When the comment section is left on that's a good sign.

@normmcinnis4102

Ай бұрын

Yep. I find that a lot of sites that I would love to respond to, have their comments turned off.

1. The entire prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27 covers a period of “seventy weeks.” This period applies to one complete, sequential block of time. This prophecy would start during the Persian period and would end during the time of the Messiah. 2. Logic requires that the 70th week follow immediately after the 69th week. If it does not, then it cannot properly be called the 70th week! 3. It is illogical to insert a 2,000-year gap between the 69th and the 70th week. No hint of this gap is found in the prophecy itself. There is no gap between the first 7 weeks and the following 62 weeks. Why insert one between the 69th and the 70th week? 4. Daniel 9:27 says nothing about a seven-year period of tribulation, or about any Antichrist 5. The focus of this prophecy is the Messiah, not the Antichrist. Modern interpreters have applied “the people of the prince” who would come to “destroy the city and the sanctuary” (verse 26) to the Antichrist. Yet the text does not say this. In the past, that sentence has been applied to the Romans, who under Prince Titus did “destroy the city and the sanctuary” in'‘A.D. 70 6. “He shall confirm the covenant.” Jesus Christ came “to confirm the promises made unto the fathers.” Romans 15:8. Nowhere in the Bible is Antichrist ever said to make or confirm a covenant with anyone! The word “covenant” always applies to the Messiah, never to the Antichrist! 7. “He shall confirm the covenant with many.” Jesus said, “This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.” Matthew 26:28. Jesus used the same words, because He knew that He was fulfilling Daniel 9:27! 8. “In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease.” The 70th week was from A.D. 27 to 34. After three and a half years of ministry, Christ died in A.D. 31, “in the midst [middle] of the week.” At the moment of His death, “the veil of the temple was rent [torn] in twain from the top to the bottom.” Matthew 27. The Great Sacrifice had been offered! 9. “For the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate.” Jesus plainly applied this “abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet” (Matthew 24:15) to the time when His followers were to flee from Jerusalem before the destruction of the second temple in A.D. 70. Jesus told His 12 disciples, “When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies [the Roman armies led by Prince Titus], then know that its desolation is near.” Luke 21:20, emphasis added. Those disciples did “see” those very events. Christ’s very last words to the Pharisees from inside the second temple were, “Behold, (Your house is left unto you desolate.” Matthew 23:38. Thus Daniel’s prophecy about Jerusalem becoming “desolate” was exactly fulfilled in A.D. 70! Jesus understood this perfectly. 10. Gabriel said that the 70'week prophecy specifically applied to the Jewish people (see Daniel 9:24). During the period of Christ’s public ministry of 3 1/2 years, the Master’s focus was largely upon “the lost sheep of the house of Israel” (Matthew 10:6). After His resurrection and then for another 3 1/2 years, His disciples preached mostly to Jews (see Acts 1-6). After that second 3 1/2-year period, in 34 A.D., the bold Stephen was stoned by the Jewish Sanhedrin (see Acts 7). This infamous deed marked the then-ruling Jewish leaders’ final, official rejection of the gospel of our Savior. Then the gospel went to the Gentiles. In Acts 9, Saul became Paul, the “apostle to the Gentiles” (Romans 11:13). In Acts 10, God gave Peter a vision revealing it was now time to preach to the Gentiles(see Acts l0:1-28). Read also Acts (l3:46) Thus approximately 3 1/2 years after the crucifixion-and at the end of the 70-week prophecy given for the Jewish people-the gospel shifted to the Gentiles exactly as predicted in Bible prophecy.

@gokartbob6478

2 ай бұрын

Yup. But the bible doesn't say THE antichrist is coming... It says MANY ANTICHRISTS ALREADY IN THE WORLD. 1john 2.18-22. And 4.3

@annigard8

Ай бұрын

So what is the 'one week' in the 'He shall confirm a covenant for one week?'

@tiptop9909

Ай бұрын

@@annigard8 About Daniel 9: Daniel was not praying about the end times or the antichrist but that he wanted to know what would happen to the Jews when they would be released from captivity in Babylon Daniel 9:27 says that he ‘confirms’ the covenant, which means that the covenant already existed. We only have to look back to Daniel 9:4 to see that Daniel is pleading with the Heavenly Father to remember His covenant of mercy to those who love Him. “And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments.” Daniel 9:27 is not saying that the covenant only lasts for seven years, as so many people proclaim about a supposed antichrist 7-year peace treaty. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease. The word ‘for’ was added by the translators. It’s simply saying that the covenant is confirmed in the seven years of the 70th week. And then it tells us when, in the middle of seven years, as Messiah’s blood sacrifice ended the need for temple animal sacrifices. "He shall confirm a covenant for ONE WEEK " It refers to the Messiah, who is the principal subject of the prophecy;and the work which, according to this,he was to perform was, during that "one week" to exert such an influence as would tend to establish a covenant between the people and God.

Thank you again, Paster Boonstra! For the clarity of our Lord's prophetic message.

Thank you so much, just come on your page and saw this awesome teaching. It actually helps me.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

Except he did not tell you the truth. Daniel 9 is written in chronological order. The 70 week does not happen till after Titus which is 70 a.d.

@billweir8824

Ай бұрын

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@billweir8824

Ай бұрын

The prophecy deals with Messiah cut off to deal with the problem of sin and is risen from the dead and has brought in everlasting righteousness having sealed up the covenant in his blood please see christadelphian bible study and Christadelphian videos​@@JamieElison

Thank you brother

“If the plain sense makes good sense seek no other sense or you will get nonsense” absolutely profound. Thank you for this lesson. Those verses in Daniel make way more sense to me now. It always felt like there were a lot of hoops that many other teachers were jumping through to make this about the Anti-Christ and end times. Shalom

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

Here is how this works.. Neh 2:1 And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king. From the month of Nisan unto Nisan, point A unto point B, exactly. ...from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build **Jerusalem** unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks..= 7 and 62 = From Nehemiah 2, 445bc subtract 483 converted to days = 173880 DAYS... MARCH 14 445bc to APRIL 6th 32 ad. Nisan 10 The triumphal entry In Luke 19

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment. The vision of Daniel 8 in verse 14 points to the vision being 2300 days long. The Adventist Church began that vision in 457 BC. There is some history behind why, but I will stick to the texts and history. Daniel chapter 8, as you read down the page, comes to the "little horn." throughout the past 200 years, the little horn has been considered the Holy Roman Empire. Here is the speaker's problem. The Roman Empire had not come to power; the Greek Empire was in control. The speaker is stuck with his traditions that began back in 1844. So where do these 2300 days fit? Answer: There are seven years of tribulation or some call time of trouble. Take 360 days/dates in a prophetic year X 7 years = 2520 days/dates in this tribulation, divided into two halves (see Daniel 9:27). Now lay out a timeline of 2520 days. Mark the middle with 1,260 on each side. The 2300 days end on the same date the 2520 ends, which is the end of the Great Tribulation. Do the math, and the "little horn" power will begin doing great evil, as is written before verse 14. Now, read after verse 14, and you will see the Angle Gabriel sent to Daniel to give him an understanding of this vision. Then Gabriel states two times this vision is for the last days of the end of time. One more critical detail. Daniel 9:24-27 Gabeirl returns to give Daniel more information connected to Daniel's end-time prophecy. Adventists claim the midst of the 70th week was the Cross. At my first look, it sounded good, but the details must be noticed. In the 70th week of Daniel's prophecy, the Adventists say Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD...how everything. You can't end the 70th week at the Cross and then say 70 AD fits into Daniel 9:26, where we are told the city is destroyed. Our trouble today is the same problem Israel has and has had from their beginning. People want a man to lead them instead of the Almighty Father and Son. Ask the honest question: Is the Adventist view starting this vision in the last days of 457 BC fit the literal meaning of what is written. It made sense for the religious group in 1844, but it is 2023, and we are not in the Kingdom yet. Today, the Adventist Church, like so many others, has some great truth, and they also get stuck with their doctrines cast into cement that can't be moved. Like the Catholic Church, they never change. The Adventist World Church is now over 22,000,000, so you don't grow that big without having something to offer. But they can't progress and follow the Cloud by day and the fire by night. So, most will be left behind thinking they are following Jesus because they believe their Church leaders are following Jesus. If the Church changed a central doctrine like the 2300-day view they have millions would leave their Church. Why? Because we are told that man would instead follow his traditions than his Creator. Shalom Pray for the wild Gentile branches and natural branches of the scattered house of Israel in all the Nations of this world. We are very close to the midst of Daniel's 70th week of the year. The wicked one has a full-court press and is moving us quickly to the final fulfillment of all things.

@BertGraef

8 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 the 2300 days are actual days, not years. The day for a year nonsense of the SDA s, along with thier endless "saturday is true sabbath" fetish, is absurdist theology and unabashed judaizing . The only place in scripture where a week of seven days actually is seven years is Daniels seventy week prophecy which actually becomes 490 years long because it made no sense historically otherwise, and is backed up by Genesis 29:27, where a week isan ancient hebrew euphemism and also seven years long. Gods time is our time. God demands complete and thorough accuracy in prohetic time statements. Those who misinterpret or change HIS TIMES into times that suit thier errrors and bad theology are simply abominable. Leviticus 19:35, Proverbs 20:10 and 20:23. And a day is not 1000 years either in prophecy. Peter is not making this up. He is quoting the Psalmist in Psalm 90:4 and the Psalmist is actually saying that time does not matter to God in the light of his eternal nature, not according to His divine whimsical fantasies when it comes to prophetic statements. God is God, and he is true. He does not become a trickster or deceiver when it comes to prophecy . That is the sign of a false prophet. Man is the deceiver and liar and twists Gods word to suit his bad eschatology, at a detriment to himself and others.

@BertGraef

8 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 Ths house of Israel was scattered and destroyed by 70AD. There are no lost tribes, only lost sinners. The national genealogies were all destroyed when the temple burned. And saying only God knows who or where they are today is simply shoring up the lost tribes myth, which then becomes another judaizing fable perpetrated on the gullible church. Paul clearly put his foot down against this sort of nonsense by saying in Galatians ch 4 ,that the cast out one had become those Jews who clinged to Mt Sinai, and refused to come to the New Zion. The Old system had become HAGAR, the one SENT AWAY. For Ishmael was not the child of promise. Isaac was. This was the reason the Jews hated and despised Paul to the point of death. 2000 years later, the church still doesnt seem to get Pauls main point.

@keepitrealoriginal

8 ай бұрын

Moses/Joshua David/Solomon John/Jesus Peter/Paul Church/144,000 Patterns

Thankyou for sharing.

Refreshing! Thank you!

The 70 years of Babylonian subservience is the punishment for Israel's violation of the Land Sabbath, not the weekly Sabbath. Israel was commanded to sow and harvest for 6 years, but the land was to lay fallow during the 7th year, so the land itself can enjoy Sabbath.

@johnl.6731

3 ай бұрын

Why not both?

So glad to hear someone sees that the Prince in Daniel is The Christ and not the anti. When I was new many, years ago i saw this but the main stream churches were not teaching it

@linegrant4605

8 ай бұрын

The antichrist is mentioned in Revelation 13 💯🙏

@linegrant4605

8 ай бұрын

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@teresasiner2308

6 ай бұрын

No Jesus spoke of “the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet” please let no man deceive you this video is false and the truth is it’s a latter day prophecy.. read my comment above

@DavidKing-qd3sp

5 ай бұрын

and the people of the prince are the - jews

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@DavidKing-qd3sp hey you got to stop breaking the ninth commandment!

Thanks!

Thank you!

Excellent lesson.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

What's 70 a.d.. when Titus destroyed the temple.. the 70 week is written after that.. the guy is SDA! They believe in the false prophet Ellen and that's what he is saying!. Why? because he's .. destroying the 2300 days of Daniel 8!

@ClayOfTheMaster

5 ай бұрын

@@JamieElison Ok? Take away Ellen White will not stop the fact that you STILL have to keep the Sabbath and the fact that the Bible prophesies a crisis of worship over the Sabbath in the last days.

@ClayOfTheMaster

5 ай бұрын

@@JamieElison When will you evangelicals LEARN from 1 Peter 3:15 and answer why you believe what you believe with MEEKNESS and not with ad hominems and genetic fallacies???

