Omgeng, the fact that there are people dedicated to make content about AoM makes me so happy. Thanks.

I didn't play age of mythology for so long Why am I watching this Why is this so entertaining to me

I always wondered why Elves do not appear in AoM as myth units, as they are quite important in Norse mythology

@schweens

3 жыл бұрын

that's bc elves don't have beard. and that the base requirement for norse recruitment apparently.

@destubae3271

3 жыл бұрын

If they decide Norse are too nerfed, maybe the expansions devs would add an elf type of villager unit

@RocketHarry865

2 жыл бұрын

@@destubae3271 Imagine elfs being a stealthy archer unit

@Prince_Smugarina

2 жыл бұрын

Likely cause there is 2 kinds of Elves, and we'd have to honestly dedicate space for both. Granted, I'd throw out Trolls for Dark Elf Archers under Loki. I mean they had no problem using Dwarfs..... I'd just have them be Archers who can farm better like the dwarfs mine better, and actually do more damage while standing on a farm plot :P

@nnirr1

Жыл бұрын

Initially they passed the tests but then they were dropped because it turned out they had cheated. Those long ears were actually antennas and they had someone telling them all the answers

The Kraken's throwing ability... still amazing to witness :D. Great vid, too.

@arcomegis9999

3 жыл бұрын

Literally, the first myth unit to have its early debut.

Frost Giants get an upgrade that buffs their hp and attack as well as lowering their special recharge time. Not to mention gives them a badass helmet.

@klavicus2276

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah with upgrade they were my most fav Norse unit when I was a kid x)

@imafreakinninja12

9 ай бұрын

Isn't that the helmet that looks like a banana? How can it be badass then?

@jagartharn6361

9 ай бұрын

@@imafreakinninja12 lol its not a banana.

@imafreakinninja12

9 ай бұрын

@@jagartharn6361 Ya but it looks like it. Especially that Folstag guy.

@jagartharn6361

9 ай бұрын

@@imafreakinninja12 chalk it up to AoMs polygonal graphics. This was Ensembles first 3d title after all. Helmet looks badass all the same.

Fenris wolves are only good for late game raiding really. They would annihilate an entire gold or farming operation in seconds.

@thorveim1174

3 ай бұрын

yep and are too fast for anything that could defeat them as well. Though this also make them great rlankers that will devour ranged troops in seconds still overall they are a sad sight for a mythic age only unit

Actually, if you spam like 30 fenris wolves, they become really op because they're great siege units, kill amounts of civilians in seconds and become reeeeally fast, so you can retreat then without losing too much units .

They're all trying their best :) - Loki and Hel

I love the content dude, would be awesome to add costs into the comparison as some units are far more expensive and everyone would benefit from cost effectiveness comparison.

Love this series!

I think it is important to compare the price of each unit, aswell as population cost and training time. If you can have 2 units por the pop of 1, then that's something.

@softwarelivre2389

4 жыл бұрын

Line of Sight (LOS) and movement speed as well. Great video BTW.

@softwarelivre2389

4 жыл бұрын

Also, for ranged units, it is good to test against Atlantean Birds, because those are really good at killing regular myth units, and having a counter-measure is really great.

@softwarelivre2389

4 жыл бұрын

When testing atlantean, the Mythical Renewal upgrade from Hekate is also really helpful, and I think it makes sense to be included.

I contributed and got mentioned in a KZread vodeo! Yay me Nice vid btw!

@Nexotic0

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers for the challenge idea man :D

The Wolves are such much cheaper than fire giants

Great content, hope you keep up and breath some new life to this game! By the way, if you like AoE2, you should watch spirit of the law and copy him a little. The fenris wolf brood test did them hardly any justice imo, because 5 wolves vs 5 fire giants can't really convey the picture. We don't know about their comparative costs; we can compare resource costs tit for tat sure, but favor is a whole other thing. For one, these tests assume it's a mirror match in terms of civ (norse v norse), which makes trading favor intensive units awkward since they generate favor through combat. I think in this mirror scenario your approach should take into account how many units are needed to fight for how long to generate the favor necessary to create the mythical unit. Secondly, you need to take into account villager work time needed to create the unit. This is especially important because this requires a planned strategy as the resource category of the myth unit implies a certain approach to age progression and army composition. If you crank out enough einherjars for instance, you might be able to finish the game early. If you failed to do that, you'd be significantly behind your opponent. You can expand on this by matching the units against units of other civs; since greeks require worship at a temple they'll be sacrificing villager time and that cost also needs to be taken into account. I know all this sounds like overcomplicating things, but it can be made simple as spirit of the law does, which makes him so good.

