3K power drop anyone.

Been following you channel for months now! always great informative content. i own a 2017 wrx base and i definitely cringe to the rev hang! retune needed asap

I just got a 2010 legacy GT spec From an 05 forester that was also stick. after driving many automatic subies I instantly loved the stick but thought that it was normal to have a jolty first gear. This video totally helped me understand what rev hang is! Thank you. now that i have a suby worth adding mods to i am digging into performance research.

Rev hang is also an issue with my GTI. It makes the 1-2 shift really difficult to make smooth

I recently looked at 3 used WRX's with the manual transmission from MY16 to MY18, and the clutch was very heavy. Is this typical in this car? Having driven a Civic SI and VW GTI, this seemed a bit excessive. Along with the rev hang you mentioned, this seems to make for an unenjoyable daily driver.

I also noticed that without a tune, I get butt loads of soot on my exhaust. Soon as I get a tune, there is very little soot if after weeks on end. The afr is just sooo much better.

I've been putting off a tune for a while. It's about time for me to try it so look forward to your impressions.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

My plan is to go stage one when it gets warmer, and then 2-3 weeks after go to stage 2.

@MNeuenswander

5 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEnthusiast It is a slippery slope when you start engine modifications.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

eh stage 2 seems to be fairly reliable with 2015+ WRXs

in my experience with my '18 wrx it seems like the rev hang is not as bad when youre shifting at 3.5-4k rpms. i think the buck is bad when you do it at low speeds because then in second the rpms have to drop pretty low and the wrx in 2nd gear seems to lug quite a bit For example give a bit more gas right before you shift at the point and it should help. though i know what you mean about being in between speed bumps. i wish the car was more drivable in 2nd at low speeds

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah if i had the space to bring the car up to 4-5k rpm i agree it isn't as apparent, but typically being in the city, i just dont have the room.

Being an owner of a '17 WRX 6 speed myself, the rev hang sucks. It sucks a lot more in lower RPM's, obviously. I also live in a townhouse riddled with speed bumps, so trying to get power in between is hard, so the jolting and "bunny hopping" happens sometimes. Once I turn onto a main road I'm usually pushing it to like 4500-5000 RPM's, so it isn't as noticable. Also, has anyone noticed it doesn't seem like I can get past 5500 RPM's before it just like stays there. Would a tune help me get closer to the actual redline?

I own 2018 WRX limited. Thoughts on grimmspeed resonated catback exhaust? Also considering MAP stage I for some gains and to get rid of rev hang. Thoughts as well?

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

I am going to test out the MAP stage 1 and compare it to the cobb stage 1 at some point in the near future. As for the resonated exhaust.... scale of 1-10 how loud are you looking for? rasp? drone a problem?

@alexpeguero38

5 жыл бұрын

Something louder than stock, quite on highway but can enjoy some noise when hitting the gas. I have looked at several videos for grimmspeed, so I decided to buy one and figure it out myself. I also realized my stock exhaust is rusted in less than one year with my car which is crazy. It seems like stock would not hold up? I’ll let you know how it sounds though.

Thank you for making this video

I just test drove a 2019 WRX Sport-Tech up here in Canada, and I really noticed that rev hang. Have you decided to add a Stage-1 or are you willing to live with the rev hang? Thanks for the video :-)

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

Decided to answer this comment versus the other, I have been in a friends WRX that was stage 1 and the rev hang was completely gone.