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

@@ClayOfTheMaster well if your SDA.. and if that's what you're saying. We can't remove Ellen.. because that is where you get (everything )that you believe including the Sabbath you're standing behind!... So who's your 1844 Jesus ? ) a levite Jesus )or is He the Jesus of Hebrews 7?.. ((( that does nothing at the alter))).. from the tribe of Judah...?

@ClayOfTheMaster

5 ай бұрын

@@JamieElison Why the the 3 paragraph marks? Was that purposeful? You do know that it is an anti-semitic identifier yes?

But there is a day coming in the future (2 Thessalonians 2:4) when the man of lawlessness sets himself in the temple "displaying himself as being god"

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

"He" is already there and has been for centuries. He sits in the midst of the Body of Christ, which is the new temple of God, calling himself "Christ on earth".

@mitchellosmer1293

9 ай бұрын

quote----But there is a day coming in the future (2 Thessalonians 2:4) when the man of lawlessness sets himself in the temple "displaying himself as being god"-unquote ALREADY happening!!! >>>The Catechism of the Council of Trent, p 402 second revised edition says, "The Church of God has thought it well to transfer the celebration and observance of the Sabbath to Sunday!" And “Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her-she could not have substituted the observance of Sunday, the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday, the seventh day, a change for which there is NO SCRIPTURAL AUTHORITY” - Stephen Keenan A Doctrinal Catechism p 174. >>>>What the Holy Bible says about the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope The Anti-christ sits in the temple of God proclaiming to be God….fulfilling 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. ---“..the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, (not a physical temple, but Christ’s Church. Eph. 2:19-22) showing himself that he is God.” ---Pope Innocent III said “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (Source: “Decretals of Greogory IX,” Book 1, chapter 3.) (Likely between 1200AD--1216AF) -->>>-Saint Pope Pius V blasphemed, “The Pope and God are the same, so he The title "Lord God the Pope" is found within a gloss of Extravagantes of Pope John XXII, title 14, chapter 4, (likely between 1550Ad & 1572AD) --->>>-In an Antwerp edition of the Extravagantes, the words, "Dominum Deum Nostrum Papam" (Our Lord God the Pope) can be found in column 153. In a Paris edition, they are found in column 140. has all power in Heaven and earth.” (Source: Pope Pius V, quoted in Barclay, Cities Petrus Bertanous Chapter XXVII: 218.) (likely between 1550AD and 1572AD) ---->>>>"Innocent III has written: "Indeed, it is not top much to say that in view of the sublimity of their offices the priests are so many gods." -The dignity of the priesthood by Liguori p, 36 >>>

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

@@mitchellosmer1293 Correct. This the very foundation of Protestantism. The Agents of Antichrist have been very successful, since then, of distorting Protestant end-times doctrine to make them forget that.

@rollinghillsslo

8 ай бұрын

John Wesley (1703-1791) (Methodist): Speaking of the Papacy, John Wesley wrote, “He is in an emphatical sense, the Man of Sin, as he increases all manner of sin above measure. And he is, too, properly styled the Son of Perdition, as he has caused the death of numberless multitudes, both of his opposers and followers… He it is…that exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped…claiming the highest power, and highest honour…claiming the prerogatives which belong to God alone.” Antichrist and His Ten Kingdoms, by John Wesley, pg. 110.

@rollinghillsslo

8 ай бұрын

Roger Williams (1603-1683) (First Baptist Pastor in America): Pastor Williams spoke of the Pope as “the pretended Vicar of Christ o­n earth, who sits as God over the Temple of God, exalting himself not o­nly above all that is called God, but over the souls and consciences of all his vassals, yea over the Spirit of Christ, over the Holy Spirit, yea, and God himself…speaking against the God of heaven, thinking to change times and laws; but he is the son of perdition (II Thess. 2).” The Prophetic Faith of Our Fathers, by Froom, Vol. 3, pg. 52. The Westminster Confession of Faith (1647): “There is no other head of the church but the Lord Jesus Christ. Nor can the pope of Rome in any sense be head thereof; but is that Antichrist, that man of sin and son of perdition that exalteth himself in the church against Christ and all that is called God.” The Creeds of Christendom With a History and Critical Notes, by Philip Schaff’s, III, p. 658, 659, ch. 25, sec. 6.

Fascinating!!

Thank You.

Daniel 11:21-24 And in his estate shall stand up a VILE PERSON, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: BUT HE SHALL COME IN PEACEABLY, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries. 22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea also the prince of the covenant. 23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people. 24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time. KJV

@MagicMayers

8 ай бұрын

Already fulfilled prior to Jesus' day. This is about Antiochus Epiphanes.

@nancyking2867

8 ай бұрын

@@MagicMayers NOPE, not already fulfilled, and Daniel prophecies through his visions, the coming of the antichrist, the seven year tribulation, and the END! Only 69 weeks have been fulfilled, leaving one week left to be fulfilled, a week of years, seven years. Daniel 8:24-26 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people. 25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. 26 And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days. KJV Daniel 8:13-14 Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. KJV Daniel 12:11-13 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. 13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot AT THE END OF THE DAYS. KJV Daniel 9:27 KJV

@MagicMayers

8 ай бұрын

@@nancyking2867 This was fulfilled in the days of the Maccabees. The early Christians did not and would not agree with you. You're repeating futurism which was invented c.1500s by the Jesuits in an effort to deflect attention away from the papacy as Antichrist. Jesus is Messiah the Prince and the 70th week is all about him.

@blustarmarketinsights6914

6 ай бұрын

Correct@@MagicMayers

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@nancyking2867 that was really good. I've studied that for 50 years .can you tell me the 2300 days?

Dear Shawn and readers. Dan 9:24: "Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city..." are the words Gabriel explained to Daniel. If we read the rest of this verse and apply the literal words without adding our own...Gabriel gave Daniel understanding in Daniel 9:24, 2 5, 26, 27 the understanding of Father's appointed times. These 70 weeks were 70 weeks of years or (7 0 X 7 = 490 years). They are also to confirm when the 2300 days fit into the appointed times. Dan 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision. Dan 8:19 And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be. Gabriel was very clear the 2300-day Prophecy given in Dan 8:9-14 is appointed for the "time of the end." Today, I have two major things I need help to make fit into Shawns' and the Adventist unmoveable 457 BC to 1844 AD time frame. 1. 457 BC was not the "time of the end" or "the appointed time of the end for this vision. 2. Daniel 8:9 shows the "Little Horn" power doing wicked deeds to God's people. The Little Horn began when the Greek Empire fell to the Little Horn power, which uprooted the other three horns that controlled the Greek Empire, and then the Roman Empire (Little Horn) began. 3. Daniel 2 gave us only 4 major Empires, and we have two legs, which advent teachers overlook. The Roman Empire The Western Roman Empire moved to the Eastern Roman Empire. The Western Roman Empire restored its power in the 1800s, and today, in Rome, Italy, the smallest and most powerful Nation in the World, and run by the most powerful man in the World. Who controls the Calendar controls the World, and we are already in a New World Order looking to have our US dollars changed to digital currency that will take another layer of slavery. Now let us move forward: Dan 9:26: "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the City and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. " In verse 26, history has recorded that a (Roman) prince came and destroyed Jerusalem in 70 AD. But we must be very honest with the words of Prophecy and stop listening to others who put words into our heads. Daniel 9:24 put the fall of Jerusalem inside of the 70-week Prophecy. It was supported again in Daniel 9:26 that the City and the sanctuary would be destroyed. Shawn and his Church has a problem: The fall of the City of Jerusalem and the Sanctuary will not fit within Shawn's or his Church's timeline, which ends 3.5 years after the Cross. Slow down and process these details, and pray for help. If I am wrong, then please correct me. I am so blessed when Father sends someone to turn me around. Shawn and the Seventh Day Adventist Church has held onto their teaching that began in 1844 and have not moved forward. I agree that if no new knowledge has been sent by the Father, we don't have more foundation stones. Shawn and his Church leadership apply the last 70th week or seven years to follow the 69th week. So they have the Cross in the midst of the last 70th week. Two significant questions Shawn B. can't answer: 1. Daniel 9:24: Were and when was the "Most Holy Anointed" that must fall within the 70th weeks? No Jesus will anoint the Most Holy on the 2300th day of this Prophecy at the end of the Great Tribulation of Matt 24. 2. Did Jesus/Yeshua anoint the Earthly Most Holy in Jerusalem when He walked upon the earth? No 3. Did Jesus/Yeshua anoint the Heavenly Temple's Most Holy, thus cleansing the Sanctuary each year on the Day of Atonement? No 4. If your answer to number 3 is yes, then you must believe there is an annual Day of Atonement in heaven when Jesus/Yeshua goes into the Most Holy on the Day of Atonement. What evidence do you have to support that understanding? 5. In Daniel 9:24 and 26, it is clear that the City of Jerusalam will be destroyed within that 70-week Prophecy. Please share with us how the math works for 70 AD to fall inside the 70-week forecast if your 70th weekends are 3.5 years after the Cross. I am not correcting you or your Church. That is the Holy Spirit's job. I always look for correction and will consider all your evidence to support your doctrine. I SEE YOU ARE OUTSIDE OF THE 70-WEEK PROPHECY BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE END OF THE 70 WEEKS AT THE STONING OF STEVEN. THE DESTRUCTION OF JERUSALEM IN 70 AD WILL NOT FIT ANYWHERE NEAR THE DEATH OF JESUS ON THE CROSS. As for me and my house, I will follow Jesus. Your Prophet Ellen White said that every generation would receive new light if they accepted the new light and walked in it; then there would be more light. This is following Jesus. Let us remember the story in the Exodus when Israel was led out of Egypt. They were to follow the Cloud by day and the Fire by night. They were moving forward. If they didn't progress, they would be left behind. If God's people stop moving forward on the pathway of truth when light is sent, Ellen White warned they would be very disappointed. God's judgments will begin in the House of God; it is a solemn duty to stand before the Father's flock and not be able to prepare the people for what will come upon God's people just ahead. I would love to sit with you and reason or speak on the phone. But it has been my experience that most Church leaders will have the same problem that the leaders in the Temple had. They try to prevent the people from receiving what is needed to prepare them for the Last Days. Jesus/Yeshua was an 'Outsider," and the Temple leaders saw his teachings as threatening. People mistakenly think their Church membership is a ticket into the Holy City. Church is a hospital where people find healing and how to walk out their lives in this crazy World. I must be careful not to reject the truth and be willing to be corrected. There is no time to be stiff-necked or stubborn today. God said people follow their traditions and deny his fact. Time is very short. Daniel 12 promised that some knowledge had been held back until the last days, then the Father would give understanding to those running to and fro seeking knowledge. Sorry, 1843/1844 were not the last days or the beginning of the previous days; they are not even the last years. 175 years have passed, and the SDA Church leaders have not led the flock even to the next campground. Why? Because they can't change. Like the Catholic Church, they are too big to change. Any change would cause people to leave the Church. When people grow up hearing the Church has truth, they follow their Church leaders. So, if a Church does make any changes, they are made very slowly over several generations. When the old guard dies off, then the Church can move something without many protesting. Today, many Adventist Pastors and members have come out of the Church for many reasons. In these last days, pray for the "Oil," if I am not Born Again with the Father's "Fire," I will not walk into the Holy City and be blessed with eternal life. I need the Father's "Fire" and the "Living Water" that Jesus/Yeshua said I must have to be saved. I must be born again and given a new heart, which is where our emotions or desires come from that drive our brain to operate everything. The Holy Spirit is the Fire, and I must keep the "Oil" full to keep the fire burning. I visit many different Churches and ask questions. The answers I receive tell me a lot. Please get ready, it is very late. The Church's view on the close of probation is incorrect. It is very near. It is so close, and millions will not be prepared. I have such a burden for all of Father's sheep and lambs. But today, Israel is more stubborn than Israel of the past. Sin has increased, and we are the weakest of all the generations. Mentally, physically, and spiritually. PRAY!!!!

