Heyo everyone. This project has been a bit of a mess, it was a lot of fun to test and build....BUT I did leave the project for about a month due to time constraints. This means it was a bit of a unique experience to make the video, and to actually finish editing it. Here are some extra links for you: The Wallpaper: i.imgur.com/32y9U4R.png The Livestream from the PC: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dKVns9mTgNXLfag.html

@Ben_mgsp

3 жыл бұрын

Alternate title the retro space heater with the Matrox gpu

@andljoy

3 жыл бұрын

You think that mouse support disabled after a game install is odd, if i plug the USB hub on my monitor into my 16 core threadripper system it bricks my windows 10 install :P

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

@@andljoy Windows™️

@fransiscusyogibramono296

3 жыл бұрын

remembering those s423 times 😍

@Dimondminer11

3 жыл бұрын

1:47 but you know what would be even more overkill? An AGP ATi HD 4670.... which I own and will be using in an Athlon 64 x2 build.

Local English man has a mental breakdown after fable starts playing random midi sounds in his house.

@jean-charlesweyland129

3 жыл бұрын

Now we know what happened to Syd Barrett...

@EvilTurkeySlices

3 жыл бұрын

It sounds like when my Pokémon red game crashes.

@moomaroach0001

Жыл бұрын

what

Early 2000s GPUs in a nutshell nVidia: I have SLi ATi: I have value Matrox: I have image quality

@AliceC993

3 жыл бұрын

S3: Guuuys, stop laughing at me!

@ali_new_world

3 жыл бұрын

Me who only knows nVidia: 🙂

@sgcs

3 жыл бұрын

idk if u know but theres a 2 year difference between the Parhelia and the first nvidia gpu series that support sli.

@Russell970

3 жыл бұрын

@@sgcs I know, The nVidia 6000 series, But that's why I didn't specify the years, Just said early 2000s.

@Versuffe

3 жыл бұрын

Amd: you guys make GPUs? Meanwhile... (Spoiler: amd makes GPUs)

Love the idea that a Pentium 4 system will be in the steam hardware survey, you would be surprised how many single core 1gb ram systems appear in that survey though

Some mad 2010 after school vibes rn

Petition for him to make a couple videos about vintage audio like the receiver in the back at 1:27 (beside the boom box one)

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

It'd just be me making cassettes at that point.

@MrRobot-ry7ky

3 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Something like Analog (OG Cassette recorded back in the day from an analog source) vs Digital might be interesting. And just you recording cassettes wouldn't be bad either, I can't seem to figure out how to make them sound properly. Whenever I record them there's either popping, or white noise, or just something to make it sound bad. There are people who are still interested in vintage audio and who would happily watch such videos is all I'm saying.

@MJ-uk6lu

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRobot-ry7ky Use dolby noise reduction and quality tape. Everything is already covered by Techmoan and Technology Connections.

@MrRobot-ry7ky

3 жыл бұрын

@@MJ-uk6lu Dolby actually makes it sound worse in my case. With Dolby it sounds as if the channels are slightly over-recorded onto one another, a sound similar to reel to reel when the tape isn't properly tensioned on the head, I don't know how else to describe it.

@MJ-uk6lu

3 жыл бұрын

@@MrRobot-ry7ky I have heard some things about analog recorders needing some adjustments to be made from time to time for them to work properly. Perhaps yours need that too.

I'm watching this on a Pentium 4 (small form factor desktop computer) which I've purpose built to let me watch modern video streams on a CRT TV! I just prefer old tvs, so I've been using this as my tv rig for 7 years now (was old enough to be free when I got it)

@elfedorausado

3 жыл бұрын

I remember the great picture quality of Sony Trinitrons

04:35 WTF, I have NEVER EVER in my ENTIRE LIFE heard the long version of The Sims 1 Action TV-channel song for more than it goes in the game! That is sooooo crazy, I have heard that song in the video game for over 14 years now! Thanks for sharing, haha!

Ahh yes, internet explorer 6, the best browser to get literally anything else.

@CarbonatedLithium

3 жыл бұрын

MyPal is the browser to get for Windows XP

The early 2000s Matrox cards were the dream card for Linux users, because it was the only one with open source accelerated 3D drivers

MGS1 bricking your PC? That sounds like the work of Psycho Mantis.

I can already tell that it was worth the wait.

Dang, I'm being reminded of how often I installed Windows XP back in the day. Such a nice operating system.

