The Story of Trenton Speedway-DESTINATION ANYWHERE

On this episode of Destination Anywhere, we're going to travel back in time to examine the rise and fall of the Trenton Speedway, once located in Mercer County, New Jersey.
Originally the grounds for local livestock trading, a horse track was added around the turn of the century. By the 1950s, the fairgrounds would see a boom in auto racing as the best in the world would come to Trenton to compete on a yearly basis. In 1969, the track was repaved and expanded to a mile and half with the addition of a dog-leg right turn. While thousands would come to the area every year to attend the state fair and auto races, attendance would eventually decline and by the 1980s the property was auctioned off and the track and its grandstands were demolished. Now, there is a Walmart, sculpture park and UPS facility on the old grounds.
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Archival footage used in this historical piece by fair use from the George Estock Archives by way of Trenton Speedway DVD produced by Motorsport Video Production, Mike O'Brien.
Photo Credits:
1:56-Aerial Shot-Hardifer Collection/Hagley
2:03-Race track-Hardifer Collection
2:11-Wright Brothers-James Hamid Jr.
2:25-George Hamid-James Hamid, Jr
2:52-George Hamid-James Hamid, Jr
3:02-Racers-Hardifer Collection
3:18-Dirt Track-Trentonia Department, Trenton Free Public Library
3:23-Wally Campbell-Hardifer Collection
3:40-Paving-Lengenfelder Collection
6:24-George Jr-James Hamid, Jr
6:33-Track photo-Steve Mervish-Lengenfelder Collection
7:04-7:29-Track demo-Lengenfelder Collection
8:44-Individuals on roof-Lengenfelder Collection

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  • @reyaliceajr69
    @reyaliceajr69 Жыл бұрын

    Has a kid I can remember going to the last race. I attended the fairgrounds a few times. If I remember about ten years ago. I did an album on Facebook about Trenton Speedway So after the track finally closed. My friends and I would sneak in and ride our bikes around the whole track. It was super cool and long lol. It was also mid summer so super hot. That we were jumping in the pond. People said that race cars ended up in the pond. It was awesome times and proud of the Trenton History. Thank you!!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your story, Rey! Those sound like some good old times. I think someone told me some dead circus animals were in that pond as well but then again I have heard a few different stories about it. I also heard some of the dirt was mined to help build Rt. 295. Either way, thanks for watching and following!

  • @markmccarty7898
    @markmccarty7898 Жыл бұрын

    That was a great video! I was born in 71 and my mother had a friend who lived on one of the side roads off of Klockner Rd. on the east side of the track. Of course it was a dead end road as the track was right there at the end of the street. I vaguely remember being at my mom's friends during certain events and of course all I ever wanted to do is make my way through the two big fences/barricades just so that I could get a good view of the track. I succeed a couple of times, but would always get in trouble with my parents. I always tell friends of mine about the track that live in other parts of NJ and they have no idea of the history. Today I even drive my wife by there and tell her as we drive into what is a development of homes and townhouses that this is where the dead end started and back so many years we would actually be driving in the track if it still existed. I can remember hanging out one time during an event and there was a big opening in one of the fences where someone got through and into the track. They ran to the other side and came ran back. It was so cool! I also remember going to that track on a elementary school trip to see the circus one day. As a kid I had always wanted to see a full race, but unfortunately never did, but living in Hamilton I can remember always hearing the roar of the engines from a distance. Always fascinated by this track and as much as I do not know this video confirms that what I did know and tell my friends was true. Now I have this video to share with them.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark, I'm so happy to have helped trigger so many great memories for you. Thanks for sharing your stories, I love hearing these. Also, thanks for checking out the video!

  • @johnwyckoff3989
    @johnwyckoff39893 жыл бұрын

    This was so awesome at 8:43 - 8:47 that was me other family members and friends on the roof of the house. The home was by brother-in-laws parents house. Many a time watched races from that rooftop. Thanks so much for this,

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    John, I'm so happy to hear this! When I was putting this together, I went back and forth about whether to use that photo or not an ultimately decided I needed to. I'm so happy you were able to recognize it and I hope it brought back some awesome memories!

  • @markt926

    @markt926

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickeyShuffle hi Mickey. Hi , we also have some movies of the old Roadsters at Trenton racing,wish you could see them,old & in color.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome. Wish I would have known before! Thanks for watching!

  • @craigmartin392
    @craigmartin3922 жыл бұрын

    I GREW UP ON THAT PROPERTY, MY DADS AUTO BODY SHOP WAS LOCATED BEHIND THE MAIN GRANDSTANDS, MY GRANDFATHER'S ONLY JOB HE HAD HIS WHOLE LIFE WAS THE HEAD OF BUILDING AND GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AT THE SPEEDWAY AND THERE HOUSE WAS RIGHT OFF THE BACK STRAIGHTAWAY! YOU NAME IT WE DID IT AT THE FAIRGROUNDS OR IN THE FIELDS AND PITS THAT SURROUNDED IT, GREAT TIMES, COOL STORY!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome memories! Thanks for watching!