@seekertruth3577

8 ай бұрын

*@sunmoonstars8471* You've mentioned the following, and I copied and pasted your very words: "Your Prophecy Ellen White said much about every generation would receive new light if that accepted the new light and walked in it then there would be more light given." *Quote close.* Now, I've just done a quick online search, and she also said the following: “I appreciate the truth, every jot of it, just as it has been given to me by the Holy Spirit for the last fifty years. *I desire every one to know that I stand on the same platform of truth that we have maintained for more than half a century.* That is the testimony I desire to bear on the day that I am seventy-eight years of age.” Letters and Manuscripts - Volume 20 (1905), Ms 142, 1905, par. 6 *She wrote the following in 1913:* - *“The increased light of the present day does not contradict or make of none effect the dimmer light of the past.”* The Signs of the Times August 26, 1913, paragraph 3. *The following statement was written in 1915.* - *“Let none seek to tear away the foundations of our faith,-the foundations that were laid at the beginning of our work, by prayerful study of the Word and by revelation. Upon these foundations, we have been building for more than fifty years. Men may suppose that they have found a new way, that they can lay a stronger foundation than that which has been laid; but this is a great deception. “Other foundation can no man lay than that is laid.” [1 Corinthians 3:11.] In the past, many have undertaken to build a new faith, to establish new principles; but how long did their building stand? It soon fell; for it was not founded upon the Rock."* Gospel Workers (1915 ed.), p. 307.1 *She died Feb. 13, 1915.* So, what is this new light you're suggesting? I've listened to numerous speakers from various denominations on this subject, and of all the controversial topics found in the Bible, none other has been so misunderstood, or abused than the prophecy known as Daniels 70 Weeks. I'm sure the readers and myself are extremely curious and would like to know your stand on this prophecy. *I am no theologian, please educate me and the rest of the readers.* You sound desperate to talk to Boonstra and teach him some new light.... or shall I say sharing the truth. Instead of leaving everyone wondering - why don't you do everyone a huge favor and give a proper analysis [line upon line, verse upon verse] of this prophecy beginning at the starting point to the very last week, known as the the70th week. Please quote from the Bible and historical sources only. Please provide the historical source/link and verses. You've addressed Shawn Boonstra and you type just about 814 words. I am sure you will be conservative and do at least a minimum of 2600 to 3500 words on the 70-Week Prophecy of Daniel. As I have mentioned above, I am no theologian but I am extremely curious what you have to say on this particular subject.

@Charles73358

8 ай бұрын

The day of Pentecost came in 33ad which fulfilled the 70th week prophecy

@chief270202

8 ай бұрын

@seekertruth3577 well I am no theologian either. And regardless if you want to call it the 70th week of Daniel, or the Tribulation period, there is one truth, if you are an honest Christian, is that the final generation is the fig tree generation. That prophecy has been fulfilled in 1948 as Israel reinhabited the land. Not one line of scripture refering to the last days, especially Revalation could come to pass prior to the last generation being in the land. And there is without a doubt a 7 year Tribulation period which is the last 7 years of life as we know it on this planet. Now I don't know if you're SDA, and honestly the only 2 things I know about them is the observe the correct Sabbath, and everything about the last days they wrongfully direct to the Catholics. So in fact, this man in the video is incorrect. And if you need the scriptures to prove my point, I am happy to provide them with any questions you might have

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

@@chief270202 I am So blessed to have an independent Spirit-filled brother respond. I also agree the Fig Tree Prophecy is a time-appointed prophecy. The command by the UN was made in 1947, and it was fulfilled, if my memory is correct, on May 15, 1948. Here, Jesus/Yeshua spoke about all these signs that would occur during the last generation, and the end would come in that generation. So I searched in the Scriptures and found (I don't have the text right now) that the average age is three scores and ten, but if strong, found score. I first took 1947 + 70 years, which has already passed. Then, adding 80 years for being strong, and we land on 2027 AD. If we use 1948, we add 2028 AD for the end of that generation. So we are told before, "This generation shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled." I recently returned from spending almost 3 years living on top of a mountain in a jungle, and during lockdown, the Father assigned me the job of searching the Scriptures, and I was shown so many things during over 4,000 hours of study. I only use the Scriptures and would love to connect with you. You can reach me at protondotme and in front of the at lastseventhmonth. I would love to hear from you and share our present understanding. Peace/Shalom from a Bond Servant of the Most High

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

@@seekertruth3577 Thank you for your comments and for sharing some quotes. In November 2019, my Father sent me to the Philippines for almost three years. During the lockdown, I was told to study prophecy. I began reading through Genesis to Revelation every year using a reading plan. It has transformed my life and understanding. I claim to have only some truth and knowledge of correct reality. All praise and credit is sent to the Throne. Daniel's vision in chapter 8 and Daniel 9:24 - 27 are critical. Yes, every word spoken is vital, and Father never says idle words. I, too, am seeking knowledge and investigating others who have a testimony. The Holy Spirit is the only teacher, and I can only share my present testimony; it is always moving me forward. I am not in the same place I was six months ago. I am trying to follow Jesus/Yeshua and only focus on him. I respect my brothers and sisters, who also strive to follow. I would like to see another's testimony only after I finish a study to seek out another survey to search for a correction or addition. The end of my exail is: atproton dot c-m. Please add in front: LastSeventhMonth. I can respond to your request much easier for you. Peace/Shalom

Good lesson, great information, thank you for taking the time. At the 24-25min mark you mentioned Saul "later became" Paul, when did that happen? I believe this is a common missunderstanding.

Amazing show!!

the big problem with this interpretation is that Dan 9:24 has clearly not been fulfilled. 2nd problem is that Jesus never made a 1 week covenant with anyone. 3rd problem is that sacrifice and oblation didn't cease at Christ's crucifixion. others see the fulfillment of the 69 weeks when Jesus rode into Jerusalem on the donkey and was welcomed as the Messiah, which makes the crucifixion a few days later and not "middle of 70th week".

@boltingpuppies

8 ай бұрын

Plus Christ was cut off after the 62 weeks (7 weeks + 62 weeks = total of 69 weeks). This still leaves one _full_ week.

@mytwocents777

8 ай бұрын

Daniel 9:24 is not presented as a set of criteria that will be fulfilled. It simply sets forth a time limit. The foretold crucifixion of Christ and ultimate destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in the same prophecy served to indicate that the criteria would not be met. Jesus defined his covenant (διαθήκης contract) "for (the) many" (mirroring that descriptor in Daniel 9:27 below) of the shedding of his blood for the forgiveness of their sins (i.e. the gospel/the new testament) at the last supper. [Mark 14:24, Matthew 26:28, parallel Luke 22:20] The Hebrew of 9:27 does not actually say "make" a strong covenant. It is more literally _"He will cause to be confirmed/strengthened covenant with regard to the many, one week"_ . The one week, or the seven years, in expanded prophetic terms, was constituted by his and his apostles' seven-year ministry following his baptism, in the middle of which he was killed. Jesus' sacrificial death made obsolete the temple sacrifices. Although the temple priests continued to inititate them, their efficacy was thenceforth nullified, as God no longer accepted them as valid transactions; thus the sacrifices ceased. Any who would propose a start of the 70th week as coinciding with any event (i.e. other than Christ's baptism) that would make the rest of the prophecy's otherwise perfectly visible fulfillment seem to fail are under the influence of those whose objective is exactly that.

@boltingpuppies

8 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 I addressed this in my other response to you so I don't want to repeat it all here. Succinctly, we cannot separate Daniel 9 from Daniel 7, 8 and 11. It is the little horn who *takes away the daily sacrifice* and throws truth to the ground.

@leroybroun4106

8 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 i understand all that, but it's too vague and loose. impossible to be able to determine the fulfillment of the prophecy. And Jesus New Covenant is for all and forever, not for many and for a week. and again, the sacrifices did not stop and that's what the prophecy said to look for. doesn't say to search for the mind of God to see if He accepts or rejects the daily sacrifices. not to mention that nothing else has come to pass by the end of the 70th week. it all has to be clearly observable or else it doesn't really inform us of anything. it either means what it says or forget it, cuz loosely we can all take it any way we want. that would just make all this man-made religion and i would stop paying attention to the Bible if anyone can make out of it anything they wanted.

@mytwocents777

8 ай бұрын

@@boltingpuppies Please see my response to your previous one, concerning this point.

Happy Sabbath Jason 🙌🏾🎊✨️

@stophatin1354

9 ай бұрын

The 7th day sabbath starts in the morning at sunrise, according to the KJV Bible. Genesis ch 1 and 2: 1-3, Exodus ch 16, Matthew 28: 1-7, Mark 15:25 and 33-34, Mark: 16: 1-7, Luke 24: 1-7, and John 20: 1-19. KJV Bible

@dougitoonsdesigns

9 ай бұрын

@@stophatin1354 I'll agree to disagree 😊

@stophatin1354

9 ай бұрын

@@dougitoonsdesigns well you're disagreeing with Kjv Scripture and GOD Himself, not me.

@mitchellosmer1293

9 ай бұрын

@@stophatin1354 quote--Genesis ch 1 and 2: 1-3, >>unquote> Gen 1:5, 1:8, 1:13, 1:19, 1:23, 1:31--ALL say evening (darkness) and the morning (light). Matt 28:1 Matthew 28:1 New International Version Jesus Has Risen 28 After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb. (AFTER-----First day of the week the whole world KNOWS that is Sunday) ----Mark 15:25----Mark 15:25 New International Version 25 It was nine in the morning when they crucified him Yes--Friday morning!!! >>Mark 15:33-34 New International Version The Death of Jesus 33 At noon, darkness came over the whole land until three in the afternoon. 34 And at three in the afternoon Jesus cried out in a loud voice, “Eloi, Eloi, lema sabachthani?” (which means “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?”). Friday afternoon--what is now called Good Friday!!! >>>Jesus Has Risen Mark 16:1 When the Sabbath was over, >>>Luke 24:1-7 New International Version Jesus Has Risen 24 On the first day of the week, very early in the morning, Sunday morning--we call Easter >>>John 20:1-19 New International Version The Empty Tomb 20 Early on the first day of the week, while it was still dark, Sunday morning!! So, what is the problem???

@mitchellosmer1293

9 ай бұрын

@@stophatin1354 quote----well you're disagreeing with Kjv Scripture and GOD Himself, not me.--unquote Nope--Only because you are taking verses OUT of context. ALL through Gen 1--it says Evening (darkness) and Morning (daylight) Sunset to sunset

There is only 3 and 1/2 years of Tribulation. 42 months. 1260 days. Time, times and half time.

Excellent. Sharing in Malaysia, etc.

The channel just popped up today. I expected the worst but was pleasantly surprised. There is a real sense of sadness that the simple story is not understood by so many true believers.

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree. It seems the highly educated need to keep things complex so the average person will just accept what their pastor says. I love pastors working to build up the Kingdom as their first goal. Building the church membership is not always the same, but it should be. Too much business in the church. Meeting in our homes or outside under the trees might be a blessing. There is too much money to budget and keep these expensive buildings and utilities going when the money could be spent to reach the last. It seems the time for the Gentiles is closing. There needs to be more outreach.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

Yeah but SDA.. is not a church ..nor does it have the real Jesus of the Bible yet!

What was purpose of the 70-year prophecy of Jeremiah? How could it end with the destruction of the Jerusalem when it was decreed to rebuild Jerusalem?

@lemnisgate8809

8 ай бұрын

Jerusalem was rebuilt to fulfill the promising of the coming messiah it can’t be more straight forward than that.

@johnl.6731

3 ай бұрын

It's admittedly a little confusing as there are three Medo-Persian decrees: 537 B.C. by Cyrus [Ezra 1:1-4], 520 B.C. by Darius I [Ezra 6:1-12], & 457 B.C. by Artaxerxes [7:11-26]. Cyrus' decree fulfills the end of Jeremiah's prophecy, & Artaxerxes decree fulfills the start of Daniel's prophecy. The reason for the latter is evident when we compare Daniel 9:25 to Ezra 7:25. The previous two prophecies concern only Jerusalem's temple, whereas the third grants civic provision. Did you find this helpful?

Shalom. You mentioned that Jesus ministry was for 3.5 years. Can you point me the scriptures that provided you with this period please?

The video says at 17:58 that Artaxerxes was ruling in 537 BC. This is not true. Cyrus was ruling in 537 BC.

@farwestgarohills3831

8 ай бұрын

During the rule of Cyrus, a decree was given by him to rebuild the Jerusalem and the temple but was never implemented. It was implemented only during the rule of the Artaxerxes II, who was also known as Ahasuerus, the husband of queen Esther. This date (537 BC) is not telling about Cyrus, but Artaxerxes II (is a title of the king, whose name was Ahasuerus).