@Elenrai

Жыл бұрын

It was such a nice time, good way to make pocket money as a tech savy kid too!

Yay! Little more than an hour, but I'll refrain from calling my lawyer.

@17473039

3 жыл бұрын

Found the non-american

@blackpete

3 жыл бұрын

@@17473039I don't think you could guess, where I'm from. Try. 😏

@17473039

3 жыл бұрын

@@blackpete Germany

@sebaschan-uwu

3 жыл бұрын

@@17473039 lmao

@panderman447

3 жыл бұрын

@@17473039 no netherlands

Old PC with any cable management seems odd

@xaenon

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't take it to like the super-obsessive level we have today, but I did try to keep the cabling somewhat tidy when doing a new build or upgrading an older rig. Of course, back then, most folks didn't really go out of their way to show off the interior of their PCs, and certainly didn't go out of their ways to have lightshows. Though I'll admit I was happy when SATA became a thing. Those old flat IDE cables were not easy to keep 'tidy' with most AT and early ATX machines.

@thej3799

2 жыл бұрын

The way they make cases now are so nice and yet like my motherboard is high-end LGA 775 and the case is a lian li. I put this together out of like parts I could find and stuff on eBay My last computer had antec p180. I love that case. But there wasn't really good cable management The power supply was in a strange place The hard drives were in a strange place and a strange orientation and the typical length cables which by then were parallel ATA but wrapped still had trouble reaching everything so I bought a SATA raid card and yes it was software raid for the most part, but it actually supported all the new features like native command queuing and all that stuff and I put together my first volume over a terabyte which I thought was incredible using the four drives and raid 5. The SATA cabling was just so much better I still had to use PATA for boot but cases now you can hide the entire rats nest on the back and yeah without those weird retro future b450 motherboards it does look weird especially since I have modified in AIO cooler but the cable management by itself it's just so much better The only thing missing that I used to have was a blue cold cathode tube, in its place I have some Corsair LED fans not RGB since I don't have RGB headers but I did pick a nice color. Even the cooling is much better because you can line the entire front with fans in the entire top whereas back in the day you might have one of the back one of the front one at the top and even then rarely would you put one in the front. As weird as it is case design has improved by leaps and bounds it was not difficult to connect the USB 3 ports with a PCI express 1x USB 3 card. I want to build a max p4 on the socket before LGA 775 but I don't remember if any of them had PC Express.

Pentium 4: * exists * Budget: *Its free real estate*

@tj71520

3 жыл бұрын

Laughs in 8 free Pentium 4 computers I got for free back in 2006. I could have gotten twice as many but my wife said no

@xentiment6581

3 жыл бұрын

@@tj71520 lmao i got box full of useless celeron ds that i just cant throw away.

@tj71520

3 жыл бұрын

@@xentiment6581 Pentium 4, core2duo and athlons makes great retro computers. But okay I must admit that I do have a bit of a hardware fetisch. Both New and old computer hardware.

@xentiment6581

3 жыл бұрын

@@tj71520 Im same mate, exactly the same.

@tj71520

3 жыл бұрын

@@xentiment6581 Nice to Know that its not just me :-) I Also use them. Just the other day I played Some older games on a win xp dell. There are quite a feW good old games that doesnt like win 10. Nice to Meet a kindred spirit mate.

Even in its hay day navigating the internet with XP with out getting a virus was like playing minesweeper without any idea what your doing.

@McShave

3 жыл бұрын

Oddly enough, browsing the internet in 2021 on a fully updated XP (further patched integral edition) and a still updated XP browser like Serpent or Mypal with ublock origin legacy is pretty painless. XP just isn't targeted anymore as it is used by such a small percentage of users. 0.7% or thereabouts. It's completely different from the old days. 2004 browsing with internet explorer was like...open browser.....ten seconds later.....you now have 5 taskbars and the pornads won't stop popping up and every link redirects you to some other virus ridden site. Why is there a scantily clad woman dancing in the corner of my screen? Where is that sound coming from, what is this registration form. Yep time to nuke this install again.

@CigsInABlanket

2 жыл бұрын

@@McShave I remember the elementary school computers getting a virus that would cause popups featuring beastiality that you couldn't get rid of. And then they expect us to grow up to be normal people, lmao.

@V1CT1MIZED

2 жыл бұрын

@@McShave it’s funny that XP still has nearly the same amount of users as Linux

@xaenon

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, you're supposed to know what you're doing in Minesweeper?