Unfortunately rev hang on this car is very prominent because for 1. It’s turbo charged (very high boost for the size of the engine too) and for 2. (Sort of related to #1) emissions. When you let off on the accel pedal, the A/F ratio becomes very lean for about a second or 2. This creates a very high NOx content and to eliminate this, Subaru and many manufactures added this rev hang. What it does is it holds the throttle open just for a bit to equalize the A/F ratio and get rid of these gasses. Boost pressure that still needs to be recirculated and used also contributes to this rev hang very bad and makes it prolong even more. Sorry, but a tune will help out a bit. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@jfielder8656

5 жыл бұрын

Shift out of first around 2300 rpm. Problem solved

@lokerin493

4 жыл бұрын

I have no turbo same thing and now I have to fly out on every green light subaru is just fucking cringe

@chukob5

4 жыл бұрын

J Fielder exactly if your not driving fast just shift early it’s simple

@chukob5

4 жыл бұрын

Captain Buff The Third lol what do you mean never going to happen? Do you drive stick? You can literally take off in 2nd if you really wanted to

@chukob5

4 жыл бұрын

Captain Buff The Third I did read it and not all wrx are stick

I have a 2007 1.5r hawkeye. And have the exact same problem. So its not just the wrx because its supossed to go fast. Even after around 7000 kms I still didnt get used to it. I own 4 cars all manual. And the impreza is the only car I simply cant shift smoothly in no matter what.

Got my 2017 tuned all stock , I did it t for max reliability, and it still has a rev hang and it gets into boost with out giving it gas , idk if that’s a good thing or not ?? , MAperformance stage 1 tune helps with it a whole lot , but since it’s an OTS tune it’s not so great for a long period,

I'm subscribed and I always stick through till the end :) love the videos. #modup

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

thanks! Much appreciated!

Do you think with rev hang that Wrx is good first manual car? Because this has me leaning towards a CVT WRX more now.

@YungEagle3k

5 жыл бұрын

Well if it's your first manual then you will get used to it quite quickly. Never get an automatic a manual is soo much more fun

I have a 05 forester 2.5i n/a and if I don't watch what I'm doing it will actually climb in rpm

Stuck with it until the end! Sidenote; black & white... We could get a super corny pro-shot IG yin/yang thing going on with the cars. The Mrs. took some fun photos in the snow a few weeks back.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching! Lol we could, the white is horrible in photos though...

I mean if I have 1 st gear on for about 10 sec but under 4k rpm .. will I do any damage to it?

@vaplemalley3029

3 жыл бұрын

no lol

Idk what's worse the Rev hang or road noise

Do me a favor... pop your hood and look directly below where you fill the oil . Is the ocv leaking on your wrx? Specifically the one below the oil cap?

@crimescene25

4 жыл бұрын

its build into the computer for less nox output. Its not a valve....

I have a diesel car with rev hang. Shifting between 1st and 2nd is always a pain. Have to shift between 1900-2000 rpms to notice it a tiny bit less. Over 2000 rpms it jerks too much and under 1900 feels sluggish. I drive manuals for over 10 years and when I got this with the rev hang I thought the gearbox was defect before I learned that rev hang existed. I never drove a petrol so never shifted at 4000 rpms 😊 I would love to cure the rev hang in my diesel car but no luck so far...

Hi thanks for the video .. if I am in a parking lot or on a quiet street with very slow speed or at some corners .. how long can I leave it on 1st gear if I am going slow and under 4k rpm? Thanks again

@yammmit

2 жыл бұрын

From what I’ve heard it’s always best to drive around in 2nd unless you’re going so slow the engine is starting to bog. below probably 10mph in a parking lot i’m usually in 1st

I have kia picanto gt turbo 5 speed manual and the rev hang between 1st and 2nd is the same terrible. Being a 3 cylinder I thought it might be the uneven cylinder fire but its a issue with 4 bangers as well.

Does it only happen I manual cars because I think it happens in my automatic bmw 528i also.

@AutoEnthusiast

4 жыл бұрын

It can happen in a lot of cars, but in auto transmissions it is a programmed response. It is as well in a manual, but crappy for the driver.

Do you think going stage 1 Cobb ots benefits the manual more than the cvt ,as it smooths out these issues ,also will you see any HP gains

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

i am not sure i would do it with the cvt until the warranty is up. I haven't done it to my manual yet, but the only "benefits" of the ots stage 1 on the cvt is a more linear throttle response and a little more power.