@studywithmefolks5809

8 ай бұрын

@@farwestgarohills3831 the 537 date could not be speaking of Artaxerxes I or II because neither was alive in 537.

@MagicMayers

8 ай бұрын

You're correct and it seems the presenter misspoke or else mixed up his details when arriving at the name Artaxerxes. It's true that the 490 year count starts with Artaxerxes decree, but his decree is the final seal on his grandfather's original decree which had been stalemated up to that point. Really, the decree was triune in nature and spanned a generation i.e. 80 years. A decree declared beforehand by the Almighty which comes from the mouths of 3 witnesses...seems pretty scriptural to me. What he really should have said is that it was Artaxerxes decree which actually finally got the building completed AND restored Judah to autonomy. That's the key part.

@jimwest5027

4 ай бұрын

​@farwestgarohills3831 ... regardless of when the temple was finished, the prophesy is in reference to the decree to rebuild Jerusalem, and supposedly the Temple, which was in 537 by Cyrus, which means his numbers don't add up. His date 457 BC at 9:30 in the video is completely arbitrary in order to make his math work, which means his math doesn't work. The reign of Artaxerxes, from every source I've seen was 465 - 424 BC, which means again, his math doesn't add up. Unless you know where his 457 BC date came from, it seems to me he's inventing a clever system with a doubtful interpretation of Daniel 9.

@jimwest5027

4 ай бұрын

​@@MagicMayers... I just read Ezra 7, which he referenced, and Artaxerxes decree was not about building the temple, he was calling the Jews to Jerusalem and giving the gifts and utensils that were promised. It was the decree of Cyrus in 537 BC that was for rebuilding (Ezra 1:1-2), which means this guy's math doesn't work.

In Matthew 24 where Jesus makes reference to the abomination of desolation spoken by Daniel, Jesus is answering his disciples about the question of the sign of His second coming, the day he will return: Mat 24:11 "And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and THEN THE END will come. Mat 24:15 “So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Mat 24:29 “Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. "

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

Hello, yes, the Great Tribulation is just ahead. But Shawn" 's Church has already been fulfilled from 538AD to 1798AD. Shawn's Church believes the Book of Revelation is past history except for the last part of the 6th seal and the 7th Trumpet. But their own Prophet, Ellen Harmon/White, wrote a letter in 1847 to Eli Curtis correcting Eli for teaching that Michael had stood up. She said that she was given a vision that Michael and the "time of trouble" was the future. She set aside Mr. Miller's understanding that brought this great disappointment in 1844. If you think your church has been given a Prophet, then first believe the Scriptures and then believe your Prophet if what they say agrees with the Bible.

@MagicMayers

8 ай бұрын

You need to read it again more closely. Bear in mind, the disciples had just asked him specifically about the end of the Jewish state because he had just told them the temple would be destroyed and this would no doubt have brought images of Babylon destroying Solomon's temple to their minds. Matt 24:11, fulfilled: Simon Magus, Ebion, and Cerinthus, who denied the proper deity, and real humanity of Christ; Carpocrates, and the Gnostics his followers, the Nicolaitans, Hymcneus, Philetus, and others. Matt 24:15, fulfilled: "From signs, Christ proceeds to the immediate cause of the destruction of Jerusalem; which was, "the abomination of desolation", or the desolating abomination; or that abominable thing, which threatened and brought desolation upon the city, temple, and nation: by which is meant ... the Roman army...; see Luke 21:20 which was the , "the wing", or "army of abominations making desolate", Daniel 9:27. Armies are called wings, Isaiah 8:8 and the Roman armies were desolating ones to the Jews, and to whom they were an abomination; not only because they consisted of Heathen men, and uncircumcised persons, but chiefly because of the images of their gods, which were upon their ensigns: for images and idols were always an abomination to them ... and accordingly it is observed, that many did flee about this time; and it is remarked by several interpreters, and which Josephus (a) takes notice of with surprise, that Cestius Gallus having advanced with his army to Jerusalem, and besieged it, on a sudden, without any cause, raised the siege, and withdrew his army, when the city might have been easily taken; by which means a signal was made; and an opportunity given to the Christians, to make their escape: which they accordingly did, and went over Jordan, as Eusebius says (b), to a place called Pella; so that when Titus came a few mouths after, there was not a Christian in the city, but they had fled as they are here bidden to flee into the mountains." Matt 24:29, fulfilled: The sun darkened = His glory removed from their physical temple for good. The moon not giving light = Ceremonial law is no more. Power of heaven shaken = "all the ordinances of the legal dispensation; which shaking, and even removing of them, were foretold by Haggai 2:6 and explained by the author of the Epistle to the Hebrews, Hebrews 12:26 whereby room and way were made for Gospel ordinances to take place, and be established."

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

@@MagicMayers Thank you for your comment. You wrote, "Bear in mind, the disciples had just asked him specifically about the end of the Jewish state" I never read that in the Scriptures...please share what translation are you using? Let me copy the KJV text. Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? The signs that Jesus/Yeshua spoke and recorded after this verse are a long list of signs or events that will take place during the LAST GENERATION LIVING ON EARTH AT THE SECOND COMING. Here is the text in Matt 24 that causes my current view. Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled. It may be helpful to try a method of sorting things out working backwards. I asked people to go to Rev. 19: 11-21 where the King of Kigns is seen leaving heaven. Study Revelation backward can help unstick us or give us confirmation we were right or we see a problem with our past view. Rev. 19:1-10 We read what fallow the destruction of a Great City in chapter 18. Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth. What is the name of this Great City? Read Rev. 11 where we read and find the name of a Great City. After reading about this city being burned and destroyed... Read Rev. 17 where it tells us who and why destroyed this Great City. In Re. 17 we also read about the purpose of a military gathering by the wicked who has a plan to attach Jesus/Yeshua from the Holy Land near Jerusalem when he arrives at the Second Coming. So the Dragon, Whore, Beast surely know the season of the Second Coming, and gather to be ready to fight. It is sad my Adventst brothers and sisters have been told the Book of Revelation has been fulfilled. Their reason is still holding unto Mr. William Miller's check list checked off Daniel 12:1 and also Matt 24 and all of Revelation except the last part of the 6th seal and 7th trumpet. They think the next thing on the list is the Second Coming. The Church no longer believes there own Prophet Mrs. White. In 1847 she wrote a letter to Eli Curtis which is easy to find online. Here she corrected Eli, said the she was given a vision that Michael had not stood up and the "time of trouble" was future. She just said Mr. Miller had it wrong. In another unpublished manuscript which most members never read Mrs Whtie wrote that God have covered Mr. Millers eyes that prevented him from understanding the times that he was using. But at the end of time God would reveal what had been hidden by Mr. Miller. Shalom/Peace

@MagicMayers

8 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 Sure, you have to go back to the end of chapter 23 which connects to the start of 24. Just before Jesus leaves the temple he laments that Jerusalem will be left desolate. As they're leaving, the disciples point out the marvelous buildings (which were probably the fanciest things some of them had seen) and he tells them the temple will be entirely destroyed too. Then the disciples come to him later, privately, asking about the end of the age and his coming because what he'd just said made them think that the end of the age was upon them if Jerusalem and the temple were going to be destroyed and therefore the Messiah must surely be about to set up his Kingdom on earth, which was true and his kingdom is being built as we speak, and a new temple made without hands from living stones, they just didn't understand at the time how things were going to be done.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 the disciples asked him three questions you're only dealing with one of them!!! the last question what would happen at the (end of the world) which is Matthew 24:3.. which is Daniel 8: 17 Daniel 8:19 Daniel 8:23. When the (transgression of desolation) which is the (abomination of desolation Jesus is speaking about in Daniel 24:15)

Where does he get the 457 BC date on his graph at 19:30 in the video? It seems arbitrary in order to make his math work.

@johnl.6731

3 ай бұрын

Hi! It's clear you were paying close attention to ask a question so important as this, & I mean that sincerely. I hope you find this helpful! Though Shawn neglects to state it specifically within this video, there are actually three decrees given by Medo-Persian rulers regarding Jewish repatriation. He does mention the one from 537 B.C., which is given by Cyrus. Darius I gives another in 520 B.C., & the third is given by Artaxerxes in 457 B.C. (these decrees are mentioned in Ezra 1:1-4, 6:1-12, & 7:11-26, respectively). The reason he uses this third decree, as issued in 457 B.C. by Artaxerxes, as the starting point in prophecy calculation is because it gives not only religious provision, but provision for the restoration of civil government as well, whereas the first two decrees concern only the House of the Lord, a.k.a. the temple in Jerusalem (this distinction is evident in Ezra 7:25). Daniel 9:25 says, "...from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem...," & the 457 B.C. decree is the only one to fit that description. Please feel free to ask more!

"not one stone left standing" means just that. The wall people idolize is part of the Roman garrison. The temple was plowed like a field in the city of David. The "temple mound" is not where the temple stood. Recently, I learned this in my studying. Great topic for research.

@Shawn Boonstra, I think your missing something for verse 27. I prefer the KJV bible Dan. 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice AND the oblation to cease, AND for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Both the cessation of the sacrifice and oblation AND the making desolate an overspreading of abominations happened at the same time. At the crucifixion. You, yourself, showed how the Jewish Levitical system had become corrupt in Jesus' day. He even stated multiple times about "teaching for doctrines the commandments of men", "making void the law through their traditions", etc. This is why the word "abominations" is in the plural and "it" is singular. Individual laws in the Jewish Levitical/Mosaic law. It was ALL of the Levitical laws were made desolate as well as the laws concerning the sacrifices and oblations. The Handwriting of Ordinances (which Moses wrote in a book) that were nailed to the cross. The "He" in "He shall make it desolate" is the same "He" that confirms the covenant for one week and "He" causes the sacrifice and oblation to cease. Because the wording is similar to the "Abomination that maketh desolate" and the "Abomination of desolation" people think it must be the same thing. But one is a title giving to a singular power that makes things desolate. The other is something (in the plural) that is made desolate by the same "He" in verse 27. Would also have liked to hear you make mention that the word "determined" in verse 24 is a mistranslation. It is from the Hebrew word "ḥāṯaḵ" which means to "cut off", specifically "from the beginning of" something else. The translators of the KJV just couldn't figure out what Daniel's 70 weeks was cut off from so they substituted the word determined in it's place.

@ebbygshreve9577

8 ай бұрын

Jesus did confirmed the covenant for one week, from 27 Ad to 34 Ad. Jesus was crucified in the midst of that week. thus ending the sacrificial system. and in 34 Ad the Jews stoned Stephen to death and Paul told Acts 22:20- And when the blood of thy martyr Stephen was shed, I also was standing by, and consenting unto his death, and kept the raiment of them that slew him. Vs. 20-and he said unto me, Depart: for I will send thee far hence unto the Gentiles. Thus ending the probation of the Jews to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, Dan. 9:24.

@davidstarr6604

8 ай бұрын

@@ebbygshreve9577 I completely agree.

@farwestgarohills3831

8 ай бұрын

@davidstarr6604 ! He did not miss. In fact, you missed his explanation of that. Did you notice a chart, where there was written 27 AD and a cross? That chart was describing this verse. He knows the verse well as much as equal to his eloquence.

@davidstarr6604

8 ай бұрын

@@farwestgarohills3831 I saw that. And I noticed he is using the NKJV which translates "kānāp̄" as "wing" while the OLD KJV translates it as "overspreading". The idea being a "covering" like a hen covering her young with her wings. But in this context (Dan. 9:27) it is the abominations that have covered the land (Judea) in Jesus' time. He, ALSO, is confusing the text with the "abomination that maketh desolate" or the "abomination of desolation" (a reference to the coming anti-christ in Daniel 11:31, 12:11 and Matthew 24:15, Mark 13:14). They are not the same as the overspreading/wing of abominations in Dan. 9:27.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@davidstarr6604 it most certainly is David ..Daniel 9:27 is the same abomination of desolation!! Jesus tells you that in Matthew. 24:15.. but you don't want to listen to Jesus!

the problem with this view point in my humble opinion and I think is a BIG problem is when Jesus himself mentions the Daniel profecy in Matthew 24, when he very much describes the "end times" by saying on verses 21 and 22.. "21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. so, according to your viewpoint if Daniel 9 already happen, where does this Jesus's revelation of the "great tribulation" of future times fits into? I do believe we are living in a church age, a gap of some sort, and the 70th week of Daniel will probably start right after Jesus rapture his saints from this mad world we are living in right now that will actually get worse as we approach that time...

