The Story of Imagine Software: The Rock 'n' Roll Games Company - Kim Justice

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It's another big Spectrum software documentary! This time, it's a company that burnt very bright for a very short period - Imagine. After just one year where they looked like the biggest company of them all and released games like Arcadia and Ah Diddums, they tore themselves apart with bad management and...well, not being good with money. And most of it was caught on camera...we alluded to their story back in the Ocean video, but they certainly deserve a full one all of their own. Enjoy!
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  • @Larry
    @Larry7 жыл бұрын

    Psygnosis also operated under the name Psyclapse for a few months before rebranding to Psygnosis!

  • @Holammer

    @Holammer

    7 жыл бұрын

    Good thing they changed it as it sounds like a horrible medical condition. Psygnosis on the other hand sounds like something you'd find in an ancient Greek ante-nicene codex.

  • @hingeslevers

    @hingeslevers

    7 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it was a rebrand, rather a separate brand for a couple of more arcady titles. I could be wrong.

  • @whatamalike

    @whatamalike

    7 жыл бұрын

    Yeah...sounds like prolapse!

  • @chip5541

    @chip5541

    7 жыл бұрын

    and Roger Dean was involved with them as well.

  • @antster1983

    @antster1983

    7 жыл бұрын

    Wasn't Psyclapse a sub-label of Psygnosis?

  • @slopesgameroom
    @slopesgameroom7 жыл бұрын

    Videos like this are the reason I watch KZread! fantastic Video mate

  • @jamesnewman4351
    @jamesnewman43516 жыл бұрын

    I remember playing Arcadia on my vic in 1982 and i must say it was far more amazing what a vic could do with 3.583 byte than what a Spectrum 16 could do!!

  • @gunhed76
    @gunhed767 жыл бұрын

    As a yank , UK gaming companies CEOs lived like Miami drug dealers in my eyes lol

  • @AudieHolland

    @AudieHolland

    3 жыл бұрын

    At least Miami drug dealers would have made sure their overhead was in check and that most of their staff weren't idling around doing nothing. I'm also sure they would have one or two accountants at least.

  • @gunhed76

    @gunhed76

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@AudieHolland very true

  • @stanzalenski6607

    @stanzalenski6607

    9 ай бұрын

    Atari even more so

  • @Ynffy
    @Ynffy4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for making these documentaries about the UK developers who made all those games I played as a child and teen!

  • @JesterEric
    @JesterEric7 жыл бұрын

    The deal with Marshall Cavendish was I think to make full price quality games to be given away with a magazine. The tight timescales for these games was one of the reasons they had so many staff

  • @chrishopkins209

    @chrishopkins209

    5 жыл бұрын

    Christopher Rutherford they were going to write the type in games for the Input part work. I have a set of these on my shelf right now

  • @DarthPerkins
    @DarthPerkins6 жыл бұрын

    I'm not usually interested in computer gaming, more consoles, which is ironic as I just remember black and white TV so would have been old enough to be at the inception of PC gaming, but these documentaries are fascinating. Well done, Kim. This is the kind of stuff BBC3 should have been showing.

  • @KaijuBoy31
    @KaijuBoy317 жыл бұрын

    Been binging your documentaries yesterday and now I finally have another to watch! I feel like I'm a bloody thief because these are all free and better than 75% of the content on the site.

  • @MrKlawUK
    @MrKlawUK5 жыл бұрын

    Watched this and the bbc doc and realised although I remember the Imagine name fondly, I only really remember their Ocean games - so not their actual output

  • @markwhitfield6781
    @markwhitfield67817 жыл бұрын

    So many memories from early speccy games with expert commentary - thanks a million Kimble.

  • @EMarkMoore
    @EMarkMoore7 жыл бұрын

    I don't think I realised Alchemist came out quite so early, as my brother and I got it as part of the Beau Jolie compilation pack some time later. Good stuff so far, Kim; I'll keep watching!

  • @Jayfive276
    @Jayfive2767 жыл бұрын

    Kimski I can give no higher praise than to say that these are the kinds of things Charlie Brooker probably wished he could do if Gameswipe had got off the ground...