Would have liked to see pop vs pop with the wolves vs fire giants. You had 25 pop firegiants fight 15 pop of wolves. I think the wolves win in resource and pop efficiency but who knows.

@amauryribeiro1860

3 жыл бұрын

it is very unlikely in a real game you get to make so many mythical units like that!! what was missing is taking into account the cost of the unit, the wolf is much cheaper ...

@gamgamesplayer4506

6 ай бұрын

​@@amauryribeiro1860Loki hersir spam

I recently played through the Golden Gift campaign. Scenario #2 is a purely naval map that made me really appreciate (Trench) Krakens.

In static combat melee myth units like mountain giants and similar unit are going to be way better while in practise high movespeed units and ranged units are always going to be better simply because faster units can pick favourable fights, and ranged units because they can kite like you said but they can also abuse terrain and building more heavily. The mobility is also extra important for myth units because they tend to be quite expensive.

You need more views, this is high quality

@Nexotic0

4 жыл бұрын

I have a main channel with 38K subs :p maybe thats why kzread.info/dron/RCAZyzIDJLwgBWh805AToQ.html

I think two more test was also required. 1. Population gap - fire giant is 5. Fenris wolf 3. 2. Resource gap -Fire Giant 300 gold & 35 favor. Fenris wolf 150 gold & 15 favor. Besides that great video. Thank you for uploading.

With AoM Retold coming out, I'm expecting this kind of content to see a resurgence, which would be well deserved given all the work you put in to this!

@Nexotic0

Жыл бұрын

It's a shame i'm so busy with my main channel or i'd definitely come back to make some more. Still love this game just can't find time to make videos :)

Loved this video. Great fun.

Damn this is the exact kind of breakdown I've been looking for

this is the content i was looking for on youtbue

thanks for the video, we should consider the speed of the unit, for example battleboar and wolfbrood can ride wich others cant

Nice testing. I would suggest making comparissons against same kind of armies.

THANK YOU this is amazing!

@Nexotic0

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it!

Notice how Norse culture places an emphasis on ships and naval units more than the other 2. And yet, the Norse campaign have absolutely no usage for water missions.

@starcraft2own

3 жыл бұрын

That's not really true. The greeks were quite the naval people, moreso than the norse i would say. Not to mention the fact that greeks were quite incredible at naval combat. They would wipe the floor with any norse attackers for sure. The norse were explorers and traders through sea, the greek were naval fighters and it wouldn't surprise me if they invented the concept of marines.

@arcomegis9999

3 жыл бұрын

I've had my Hellenistic days. Now, I want some Norse action. Just wanted to see those longboats in action and the Krakens Tendrils making waves.

these are so good! it's really rare to find someone like me playing the original AoM 😂😂😂

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

I use it because some things work better in the Original tbh

@benhambley7820

3 жыл бұрын

@@Nexotic0 thank you for making these, just found your videos and these are fun :) love this game.

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

@@benhambley7820 Might make more in the future!

@Cyber-Rain

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nexotic0 bit of a late comment but can you see how powerful you can make units and buildings with upgrades and relics?

@Nexotic0

2 жыл бұрын

@@Cyber-Rain perhaps. I have ideas listed but im focusing on my main channel currently

Like it so far. But Id like more of a stats, visible and hidden, comparison and a use comparison. For example, the fenrir and boar are ysed very different to the giants. Point system is nice. But actual uses and situations, and gow resource efficient they are, is more informative, i think.

I think you should have put in the competition the Niddhog dragon, even if you can't really produce it... Just as a small comparison as it is still a myth unit ^^ but anyway it's a good serie your comparisons are useful!

Hippolyta has the stress on the -o- in english, but the original greek had it on the ypsilon. General rule for greek words is "third to the last syllable" with exceptions usually being long vowels which count as two syllables.

I really like how the norse mythic age culminates in ragnarok.

I knew it, my all-purpose battle combo is (playing as Loki): 4x longhouse spamming Hersir 1x fort spamming Huskarl 1x temple spamming Mountain + Fire Giants The hersir keeps an steady income of favor + spawns random myth units. The fire giants act as ranged/siege units. They usually prevail in battle and are the last to die. The mountain giants are the front wall of the army; they wreck walls and buildings, making way for the hersir to do their job. The huskarl protects the hersir from enemy archers. It works pretty well.

The giants are great. They are unique one from another and fun to use.