@thomasgrans3303

2 ай бұрын

@josuecerqueira7191 If Daniel 9 is fullfilled what is Jesus refering to? He is refering to Daniel 12. Daniel 9 Is what Jesus did when he came the first time - Its Gods blueprint so to say and the devil always copying what God does. The copy is in Daniel 12. The key is in the end of it. The abomination in Daniel 12 is in Rev.13. Its no need to have a gap in the history. God has one prophecy about Jesus first coming and a timeline for that time and the people of that time to be able to understrand when the promised Messiah could be expected to come and some did. What he was meant to do including the new covenant and to end the sacrifice both spiritually and physically for those who rejected him and punish the jews for the rejection and scatter them all over the world and in that way prepare for the second coming. Give Jesus the glory for the Daniel 9 prophecy and dont give the devil any attention in his attempt to steal that prophecy from us. God also have a second proophecy which have some similarities with Daniel 9 in Daniel 12 which is for the second coming and those of us who are wise shall understand (verse10). This wisdom comes by the holy spirit of course. This is another timeline to help the believers to understand the timeline of the tribulation and of the second coming of Christ to understand the startevent wich happens shortly before the tribualation. The coming of the two witnesses, antichrist and "the woman" in Rev.12 in a few days row after about 70 days. To understand when the abomination is set up in Rev.13 and when Jesus will come to the exakt day. We can by study the other timelines and reading Rev.12 and 13 and 2 Thess. 2 understand what we need to know when we need it but only short before it starts. We can also by that understand that the shortened time Jesus talks about is when the mark of the beast is here and no one can buy or sell. By easily subtract we get 45 days. This is really helpful to know. If that time isnt shortened no flesh will survive. I think after 45 days at least half of the christians have been martured so if it only should be the double 90 days only a handfull will still be alive. Seven years no way! So when i had found out about Daniel 12 which God has given me I had no problem with go against the 70th week of Daniel teaching but better is to show whats right instead of saying its wrong. By the way Daniel 12:4 says "seal until the endtime". Many think they know much but still they know less than they think

It is past time for the SDA church to acknowledge the obvious- the movement to bring the Jews back to the Holy Land is nothing short of a movement of God. See Deuteronomy 30:3,4: Isaiah 11:10-12: Luke 21:24: Ezekiel 36:21-25

So what your saying that Zechariah 14 has no meaning, Abba comes back at Meddigo. Valley of Jehoshaphat: the valley of Berachah (blessing). The general location of this valley is said to be around En Gedi (2 Chronicles 20). Either way, this would be somewhere west of the dead sea, which is south of Jerusalem. Valley of Megiddo: due just north of Jerusalem. Seeing how these are two different locations where Abba or Messiah are to engage the enemies, it is important to differentiate between what scriptures speak of what, which can be a bit confusing! It is also important do differentiate between these two battles. In the "valley of decision", Abba is going to pursue the nations after having driven them away from Jerusalem, and enter into final "judgement there", in that valley. However, the battle of armageddon is a response of the beast of Revelation and the world leaders, as a collective, with the intent of coming to fight Christ. From what I gather, Joel 1-2, Zech.14 speaks of Abbas return, thus Zech 14 would be His engaging of the enemies of Jerusalem who have surrounded her. Yet we have this verse... "For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem;"

Finally someone speaking the truth!

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

This is a false teaching, Jesus was speaking of latter days when speaking of the abomination of desolation in Matthew all you got to do is read the verses before and after… when the abomination of desolation sit in the holy place and blaspheme against the most high GOD is going to be the beginning of the great tribulation, tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world till this time, no, nor ever shall be, this is wen the sun and moon be darkened and the stars fall from the sky… I mean this is so easy, lol learn the parable of the fig tree.. idk how you got to your conclusion

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

Let no man deceive you

@blustarmarketinsights6914

8 ай бұрын

Maybe you should listen to his logic. What you are teaching is what you've been taught, not something you have done on your own. Matthew 24 was speaking expressly about the 70 AD judgment on Jerusalem. I'm not a 7th Day Adventist and can see this. Could it be you who has been decieved?@@teresasiner2308

@Bruce.-Wayne

6 ай бұрын

Yes, it could not have been any clearer than this....

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@Bruce.-Wayne Daniel 9 is written in chronological order. The 70th week is not spoken of until after Titus which is 70 A.D.. not one thing that he told you is the truth!

Seeing another reference to abomination, desolation and tying it to Daniel 9:27 really helped me. The Romans were "the people of the Prince to come" because Jesus used them to destroy the temple the same way He used Nebuchadnezzar. Futurism is like trying to build a pyramid from the top brick down. On paper the pieces do fit, but in practicality, there is no truth to it at all. Since "the end of the war" does not really tie to any one war, that means the holy land is cursed. When Jesus went back to heaven we were to follow Him there in our referencing of spiritual things. Indeed the conflict between good and evil was taken to the next level as the church spread beyond the region of Palestine. And church history is a repeat of Old Testament Israel's history. The time of the Judges parallels the early church in that there was no central leader and persecution was from without. Then after 313 AD when Constantine legalized the church we have a parallel to the time of the kings. Evil kings persecuted the faithful within the church and the Popes played this role for centuries. The division between Catholic and Orthodox parallels the divided kingdom after Solomon. And the time the Jews had after the captivity that Daniel 9:24-27 covers very closely matches the time we have had since the Reformation began with Martin Luther.

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

Excellence in understanding

@MrLesonfireforGod

9 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 Thank you, God is the true teacher of course.

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

@@MrLesonfireforGod Amen, brother

@rollinghillsslo

8 ай бұрын

John Wycliff is like the morning star of the reformation, long before Luther.

@seekingtruth8074

8 ай бұрын

Wow

If the Book of Daniel, specifically Chapter 9 had already been fulfilled in 70 A.D. as claimed, then we should not think, that the Prophecy of Daniel is the SHADOW (correlation/parallelism) of the Book of Revelation and the Olivet Discourse of Christ Jesus, if that is the case...

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

So Matthew 24:3 doesn't apply to this ..and the (abomination of desolation) written in the book of Daniel ( like Jesus tells you to go find it in the book of Daniel ).that doesn't matter either!

Excellent video, may God richly bless you Shawn!

@RichardAberdeen-cn8rg

6 ай бұрын

Daniel covers the entire span of history from Nebuchadnezzar thru the reign of the Anti-Christ, which most definitely has not yet happened. 70 AD was when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem because the Jews revolted.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

But Ellen White his false prophet from SDA says that Jesus the second Goat of Leviticus 16:10 (is the devil for the atonement) written in the investigative judgment. Look what that means!

@ericfolks1503

5 ай бұрын

Ellen white did not teach that the scapegoat was Christ. >You< need to do some homework on the of atonement and its spiritual fulfillment.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

@@ericfolks1503 I know what she said you're not telling the truth!. She first said the scapegoat (is the devil ). ((Jesus said..He is the sin bearer 1st Peter 2: 24.)..around 1900 or later she changed her mind .on that idea...( So you have the devil for the atonement )...does that making you happy because that does not give you salvation!! And sends you straight to hell... and is making you blaspheme the holy Spirit. By saying that ...are you going to stay standing on that position!

@ericfolks1503

5 ай бұрын

You are twisting what she said. Satan is not a sin bearer. He merely gets the blame for all the sin of the world. Study the day of atonement! Leviticus 16:22 ”The goat shall bear on itself all their iniquities to an uninhabited land; and he shall release the goat in the wilderness.“ ‭‭read Revelation 20:1-10

This episode is like a breath of fresh air. So very clearly and wonderfully explained. ✔️

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

Its not comprehensive..or all inclusive..

@truthbebold4009

8 ай бұрын

Except for the annoying ads

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

This is a false teaching, Jesus was speaking of latter days when speaking of the abomination of desolation in Matthew all you got to do is read the verses before and after… when the abomination of desolation sit in the holy place and blaspheme against the most high GOD is going to be the beginning of the great tribulation, tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world till this time, no, nor ever shall be, this is wen the sun and moon be darkened and the stars fall from the sky… I mean this is so easy, lol learn the parable of the fig tree.. idk how you got to your conclusion

@dougbell9543

8 ай бұрын

@@teresasiner2308 The faith of many will be destroyed when future events do not unfold as interpreted by the unstable rapture-centred dispensationalists. ✔️

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

@@dougbell9543 rapture is a false teaching

Happy Sabbath. Brother Shawn, I can not tell you how happy I am that new episodes are airing. I am thankful and grateful for your efforts. This is another outstanding and well researched episode. God bless you.

@VoiceOfProphecy

9 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words. We're glad to be back with season 6 of Authentic with Shawn Boonstra! We're even more grateful these episodes are blessing you! 😀

@desvanwyk5941

9 ай бұрын

I really enjoyed the way you laid out this prophesy. Revelation and Daniel remain my favourites and have studied bothbrather extensively since '64. God bless your work.

@farwestgarohills3831

8 ай бұрын

For you, it may be "another understanding". But for me, it is the same understanding that I have from my childhood. For, this is the teaching I received in my schooling.

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

@@VoiceOfProphecy Shawn Boonstra, just want to encourage you to keep the fire going and encourage the sheep to follow Jesus/Yeshua for he only will help the Bride of 144,000 to be a overcomes as Jesus was a overcome. It not popular today to teach there will be a semnant that will overcome sin by the indwelling power of the same Holy Spirit that anointed Jesus and gave him power to overcome all sin, and to help him stand stiffly and fulfill the Passover Lamb and also be our Morning and Evening Lamb for sins we are not able to confess. With much respect I do understand your personal view of the 2300 day prophecy and your understanding of Daniel 9:24-27. I have worked very hard to try to make it work according to your start time of 457 BC which was still during the Greek Empire. So the "Little Horn" we see doing evil in Daniel 8 leading up to verse 14 I see no way to apply the Roman Empire which is the last of the four major Empires of Daniel chapters 2; 7; 8; and Revelation chapters 13; 17; 18; and 19:2. Your Church today is too big to change a foundation doctrine that sets your apart from other Christian Churches. We all know the Catholic Church never changes and it's top down leadership model has been the Adventist model for many years. My understanding is that I must be a Bond Servant of the Most High fully surrendered and following the Cloud by day and the fire by night. Progress through 42 camping locations before Israel was allowed to cross over into the Promise Land. When I see a Church moving forward following Jesus/Yeshua I could follow that Church. I not looking for a perfect Church with perfect members. But I don't only audit a Churches doctrine, I audit what a Church has done, what they are doing today, and where they are headed. You and I know no Church will save us, it is only a hospital to help people get better so they can go to work for the Kingdom. Shawn here is a question I have after spending almost three years in the Philippines in a remote area studying prophecy for over 4,000 hours. Can you tell me where was the Father's Throne where Jesus say at the right hand of the Father. They sat side by side. I am sure you will point to the Father's Throne in heaven in the Temple outside of the Holy City. Here is the key to a big problem: Most believe Jesus returned and worked in the 1st Compartment called the Holy place where Aaron's sons interceeded for personal sins of Israel, except when the High Priest was in the Most Holy once a year. Then no personal confessions were allowed and not one Morning or Evening Lamb can be ollered on that Holy Day. So where was the First Father's Throne located. I know you will not guess by saying in the Holy place I think your educated on this topic, except you may not have been asked this question. The Bridegoom is coming for His perfect Bride who will live though the Great Tribulation and is only numbered to be 144,000 in number. If the Church today is teaching that number is symbolic they are not reading and following the rules of biblical inturpatation, and they have tossed their own prophet Ellen Harmon/White under the bus.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

The 70 week happens after 70 AD.. Daniel 9 is written in chronological order. The he in Daniel 9 is the he of Daniel 11:21 ((that wins the kingdom of the world buy flatteries) and is the (prince of the covenant) of Daniel 9:27 )!!!in verse 22 ,23. This guy's not coming from Jesus Christ!