@tobiwonkanogy2975

2 жыл бұрын

@@V1CT1MIZED im thinking about going from windows 10 to xp full update to be able to get more frames on the back up pc . its got 4 gb of 800 mhz ram ,an intel 1.6ghz e1240, and Nvidia gt 440 1.5 gb ddr3 , a 60 gb ssd. some games really struggle with the low cache and high background usage . maybe linux as well.

Running old systems is a nightmare. I was installing 98 on old terminal-style of PC. It kept throwing me blue screens. I gave up. Came back week later. It worked.....

@lordterra1377

3 жыл бұрын

Loose cable or dirty ram could cause that. Old systems are certainly more finicky.

The Pentium 4 seems to bridge the gap between retro and modern gaming

@muhammedaljerari391

3 жыл бұрын

they even supported 64 bit operating systems!

@aftertheelectrike1847

3 жыл бұрын

@@muhammedaljerari391 * Some Pentium 4s didn't. Even many with 64 bit and NX-bit and all that have no support for certain 64 bit OSes.

24:38 when that soundblaster hits

Some Matrox love, finally.

@johncate9541

3 жыл бұрын

A Parhelia deserves better than being shoved into a Socket 423 system.

@OfficialDJSoru

3 жыл бұрын

@@johncate9541 Paired a 256mb one with a Socket 478 and tried to run Battlefield 1942 on 1024x768... I don't call 15fps smooth, and putting it on 800x600 didn't improve much either. Is this just something related to how the card handles OpenGL or was it always this bad on DX as well? The Mystique was great though.

I remember seeing a high end system like a socket 423 Pentium 4, 1.5 ghz, with 256 mb of rdram and a geforce 2 gpu in PC world magazines in January of 2001. However, my very first gaming PC that I built around this time actually had a 1.0 ghz Pentium III cpu with 256 mb of pc133 ram, a 32 mb geforce 2 gpu with creative sound blaster card, and for the operating system, I originally had Windows ME on it, then I later upgraded it to Windows XP in the fall of 2002.

I loved to see this skt 423 content, i wish to have something like this, but my dream still going for 2.0Ghz version + 2GB Rambus + best nvidia agp card with hardware acceleration to try to play some multimedia content

@johns3655

3 жыл бұрын

Unless you have easy access, agp cards have gotten really expensive as collectibles, it might be easier to find pci cards like the rage pci on amazon

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

AGP is getting very hard to get ahold of, I’d suggest trying to grab some Matrox stuff while it’s still under the radar. Awesome feature set albeit lacking in performance sometimes.

@PKmuffdiver

3 жыл бұрын

Your dream lives in my basement. But my Nvidia AGP 6600 died. : (

@lolfunnycp

3 жыл бұрын

It's definitely possible, I grabbed one of the few 2 ghz chips left and put it into a Dell Dimension 8100 with 1.5gb RDRAM and a MX 440 (far from the best AGP nvidia lol); it plays this video at 360p and I left a comment from it a couple minutes ago lol

@EvilTurkeySlices

3 жыл бұрын

I have an AGP HD 2600 Pro in my Athlon XP machine, it runs games better than most of the older Nvidia cards(and still has all features enabled under the XP drivers) I’ve even installed windows 7 with aero and have watched modern KZread videos(when KZread supported the older Firefox)

Watching this brings back many memories of setting up these systems when they were new.... Oddly enough I have no desire to build one again, but it was enjoyable to watch..

That's amazing. I have dozens of socket 478 P4; I hadn't even realized there was a P4 chip on Socket 423 until your last video, and now seeing it even be able to (barely) run WIndows 7!

I was way too poor to chase specs with the way moore's law was back then. This is awesome to see stuff I was never able to use

The problem I have with Pentium 4 retro builds is that I still think of the P4 as "modern", so I end up asking too much out of it, get mad it can't and put it away.

with that music playing I was expecting you to slide across the finished case with your bottom just like they used to do in Starsky and Hutch.

I'm not actually watching the video at the moment, I'm saving it for later, like a treat

i love the use of sim city music in a lot of your videos

Nice video as usual. I like to see Matrox get some love as that company's Millennium was my first "real" graphics card.

Loved them old Matrox cards.

I built a socket 423 retro PC for windows 98 gaming about 2 years ago. Used a 1.7GHz P4 cpu and a geforce4 Ti 4400 along with a sound blaster live. It's a very stable and competent system. Never had a single issue in 2 years. I like how unique the build is, and the hardware is relatively cheap (at least it was last time I checked). Socket 423 gets no love, but it should given how affordable it is, and how well suited it is for windows 98 games.