Bought my 2018 WRX in January and couldn't stand the way it drove. I've driven manuals my entire age 16 and up life and this car is the only one that made me feel like I was learning all over again. Picked up a Cobb AP 2 weeks into owning it and haven't looked back. Look forward to watching your mod progress!

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

Still going good with ots map?

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

Im at 18k and got the cash just dont know if i want to pull the trigger. If clutch goes and im on stg1 im screwed

@shawnboy81

5 жыл бұрын

@@dnawrapsatl yeah man! Going good! Stage 1 wont give you a huge boost in power to worry about the clutch. Just makes it a much more linear pull through all the gears. I wouldn't sweat it too much unless you're already having clutch problems. Hope that helps! Cheers!

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

@@shawnboy81 how many miles have you used stage 1? And which oil brand are you using with it? Did you go 5w40 like alot of others?

@nonofyourbusinessnonofyour5435

4 жыл бұрын

Dallas Williams nothing will go enjoy it bro

why wud any1 upshift at 5k in 1st pls ?

My 2020 Honda Civic Si Coupe has horrible rev hang too and it drives me nuts. Love the car but hate the rev hang. Thinking of upgrading to a Type R just to not have to deal with the rev hang anymore (heard those cars don't have the rev hang). Why do companies do this to newer cars? It doesn't help the car drive better in anyway. Just makes the car a pain in the ass and unenjoyable to drive. I'm trying to find a way to get rid of the rev hang (don't have a tuner and no stores where I live sell them) but no luck so far. Planned on keeping the car until it dies but I won't be keeping it if I can't get rid of the rev hang. It literally makes the car so goddamn frustrating and annoying to drive.

I test drove the WRX. The rev hang was unbearable. I asked the dealer if I could Cobb tune the car without voiding the warranty and they said no. I test drove the STi and loved it. I couldn't see spending 36k on a WRX Limited when I could get a STi Limited for 40k, so I bought a 2019 STi. Looking forward to driving the DragonTail in NC this summer.

@miself5709

5 жыл бұрын

Is there a big difference between the WRX and the STi's Clutch/Flywheel/Trans?

@CarStory

5 жыл бұрын

@@miself5709 Yes I believe the STi transmission is completely different. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

@miself5709

5 жыл бұрын

I'll have to test drive the STi before making a decision. Just not really a fan of the 2.5 (fearful of ring failure). How do you like yours?

@CarStory

5 жыл бұрын

@@miself5709 I am working on a video about my first 3 months of owning the 2019 STi. I can tell you that I drove both cars before buying the STi. I did not like the way the WRX lost power at around 4500 RPM or the rev hang between shifts. That was a deal breaker. I have lots of insight on what I like (and don't like) about the STi (too much to mention here) so please look out for that video coming soon.

@miself5709

5 жыл бұрын

@@CarStory I definitely will! Respond when you've posted it and I'll check it out.

picked up a 21' premium last friday. absolutely LOVE everything about the car, besides the hang from 1-2. ordered a cobb AP three days after i drove it off the lot

@mrosaine

2 жыл бұрын

Has that worked for you? I also bought a ‘21 and feel your pain

@User2djdb

2 жыл бұрын

Im about to get my 21’ this week, did the tune help? Does it void the warranty?

@evanarnold3663

2 жыл бұрын

@@User2djdb I absolutely think it helped, the boost rolls on smoother (prob due to the throttle being linear) and the rev hang going to 2nd is almost non existent. Depends on the dealer, but I had my first oil change at my dealer and I simply unplugged my ap and put it in my glove box 🤷🏻‍♀️

@evanarnold3663

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrosaine for sure! Definitely get an AP, you’ll never regret it

Bro, I am learning stick on a 2016 in the mountains of colorado lmao. I feel your pain in so many ways, I thought I just sucked at stick (I kind of do because I am new) but man..its tough

@AutoEnthusiast

9 ай бұрын

Good luck!

Yo I saw your ad on mass Subaru lmfao, why you getting rid of it?