Had to take another look at this presentation after watching a deceitfully constructed eschatology of Daniel 11 from the Jesuit counter reformation era that has been presented by many Protestant and Evangelical subscribers over the past 120 years. Mr. Boonstra has put together a short but very good and truthful historicist presentation on the gospel of Daniel 9, using the correct Biblical passages of history to illustrate the spiritual lesson given by God to the old covenant people of Israel. It has lessons for us today as we enter "the end of the days" of "the time of the end". Daniel 12:7-13

2000+ year interruption of Daniel's 70 week is a "Mystery or Secret" hid in God from other ages since the world began and only revealed to apostle Paul because of Ezekiel 28:3 to bring in the "Body of Christ" and gospel of Grace.

Amen 🙏 that was very enlightening! I'm very blessed. Happy Sabbath. 🙏💯👋

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

Here is how this works.. Neh 2:1 And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king. From the month of Nisan unto Nisan, point A unto point B, exactly. ...from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build **Jerusalem** unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks..= 7 and 62 = From Nehemiah 2, 445bc subtract 483 converted to days = 173880 DAYS... MARCH 14 445bc to APRIL 6th 32 ad. Nisan 10 The triumphal entry In Luke 19

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@carlcizek2189 except you stole that from the British guy from the 1800s. And your short 6.9 years ..you'd be shoveling snow in the middle of the summer you're not following the timeline that's actually given!

@carlcizek2189

5 ай бұрын

@@jimbob1644 You mean Sir Robert Anderson? I didn’t steal anything, its called being educated.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

​@@carlcizek2189if you were educated you wouldn't be breaking the 9th commandment every time you speak!

@carlcizek2189

5 ай бұрын

@@JamieElison do the math.

Very well said brother Shawn and well done. God bless this ministry.

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

This is a false teaching, Jesus was speaking of latter days when speaking of the abomination of desolation in Matthew all you got to do is read the verses before and after… when the abomination of desolation sit in the holy place and blaspheme against the most high GOD is going to be the beginning of the great tribulation, tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world till this time, no, nor ever shall be, this is wen the sun and moon be darkened and the stars fall from the sky… I mean this is so easy, lol learn the parable of the fig tree.. idk how you got to your conclusion

Amen and Amen

Hi Shawn! I love your show and learn something new every time I tune in. When speaking about that decree from Artaxerxes, shouldn’t the date be 457 BC, and not 537 BC? According to the Bible timeline it says he reigned from 464-424 BC. Ezra 7 states that this decree was made in his seventh year which would be 457 BC. Also, the math and date don’t quite match up when you add 490 years to 537, you land on 47 BC. Maybe I missed something, but I think the date was wrong. Just trying to save you from the naysayers out there! God bless.

@johnl.6731

3 ай бұрын

Hi! There are actually 3 different decrees which are given by Medo-Persian rulers recorded in Ezra, which can make things a little confusing. Shawn mentions the 537 B.C. decree given by Cyrus, as recorded in Ezra 1:1-4, but you'll notice his chart at timestamp 19:19 starts at 457 B.C., which does correspond to Ezra 7:11-26. That decree was given by Artaxerxes & is the only one that that fits Daniel 9:25 by also making civic provision for Judea, as we may observe in Ezra 7:25. (The second decree, issued in 520 B.C. by Darius I, is also recorded in Ezra 6:1-12 if you're interested.)

@radmilazoranpopazivanov4435

2 ай бұрын

It has nothing to do with those dates its for the end of this earth

@taylorwoods1288

2 ай бұрын

@@johnl.6731Correct, the 3 decrees each played a role in the Jews’ return to Jerusalem, but the 3rd by Artaxerxes was the most appropriate since the Israelites not only returned, but were able to fully continue the restoration with the backing of Persia to do so. This decree all but made Israel a separate independent nation. The 18 minute mark is where I got confused based upon his comments and slide and I did see his slide showing that timeline that you referenced, I was just trying to understand what it was that he was saying. Thanks for helping!

@taylorwoods1288

2 ай бұрын

@@radmilazoranpopazivanov4435Can you explain how this is for the end times or point to somewhere that can? From what I’ve studied, there’s no way for this can be applied to the end times. It’s also a bit concerning to say that it is because the “Last Week” in Daniel clearly describes the arrival of the messiah; which all Christians (I would assume) know is Jesus. Jesus is baptized and anointed with the Holy Spirit (Messiah = Anointed One = Christ) at the start of this last week, and in the midst of the week is cut off, but not for himself. Christ died 3.5 years into his ministry after he was baptized. He prophesied this in Luke 13:22. He also, as we know, did not die for himself, he did not sin therefore no penalty was incurred Romans 6:23). But because he took on our sin, he had to pay that penalty as the sacrificial lamb. Also John 3:16: he died for the world. Christ also makes the New Covenant with us: no more shall we have to sacrifice lambs and observe the feasts and look at laws written on stone. Christ fulfilled the feasts and the sacrificial system and he now commands us to keep the law in our hearts, not that those laws of stone were done away with, just where they are written (Hebrews 10). To say that it applies to the end time totally destroys one of the most (if not the most) important prophecies in the entire Bible. It pinpoints the arrival, work, and death of Jesus as the Messiah.

Thank you so very much for the clearest presentation of this that I have heard. I have believed this way for only about a year or two now, and I’m embarrassed to say that, even though when I was taught the more common way, even though I questioned it because it just didn’t seem to make sense to separate The 70th week from the 69th week, I never did further research. Shame on me and I’m glad that I have a better understanding now. Thank you.

@janettedavis6627

8 ай бұрын

Please read my comment.

@sunmoonstars8471

7 ай бұрын

Your're welcome, and all glory and thanks go to the Father's Throne. I am only try to run to an fro seeking knowledge. Yes, when the Cloud brought Israel to the Jordan River to cross over into the Promised Land, the lack of Faith caused God to turn them away to be led in the wilderness until all the 20+-year-old people died for not believing and trusting. Those under 60 years old 40 years later crossed over into the Promised Land without seeing death. This is a prophetic picture of a delay, and this delay we have been in is about to end. The generation born in 1947/1948 will not pass away before Jesus' Second Coming. The strong generation we find written to be fourscore or 80 years. Read and understand the Fig Tree prophecy in Matt 24 and learn who the Fig Tree is and what is hidden in the parable. There are seven years of Tribulation or 2520 days & nights. The seven years are divided into two parts. The first part is a lesser time of trouble or, some say, little time of trouble. The second half is the last 1,260 days or 42 months of the Great Tribulation and also the same time when Michael stands up for the last 1,260 days & nights. Ask me for a timeline my Father had given me when I was sent to Asia to live on a jungle mountaintop for almost three years during the pandemic. Find me: Last seventh month at proton. Me: Remove all the spaces.

@mikewood3309

7 ай бұрын

I completely share your sentiments, and has been my experience too! Unfortunately, it has now caused devision among family members who refuse to know the facts and continue to hold to the false interpretation, which I don't understand! I guess it's pride! Personally I'd rather know the truth rather than believe a lie.

@trulyso734

5 ай бұрын

@@mikewood3309 thats interesting. Where i live,this is not even a thing of discussion. (A separate cattle of fish challenge) Certainly not a church or personal point causing family division/issues. Careful about judging the pride/motive of fellow christians in the body for bothering to share their different understandings or background learned material.

@DavidKing-qd3sp

5 ай бұрын

this is SDA church and correct

☑ Thank you Praise God ❗😊 May God bless All who hear and receive and obey these Prophecies ✝️ 🙏

I only wish that this man of God would read a little further to (Daniel 12:1-13.) Here Daniel prophecies the future judgment, the resurrection, the abomination of desolation, the 3 1/2 year war, and the second coming of Christ "apart from sin for salvation." This would be when Daniel would arise to his inheritance, his salvation. All these things would be finished as we read (Daniel 12:7.) Confirmed by Christ himself prior to His death in (Matthew 24:34) "all these things fulfilled." "It makes plain sense that the one that rose again, completed his task, like He said He would in their generation? (Matt 5:17-18)

@thomasgrans3303

3 ай бұрын

@james-cq3mi Daniel 12 is key esp. v. 10-12

It's funny how history repeats itself. Even now, there are people building and saying; the temple of the Lord are these. In Jan. our leader stood in a temple of God saying "I have come to redeem America and save the world." I now know who the son of perdition is, spoken by Paul the prophet in 2 Thess.2. Because what he said what he said, and i know it's already been done for me and you; he's saying he is God. Son of perdition. Utter destruction. Good-bye America. Maui was a shot over the bow. The times and seasons of judgment, has begun. "But I will punish you according the fruit of your doings, saith the Lord: and I will kindle a fire in the forest thereof, and it shall devour all things round about it." Jer.21:14

You can't get from 457 BC in the spring of the year to the fall of 1844 with 2,300 it's impossible!!. (((There's 4 years and 28 days. Between the ending date of the 69th week and the cross. )))....April the 25th in the year 31.. ((((that's not in the middle of any seven!!!!)))

@johnl.6731

Ай бұрын

Starting in 457 B.C. & adding 2,300 years brings us to 1843, until we account for the lack of "Year 0", which gets us 1844. The reason for the Spring-to-Autumn transition is that this prophetic timeline began with the conclusion of 457's Passover (you can see it at the end of Ezra 6, right before the events of Ezra 7 in which Ezra arrives with the King’s missive), & culminates with 1844's Day of Atonement, the day when the sanctuary is cleansed. As for the extraneous 4 years & 28 days, I believe the removal sets us to only 3 years & 28 days, which falls within the 4th year of the 7-year period, therefore the middle of the "week".

@JamieElison

Ай бұрын

@@johnl.6731 yeah but Ezra chapter 7 verse 9 says it's the first day of the first month)!( when the decree goes forth. ).The decree is the (command ).the command is what he had in his hand when he left. Daniel 9:25 says when the (command goes fourth) you got to listen to what Jesus Christ actually is telling you. The (first day of the first month. Is Nissan one) established by Exodus 12:2..( is New Year's Day for the Jews). On the Jewish calendar at that time. There's no zero between A.D. and B.C. and( there is no number on the Jewish calendar to match it.)! So to establish what you're trying to say what year is it on the Jewish calendar today(. 2 days ago was New Year's Day on the old calendar for for Israel )..(Nissan 1).... So to establish what year it is( on the Jewish calendar) you have to add. 2024 to 3760 which is. BC 1.. when you do that you get 5784.. that is the (present day (Jewish year.) To get 457 b.c. you( subtract 457) from 3760. That number is (3303..) so to get 1844 ....you add 1844.. to 3760 which is 5604... Subtract 3303 from 5604 (and it's going to show you you're not telling the truth..)!!!! you've (created a zero theology) it doesn't exist! B.C. 1 is 3760 A .d.1 is 3761... You got to stop breaking the 9th commandment you technically don't exist!

@johnl.6731

Ай бұрын

@JamieElison @JamieElison You are correct in pointing out Ezra 7:9; I was mistaken in my Passover statement, & therefore off by 14 literal (non-prophetic) days. However, the end of this prophecy remains the Day of Atonement, as that is when sanctuary-cleansing occurs. As for the second matter, one still encounters this "year zero" problem because the Jewish calendar has no B.C./A.D. crossover point. One must subtract 457 from 3,760 to get 3,303. But because the 457 in question is B.C. (negative count), it's subtraction from 3,760 (A.D.-equivalent positive count) still results in a discrepancy of 1 year.

@JamieElison

Ай бұрын

@@johnl.6731 you're not in your right mind ..go read what I wrote again..(. Negative count as nothing to do with it!!). The Jewish calendar is the way you established this!! that's what it was when the prophecy was written !!!you're (trying to create confusion). by what you're doing! ( I am not going to let it happen here)... I have studied Daniel 8 for 50 years.. (you don't even know what it means!)!!!!!! That sanctuary in Daniel 8 has not even been built yet...! And it's not about salvation!!!! you can't have it both ways.! If you're going to add (another year )you're going to be at the the spring of the (Year 28 ).for your Daniel 9:27 concept)! it's not going to work! if you're trying to fix your 2300 days. And claiming it ends up in October ! You can't get to the fall....which no Day of atonement (ever is recorded that late in the year!)... It starts (in the spring of the Year!.)! Day of atonement hardly ever goes past the end of September! AD and BC is established for Jesus birthday that's one day that's a.d.1 New Year's!.. you're not speaking a year for that particular one day! You got to stop listening to your false prophet!

@johnl.6731

Ай бұрын

@JamieElison I will use a simple example. Let's say I live in the year 10 B.C. (aka -10), & I age 10 years. That puts me in the year 1 A.D. But wait! I thought -10+10=0, right? How can -10+10=1?