Someone has probably said this before but units like Ulfsark, priests and Hesir only have 3 attack in the first age and the Greek heroes and every hero in general are very weak in the first age compared to the later ages so the tests would be very different if the heroes were the in the equal age to the myth units they are fighting but I understand you can't get the triggers working in the editor. :)

@Nexotic0

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah otherwise I would've upgraded em

needed cost effectivenes and commeting on micro management like frost giant's freeze ability could game changer and speed and raiding ability needed as well

Btw to select triggers u have to minimise the game and it then works or tab out on the menu

Nice series man. I wish they would make AoM remastered.

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

Isnt AoE 2 remastered?

I've been thinking for over a decade about how underrated mountain giants are

6:02 battle boar is primary imo and frost giants are anti myth and mountain giant are for siege and critical backstab attack (raiding)...

My favorite thing on Norse was to build to population capacity and send all the villagers to die. Then build an army ENTIRELY of Fenris Wolf Brood.

you forgot the most important aspect: unit cost therefor your whole rating is pointless until you take the cost into consideration

There should be a test based on costs of the units (if a Fenris wolf cost 3 or 4 times or almost that price than the fire giant then it should be 3-4 wolves vs 1 giant). You could possibly also do this vs human units but idk if there is a way to compare favor vs other resources.

I almost cried when I heard you couldn’t see your triggers. It happened to me years ago

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

it's a really annoying bug :(

@Thundermikeee

3 жыл бұрын

so you were triggered by a lack of triggers?

This reminds me of that terrifying horn.

@mrgaudy1954

3 жыл бұрын

pls no, reminds me of that mission when you're trapped in a blizzard

When it came to my Norse gameplay, ignoring when I was forced Loki. Thor and Odin results, in Freya for Valkyries(I like mobile healing), Frost Giants, and because Baldr's Power is a double-edged sword, I'd use Tyr for the Wolf Packs.

I’m no good player as I only play against bots heheh. But I have to say this, the norse have the best myth units, if you stack a bunch of wolves or a bunch of fire giants you can destroy anything. But maybe that’s also related to how hard it is to get favor when you’re a norse

0:43 just want to mention: you have two times a 3rd age symbol at the list instead of a 2nd age symbol

The fact frost giant lost to mountain giants shows how flawed head to head testing is. The frost giant is perhaps the best myth unit in the game period. Still a fun comparison, these flaws make me appreciate spirit of the law's tests for AoE2 even more tbh

Is it possible for flying myth units that can attack (i.e. the Atlantean Stymphalian Bird, the Egyptian Phoenix, and the Norse Nidhogg) to engage in a "dogfight?" In other words, can a flying myth unit that can attack damage another flying myth unit? If so, can you do a video that shows how they fare against each other?

@RoosSkywalker

Жыл бұрын

Yes

love the 1vs1 but shouldnt you apply the gods bonuses on the units.i think some major one give bonuses to myth units so if you want to give more detail :P

Second video in a row you called Atlanta a myth unit. Also, if you want advice from aom stats guru (me), then here it is: to realise, how good/bad a unit actually is, you need compare stats per pop, not the whole unit. Look at the game like neo at matrix - behind the visual illusion it's just numbers. So if unit takes 5pop, you need to divide his stats to five, except armor percentages and multipliers. You know what im saying? You need to compare 15 fenris wolfs vs 9 fire giants, not 5 vs 5, etc. Spoiler alert: Chimera is best overall* myth unit in the entire game. P.s. it's murmiLO, not murmiLYO P.s.s. if your editor menu is bugged and not allowing you to upgrade units, you need to change resolution to more retro size.

Elephants were OP back them, used to spawn them in multiplayer just like the goth infantary spawn in AOE II.

U should count things as resource cost, speed, etc

2:42 Ah yes, the iconic heroic age unit valkyrie

Can I see a big battle in age of mythology with many units

which is the strongest myth unit over all like the most strongest ?

great

Its pronounced "eyenHERRyar" lol not "jar"

@arcomegis9999

3 жыл бұрын

I heard there's a female youtuber who did videos of accurate Northern Europe pronounciation. Even she is laughing at us at our effort.