  • @lyn91153
    @lyn911533 жыл бұрын

    First lived on Magowan Ave right next to the track and watched many races there. My father was with Enterprise Fire Company and always worked all the races. This brings back so many memories of growing up in that area. We moved to Morgan Ave where I lived till I got married but I did still live there till 1998 when I moved to another area in NJ. Thank you for bringing back so many fond memories.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Linda, I'm, so glad I could help bring back some good memories for you. Thanks for watching:)

  • @robcassaday5514
    @robcassaday5514 Жыл бұрын

    I can remember my grandfather and father taking me there as a youngster , wonderful memories for sure

  • @jagzrule1
    @jagzrule12 жыл бұрын

    After they closed Langhorne speedway in Pennsylvania, the season ending Race of Champions modified event was moved to Trenton Speedway in 1972. As I was too young, I didn't attend, but my parents did. My mother returned with a funny story. The night before the race, they were camping in our venerable old VW campmobile and there was a knock at the door. It was Geoff Bodine, an upstate NY modified driver we used to see race at the time at Spencer Speedway outside of Rochester. He wanted to borrow some toilet paper. My parents obliged, and he went on to win the prestigious event the next day!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahahaha that's an excellent story about another racing legend! Those truly were the good old days.

  • @thomassweeney1258
    @thomassweeney1258 Жыл бұрын

    I grew up in the 1940s, about one mile from the fairgrounds. Also, I can remember towards the end of WWII when they trained soldiers there. Plus, the inside of the track was our swimming hole. I was born in 1934 and my memories only covered the dirt track days. One standout was a big barn fire, and us kids were allowed to gape at the dead horses. Before I went in the service, I had Joey Chitwood's autograph, but sadly my grandmother in a fit of cleaning, through it out. Before I close there was a monument going up to the fairground dedicated to a famous trotter, Goldsmith Maid. Thanks for the memories.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your story and memories, Thomas! Also, thank you for your service. It is very much appreciated!

  • @DFSJR1203
    @DFSJR1203 Жыл бұрын

    I saw every USAC Indy car race at Trenton between 1965 to 1978. I ran into Wally who lived in East Brunswick at the time. I lived near his home and use to talk with him about racing. Well at Trenton the first or second year Wally took my Father, Grandfather, and myself to meet A.J. Foyt, Mario, Bobby and Al Unser. Listening to these legends talk about racing made my day considering I was only 6 or 7 when this happened. I believe the pits were only open to people of a certain age or older. Security did not say anything when they saw Wally escorting us in.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Donald, thanks for sharing! My family lived in Jamesburg at the time (I wasn't born yet) and my grandfather was friends with Wally...I believe my father even babysat Wally jr. once or twice. It's amazing how accessible these guys were back then and just regular guys. Much different than the way celebrities and athletes are today. Maybe nobody quite realized what legends they ultimately would become. Thanks for watching!

  • @mofrascella6344
    @mofrascella63443 жыл бұрын

    This made me cry. I spent most of my young life there, lived across the field by Klockner Rd on Christine Avenue. Too many memories to list. Thank you for putting this together and sharing.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Mo, I'm really glad you enjoyed it and happy to bring back some fond memories for you! Thanks for watching!

  • @rickhammond2473

    @rickhammond2473

    2 жыл бұрын

    I lived on Cannon Drive moved out 1970 I was 10.My father only took me a couple of times down one of the dead end roads stood on a crate and watched the race remember debri flying everywhere from the cars blowing by.

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol I remeber the parties at your house. and. your brothers band i think ir was and das staged on the pool deck in the backyard

  • @walterskupski2069
    @walterskupski20693 жыл бұрын

    Absolutely loved this. I am 73 and can remember going to races and state fairs with my father. As I grew up I continued going. Fondly remember the Race of Champions that later moved to Pocono raceway. Still attend grounds of sculpture a couple of times a year.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching! Sounds like it brought back some great memories for you!

  • @healthyone100

    @healthyone100

    Жыл бұрын

    went to the Race of ChampionS for asphalt modidieds great memories!

  • @billritting1657
    @billritting1657 Жыл бұрын

    I remember Area Auto Racing News articles about Trenton. I never had the chance to see a race there. Thanks for this video.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Bill!

  • @martytaylor8742
    @martytaylor87422 жыл бұрын

    When I was a teenager my older cousin (an avid race fan) and I would set-up step ladders with a 2x12 plank in an alley on the backstretch at 6AM on race day. When the race started, we had front row seats literally 4 feet from the track. We saw all the big name Indy drivers twice a year... once in late April and another in September during the state fair. Years later we watched the NASCAR boys come to town. We wore no ear protection and sitting just feet from the track we had ringing in our ears for several days after the race. I have so many great memories of Trenton Speedway and the old Fairgrounds. We saw AJ Foyt, Mario Andretti, Bobby & Al Unser, Johnny Rutherford, Wally Dallenbach, Parnelli Jones and Gordon Johncock race each other wheel-to-wheell. Years later the NASCAR boys of Richard Petty, David Pearson, Wendel Scott, Bobby Issac, Junior Johnson, etc. came to Trenton to race. That was 58 years ago... and I still reside in Hamilton Township. Thank you so much for putting this video together... such great memories!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your experience, Marty. That sounds like some amazing memories and I'm definitely a bit jealous. Glad you are still in the area and happy I could help revive some of the good ol' days for you!