  • @electronash

    @electronash

    5 жыл бұрын

    And now it has kind of gone full circle, with Mr Brooker's great work on the Bandersnatch "movie". ;) I agree though - Kim should get far more recognition, not just in gaming land, but in journalism land.

  • @purebaldness
    @purebaldness7 жыл бұрын

    I've been subscribed to your channel for only a week and I've watched almost all of your videos. Your content is incredible. Each video I've seen of yours is littered with so many positive comments. I and it would seem many others really appreciate what you do. It's a shame that your work has somewhat of a niche audience because I feel as though you deserve a lot more recognition. Thanks :-)

  • @purebaldness

    @purebaldness

    7 жыл бұрын

    ***** the gaming tv, GTA, Tomb Raider, SNES vs Mega Drive, Peter Molyneux and microcomputer videos have been amazing and very informative. I've learned so much. I've also enjoyed some of the game review videos too

  • @robintst
    @robintst7 жыл бұрын

    Great video and very informative. I've watched all of your videos on the British computer scene from this era and it's so interesting to see that the UK was experiencing a gaming boom while we in the US were having a market crash. Keep up the good work, Kim, I look forward to your eventual Psygnosis video. :)

  • @handsomebrick
    @handsomebrick7 жыл бұрын

    Oh my God, the story of Ion Storm played out in almost identical fashion 15 years earlier in England. If only a single Brit developer had been on their team, they could have avoided it.

  • @handsomebrick

    @handsomebrick

    7 жыл бұрын

    And it seems there actually was a Brit at Ion Storm, James Poole, who predictably saw the blood in the water early on and fought it tooth and nail, and when this proved impossible he quickly jumped ship.

  • @jamdonut
    @jamdonut7 жыл бұрын

    Kim, how well put together and narrated. Thank you.

  • @teknizian
    @teknizian7 жыл бұрын

    Your documentaries are legendary. Big fan here, keep it up!

  • @KageMaxwell
    @KageMaxwell7 жыл бұрын

    Awesome videos like this is the reason I keep coming back for more. Keep up the good work!

  • @Bangkokian1967
    @Bangkokian19677 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent, well researched documentary. I really enjoy watching your behind the scenes documentaries

  • @radarlockeify
    @radarlockeify7 жыл бұрын

    Great work Kim! This took me back to my youth! That woolworths Xmas ad was like a precursor to operation yew tree! Anyway, a reminder of the early speccy days and my 3rd gen gaming from binatone tennis games to 2600 then to the speccy. Imagine was a company I liked but give a load of cash to anyone and they'll piss it all away. More docs please!

  • @3bigbaws
    @3bigbaws7 жыл бұрын

    Just found this channel recently. Loving your vids. Watched a load over the weekend.

  • @chrishalsall188
    @chrishalsall1887 жыл бұрын

    Nice work as always, love your documentary videos!

  • @eLJaybud
    @eLJaybud7 жыл бұрын

    The sensible thing to do is make sure the contract has clauses meaning they would be penalised for pulling out of the contract making you money as well as keeping the development money.

  • @DarrenAudioguy
    @DarrenAudioguy5 жыл бұрын

    What a trip. Thanks for making this!

  • @mlucifersam
    @mlucifersam7 жыл бұрын

    Just so you know, that picture you keep showing of 'Bruce Everiss' is actually Steve Blower working on an advert for Ocean

  • @BobMarley-yq3wi

    @BobMarley-yq3wi

    6 жыл бұрын

    Mark R. Jones I can confirm this is correct, it’s my father’s picture - not Bruce.

  • @silvergiq5
    @silvergiq57 жыл бұрын

    Awesome documentary as always... Love the soundtrack u chose too. 😊

  • @buddah1978egypt
    @buddah1978egypt7 жыл бұрын

    awesome video as ever.. have introduced your stuff to a few people who love your stuff too. I cant wait for the Psygnosis one!! Been dying for it..