Your videos are awesome, as always. Thank you!

A cracking video, made all the more relatable by the hysteria that set in at about 24m30s. Well done good sir, carry on :)

Heyy, we're glad to have you back after your vacation, great video from what i can see :D

@BudgetBuildsOfficial

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldnt call it a vacation. But it certainly was a January with no videos. Glad to be back making videos :D

@QuickS4nd

3 жыл бұрын

@@BudgetBuildsOfficial Yeah, i know what you're talking about, i was joking about the vacation thing, i know that time can be pressing sometimes, and making these videos is no easy stuff, it can take hours to make, let alone the editing, rendering, uploading etc.

@QuickS4nd

3 жыл бұрын

Also, thank you for the reply! Forgot to mention that.

Haha just recognized the music. Absolutely love it, even more than SimCity 2013 :D

Great video mate. As usual, your delivery is very entertaining. As a tech channel, yours is the only one I watch the videos more than once.

a classic channel nothing changed from 2017! Still love it

Great vid, and great music, sounds like leftover incidental music from an episode of Starsky and Hutch...

I really don't know where you get the patience, and I've formatted a lot of systems... Keep up the great work!

It is so good to see you uploading, hopefully we will see more videos soon :)

Keep up the good work fella and stay safe.

Nice taste of music (nirvana unplugged in NY cassette) favorite album

That looks so awesome!

How it is overkill? When the Parhelia came out in 2002, Geforce 4 cards and even the older Radeon 8500 were faster and P4 were already well above 2Ghz. It may be overkill for playing games older than the Parhelia, but that GPU even struggled to run contemporary titles.

24:38 when the pc tries to communicate with the outside world

I had an overkill PC from this era! (Well, maybe a year or two earlier)... It was a Win2K Dell Dimension with a 1.7GHz Willamette P4, GeForce 2 Ultra, Turtle Beach Santa Cruz sound card, 768MB RAMBUS, dual DVD drives (one burner) and a 20GB hard drive (later upgraded to a 160GB drive during an XP upgrade). The thing was a monster for it's time! I always wanted to max it out with 2GB RAM, an AGP GeForce 6 series and put Windows 7 on it with aero running in all it's glory, but the thing died before I had a chance.

Nice build, + for Nirvana Unplugged i love this cassette, i almost forgot this socket for PIV :)

Damn right, not sorry! That's awesome you uploaded those old ass system specs! XD

23:02 'Caused me a few issues....shoes' XD Great video though! Keep it up!

been waiting for a new video for months guess its finally time to hear that legendary intro music...

Nice touch there with the streets of simcity music :)

love the sim city background music

Ahh, back when installing Windows took up most of your afternoon.

Even when sometimes i don't understand but i have a feeling that i have to keep watching

Loved the stereo also !

Love the Parhelia. Got one NOS last year for my PIII based Windows 2000 rig. Paid far too much for it but it's a thing of beauty.

Another amazing video!

Would be super cool to see a build video like this for LGA775! :)

I'm about to embark on a socket 423 build myself, and enjoyed watching your video. Oddly enough, I was thinking if you haven't tried running this PC on Win98, you are probably not truly getting the best experience out of your CPU and motherboard. I'm planning on giving Win98 a go myself, and I intend to build the "ultimate" Win98 Pc (as my spare parts bin allows). Probably an Aureal Vortex 2 for sound, and I was planning on using an Asus Geforce graphics card that supported their "3d" glasses. A neat toy I've never had the chance to enjoy. Anyhow, I appreciate your work here and will learn from your experiences should I decide to make this a dual boot system. Cheers! 🥃

Yay! We have been waiting for this one.

Finally, a new video! Awesome!

Motherbord from my own country! Witajcie polacy ! :)

@luluthecat1570

3 жыл бұрын

İ have a polish friend

Mate your vids are brilliant 👏

775 socket Pentium 4, was the moment that I felt I was living in the future of computer gaming. I remember thinking "it cant get any better than this."

Well worth the wait! Reminds me of the days I'd use Limewire to download hacked versions of Limewire Pro and absolutely destroy the family PCs in the process. Can't wait for the next video!

This was about the time I turned into a PC enthusiast. Nostalgic. My first build had a Intel Pentium 4 Processor 670 socket 775.