2 years later and stuck around to the end of this video no complaints lol. I shift pretty smooth with my 2020 stock WRX, not entirely sure if Rev Hang exists to the extent he’s emphasizing compared to older 2015+ models if that makes sense.. Next step, a tune haha

@moneyseeker8886

2 жыл бұрын

Rev hang was fixed in 2018+

@crownhillsjoey

Жыл бұрын

I have the same year , does your 2nd gear feel grindy?

@rustirab3465

7 ай бұрын

2023 Impreza. The hang is bad.

If i go over 2k in 1st gear it takes longer to drop. Everytime i go higher i ride clutch more . Only way for me to make it smooth is to shift at 2k in 1st.

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

Also if you drive long trips make sure to get off the clutch asap or it will get hott and feel like water

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

Also if you use defrost heat or air your throttle response will dip by 50 percent. Try to rev match with the ac or defroster on. I bet its not the same

@mb_mobile49

5 жыл бұрын

@@dnawrapsatl While I can't speak for the WRX, I can say the air circulation does cause some sluggish response in other cars. Air conditioning is a big performance vampire - the worst.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

yeah the low rpm shifting is saving me right now in bumper to bumper traffic

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEnthusiast glad i could help if it works. It does help me alot. The power dip around 4k is bothersome also. But good luck man keep up the vids! Love the pov manual talks

After a 1000 miles or so you’ll get used to it. It is very hard to drive smoothly. I took out a GTI before buying my WRX and it shifted smoothly but was not nearly as fun to drive.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

yeah i wasn't even considering a gti, potential an R in the future though

@MeltingRubberZ28

4 жыл бұрын

Tune then both and you'll be sad you didn't go VW

I was told these cars clutch was meant for a bit of dragging. If you drag the clutch (i know its hard to heard) but they do drive more smooth

Try turning off your hill hold assist. It helps out a bit... until you get your tune

The Impreza has it too. I hated it. Can’t afford any tunes, and decided to get a cvt for now until I can save up again for something else. Edit: the rev hang is intentional. Something about helping with emissions.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah a tune on an impreza might not make sense either. I just think that it is an easy fix from Subaru....

I noticed this in my 17 I had a 98 gt 4.6 back in the day and they are notorious for hang there was a way to fix it I found in a forum, iac valve two ways either machine a plate with smaller holes than the gasket or buy a gasket roll cut your own gasket and make the port holes smaller than the iac. The ports where about a half inch in diameter and the resize was quater inch or an eighth I forget been a wile. But the rev hang was gone! Sounded so bad ass like a nitro car how the car decels immediately, bassani x pipe and flow masters

So this so called Rev Hang occurs only on the wrx and not the sti? Weird

Rev hang is bad especially how hilly my area is. Either my car bucks or it's a smooth shift but I slow down a lot and the people behind me slam their breaks. Cobb it's stage 1 helps. It does get rid of some of the Rev hang but not all. Don't let all these people fool you. Throttle response is also fixed. Less torque in lower end but power all the way through

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

I don't plan on having the Cobb stage 1 for too long. I will be doing a protune as soon as I can.

I heard you say a good pull will clean carbon could you explain that a bit more?

@crimescene25

4 жыл бұрын

burns it off.

The rev hang is dreadful. I've been driving my 2019 for around 2k miles and no amount of practice helps me get used to it. Update: got an access port. So much better. Felt like a new car.

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

Get out of 1st asap. And put some muffler deletes on it it will help you hear the motor and helps you shift.

@askal857

4 жыл бұрын

Buy an accessport it is very well worth the investment and doesn’t make you feel like you spent $40,000 BRZ

@tedwong6790

4 жыл бұрын

@@askal857 Won't getting the accesport void the warrenty?

@MultiLuispo

4 жыл бұрын

Ssme here.