  • @MichaelKatsoff
    @MichaelKatsoff Жыл бұрын

    I LOVED going to Trenton Speedway with my Dad. Boy, do I wish it was still there!

  • @autoracing1com
    @autoracing1com3 жыл бұрын

    Grew up around Trenton Speedway. Was there everyday watching the reconstruction from 1-mile to 1.5-miles in late 1968 to early 1969. Saw my very first race there as a kid and saw Jimmy Clark race there, if I recall in 1965. Became an instant racing fan. Funny story - was standing on a drum outside of Turn 4 in 1977 to take photos when Mario Andretti was there testing. The police came and "yelled at me to get the hell down, you can't stand there." The officer then proceeded to take me in the infield and I spent the day with the team and with Mario. Got some great photos and memories of a lifetime. I was sad when Roger Penske decided to not buy Trenton Speedway, and instead built Nazareth Speedway. Both are gone now.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that is an amazing story. That was clearly a different time than today! Thank you for sharing those awesome memories!

  • @1761Charlie

    @1761Charlie

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Hamid who was in charge when Roger was in the process of buying the fairgrounds screwed him when he sold off the main entrance to raise money to pay the electric bill at the Steel Pier. When Roger found out, he killed the deal and actually had to pay Hamid to get out. The Trenton Speedway was probably the best "superspeedway" ever in that everything from Indy Cars and full-size NASCAR "Cup" cars to Saturday night short-track Modifieds could race there and be competitive.

  • @22maryln
    @22maryln2 жыл бұрын

    I have photos I took during a race in the mid 70’s. Janet Guthrie, Johnny Rutherford, etc. were there.

  • @domgennello7094
    @domgennello70943 жыл бұрын

    I grew up a few blocks away in the 70’s and 80’s. We used to ride dirt bikes and go carts in the “Orange Hole” at the south east corner of the property and of course, snuck on to the track a few times. Actually got to meet Roger Penske when he was walking around the track, looking to buy it. Great memories!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    That sounds like some good times there! I really wonder what could have been had Penske bought it.

  • @donnamatson8021
    @donnamatson80213 жыл бұрын

    Wow, does that bring back memories! Allman Brothers band, to meeting Petty, Foyt, and Ulster. Fairgrounds, speedway to concerts. Sad if you look at Trenton now from when I grew up. Thanks for the memories, and good job Mickey! Donna M.Marciante

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for checking it out and thanks for the kind words!

  • @mariannamey1911
    @mariannamey19112 жыл бұрын

    My Aunt lived on the other side of the track; we’d go to the end of the street and either climb the fence or sit on the roof to watch the race. We also went to the fair all the time and attended some of the races while we were there This video was awesome

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching! I hope it brought back some great memories:)

  • @markt926
    @markt926 Жыл бұрын

    My dad & I spent many Sunday's at the Speedway for the big cars as they were called as boy, Jim Clark was a big event with team mate Dan Gurney bringing the first of the rear engines racers to compete with the current cars of the day,I have so many memories, programs too, I could make a book on all my memories,

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Mark, Sounds like some great times...thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!

  • @cygbo
    @cygbo3 жыл бұрын

    I lived in Hamilton until the late 60s. I have fond memories of getting out of school for a day to “go to the fair”. Never saw a car race, though. And, My mother was a waitress at Cedar Gardens for a short while in the 50s and my family often ate there. I love your videos....brings a little nostalgia to my life.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad you like the videos Cheryl and thanks for sharing!

  • @ScottyLiardi
    @ScottyLiardi2 жыл бұрын

    While doing some work near the lake, I hit pavement about 2 feet down while digging for fence posts. I can only imagine that it was from the old racetrack. I actually kept a piece of it and still have it

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Now that is pretty awesome!

  • @BryanEberle
    @BryanEberle Жыл бұрын

    Good job, A friend of mine Dave G. who ran USAC Midget Sprint and Champ dirt/silver Crown back in the late 60's to middle late 70's ran what we called the up-east tour, Trenton, NJ Syracuse, NY Reading, Pa just to name A few tracks. I remember him telling me about the races on that tour, what stands out the most is him telling me how difficult it was to set up A car to run Trenton. Because of the dogleg on the back stretch, Midget Sprints and Champ dirt cars are not set up to turn right. Probably one of the reasons they quit running USAC there, since most of the Cart boys were rich daddy's boys with deep pockets and the track made them look bad, just like the dirt tracks did, USAC quit running dirt tracks in 70 or 71 so all of the rich daddy's boys could look like they were real open wheel racers, the scansions had to do away with such tracks. That made daddy's rich boy look bad.... And the beat goes on, right up to today, rich daddy's boys.....

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing and for checking this out!

  • @timothyokane9710
    @timothyokane9710 Жыл бұрын

    My oldest brother had bought some tickets to the Marlboro 300, my dad and I went there a couple of times, it's kind of funny you posting this so many years later.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm sure that was a great time! Thanks for checking it out!