Superb lesson. Amen

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

This is a false teaching, Jesus was speaking of latter days when speaking of the abomination of desolation in Matthew all you got to do is read the verses before and after… when the abomination of desolation sit in the holy place and blaspheme against the most high GOD is going to be the beginning of the great tribulation, tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world till this time, no, nor ever shall be, this is wen the sun and moon be darkened and the stars fall from the sky… I mean this is so easy, lol learn the parable of the fig tree.. idk how you got to your conclusion

The Lord Jesus Christ NEVER confirmed a covenant for 7 years. His covenant with the believers is for ETERNITY.. He started a NEW Covenant ( Jeremiah 31) which lasts for ETERNITY. Why should Dan 9/27 go back in time to AD 30 referring to the Messiah when Dan 9/26 clearly refers to an event that took place in AD 70 involving Roman Titus?? Follow the chronological time line from Dan 9/ 25-27 and you will see that Dan 9/27 would be out of sync if it referred to Lord Yeshua Messiah.

@MagicMayers

8 ай бұрын

Methinks you need to look into literary styles and structures particular to the middle east instead of what seems to be a western eye. This is very similar to how Hebrew poetry uses chiasms to emphasize a point. In this instance, the emphasis is being placed on the Messiah being the one who is ultimately behind their destruction: 26 Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. 27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. 26 tells us Messiah is cut off for others and that the city and sanctuary will be destroyed by the prince to come while 27 tells us specifically that Messiah will be cut off mid week at which point he causes the sacrifice and offerings to cease and that ultimately, he will destroy the city and temple because of their abominations. There's nothing out of sync here.

You misspoke which year started the 70 weeks prophecy, was 457bc not 537bc

2 Peter 3:8: With the Lord, a thousand years is as a day. Cliff's comments about the Twin Paradox still disturbs me. Surely it doesn't apply to mental work/activity?

@solascriptura1844

9 ай бұрын

Day for a year is a biblically sound when understanding prophetic time frames.

@arfermo853

9 ай бұрын

But what if a day is as a thousand years means time is nothing to God ie a day is as a thousand years or 10million years or three months in other word God is not tied by time ,for him time is meaningless

@davidstarr6604

8 ай бұрын

II Peter 3:8 is explained in Ps. 90:4

Amen brother I totally agree with your interpretation of this Daniel 70th week prophecy the only thing that came up differently in my Mathematics of the 70th week fulfillment is that when the Holy Ghost came at the day of Pentecost in 33ad that fulfilled God's promise to Israel I started with the commission of Ezra to leave Babylon and go to Jerusalem to get the house of God in order because there were still many Jews married to strange women and foreign women and relationships and Ezra was sent to put God's law in place in 458bc so 458bc to 30ad the year the Jesus was crucified is 487 years and you take 6 months from the 487 which leaves 486 years and six months that were fulfilled then 3 1/2 years that remained and the Holy Ghost came at the day of Pentecost in 33ad the stoning of Stephen did not have any significance in the fulfillment of the 70 week prophecy the significance for the Jews was once Christ had shed his blood for the many as he told his disciples that it is expedient that he go away for if he did not go away the Comforter would not come. And the reason I picked 458bc as the starting point for God's count down of the 70 weeks because the Bible says to seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and all those other things shall be added unto you the building of the city and the land has no precedence over the Law of God and God used Ezra to do just that God bless your ministry! Amen 🙏!

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

My Brother, my heart leaps for joy when our Father makes divine appointments to bring us together to share our understanding with respect for what the Holy Spirit is doing in us and around us. Thank you for sharing. We all live with our English-translated Scriptures, and the Father knew how to protect HIs message. We were given rules off the pages of the Scriptures that will guide us into correct understanding. The Bible is also self-correcting if I use the rules. When Moses wrote the same warning we read at the end of Revelation that not one word be added or taken away, that warning was given for a reason. Daniel 7:25 points out the evil one will try to change "TIMES" and "LAWS," and he has succeeded in both. They are different, but some only point out one change from Sabbath Day to Sunday worship. Check out my response to a brother above for additional comments on this vital prophecy in Daniel 8 and Daniel 9:24-27. They are connected. If you look carefully, you will discover how to reach me. I just returned from Asia after spending over 4,000 hours on end-time prophecy. Much to share. Here is one question: The Lord returned to the Father and sat down on the Father's Throne, and they sat side by side. Where is that throne located? We all should know that the Father has another Throne in the Temple's Most Holy Place or some call Holy of Holies. Only the Father sits there, and Jesus/Yeshua only stands before the Father is never seen sitting there. You may be the first to get the correct answer. Since returning home, I have asked many people and am told no one ever thought to ask this question. Brother, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON IN HEAVEN, AND WHAT EVENTS WILL CHANGE THERE, AND HOW IT WILL EFFECT US HERE. SHALOM

@BertGraef

8 ай бұрын

@@messengerisrael3817 The elect in Christ are the true ISRAEL OF GOD. The zionist state of 1948 is the deception of satan upon the church.

@BertGraef

8 ай бұрын

@@messengerisrael3817 Abrahams seed are those by faith in Christ. Galatians 3:7-9. The real Jew is heart cirumcised and not outwardly, but an inward change of heart and mind. Born again by His spirit, not by fleshly will. No one enters the kingdom without being born again. He spoke these words to the Jews. Those who claim to have the Father, but deny the SON, are both GODLESS AND ANTICHRIST. 1 John 2:22-23.

@Charles73358

8 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 1 John 3:2 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. We should not have to consider or worry about where Jesus is sitting exactly its not important to know for the Bible says to judge nothing before the time . And also its the Holy Ghost within a believer that teaches how to rightfully divide the word of Truth The Bible in an of itself does not teach because the Bible is just the record of the living Word red and black ink on white paper for Jesus said that it is the spirit that quickens the flesh profits nothing the words that I speak unto thee they are spirit and they are life. For there are many that believe in interpreting the Bible literally but the natural man receives not the things of the spirit of God because it's foolish to him neither does he know them because it's spiritually discerned . When this mortal take on immortality we will be totally different than this present mortal man . Amen 🙏!

@ebbygshreve9577

8 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 Well I believe you are wrong because the bible plainly tells us that Jesus was seated on the right hand of God. Mark 16:19, Mark 14:62, Matthew 26:64, Luke 22:69, Hebrews 10:12, Hebrews 1:13, Matthew 22:44, Luke 20:42,

THANK YOU! That’s what I’ve been saying for decades! People got that idea from the ‘Left Behind’ books and movies. Drove me crazy every time I heard someone repeat that lie. I kept thinking, the passage of scripture clearly refers to the Messiah since it actually said so, so why do people say antichrist in place of the word Messiah? People heard that lie so long, they believe it no matter what the passage of scripture actually says.

@Gazman67

9 ай бұрын

So when was the Great tribulation and his gathering his believers unto himself. Your still here.

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

@@Gazman67 This interpretation does not presume that the great tribulation has concluded or that Christ has already come to gather his faithful.

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

The agents of the Antichrist, in the 16th century, during the Reformation, developed the Futurist end-times view (not for their own people, but for the Protestants). This primitive futurism eventually took root in Protestant thought and developed, largely in the mid-1800s, into what is now called Dispensationalism. The objective is to deceive Bible-based Christians into perpetually looking for the Antichrist to come some time in the future, after certain events in Jerusalem occur, and for a period of 7 years which is nowhere stated in scripture, and, even better, to convince them of a pre-tribulation rapture, by twisting the interpretations of the prophecies of Daniel and of John (Revelation) to agree with that objective. Although many Protestant pastors innocently promulgate this eschatology, because it is what they were taught, there have been others who, for centuries, have deliberately deceived the flock.

@ginaidoma5925

9 ай бұрын

Daniel 9:26-27 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Who are the people of the prince? Christians? You think Christians destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD? History says it was the Romans who did it. Romans who were pagans and idolaters. Are you claiming that pagan Romans are the people of Jesus? "the PEOPLE of the prince shall destroy the city and the sanctuary" The people of God were always Israel. Do you claim that Israel destroyed their own temple? According to history, Rome destroyed the 2nd Temple. The "prince" of Rome was Caesar....Render unto Caesar what is Caesar and to God what is God's. "Prince Messiah" is not "prince that shall come". The person who confirms the covenant does it for the OVERSPREADING OF ABOMINATIONS. If you think that the prince that shall come is Jesus...you are claiming Jesus performs abominations.

@Aldarionz9

9 ай бұрын

Jesus makes a covenant with one 7 and then breaks it?

Nicely said. It's good to hear Prophecy decoded correctly for a change.👍

@Charles73358

8 ай бұрын

Thanks God bless 🙌 🙏

@tedc4982

8 ай бұрын

“And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off..." Not 'baptized.' - Dan 9:26 So how was it "right on time?" in 27 AD? His crucifixion was 'right on time.' In 30 AD. Don't you realize it was Biblically Impossible for Ellen White to have understood the prophecies of the Book of Daniel...|? "And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for THE WORDS ARE CLOSED UP AND SEALED... UNTIL THE END." - Dan. 12:9 As in 'now.'

@tedc4982

8 ай бұрын

@@Charles73358 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off..." Not 'baptized.' - Dan 9:26 So how was it "right on time?" in 27 AD? His crucifixion was 'right on time.' In 30 AD. Don't you realize it was Biblically Impossible for Ellen White to have understood the prophecies of the Book of Daniel...|? "And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for THE WORDS ARE CLOSED UP AND SEALED... UNTIL THE END." - Dan. 12:9 As in 'now.'

@Charles73358

8 ай бұрын

@tedc4982 End of what ? Jesus was born in 1bc most Theologians have his birth at 4bc the year of King Herod's death but what they fail to realize is that an angel of God visited Joseph in a vision to take the child to Egypt because King Herod was seeking to kill the child so Jesus and his family went into Egypt and were there for 3 1/2 years and when they were told to return to their homeland Herod died in 4bc When Jesus was baptized he was 27 years old in 27ad with 3 years of ministry and Jesus was crucified at 30 years old in 30ad and 3 1/2 years later the Covenant is confirmed on the day of Pentecost on 33ad Amen 🙏. !

@tedc4982

8 ай бұрын

@@Charles73358 "And he said, “Go your way, Daniel, for THE WORDS ARE CLOSED UP AND SEALED... UNTIL THE END." - Dan. 12:9 Your argument's with the Bible.

I believe that Daniels prayer and realisation that 70 literal years of bondage were over , it was not a vision and it has nothing to do with 70 weeks of Dan 9:24-27. If we read 9:21 -23 we see that Daniels problem was a vision of chapter 8 that he didn’t understand, even after Gabriel tried to explain it to him. So Gabriel flew swiftly and informed Daniel that he has come to make Daniel understand the matter and consider the vision he has seen in chapter 8:11-19. This vision was (verses 17-19)for time of the END, the last END, at the time appointed shall the END be. And when disciples asked Jesus how will they know the end and the sigh, Jesus said plainly when you see abomination of desolation( means false god that destroys)spoken of by Daniel standing where it ought not…. You start counting Daniel 12:11. This is what we need to look for, it’s plain talk and it’s Jesus talking, I’d believe that any day over any other writer. So I believe that Daniel 9 is talking about false messiah, Jerusalem and Gods people at the very end, last 490 days before Jesus comes the second time. If you read revelation 11:3-13,2 literal witnesses will be living in the last 3.1/2 years in Jerusalem and they will be killed by the BEAST in Jerusalem where our Lord was crucified(vs7 and 8)in the middle of last week. Beast and they that dwell on the earth shall rejoice over them, they shall send gifts one to another rejoicing because these 2 prophets tormented them that dwell on the earth. It’s as simple as that, read it as it says, God made it plain for us. I believe like bible says; wise will understand but the wicked will not. Blessings

The phrase "of the prince" is only used in the Bible 3 times, and each of those times it's used to refer to the/an antichrist: Job 21:28 For you say, ‘Where is the house of the prince? And where is the tent, The dwelling place of the wicked?’ Proverbs 25:7 For it is better that he say to you, “Come up here,” Than that you should be put lower in the presence of the prince, Whom your eyes have seen. (this is a reference to the rapture of the Church "Come up here" vs. going through the Tribulation with antichrist/prince) Daniel 9:26 “And after the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself; And the people of the prince who is to come Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end of it shall be with a flood, And till the end of the war desolations are determined. It's clear from the text in Daniel that he is being given prophecy for the end of the age. Also, you're really making an almost impossible stretch by picking out the martyrdom of Stephen 3.5 years after Christ. Why? It's because it fits your 70th week. It doesn't make sense. Jesus didn't confirm a covenant for 7 years. Why would he? There is nothing to suggest that Stephen's death marks the end of the 70th week of Daniel. Look at the current events. The United Nations is meeting in a few weeks to confirm a 7 year covenant with many, right after the Feast of Trumpets. One last thing: of course the first 1800 years of Christians didn't see things the way we see them. These things were sealed up unto the time of the end. We are the last generation.