  • @terrythe2dmaniac71
    @terrythe2dmaniac717 жыл бұрын

    regretibly although I was old as sin back then I only knew them in late 1987 when they were just a simple pathetic front to the big Juggernaut Ocean Software, still it was usual a fun and thoroughly entertaining video my dear Kim, keep up the good work O queen of retrogaming documentries.

  • @EvanCWaters
    @EvanCWaters5 жыл бұрын

    One thing that interests me about this story is how odd it is that the company quickly went all-in on Bandersnatch and Psyclapse. Their other output (well, I mean, their actual output) doesn't come off as hugely ambitious or pushing the limits of what the micros could do, so how did they get hung up on this idea of megagames that would require new hardware and all the company's resources? It'd be interesting to know more about how the ideas for those games came about, why they decided they needed to do something this big, etc.

  • @Aux337
    @Aux3377 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid Kim, I really enjoy your documentaries.

  • @RichardTroupe
    @RichardTroupe7 жыл бұрын

    Another excellent video Kim. Well done!

  • @TheMrCrown
    @TheMrCrown7 жыл бұрын

    YEESSS! You're still on fire!!!!! Thx for creating all the masterpieces of videogaming history!

  • @CaralisTrevorum
    @CaralisTrevorum6 жыл бұрын

    Loving the Luke Atmey theme at 4:36.

  • @Rilyn666
    @Rilyn6667 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely adore these videos, very informative. Its also nice to learn about game creators from my home city that i didn't know existed :)

  • @JohnnyOrgan
    @JohnnyOrgan7 жыл бұрын

    Another fantastic vid, Kim. x

  • @doctorcrankyflaps1724
    @doctorcrankyflaps17247 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the upload Kim.

  • @Phoenix2312
    @Phoenix23127 жыл бұрын

    Well Done +Kim Justice Another fantastic Video! :) I am really enjoying these... You will run out of Software Houses soon!

  • @GutznMetal
    @GutznMetal7 жыл бұрын

    Will you be doing any follow-up video(s) about Psygnosis' roots to their eventual demise in 2012 Kim? Can't get enough of these.

  • @VGMFan20XX
    @VGMFan20XX7 жыл бұрын

    I can thumbs up before I even start the video XD. Well done as always!

  • @ianmansfield68
    @ianmansfield68 Жыл бұрын

    Great video - and I remember "Commercial Breaks" very well! Funnily enough, I only remember Arcadia (and Schizoids) with any great nostalgia - the other stuff, so so. I remember reading a review of a later Imagine game (can't remember which) which said that the company reminded the reviewer of certain bands that turned out dross (after their initial hits) and expected the fans to buy it. Not a great business model, as it turned out.

  • @jackjude
    @jackjude2 жыл бұрын

    I remember the logo and the company's adverts from the magazines. Mainly coin-op conversions (Mikey?) and similarly designed to Ocean's; this probably denotes they had already gone-under, before I had got into the speccy mags. Their own games looked like weak homebrew, what _were_ they thinking with Bandersnatch and the bizarre hardware add on? They didn't get past the _first level_ of "Fake it, till you make it".

  • @99nerka
    @99nerka4 жыл бұрын

    I loved Jumping Jack, one of few games i still remember from my ZX Spectrum days.

  • @antster1983
    @antster19832 жыл бұрын

    #RIP Dave Lawson & Ian Hetherington

  • @boulderdashc6425
    @boulderdashc64257 жыл бұрын

    Excellent well done kim.

  • @NickEnchev
    @NickEnchev5 жыл бұрын

    I want to download all of your videos and keep them on bluerays for safe keeping! You really should consider creating a documentary series blue ray pack or something though. This stuff is too good for KZread.