Woohoo, more budget builds 😁😁

I see Matrox.... RIP, the first graphics card I bought with my own money was the Matrox G400. I remember when we heard rumors of the Matrox G800

Thanks for being the best tech channel

Yeah I still remember some of the old hardware I used to run on my socket 370,423,478 setups. Hmmm Voodoo 3dfx, Iomega Zip drive, Plextor CD burner and my favorite Creative Soundblaster Extigy, those were the days lol!

Hey you forgot to install the IO shield. Anyway good video and like the music choice.

Welcome back Mr.BBO

I remember reading about the Matrox Parhelia 512 MB with 3 monitor support and was completely blown away

these disco beats are the jamz

Good choice of music unplugged is the best

the music round 5-6 minutes is a trip, i couldnt tell if i was in the 80s or bout to raise my KD ratio.

Hey at least he had fun on this build I can tell also he has some nostalgia towards these components I can tell good on you BB

Turns out I *am* one of those three over-excited people. 😬

24:45 -You win the fake laugh of the year. Big winna.

Nice. In my pre-/early teens and after my first 3D card Voodoo1 I always had Matrox accelerator cards in my computer for years: Millennium G200, G400, G550… because I was able to get them basically for free through my close relative. Rest of my system probably never was quite up to the latest hardware, but at least graphics card was there. Only issue with them and I’m not sure if issue was with Matrox or me as a user, but when it came to gaming, you had to wait some time for updated drivers to run latest games properly. I think they had some driver issues when compared to competitors.

I like the the sims soundtrack in the background

Finally someone reviews my gaming rig. Been a devil to find any opinion on it on youtube

One of my very first PC's that I "modded" (meaning: changing everything, except the motherboard and the CPU/cooler) was an old HP Vectra "VL420" SFF machine that had a 1.6 GHz "Willamette". I ran both Windows and Linux on it and it was a smooth machine. I remember eventually retiring the machine with a bit of sadness.

love the nirvana unplugged cassette man

That was the most epic pentium 4 build that ever i saw

The processor out in the wind by the birdbath made me laugh!

Music sounds like its from a 70s UK Cop show... great stuff!

@MarkColemanRules

3 жыл бұрын

I meant US

@apefish2266

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/loWrltlyh8q-k7Q.html i found the link music

Hey man; back in the day we had P4s, they cost a lot new and we were grateful! ;P

My first Intel CPU ran at 3 GHz because I wanted to use windows (XP) and the best way to do that is a system with a bunch of spare clock cycles

Aha the fun days. Sound issue - try in another slot as PCI slots would share IRQ's with onboard I/O. I should dig out my SB live 5.1 platinum - now that would be overkill for this. Also XP you have some settings in device manager that help DMA and IRQ, do not recall which ones in device tree you need to change but go thru them and see what settings they have. But then this is the era of plug and pray, so you had to get your hands dirty. Oh disabling parallel port/serial etc that your not using in bios also helps with those IRQ's.

amazing video again

Loved that MTV Unplugged Nirvana Cassette at 1:41.

I have that same motherboard, haven't played with it yet. Just by chance I ran into your Video. (Subscribed)

This brings back memories I miss the good old Athlon XP the cores would crack if someone sneezed 10 yards away and good old artic silver 3and how it was conductive under heat sink pressure... Also hail the dawn of GeForce and ATI Radeon gpus... Rambunctious rdRam was the bane of my existence at the time it was the dawn of darkness memory... retro is k6-2 &3 cpus.. yes I'm an AMD guy and always will be....

For most of those games you used the early P4 was really on it's last legs at that point. The latter P4s that came out had basically double the clock speed of the one you have there. The Pentium 4 HT came out around xmas 2002 and was just monumentally faster. Imagine if today you had a 10900K at like 4.8GHz and then Intel two years later releases something that does 9.6GHz because that was basically the equivalent performance boost on paper.

I have Windows XP system, with northwood 478 @3 ghz, 4 gb of crucial ram, ssd, Radeon HD 4650, and a bunch else. I joke it's "one of the fastest slow computers" . Of my 6 machines it's my favorite and I use it for modern tasks often instead of firing up a modern machine. It really is a sweet spot in tech

Man people really love to hate on the P4. I LOVED my P4--it was one of the best computers I've ever had, and I used it for a really long time, skipping the Core2 days until I finally got a 1st gen i7.

I love how a lot of people think tech is pricy but you can built pcs out of cheap parts it might not be the greatest but still fun to play around with