@zpurpz

4 жыл бұрын

Just shift to second sooner . Domt wait for the revs to fall because it's an illusion .. :)

Also, this is an issue with ALL newer manual transmissions. Car is rev hanging to burn off excess fuel for emissions purposes. My dinky little 2020 Hyundai venue does this and it only has 128 horsepower lol

Roads are terrible by you too haha. Rev hang was annoying. But what i found just as annoying stock was how far the throws were 1-2. Boomba short throw really clean that up and then I added the Perrin short throw shifter adapter which reduced it even more so! Highly recommend either if your looking for quicker throws

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

Not sure if I will go for a short throw, but considering it. I think i would have to drive one that had it first

@emissarygw2264

5 жыл бұрын

I put in the Perrin shift stop (which just blocks the stick from going too far left), which was ok ish but honestly feels a bit weird too since now the stick moves much farther right from center by comparison. Still overall an improvement. For rev hang I flashed stage1 cobb, which I guess improves it a bit but also just gave up on waiting for revs to drop and now I smooth out the shift by just letting the clutch slip until the revs are matched. Probably sucks for clutch wear, but meh.

I have a 2020 Hyundai venue that has horrible rev hang, even at 3,000 rpm. It’s because of the new emissions laws. The rev hangs to burn off excess fuel. You can’t shift my car smoothly from 1st to 2nd no matter what you do. Just hope I’m not replacing clutches every 30,000 miles

I have a '19 Civic Si and it too has pretty bad rev hang

i watched the whole video thanks

Had a 2018 wrx and fell in love with that thing but I agree that rev hang is absolutely trash. I say this because I upgraded to a 2019 STi and there is NONE and the shifts feel completely natural. I noticed the rev hang before but it wasn’t until I felt a transmission from wrx that was this good in the STi until I understood just how bad it really is. Trust me, get rid of it ANY WAY you can and you’ll feel like you have an entirely different car and for the better.

Stage 1 from your cobb ap helps the rev hang

the Maperformance stage 1 will greatly reduce it. i just flashed it to the map yesterday. it does not feel much faster but its only been a day.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

from what I have been hearing, most people can't tell any difference in power with just a stage one. Glad to hear it helps with the rev hang.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

just curious, why MAP over Cobb?

@jameskocks4734

5 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEnthusiast yeah im a little disappointed. i just bought my catted j pipe, grimmspeed ecbs, perrin charge pipe and finally a Maperformance tmic. i will be pro tuning in the near future on a 91 tune and running 93 unless they advise otherwise.

@jameskocks4734

5 жыл бұрын

@@nickh1933 i cant disagree. there's not a lot of options at the price point though.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

hm good to know. Yeah I think I will have my WRX through next winter and then will make the shift to something that makes far more power and better numbers from the factory

Bro from that picture I literally thought that was mine, from the color, Mass plate, and license are delete lol

Hence why so many go stage 1. Smooths out the power and much more drivable especially in traffic. I did it within a month of purchasing the car. Now I am debating on going stage 2.

@AWESOMEFATBOY1

5 жыл бұрын

Jeromie Barden Did you void the warranty? I have a 19 wrx and I bought the AP but scared to put it on because definitely don't wanna void the warranty but my god the rev hang is trash

most people wouldn’t tune their car is bc they don’t wanna void their warranty

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

that's true. it is definitely a risk, and one only worth taking if you were already going to tune your car. I guess it is a suggestion to do it sooner

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

If i go stage 1 then i wont be able to sell it

@emissarygw2264

5 жыл бұрын

@@dnawrapsatl I called my dealer and asked them if they care about doing the cobb AP... the tech was like "idk, and even if we did you can just undo it and we can't tell".

@Atm1988.

5 жыл бұрын

EmissaryGW2 they can

@emissarygw2264

5 жыл бұрын

@@Atm1988. Just saying what the tech from the dealership told me. IDK if it's true or not. The internet is split 50/50 on yes vs. no, so...