  • @pamelawhite5307
    @pamelawhite53073 жыл бұрын

    My dad took me to my first race in 1957..over the years I remember seeing Salt Walther, Bill Vukovich, Andy Granatelli, and others at the track. Lived in the South for 40 years , saw many NASCAR tracks, but Trenton was the first.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, those sound like some excellent memories! Thanks for watching!

  • @magg1091
    @magg10913 жыл бұрын

    I was there for a number of years with my parents on the backstretch. We went there because it was cheaper than the grandstands. Money was tight in my family. Saw many great races, though, both in and out of the grandstands. Great track and wonderful fair. One bad thing I still remember was during one fair, someone was shot in the grandstands during a race by a bullet fired at a concession stand behind the stands. The bullet went between two planks in the backboard of the stand, and into the grandstands. I don't think they were seriously hurt, but they moved the shooting stand for the next day.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that's a crazy story, thanks for sharing! Awesome to hear the memories.

  • @TheMfwhy
    @TheMfwhy2 жыл бұрын

    Great story on the history of Trenton Speedway. As a kid, I went to many races there. I met and have photos with racing greats, Roger Penske, Mario Andretti and Rick Mears.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like some great memories! Thanks for watching!

  • @michellecasella7552
    @michellecasella75523 жыл бұрын

    My dad told me stories of visiting the speedway when he was a young man. I vaguely remember seeing it during its downfall. So sad, would have been awesome to still have this racetrack. I grew up going to East Windsor Speedway with my dad who drove there before I was born and then watched my brother drive there for about 5 years before they closed it down.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing , Michelle! It's sad all the cool tracks are pretty much gone!

  • @HonJazzz
    @HonJazzz2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome documentary! I wish this was still around.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much! I really appreciate it. I wish it was too!

  • @brianhargraves4990
    @brianhargraves49902 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this video. My dad used to manage Trenton fair back in the mid to late 60s. We actually lived directly in front of the fairgrounds in a converted garage to apartment. We had our personal belongings stored in one of historical buildings still standing as shown in video. We would be on the road with Hammond and Morton circus until season was over and school started. If you know anyway I could locate some pictures of the fair itself from mid to late 60's sure would appreciate it

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad you enjoyed it and thank you sharing you experience. I tried to find more picture of the fair but I just couldn't find many, even from the Hamid family themselves. If I come across any I will let you know. Thanks again for watching!

  • @janelle7668
    @janelle76683 жыл бұрын

    I attended auto racing there in the 1970s. And also annually the NJ State Fair until that was relocated in 1981. A lot of history on the tract of land and back in the 1880s it held harness races with trotters not auto races. I am a harness trainer today and work with standardbred horses. 🐴🐴

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like some great memories Janelle! Thanks for sharing!

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    Sound like i should know you

  • @kimpasquito6609
    @kimpasquito66093 жыл бұрын

    We used to park our big truck in the back yard on Junior Ave and watch the races from the scaffold. Drive by that street all the time and wonder whatever happened to the family that lived there and used to watch the races with us. Such great great memories. This was awesome, thank you!!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Kim, I'm so glad to bring back some great memories for you! Sounds like some great times! Thanks for watching.

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    I remember your name from when i was young

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    Your family you're thinking of might be John Parker

  • @Gale_Force_Raceway
    @Gale_Force_Raceway Жыл бұрын

    I realize this is an older video (by YT standards)- but I had no idea Trenton ever had a track. As a Jersey Native (of only 54 yrs), I'm genuinely surprised. I like decorating my scale model track room to reflect NJ based racing memorabilia and photos whenever I can. I knew about Wall Tnshp (still open), Ho-Ho-Kus, and even Morristown, and personally visited Pine Brook Stadium as a little kid. Thank you VERY much for highlighting a track I never even knew about- now I'm on a mission to obtain some cool photos etc. VERY COOL!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    That sounds like an awesome project! Thanks for watching and good luck with your track room!

  • @Gale_Force_Raceway

    @Gale_Force_Raceway

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickeyShuffle Thanks! Since posting I found a few more videos n pics! Thx again!

  • @1761Charlie

    @1761Charlie

    Жыл бұрын

    Over the years, New Jersey has had dozens of tracks: Ovals (dirt and paved), drag strips, and (various types of) road courses. Sadly, it's down to three ovals . . . paved Wall Stadium, formerly paved and now dirt New Egypt, and always dirt but recently reconfigured Bridgeport. There are three remaining drag strips . . . Island, Atco, and Raceway Park but RP suspended drag racing some five years ago but still has drifting and (maybe) motocross. (Note: There are still some indoor midget races during the Winter months in both Atlantic City and Trenton.) But, if you refer to Allan Brown's "The History of American Speedways" . . . you'll see the surprisingly large number of motorsports venues that once existed in the Garden State. When I was younger, there was actually a four-night weekly NASCAR (paved) Modified circuit with New Egypt on Thursday nights, Vineland Fridays, Wall Saturday, and Old Bridge on Sundays. And, the sort-of square dirt track at Flemington was also NASCAR sanctioned for many years. It is truly sad that it has dwindled down to just what's left.