  • @garfunkle187
    @garfunkle1877 жыл бұрын

    Really good video. As one of those lonely cpc464 owners I wasn't familiar with these guys or their games but you did a great job of making it accessible and interesting regardless. Having grown up in Sheffield I'm hoping (and/or suggesting) you do one of these for Gremlin Graphics. Retro Asylum have a great episode on them. Thanks for the video. Cheers

  • @thema1998
    @thema19983 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know much about Imagine Software until now. This was interesting! 🤓

  • @RapideWombaticus
    @RapideWombaticus3 жыл бұрын

    To be honest I think the games made by these guys were lack lustre ... although they obviously made money. However, your review is very well done. Good stuff Kim

  • @edbadyt
    @edbadyt7 жыл бұрын

    I think you should do a video on Codemasters ot the Oliver Twins. Or both as the latter started out with the former.

  • @sperrin
    @sperrin7 жыл бұрын

    I'm just enjoying the 80s footage of the Bullring from when it had character, before it was torn down and replaced with a bland, same as every other, standard shopping mall.

  • @tuffasgong
    @tuffasgong7 жыл бұрын

    Great video once again Kim. Just a visual nitpick of your opening card: The imagine symbol is so mute in color compared to the text and your name so large at first I thought it was The story of Kim Justice... Great video once again.

  • @imaenglishman5471
    @imaenglishman54716 жыл бұрын

    I remember as a kid making a Spectrum fanzine over the summer holidays & beyond. I tracked down Denton Designs programmers by looking through older Crash magazines for 'Imagine' phone numbers & doing interviews over the phone, 12 year old & making these links & getting scoops :-). Making money selling the fanzines at school and blagging games & posters (to use as prizes in the fanzine) from firms like Ocean, US Gold, Hewson, pretty much all of them to be honest, it seemed like second nature. WTF happened to that entreprenourlyness :-(

  • @arnaujess
    @arnaujess7 жыл бұрын

    I like JOFFA playing PUD PUD. Arcadia it´s the first game and one of the most important shoot-em-up for Speccy. Imagine always be a great of 8 bits. Lovely. Well done! Indeed. Namaste.

  • @hexusG4Z
    @hexusG4Z7 жыл бұрын

    Love your vids Kim

  • @kobold1538
    @kobold15382 жыл бұрын

    Lol the fox from Antichrist was a nice touch, favorite scene ever.

  • @99nerka
    @99nerka7 жыл бұрын

    Man... i loved jumping jack when i was a kid.

  • @darran311
    @darran3117 жыл бұрын

    brilliant work as always cant sit through videos this long from many people so you're a rare breed my friend

  • @mucy2807
    @mucy28072 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos - reminds me of my speccy back in ‘82 ish. Wondering what the symbol in your name (in the starting credits) pertains to though?

  • @ScouseTimes
    @ScouseTimes5 жыл бұрын

    I remember the Psygnosis in wavertree Liverpool..then Sony Took over..in the 90's

  • @tahustvedt
    @tahustvedt3 жыл бұрын

    Your videos are really good!

  • @stephenthornber1961
    @stephenthornber19617 жыл бұрын

    I've put dozens of hours into Jumping Jack, never known it crash once. also, best Imagine game imo is Stonkers.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge22807 жыл бұрын

    Arcadia was my first video game ever on the VIC 20. £40 for a game in 1983 destined for 84/85 ROFL ! BlunderSnatch more like. It would be nice Kim if you could do a piece on (Manchester based ?) Denton Designs and their connection to Beyond Software who also did The Lords of Midnight franchise by Mike Singleton (RIP), one of the most important game designers that ever lived.

  • @williammcguire130
    @williammcguire1307 жыл бұрын

    Psygnosis always makes me think of AGONY their incredibly good looking Amiga shooter. Did they also do Apidya?

  • @angelriverasantana7755

    @angelriverasantana7755

    4 жыл бұрын

    Apidya was actually made by Rainbow Arts

  • @thefurthestmanfromhome1148
    @thefurthestmanfromhome11484 жыл бұрын

    Imagine supposedly knew the Atari 8 bit hardware couldn't replicate Green Beret well due to the PMG/sprite limitations, so gave the conversion to an external team, but they themselves really screwed up Atari 8 bit Arkanoid, due to broken ball movement and poor colour choices for backgrounds.