1 more tip. Never use hill assist. And try turning traction off

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

@Kekistani Refugee maybe your clutch but no it did nothing but make things worse. I live in a very mountainous area and the way the stock tune is in 1st gear its better for me and my application to turn it off. Thanks for the reply

Folks, part of the problem is about the driving - normally everyone is used to pushing in the clutch and easing off the gas at the same time. Won't work with the stock FA20 WRX, the ECU map is not linear - therefore, the traditional footwork approach won't work. Just like you get the immediate boost spike as you roll on the throttle, releasing it slowly keeps it at higher than needed RPM. I've been driving my WRX'19 for 10K miles and this is how I deal with the rev hang: I try to give the car enough of the acceleration initial impulse off the start in 1st, then immediately - before I aggressively step on the clutch, I lift up my foot off the accelerator completely. Make sure the car doesn't loose the acceleration momentum. That split second when you lift off your foot off the gas first and THEN momentarily push in the clutch will be the key trick to master. The shifting got a LOT smoother. Plus, you have to wait for the synchronizers (don't force them) to equalize cogs speed and then as you shift, releasing the clutch quickly doesn't cause jerkiness.Try it. WRX has her own rhythm, which requires a great deal of synchronized and smooth drivers' inputs. Don't make the samurai do wrestling.

@aaronbeckman4752

4 жыл бұрын

That makes sense, gonna try that. Been driving stick since I learned on a 71 chevy pickup with 3 on the tree. Had wrx 3 months now and the 1 to 2 shift been annoying me too.

@2t_mxrider

4 жыл бұрын

​@@aaronbeckman4752 You'll get used to it, patience does it :)

I dont experienced rev hang on my 21 sti

You'll get used to it, you'll just have to modulate the clutch pedal with a little more finesse.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

i am working on it lol

@crimescene25

4 жыл бұрын

no thanks, i'll just not buy one. Literally was going to go monday and get one, not now.

@kilabot749

4 жыл бұрын

@@crimescene25 Or just buy the STI version. Or does it also have rev hang?

@crimescene25

4 жыл бұрын

@@kilabot749 just bought a 2017 wrx sti on the 15th, and no it does not have it. Seems to be a 2.0 DIA issue.

@nonofyourbusinessnonofyour5435

4 жыл бұрын

crimescene25 2017 STI does have some rev hang but going for cobb stage 3 and pro tune in 2 weeks so should clear it out

I've driven a '14 crosstrek with the 2.0l. Rev hang is pretty terrible on modern cars.

i have a 2013 guess this doesnt apply to me??

@crimescene25

4 жыл бұрын

only 2015 and up.

I can’t stand the rev hang, I think when I decide to tune mine I’ll be more excited about losing the rev hang over power gains.

You think that's bad rev hang? Try driving an '07 Dodge Dakota with a manual transmission. It's the first year that they came out with electronic throttle control in those trucks, and you might as well completely forget about even trying to rev match the 1-2 or 2-3 shift in that thing. By the time the revs drop anywhere close to where they need to be, you've already lost all your momentum. The only way to shift it quickly is to slip the clutch on the bite point and force them to drop. Whoever decided that the simple mechanical throttle cable should be replaced by electronics ought to be hanged, drawn, and quartered. It's like someone said, "you know those guys that buy manual cars for the fun of it? How do we make it not fun so they buy the more expensive and less reliable automatics instead?"

saaaaame I owned a celica 92 with NO rev hand and after owning a civic I kinda got intreduced but this subbie omfg stuck throttle? and why is the shift knob slapping around so far subbies are top over rated on my list

Boost doesn’t engage in 1st gear in the wrx

I have a 2018 with Cobb stg 1 and it did nothing for the rev hang. I have been driving manuals for over 20 years and have had 10 cars with a manual. Nothing was as bad as my wrx. Dont be disappointed when you get an ap because believe me it does almost nothing for the rev hang.

I literally just canceled my test drive when I found this video.

Lol I thought I was just rusty, I test drove 2020 today, jerk/rev hang def bad

It’s almost Eliminated in the 2020 WRX FA 2.0

Thanks i thought i just sucked at shifting.

Release the pedal a moment before you shift. That takes half the rev hang out. Don’t be afraid to drive it at high rpms at a finesse type flowing manner. It takes getting used to but ... fuck it. Imma make a little private video for u.