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh yeah did I grew up a half a mile away from the place

  • @tomsolack5411
    @tomsolack54112 жыл бұрын

    This is a great story I still live there today on the straightaway people watching the race on the roofs riding are bicycles we couldn’t talk it was super loud As the cars would go bye. we also had go carts motorcycles we were ride in the orange hole as it was called skateboard around the turns catch bass in those lakes

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sounds like some awesome memories! Thanks for checking out the video!

  • @billfeasel8209

    @billfeasel8209

    Жыл бұрын

    They were the good old day .... was great growing up in the hood there & sneaking into the races & the fair as kids

  • @Notonmywatch1340

    @Notonmywatch1340

    11 ай бұрын

    I use to ride my dirt bike from Connecticut Ave. cut through the race track to hang out in the ole neighborhood……good times!!!! Loved Dirt biking, fishing and hanging out by track. Skipping school hanging by the lakes. Good times!!!

  • @kevinhaney1817
    @kevinhaney1817 Жыл бұрын

    Grew up about a mile from the track and would climb trees at old turn 3 the turn 4 when the dogleg was added. Wasn’t a big Fair fan as it was junky and could get rough for a kid. Loved the racing sounds and smells. Knowing it was the preview for Indy was always a point of pride. Sigh. Time marches on.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing your memories, Kevin. It sounds like an awesome time to be young. It's a shame it's existence is basically wiped from the ground.

  • @Notonmywatch1340
    @Notonmywatch134011 ай бұрын

    Some big names raced that track. I could hear the cars whipping around the track and the announcer from my house. Also some big name bands played the fair. Alman brothers, Aerosmith…..and the Joe perry project to name a few

  • @1204gameday
    @1204gameday3 жыл бұрын

    My dad used to take me to those races. We lived a few miles away at the time. Thanks for sharing this bit of history. I did not know that the track had hosted such legends at one time.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!

  • @nicklasmillner101
    @nicklasmillner1012 жыл бұрын

    Aerosmith 74 “ This is now a free event “ announced over raceway PA. Smart call to prevent any trouble like recently in Houston. It was the biggest event I ever attended in my hometown. Loud too!!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, that had to be awesome!

  • @theophilhist6455
    @theophilhist6455 Жыл бұрын

    Grew up about 2 miles from the track off Greenwood Ave. Remember many a summer time tire testings, 3 Champ car races a year, the crazy 300 mile Midget race...wow...and the Northern 300....(even recall the 500 Tom Pistone won 1958?) all the North vs, South runs called the Race of Champions modified-Sportsmen race...the Triple Header in Sept (I was in tree on the backstretch the year Don Gillette was killed)...used to sneak into the bleachers...easier to do during the State Fair time....the place was amazing...and just down the road Langhorne. Only time I got on the old mile mile was with a buddy and our bicycles. It was truly a great area for auto racing back in the day.... I even ran a few low end events at Wall Stadium and New Egypt when costs were reasonable and the novice classes were pure fun. I have lots of old race programs i looked over after watching your video...such memories..Thanks Mickey

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Theo, Thanks for sharing and for watching. I'm glad to help bring up some great memories!

  • @wrex50th41
    @wrex50th413 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this awesome video! I grew up behind the dog leg on Potter Avenue and saw many races from both the grandstands and the neighborhood and rooftops, it's just what you did back then. I remember being heartbroken when it got torn down. I used to have a small piece of the track, but I think it's gone and lost over the years of moving around. My grandparents owned Devlin Photo and had exclusive access to the track and fairgrounds. We even drove our delivery cars on the track before an event! I remember having Danny Ongias' racecar at the Johnston Avenue store and getting my picture taken in it. I must have been somewhere between 4 and 8 years old. We used to have stacks of the old programs that I loved to read and look at, but again, I fear that they are lost over time. I used to ride my bike daily in what we dubbed as the 'Orange Hole' behind turn 3 because of the color of the dirt back there. Used to swim and fish in the lakes also, most people don't know that it used to be 2 lakes. This video brought tears to my eyes. Thank you so much for all of your hard work making the video.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching and sharing all those fantastic memories! The whole reason I do this is to bring these memories back for people so it makes me really happy that it sounds like I did my job on this one, at least for you.

  • @clarkmessec7580
    @clarkmessec75802 ай бұрын

    Man you really tape into some memories. Great job!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Ай бұрын

    I appreciate that! Thanks for watching!

  • @oldsucker100
    @oldsucker1003 жыл бұрын

    saw the Allman Brothers there. Lots of good memories of the races and the fair

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    That must have been awesome!

  • @dwill123

    @dwill123

    2 ай бұрын

    I was at that show, 1973.

  • @johnthomas9830
    @johnthomas9830 Жыл бұрын

    I remember fondly going to watch Indy car & modified sportsman racing from 1962 thru the mid seventies. Another treasure lost to greed.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    So true, John! So many treasures lost for commercial development and other things with much less magic.

  • @barryford2641
    @barryford26413 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video! My first job was working at the track selling programs for lenny sammons of area auto racing news.. can still hear.. "don't know who's who without your program" lol. And the circus every year with my long gone grandmother. Thanks again for the memories

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha, I can imagine! Thanks for sharing the memories, Barry!