  • @MrDflego
    @MrDflego7 жыл бұрын

    The guy who said piracy killed the business I reckon is right. I had a c64 and an Amiga with thousands of games and they were all pirated. I never paid full price for any and it was a huge scene at the time.

  • @handsomebrick

    @handsomebrick

    6 жыл бұрын

    But would you have actually paid for them if you couldn't pirate them? Are you a lost customer?

  • @wisteela
    @wisteela3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @sperrin
    @sperrin7 жыл бұрын

    If you haven't done one yet, how about a look at The Bitmap Brothers? Loved their games and their unique art style, they also had some amazing intros with top notch music.

  • @meetoo594

    @meetoo594

    6 жыл бұрын

    Speedball, chaos engine, xenon 1/2, gods, cadaver and a few more. speedball 2 is the only one i would play now, the others haven't aged that well.

  • @whatamalike

    @whatamalike

    6 жыл бұрын

    Speedball 2 and The chaos engine are their 2 masterpieces. Everything else they've done is either just not that good or hasn't aged well (Xenon 2 especially)

  • @meetoo594

    @meetoo594

    6 жыл бұрын

    Never liked the chaos engine, it got tedious pretty quickly. yeah, xenon 2 is not that great, but again it was only average to begin with, the soundtrack was the best bit tbh. I always liked mastertronics sidewinder as a shmup on the amiga, great gfx and ace sampled sound.

  • @youaintseenmeok
    @youaintseenmeok7 жыл бұрын

    Nice work kim

  • @DuckAlertBeats
    @DuckAlertBeats7 жыл бұрын

    Aww completely forgot about Alchemist! Arcadia too. Brilliant games for the time. But! Jumping Jack..rubbish? It's genius! A new hole appears every time you jump. It was one of my fav spectrum games tbh..Just picked up the android version for one pound! They haven't got the proper squelch sound unfortunately but it's pretty faithful. I loved it anyway lol

  • @Illuminati2347
    @Illuminati23477 жыл бұрын

    Good use of the Million Dollar Man theme. :)

  • @ByrneMJames
    @ByrneMJames7 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff Kim. How do you find out so much? I really dug the tune from the transformers movie. Wreckgartastic

  • @snazzyguy2000
    @snazzyguy20007 жыл бұрын

    Marshal Cavendish already did a magazine and tape series: Storyteller. Doing a video game magazine for them sounds silly.

  • @zandorius
    @zandorius7 жыл бұрын

    thanks for this, very interesting. Owned both Alchemist and ZipZap (?) back in the day. Fun times.

  • @goldenmantis
    @goldenmantis4 жыл бұрын

    I want a blue imagine racing team jacket!

  • @ewennicolson4342
    @ewennicolson43425 жыл бұрын

    Marshall Cavendish had nothing to do with the Megagames. That deal was for cover games for a part work series on computing. The games submitted were shit and MC asked for their dough back.

  • @paulphillips546

    @paulphillips546

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ewen Nicolson yep, not the most accurate of your work Kim, also there where so many more games from Imagine and they where a multi-format publisher never just concentrating on the Spectrum. I fondly remember playing their games on my vic 20.

  • @simonbutler1187
    @simonbutler11873 жыл бұрын

    The photograph of the chap sat at the artboard is Steve Blower, not Bruce Everiss.

  • @harrydigital9073
    @harrydigital90737 жыл бұрын

    Great story.. I mised Yie aR Kung Fu. Was my all time Imagine arcade and C64 game...

  • @Gunmetal_Wolf
    @Gunmetal_Wolf7 жыл бұрын

    Hey Kim, you going to do anything on Psygnosis as a company? I grew up with them way way WAYYY back in the day (think I'm one of the few Americans that owned an Amiga)

  • @tuffasgong

    @tuffasgong

    7 жыл бұрын

    She stated at the end that would be the next project.

  • @Gunmetal_Wolf

    @Gunmetal_Wolf

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ah, thought it was a different company. apologies then

  • @gmonkman
    @gmonkman7 жыл бұрын

    wonderful

  • @SameNameDifferentGame
    @SameNameDifferentGame7 жыл бұрын

    Nice use of Ted DiBiase's theme music.