Lol yeah the rev hang sucks man! I was driving today and I rev up to 5k accidently in first and was like crap I have to let it drop lol before going to 2nd gear, which is like a 1 second wait lol

@dnawrapsatl

5 жыл бұрын

Yes i feel your pain! At a stop light everyone wants to hit the gas in their automatics. Not me gotta wait for revs..... i can totally see a huge number of wrxs being rearended due to this issue

@87ssstans

5 жыл бұрын

@@dnawrapsatl yep lol u see people ease off when they get too close, but if you shift early it doesn't hang as bad lol just gotta find the sweet spot

@emissarygw2264

5 жыл бұрын

@@87ssstans You can just ride the clutch until the revs even out. Not great for clutch wear, but in normal driving occasionally slipping the clutch to shift from 1st to 2nd is nothing compared to the abuse the clutch will take in stop-and-go traffic.

@87ssstans

5 жыл бұрын

@@emissarygw2264 thats very true, the stop and go traffic is where most of the wear comes from

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

haha I have done the same thing, the long wait

Get a Cobb Accessport from MAP Performance. This way you get their stage 1 tune, as well as the Cobb tunes...I still felt a bit of rev hang on the Cobb Stage 1 tune, on the MAP Stage 1 it's 100% gone.

I’ve been driving manual vehicles for 10 plus years. I drove around in a 2017 WRX for a year and a half with rev hang. It fucked me in gears 1 and 2 all the time, unless I was thinking about it. And was going against my instinct of driving a manual transmission. Subaru finally fixed this shit in their 2020 model. But how this wasn’t addressed on earlier models is bullshit. I noticed it on my first test drive. I thought I would get use to it. But never did.

@hetts_

3 жыл бұрын

Nope rev hang still in 2020 model, just got one

@User2djdb

2 жыл бұрын

2021 still does, i test drove it today

I'm staying stock until I see what the 2020 wrx has to offer.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

my plan it to do the normal stage 2, intake and downpipe, and wait until the 2020 is revealed before deciding to do anything more.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

I am hoping to see decent numbers from the 2020

@goldentrucker7921

5 жыл бұрын

@@AutoEnthusiast I just had a piece of asphalt shoot through my passenger side rocker panel/ side skirt. $275 for part, 300 for paint. These Pennsylvania roads are very damaging.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

jeez, that is an expense piece of asphalt.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

not necessarily, the odds definitely dont look as good, but only the S209 has been released so far, no STI yet

As far as im aware the rev hang is subarus attempt to apply to North Americans emissions standards. There are many tuners out there which know exactly how to make the best out of your car and make your ride exactly what it's meant to be.

Ots tune isnt gonna help as much as a protune

@AutoEnthusiast

4 жыл бұрын

Very much agreed

Video starts at 2:18

Rev hang in subaru is because they have port injection fuel system and electronic control throttle bodies.

Pro tune does nothing to rev hang I did it no diffence

Map stage 1 tune with the AP. You wont regret

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

map over cobb? Why do you prefer the Map? Just curious

@shots998

5 жыл бұрын

Auto Enthusiast More power and more reliable. Its a step above the cobb map in both departments and its free if you get the AP from mperformance. I just switched to a bren etune tho and it pulls even harder now

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

I plan on taking mine into bren, I am lucky i live nearby

@ninbri64

5 жыл бұрын

I get nothing but DAM drops with with 91 or 93 MA Performance Stage 1 tunes. Car is reliable with COBB 93. I'm pretty much the only one I feel like that can't get the MA Performance tune to work well

I'm gonna go ahead and make a video in the 19 wrx shifting next week . I can show you my shifting and how smooth it is with no issues or extra bs. Sorry to say that many including you, do not know how to shift in a Subaru. These cars are indeed diff from other cars :P

who else bought a new one and looked up a vid to explain LOL i know im not alone this shyt is still a thing lol

You shift at 3000 RPM 😱...you must have a really bad ⛽ mileage.