  • @brianporter4352
    @brianporter43522 жыл бұрын

    When I was little we lived in Hamilton and we would go to the Fairgrounds to see the Shrine Circus. My grandmother would take my sister and I. I remember the track but never saw a race there. I remember going to the Sate Fair at the Fairgrounds too. Great memories. Thanks

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I could jog a few of those great nostalgic moments!

  • @dirtylemon3379
    @dirtylemon3379 Жыл бұрын

    I used to go to concerts there in the early to mid 70s. The Band, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    That's a great lineup of concerts!

  • @HODIUSDUDE
    @HODIUSDUDE2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Looks to me like Hamilton Lakes Dr. is laid out over the old back-stretch, dog leg and all. Went to Trenton speedway with my dad each year from 75 to the Spring of 1980.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @HODIUSDUDE

    @HODIUSDUDE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickeyShuffle You're welcome. Thanks for sharing those great images.

  • @jameslong5337
    @jameslong53372 жыл бұрын

    very cool racing history

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @wolfpacva
    @wolfpacva2 жыл бұрын

    That was an awesome track. I went to many races there over the years. It sure was no cookie cutter track like most of todays speedways are.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    That's for sure!

  • @josephfahner6778
    @josephfahner6778 Жыл бұрын

    You forgot to mention Joey Chitwood that used to do stunt driving on the track. I also went there for the State Fair up until 1966, the following year I had heard that they had problems with the inner city kids that would roam around in gangs causing trouble. I can only relate this as hearsay, as I stopped going based on these stories, but apparently it was the beginning of the end for the State Fair that used to be held there, even though racing survived there for many more years.

  • @jimhaines8370
    @jimhaines8370 Жыл бұрын

    As a teenager we went there three time for the Late Model Sportsman races they would have on a Saturday during the Race Of Champions modified event, the main modified race was on a Sunday so they had last chance races on Saturday for the mods and qualifying and the main Late Model race Saturday and they put on a great show every time there.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like some good times, Jim! Thanks for watching

  • @CarsSimplified
    @CarsSimplified Жыл бұрын

    I don't have any experience there, but my father might have had something to share. Great video!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @f1sherman52
    @f1sherman522 жыл бұрын

    RIP a great looking track

  • @stephensaltau6481
    @stephensaltau64812 ай бұрын

    I remember the State Fair being in Flemington at that time

  • @jimheckert5383
    @jimheckert5383 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks 🇺🇸🍀🇺🇸

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @markt926
    @markt9262 жыл бұрын

    My dad & I spent many a Sunday at the Trenton speedway, being from New Brunswick NJ it was a 40minute drive from home, I , from the 50s to the last event there, was a special track, where all the greats in all types of racing , I was lucky to witness growing up in racing, I have many programs, some autographs in them, collectors want them, but one not sure if I should let go If we only had another ROGER PENSKE!it could have grown into an INDY StYLE layout, bringing in those much needed Tourist dollars for NJ.+ much loved racing in THE GARDEN STATE.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching, Mark! I'm glad it brought back some fond memories. Yes, it really would have been great if they could have figured out a way to keep the track alive!

  • @pauldenichols1724
    @pauldenichols1724 Жыл бұрын

    I remember twin 100 mile races promoted by Sam Nunis.

  • @banditsmith7888
    @banditsmith78883 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for what I used to hear about as a kid.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad you got to see more of it! I feel the same way, I only heard stories so it was nice to gather some visuals for it.

  • @AEMoreira81
    @AEMoreira81 Жыл бұрын

    What is now the Cup Series used to have Trenton as part of its schedule. Its race was moved to Pocono starting in 1973.

  • @bradmeirs8138
    @bradmeirs81382 жыл бұрын

    My dad towed Mario Andretti off the track after a crash before I was born, as a helper. He was a teacher in Trenton for 33 years.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! It was a whole different time. Thanks for watching, Brad!

  • @Nadjasboy
    @Nadjasboy2 жыл бұрын

    Went there for the modifieds at least a half dozen times, sure do miss those other tracks too like Langhorne, Flemington, and Reading Fairgrounds.

  • @topofthecircle

    @topofthecircle

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah. They're all gone now .... about the closest motor racing track to the capital region is Wall Stadium.

  • @Barefoottaz1
    @Barefoottaz12 жыл бұрын

    Great memories . thanks for posting.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for watching! Glad I could bring some good ones back for you!

  • @howellsretailexplorationra8774
    @howellsretailexplorationra8774 Жыл бұрын

    I actually have an old Trenton Speedway pit pass from 1971 for the old Marlboro Championship Trial aka The Marlboro 300

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! Glad it survived the years!

  • @zachisfunny
    @zachisfunny2 жыл бұрын

    I live less then 10 mins from there it was way before my time but I heard great stories about the place . Great video !!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching! Before my time too but fun to dig up these memories for others.

  • @dantop1280
    @dantop12803 жыл бұрын

    Outstanding video!!! Thanks to all !!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for checking it out and the kind words!