  • @WeirdWonderful
    @WeirdWonderful7 жыл бұрын

    How do you keep making these half hour long in depth videos as frequently as you do I will never know. Probably there's dark magic involved.

  • @joedent3323

    @joedent3323

    Жыл бұрын

    Just one box of Black Magic, I think.

  • @jrherita
    @jrherita7 жыл бұрын

    Kim - is Westwood Studios on the pontential list for this style of review? Would love to hear the full story.. (I was so sad when EA killed them in ~ 2002).

  • @pansnemesis

    @pansnemesis

    7 жыл бұрын

    I went to High-school across the street from westwood in las vegas in the mid 90s. They would come over and let us test games and whatnot. We got to go over there a few times... Great memories... And yes I hated what ea did to them lol.

  • @whatamalike
    @whatamalike7 жыл бұрын

    Comrade justice strikes again!

  • @BobMarley-yq3wi
    @BobMarley-yq3wi10 ай бұрын

    The photo used for Bruce everis at 2:32 is incorrect. That’s Steve Blower - art director.

  • @mUbase
    @mUbase6 жыл бұрын

    Ooh! Is that a brief shot of Rick Wakeman at 16:29 ?? I do like Rick. :)

  • @bentobarreirinhas5702
    @bentobarreirinhas5702 Жыл бұрын

    wish I had played alchemist. Stonkers was great as was jumping jack, and it never crashed on my zx.

  • @ian_b
    @ian_b2 жыл бұрын

    Top searches: imagine kim justice imagine john lennon

  • @ErectedGasCan
    @ErectedGasCan4 жыл бұрын

    Is that the famous BBC sweater i spot worn on Everiss?! 😂

  • @kee1haul
    @kee1haul7 жыл бұрын

    I chuckle a little bit when I think of the people who haven't seen that Simpsons episode and don't get the Krusty jokes.

  • @tuffasgong

    @tuffasgong

    7 жыл бұрын

    Great episode: Homie (or Homer) the clown

  • @procactus9109
    @procactus91097 жыл бұрын

    What do the weird arrows on the letter C in Justice mean?

  • @chloedevereaux1801
    @chloedevereaux18014 жыл бұрын

    why at 22:20 are you playing the theme tune to steptoe and sons??????

  • @ccateni28
    @ccateni287 жыл бұрын

    the same year the video game crash of America happened, the computers in the UK had a lot of salesm

  • @gingernutpreacher
    @gingernutpreacher7 жыл бұрын

    any more info on the dongle?

  • @19822andy
    @19822andy7 жыл бұрын

    I love you Kim.

  • @kayDawgTV
    @kayDawgTV Жыл бұрын

    What is the music used at 10:20 and onward?

  • @NR-rv8rz
    @NR-rv8rz5 жыл бұрын

    Sheeet, it just hit me why they were called 'Imagine'. Liverpool, John Lennon's Imagine. doh.

  • @bvseediermedia6
    @bvseediermedia6 Жыл бұрын

    One of the best stories in Speccy Land ever. Imagine were a circus totally self absorbed in their own deluded hype and shockingly bad with revenue. Apart from several titles their games weren’t that great - and to further delude themselves that they’d pushed the Speccy to its limit and feel a need to go down a hardware expansion route just added to it. All whilst the likes of Ultimate and Hewson were doing development cartwheels all over them. 😂

  • @001lessie
    @001lessie7 жыл бұрын

    Hey man. Great content here. And excellent bass chops I have checked out as well. As a request maybe you could do an episode about don bluth and the cult classics like dragons lair and the space ace series. Anyway. When interested I am doing remasters of mod files. Today I finished the pinball illusions 2 title track. Grtz vic

  • @Eoliths
    @Eoliths5 жыл бұрын

    JUMPING JACK 'Really not good' how dare you!

  • @nickmoranis2865
    @nickmoranis28657 жыл бұрын

    That was a bit confusing. Talking about Imagine whilst showing a documentary about Ocean. Or was that just me?

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