@XBexGone

4 жыл бұрын

Ayoub Rabhi ya I shift at 3k and 40 bucks only last me 3-4 days lmao

Drove my cousins 2016 WRX and the rev hang is hideous. Perhaps I could get used to it, but man I just wish I could put it into a sport mode or something so the throttle actual does what I tell it to. You pretty much have three options. Wait a long time between shifts to allow the revs to drop (sometimes 2 - 4 seconds). Slip the clutch a little more to smoothly bring the revs down. And finally, possibly void your warranty and install a tune that gets rid of it. It's a shame on an otherwise fantastic vehicle.

holy crap bro you gotta get a new mic for your channel

Ooooooooo, explains everything. I thought i was the only one with this issue

Never showed the rev hang.

Sold mine shit car to drive coming from an s2000 such a bad driving experience

Subaru must have signed off on it since it's still there 4 years later. (Unless someone with a '19 can tell us it's not on their car.) *always to the end

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

lol right...

@jimmytheshark86

5 жыл бұрын

I have a 19 still there

@Dankenstien909

5 жыл бұрын

2019 checking in. It's still there.

@suckmyaxe2904

5 жыл бұрын

19 still here... annoying bro

@nestorportela6771

3 жыл бұрын

2020 it’s a slight improvement but still there..

I stuck around

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

thanks for watching. It is much appreciated!

Just traded my WRX in for an Ascent (RIP) and that was one thing I never got used to really after owning it for 2+ years.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

ah I am so sorry about that trade!

@kevinnorris6558

4 жыл бұрын

Don’t feel bad, I’ve had my 2018 WRX for a little more than 2 years with only 13k miles on it at the moment. That said, I’m shit at driving stick. I could shift smoothly into all gears but 2nd, which I just can’t master. The best thing I found was to hold the clutch at the engagement point for a second, but I figured that was bad for the clutch so I stopped doing that. Sucks that you got rid of your car but I’m sticking with mine because I’m determined to master driving stick, and I won’t give up.

Definitely risking warranty girbtev hang. The ej2.5 never felt this delayed. Thank you epa and you're lies

How does the rev hang suck

@AutoEnthusiast

4 жыл бұрын

What? It is just a pain and something you have to adjust to if you are used to driving other manuals.

Turn off the hill assist it gets rid of most of the rev hang.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

The only problem is I use hill assist all the time, I live in such a hilly area it would be more of a pain to have it off.

@FIRE8IRD780

5 жыл бұрын

Auto Enthusiast my dad taught me to use the e brake when on a hill. Pull up the e brake while pushing down the release button. Then get started like normal and when you feel the car wanting to move forward pull down the e brake. Took me a little to get used to when I was learning.

@drepop803

5 жыл бұрын

Didnt get rid of my rev hang. Don't like hill assist though. It's my car so i don't roll back much if any. I've gotten used to the rev hang but still don't like it.

@AutoEnthusiast

5 жыл бұрын

why don't you like the hill assist?

@FIRE8IRD780

5 жыл бұрын

Auto Enthusiast I like it it’s a great feature to newbies to manual like me, I haven’t driven manual since 5 years ago when I visited Europe. I am planning to get myself a wrx next month. From what I heard is that the hill assist holds you back a tad before you get going so for someone learning to find the bite point and trying to not stall or make it jump could be a little difficult. Btw thanks for the videos, what kind of exhaust are you planning to get?

Same here...it's intolerable!!

@tiko5876

5 жыл бұрын

jj lad tune it ya wealthy bastard

@jjlad5037

5 жыл бұрын

@@tiko5876….LOL...yes Sir! Right away, Sir!

@tiko5876

5 жыл бұрын

jj lad haha I’m bein facetious. I’m sure that rev hangs a pain in the ass. I can shift myself, fuck a computer.

I took a 2018 out for a test drive one day to kill time and that was the first thing I noticed and it pissed me off so much. You didn't even do the night video like you said you were going to. :( I take back my thumb up.