  • @genecottrell
    @genecottrell3 жыл бұрын

    My biggest memory of the fair was about 1960. Chevrolet had a small building with a bowl shaped movie screen where they showed an I-Max type movie, which took the viewer on a ride in a new Corvette. I remember my stomach dropping as were rode up-and-down the small hills and turns in the country road of some farm country. I was about 20 years old, and had never seen anything like that before. Thanks for the memories of the Fair Grounds - I never attended a race there.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing, Gene! Sounds pretty awesome!

  • @donnamatson8021

    @donnamatson8021

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was a lot of farmland back in Hamilton then, now nothing but the concrete jungle.

  • @1761Charlie
    @1761Charlie3 жыл бұрын

    In 1980, I co-anchored (on ESPN) the last auto race ever held there. I don't know if the video still exists but it must be somewhere.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome! I'd love to see that video. I wonder if it's in the ESPN vault somewhere.

  • @1761Charlie

    @1761Charlie

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickeyShuffle I have no idea but you could always check with them in Bristol, Connecticut. If you can get it, please let me know at cr@exit109.com. BTW, in your opening shot, that row of houses on the right along a curved street . . . that _was_ the dogleg of the track. I drove out there once before they had torn down the big old covered grandstands and could tell by eyeballing it. Also, that lake was in the infield and was created when they needed dirt to build the turns 3 and 4 banking when they enlarged the track to a mile-and-a-half. There is an aerial photo service online that can take you back through the years and you can verify that the street with the houses was exactly where that part of the track was.

  • @bill4572
    @bill4572 Жыл бұрын

    Remember it good growing up near there and watching the time trials on Saturday the bands could hear them from my front yard lot of people would watch the races on the roof of their house every year we would get out of school early there would give us a ticket to the fare let's bring that good stuff back 😀

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the memories, Bill! It must have been an awesome time and place to grow up!

  • @MrKfojgs21
    @MrKfojgs212 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing this! We live on the lake and although the Fairgrounds and Speedway were before my time, this was a really cool history lesson!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @carynsolly

    @carynsolly

    Жыл бұрын

    I live here now too, and this is the best history of the site I’ve come across. My movers told me Aerosmith played here, I loved that. Thanks!

  • @michaelgulyas5575
    @michaelgulyas55753 жыл бұрын

    My dad worked there as a safety crew member. I remember as a young kid there was a replay of a race on TV. At the same time my dad was on the TV, he walked into house from work. I was really a confused kid at that !!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha, that's awesome!

  • @johnshorey5762
    @johnshorey57623 жыл бұрын

    I remember going to the circus there. At the time, I didn't even understand that it was a race track (we used to call it the fairgrounds) until I saw a stock car running around the track. I also remember going to the barn with my grandfather for an auction.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Really sounds like it was a great place at the time!

  • @billkeith1612
    @billkeith16123 жыл бұрын

    Took over a failing GMC Dealership located at the corner of the fairgrounds/Speedway property in 1979. Initially named the Dealership "Speedway GMC". After doing much legal work and signage, etc. found out the speedway was closing and was afraid of spending the future explaining where the name came from with no remaiing connection. Renamed the fledging Dealership and never looked back.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha...that's a great story, thanks for sharing! I'm sure you would have spent hours and hours explaining!

  • @janemcnellis981
    @janemcnellis9813 жыл бұрын

    Locate filming of the history of Trenton Speedway when Evel Knievel arrived.

  • @clarkmessec7580
    @clarkmessec75802 ай бұрын

    You asked for it so here I go. My great uncle ,George Swain, was superintendent of the fairgroungs. He and my Aunt Mable lived on Nottingham Way. Naomi Rice , the mother of my classmate Frank was Hamid's secretary. She got me my first job working the consetions in the grand stands. That was the end of the 50's till 1965. Great money for a kid. When I hook up with the french fry guy I was in the chips. Let's not forget the Shrine Circus, and along with the Trenton 200 were also money makers. My uncle was a township cop ( Raymond Sellnow), on Fair Day school would let out for a half day. My cousin Richard and I would do the fair in style. First stop would be the "Little Police Station." My uncle always got the fair duty. So we would pickup an unlimited cash of tickets.Rides, sideshows, and any thing you needed a ticket was ours. I guess the last fair I attended was the fall of 1966. There was a bad fight where a guy got slashed pretty badly. I never went again. Thanks for this great video,

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching and sharing those great memories! Really sounds like some great times, minus the slashing!

  • @williamcook4888
    @williamcook48882 жыл бұрын

    Watched the races from the top of the fence on the backstretch.

  • @waynelutwiniak797
    @waynelutwiniak797 Жыл бұрын

    So cool.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Wayne!

  • @michaelflash6303
    @michaelflash63032 жыл бұрын

    saw my first race here ,1970

  • @rogerleip6756
    @rogerleip67563 жыл бұрын

    Skate boarded on the high curve back in the mid to late 70's it was a 15 minute walk from home

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's awesome!

  • @wstepek
    @wstepek Жыл бұрын

    My wife and I moved to this area in 1969 and we enjoyed a number of races here including one motorcycle race. This place, and the late lamented Langhorne Speedway, are treasured memories for us. RIP Trenton Fairgrounds.