The problem os that you made really bad tests, you should make all the fights in equal population, not different

@destubae3271

3 жыл бұрын

Yep, e.g. centaurs are essentially elite human soldiers that need numbers

Unfair with Fenrir! Theyr stronger is when they are on group of wolves! Try to put 15 together and see how fast they move around map and destroy everything

The sit back relax and enjoy is giving me serial killer vibes

@Nexotic0

Жыл бұрын

LMAO

You should try the extended version from steam

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

I own it :)

Strong unit is Fire Giant. The coolest unit is Einherjar. Battle Boar is funny:)

@einherjar8147

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@arthurm.8007

3 жыл бұрын

Mountain giant is much cooler than Einherjar

i'm surprised you didn't consider cost whatsoever

There is a detail that I don't like. The nords lack of healing if you Choose Heimdall as Odin you troops will only accumulate wounds

Number should weighted by cost dont you think?

in groups the Fire Giants are ridicolously powerful (OP), they basically have no weak points. More or less is the same for Chimeras, but Fire Giants do even fire (even though Chimera moves fast, which somewhat makes up for being melee)

Fire giant is very OP, but cast 360-400 gold, but fenris 130-170 gold. For 1100 gold you can make 2 Fire giants or 7 fenris but fenris is stronger and faster when they are many Battleboar is strong agains many army. Frost giant has very OP magic if he fight 1vs1. For buildings best unit is Mountain giant

Bro can you make norse vs greek vs egypt

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

in time :)

are you the Spirit of the law for AOM?

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

I believe he goes a little more in-depth than I do sometimes :P

i find wolfs amazing hit an run

10:35 *BONK* *BONK*

Is it any wonder the Valk is the best?

I believe it is pronounced "Einheryar"

HAMMATROLL!!! this ugly thing has amazing range, good damage and can tank quite a bit... Also good speed.. it has everything you need to mix with your infantary.

TL;DR: Fire Giants are really, really good.

👍

I think you also need to factor in the cost of these units

Ayn-her-yar Einherjar Kai-mare-ah Chimera

I just have a big confusion and doubt The Age Of Mythology is an old game That is it is playable even on old computers Like i had a PC with a Floppy Disk(that much old) and a hard disk of 40gb and 1GB Ram I can play Age Of Mythology on that computer itself Don't know about the Frame Rates and Resolution because I was a kid at that time but still playable It doesn't get any updates and so is still old He says the game lags and is choppier when upgraded units Lag? How come lag for an old game Even though you have an old computer I have played it in a computer having Floppy Disk! Could you or anyone solve me the doubt like What does he mean by Lag and Choppy?

I am greek but i like Norses more than Greeks in Age of mythology😅😅 I like Raiding Cavalry they make damage against all units😮😮.

This is fun, but you're completely neglecting the units' cost and recruit time, which is kinda odd. Specially in a Fire Giant vs. Fenris Wolf Brood situation.

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

I improve on this in the later ones haha

Skadi can actually give you access to a frost giant improvement, and hel is... well, she gives all giants +200 hit points through an improvement (too bad loki players cannot worship skadi :c darn)

The one who disliked had got defeated against computer in easy 1v1

@King-Laszlo-TheHonorable

3 жыл бұрын

Rojalin Mohanty the other 3 are his alt. account

@rojalinmohanty4932

3 жыл бұрын

@@King-Laszlo-TheHonorable 🤣🤣🤣

@butter5144

3 жыл бұрын

😂

Prostagma?

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

Etimos

yeah mountain giant and fire giant is more situational.

lol a i did the same thing when i was 12 :D

Where is nidhogg?

@Nexotic0

3 жыл бұрын

its a godpower myth unit, didn't include it.

the titan is the strongest myth unit (?

@Nexotic0

2 жыл бұрын

I mean technically yeah, but titans classify as titans :p unfair obv

A pack of fenris wolves is the strongest army ever , not against flying enemies obviously

Their best unit is the war mammoth

@Mr-je2jr

3 жыл бұрын

You mean Battle Boar

If we were to select a god based on these results, it seems Odin is superior

@juresaiyan

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds legit

you dutch?

@Nexotic0

4 жыл бұрын

Ja dat ben ik

@jammydeangeway3780

4 жыл бұрын

@@Nexotic0 je hoort het bijna niet maar toch merkte ik het :) awesome

@Nexotic0

4 жыл бұрын

@@jammydeangeway3780 Ik heb als kind 4j in London gewoond, das misschien waarom ^^

It's murmillo not murmillio

Summary: Vakyrie, Mountain Giant, Fire Giant are the strongest myth units in the norse army. Meanwhile Troll, Boar and Wolf are considered the weakest myth units in the norse army. Kraken is the better dock destroyer but the serpent is better at killing enemy combatants both on land and in water.

First comment and view

@thehiruko5808

4 жыл бұрын

Or second. Yes, second view

Einherjar is pronounced " en-hair-yar "