  • @notTalladegasuperspeedway

    @notTalladegasuperspeedway

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm 15 and love learning about old tracks Nascar and Usac use to race on. Many people who I've talked to that have gone here said it was a fast track for its area and were sad when they heard it was closing. Would have loved to see a race held here.

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    The connections I was tied to it this place break my heart today and that was freaking 50 years ago

  • @patrickjaquinto9527
    @patrickjaquinto95273 жыл бұрын

    Went there many times as a kid. snuck under the fence on first turn many times.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    That must have been great!

  • @patrickjaquinto9527

    @patrickjaquinto9527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickeyShuffle Great Video - Thanks For Creating and Sharing !

  • @extramile150
    @extramile150 Жыл бұрын

    excellent

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Many many thanks

  • @Dogman36
    @Dogman363 жыл бұрын

    wow finally an in depth video on this amazing track!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for watching! I appreciate it!

  • @bigdee8497
    @bigdee84973 жыл бұрын

    Mickey brings the good stuff ... always

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Dee!

  • @RodeoRides
    @RodeoRides3 жыл бұрын

    Well done great history from jersey when it was great.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much!

  • @MegaBait1616

    @MegaBait1616

    3 жыл бұрын

    Exactly when NJ "Was Great" now too much Taxes, 9 million people, anti American families, anti 2nd. Amt., car insurance, traffic always, paying for the beaches n Tolls.................. KAG.

  • @kmcwhq
    @kmcwhq3 жыл бұрын

    Thank You for doing this video. I was there one time in 1975 for the Modified race of champions. Awesome track. Sad it's gone.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad it brought back some memories!

  • @kkacperowski
    @kkacperowski3 жыл бұрын

    Well done video! This was before my time, but i always knew it was there. Glad to finally get some info on what it was all about. Thanks!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad you enjoyed it! That's mainly the reason I do this stuff.

  • @mikerudnick1562
    @mikerudnick15623 жыл бұрын

    Lived in Trenton loved going to the speedway. I met my wife there. 40 years ago miss the track. Still have the wife

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow, Mike! That's an awesome story about meeting your wife there. Glad it brought back some great memories!

  • @theophilhist6455

    @theophilhist6455

    3 жыл бұрын

    same story for me.... married now 49 years.... remember going to the infield...no security...tons of autographs

  • @jamesdoan3586
    @jamesdoan35863 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video. Looking forward to watching more.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much, Jim!

  • @JohnBenussiBass
    @JohnBenussiBass3 жыл бұрын

    Never even heard of it. Till now. Thanks for the info and very awesome video. Ttys God bless

  • @JohnBenussiBass

    @JohnBenussiBass

    3 жыл бұрын

    ( #like130)

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much for the positive feedback and checking it out!

  • @DvdAvins
    @DvdAvins3 жыл бұрын

    The water now on the property (retaining pond?) has a shape suspiciously like the old infield.

  • @JasonTrew2018
    @JasonTrew20182 жыл бұрын

    You should go to Riverside in California; the track has been wiped off the face of the earth with houses and a shopping mall (both RIR and Trenton were owned at one time by American Raceways Inc.)

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I would love to!

  • @MrPappysCobra
    @MrPappysCobra2 жыл бұрын

    Great video! To bad NJ didn't keep the speedway!!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know it really sucks to be honest! Thanks for watching...I appreciate it!

  • @richcasteline3464
    @richcasteline34643 жыл бұрын

    I grew up about a mile down Klockner road from the speedway. I would ride my bike to the track during practices and could meet and talk to all of my driver heros. Sad to see the track gone.

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's an awesome story, Rich! Those were the days!

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    Usted to live in Mercerville

  • @MrCaseymcmullen
    @MrCaseymcmullen3 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Thank You!

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks so much, Casey! I appreciate it.

  • @andrewdekovitch7144
    @andrewdekovitch7144 Жыл бұрын

    I can remember swimming in them Lakes

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    Жыл бұрын

    Did you run into any animal bones? I heard rumors of there being circus animal bone sin there ha!

  • @andrewdekovitch7144

    @andrewdekovitch7144

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TheMickeyShuffle I'm sure there are or were because there used to be horse races are back in the day also

  • @FabulousKilljoy917
    @FabulousKilljoy9173 жыл бұрын

    “Tren’un” yea😎

  • @donnamatson8021

    @donnamatson8021

    3 жыл бұрын

    LOL, that' the enunciation for people who didn't know how to pronounce Trenton.

  • @annetterogers5769
    @annetterogers57693 жыл бұрын

    Love your videos

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Annette! I appreciate it.

  • @Trenton857
    @Trenton8572 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @michellecoleman2020
    @michellecoleman20203 жыл бұрын

    my sister an I worked at the NJ fair in Hamilton haaa an we watched those races many times from the roof tops of neighbors haaaa

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds really awesome! Thanks for watching!

  • @frankdeste7941
    @frankdeste79412 жыл бұрын

    NJ should have another indy style track..........in South Jersey....

  • @TheMickeyShuffle

    @TheMickeyShuffle

    2 жыл бұрын

    That would be so awesome! Instead we just get more and more strip malls.