@michaelseay9783

9 ай бұрын

The impossible stretch is mis translating Daniel 9:24-27 and stretching the 70th week to an unknown future date. It is a deception and has been unashamedly been taught from the Synagogue of Satan for the past 150+ years.

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

I would say that a more impossible stretch would be to believe that, when God prophetically said 490 years, what he really meant was, 483 + [2,000 or more, indefinite] + 7.

@mikesandlin2967

9 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 He laid out a 6,000 year plan for mankind beginning with the creation week. There is ample evidence of this. Yet you’ve picked out one death and claimed it wraps up one of the most significant prophecies in the entire Bible. Come on.

@mytwocents777

9 ай бұрын

​@@mikesandlin2967 I am familar with the theory that there is to be 6,000 years of worldly existence, followed by a 7th millennium of existence with Christ; correlating with the six days of creation followed by the seventh-day Sabbath. Some even propose that Adam's lifetime of around 930 years - in this sense - literally fulfilled God's declaration of, "on that day you shall surely die", rather than simply meaning that his eventual death would become assured on that day, taking the first 1,000 years of mankind as the 1st millennial day of the abovementioned plan. I find it all very intriguing and, although I don't see direct statements supporting it in scripture, I also don't see a reason to reject this notion. However, I also don't see any reason that the directly-indicated period of 490 years (prophetically enumerated as 70 weeks) as the time limit for Daniel's people to acknowledge their Messiah should be interpreted as something other than 490 years, and certainly not as a period at least four times longer than what God actually indicated. I don't see how the face-value understanding of 490 years discussed in Daniel 9 has any conflict, or any immediate relationship, to the 6,000+1,000 theory, though. The prophecy of Daniel 9 is not pointing to the end of time or demarcating the last day of mankind on earth; rather only as far as to the rejection of the Messiah by the Judahites by the end of that 490th year and the destruction which would come upon them consequent to that. History shows that Christ did incarnate toward the end of that 490 years, was rejected and killed, and that Jerusalem was destroyed a few decades later. The prophecy was fulfilled.

@mikesandlin2967

9 ай бұрын

@@mytwocents777 The prophecy forbids the interpretation that it’s already been fulfilled. It has not. Just read it and this becomes clear. “Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy.” These things have not happened. You’re cherry picking an event, 1 martyr out of how many?… to suggest that completed Daniels 70th week. Wrong! The end of this prophecy is not Stephen being killed. That makes no sense. The timeline is fairly clear: Messiah cut off, not for himself = 30AD. The people of the prince (antichrist)… destroy the sanctuary = 70AD destruction of Jerusalem. THEN…… he shall confirm a covenant with many (1st seal broken, antichrist revealed, Tribulation begins = 2023? You’re taking the covenant and saying it happened before the 69th week. And that somehow the prince is Jesus. No. This is false on so many levels it’s borderline heresy.

I love your visuals, really helps to make things come to life. Thanks for your good explanation of a confusing topic!

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

And all he did was confused you more .but you don't know it!

Okay smarty-pants how do you explain Matthew 24 verse 15 seems like he's referring to the very end of days and he refers back to Daniel and the abomination of desolation it seems like that passage of Daniel's is referring to the very end of days that Matthew 24 talkin about smarty pants

AMEN to that be j

The Book of Revelation tends to disagree with the position that the 70 weeks of Daniel has been full filled already.

@Jsmith0819

8 ай бұрын

I feel the same. I'm not sure how anyone can think Revelation already happened. Yeah, there are some things that seemed to be fulfilled in 70ad, but certainly most of it wasn't (on top of the fact that best evidence is that revelation was written after 70ad). Instead it seems like 70ad just mirrors the future event, something that seems common in scripture. I have zero clue exactly what will happen, though I think some things are pretty clear. I would never state my opinions with the certainty displayed in this video. It makes me think of all those before the return of the Jews to Isreal who redefined the prophecies of Revelation to focus on the church instead of Isreal because they thought it was impossible that after 2000 years Isreal would become a nation again. I get that some things might have been muddled together that shouldn't, but I would never confidently declare which things those are as the potential for partial fulfillment is pretty strong.

@keepitrealoriginal

8 ай бұрын

Patterns. Also, fig tree. There has to be a remnant from Israel that formed in 1947 to be witnesses.

@ngdavid3925

8 ай бұрын

@@Jsmith0819 The prophecy of Daniel 9:24-27, has been fulfilled. Yet the 70 weeks time period was purposely separated into 7 + 62 + 1. This means that the 70th week will be granted to Israel the second time to confirm the Covenant (New) with GOD. Israel is the firstborn nation of all nations before GOD. Ex.4:22 They get to receive the double. Deut.21:17 They have received the double for their sins, and they will also receive the double for blessings. Isa.40:1-2 ; 61:7 They are now back in their land and it is ripe time for them to receive the double for the Gospel. Acts.3:26 ; Isa.62:1-4 ; Rom.11:15, 25-26 The final 7 years will be divided into two 3.5 years period. The first period is the Ministry of the 2 witnesses. Rev.11:1-7 The 2nd period is the rise of the man of sin, the son of perdition who would occupy Jerusalem and kill the 2 witnesses. Rev.13:1-5

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

This is a false teaching, Jesus was speaking of latter days when speaking of the abomination of desolation in Matthew all you got to do is read the verses before and after… when the abomination of desolation sit in the holy place and blaspheme against the most high GOD is going to be the beginning of the great tribulation, tribulation such as was not since the beginning of the world till this time, no, nor ever shall be, this is wen the sun and moon be darkened and the stars fall from the sky… I mean this is so easy, lol learn the parable of the fig tree.. idk how you got to your conclusion

@teresasiner2308

8 ай бұрын

@@keepitrealoriginalthe Jews being returned to Israel DIDNT happen yet Luke 21:24 the true Jews will be brought back at the coming of the LORD… The “Jewish” people are Edomites descendants of the brother of Jacob, Arabs are decedents of Ishmael… I tell you no lies do your research or hmu I’ll show you a lot… The native Egyptians was an dark race of ppl, the ones you see now are not native… Mose was mistaken for being an Egyptian and also brought in as pharaohs great grandchild so he had to be dark ASWELL but this is small points I have a lot more facts…. Let no man deceive you brother… look up pharaoh Tutankhamun tomb

You can preach your SDA point of view, it's your right. It doesn't mean that you ARE right.

@farwestgarohills3831

8 ай бұрын

He is right, indeed. You are telling he is wrong, as the Jews told that Jesus was wrong.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@farwestgarohills3831 you got to stop breaking the 9th commandment .that's all the SDA has ever done!. The first one was saying 457 BC. In the spring of the year you can get to 1844 with 2300 (it's impossible) and that's what created the foundation of the lie. that you're spinning right now!

@farwestgarohills3831

5 ай бұрын

@@jimbob1644 Where did I break the 0th commandment. You know what happened to Jews for rejecting God's messengers, and at last His Son whom He sent fo give His blood for therm? THEY WERE DESTROYED. You also will destroyed same manner for rejecting the truth being given to you.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@farwestgarohills3831 well...l to start with your confession of faith says the investigative judgment is the truth.!!!. and the investigative judgment says the second Goat of Leviticus 16:10( is the devil for the atonement..) which is Jesus Christ Himself ( 1st Peter 2:24) and He does Isaiah 43 verse 25. And you're saying that doesn't happen.!! You also say that you can get from 457 B.C. in the spring of the year to the fall of 1844 with 2300. To create the cult( that your false prophet made that false Jesus )..that I just told you you about.. not one thing that you teach and not one thing that you say. In its entirety ...is the truth... you break the ninth commandment every time you speak.. like Jesus told the Pharisees... the very words that you're using. John 8: 44

@farwestgarohills3831

5 ай бұрын

​@@jimbob1644 Can you prove it where it is written "the goat is Jesus Christ"? You people don't understand anything of the Bible; but go on saying blah! blah! blah!. Do you know the meaning of a CULT? You don't. I tell you. CULT IS A GROUP OF PEPLE WHO DEVIATE FROM THE ORIGINAL FAITH. What is the original faith? ALL ORIGINAL CHURCHES KEEPT THE SABBATH. But you CATHOLICS and so-called PROTESTANTS, deviated from that original faith. THE BIGGEST CULTS ARE THE CATHOLICS AND SUNDAY WORSHIPING PROTESTANTS. You must know it. 2 Thissalonian 2:9-12 says, because you people did not receive the love of truth, GOD HIMSELF will send a STRONG DELUSION, that you may CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THE LIES, so that YOU MAY BE DAMNED. What is the truth. Jesus is the truth. His law and His Sabbath is the truth of the Bible, which you all rejected. YOU MAY BE ALREADY DAMNED.

What’s the meaning of “wing of abominations comes one who makes desolate “ The Word is multilayered. Way more awesome than we could possibly imagine. Help!

@blustarmarketinsights6914

6 ай бұрын

Kanaph equals lateral edge of an army. Shikoots means idolatrous equal the Romans

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@blustarmarketinsights6914 🤯

Please turn the music down. I cannot focus on his message.

There was a second decree to rebuild the walls in 1535 by the Ottomans. It took all of 62 weeks but by then, Jerusalem was reunited with Israel. Then 7 weeks later we had two signs. The sign of the Virgin described in Rev 12. And the embassy move that sounds like planting their tents between the seas. So according to the second timeline and if it was telling the truth about natural birth, then he’s here already. Isa 40 says the punishment on Jerusalem was doubled. This explains why there’s 62 and 7. Messiah comes after both.

@ebbygshreve9577

8 ай бұрын

Read this article it will help you understand the 70 weeks of Daniel 9. Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy. RIGHT ON TIME PROPHECY. DANIEL 9:24, 25. What event and date were to mark the starting point for the 2,300-year and 490-year prophecies (Daniel 9:25)? Answer: The starting event was a decree from Persian King Artaxerxes authorizing God’s people (who were captive in Medo-Persia) to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the city. The decree, found in Ezra chapter 7, was issued in 457 bc-the seventh year of the king (verse 7)-and was implemented in the autumn. Artaxerxes began his reign in 464 bc. . The angel said that 69 prophetic weeks, or 483 literal years (69 x 7 = 483), added to 457 bc would reach to the Messiah (Daniel 9:25). Did it? . The angel said that 69 prophetic weeks, or 483 literal years (69 x 7 = 483), added to 457 bc would reach to the Messiah (Daniel 9:25). Did it? Answer: Yes! Mathematical calculations show that moving ahead 483 years from the fall of 457 bc reaches the fall of ad 27. (Note: There is no year 0.) The word “Messiah” includes the meaning of “anointed” (John 1:41, margin). Jesus was anointed with the Holy Spirit (Acts 10:38) at His baptism (Luke 3:21, 22). His anointing took place in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar (Luke 3:1), which was ad 27. And to think that the prediction was made more than 500 years before! Then Jesus began to preach that “the time is fulfilled.” He thus confirmed the prophecy (Mark 1:14, 15; Galatians 4:4). So Jesus actually began His ministry by clearly referring to the 2,300-year prophecy, stressing its importance and accuracy. This is awesome and thrilling evidence that: A. The Bible is inspired. B. Jesus is the Messiah. C. All other dates in the 2,300-year/490-year prophecy are valid. What a firm foundation on which to build! We have now considered 483 years of the 490-year prophecy. There is one prophetic week-seven literal years-left (Daniel 9:26, 27). What happens next and when? Answer: Jesus was “cut off” or crucified “in the middle of the week,” which is three and a half years after His anointing-or the spring of ad 31. Please notice that the gospel is revealed in verse 26: “After the sixty-two weeks Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself.” No-praise God!-when Jesus was cut off, it was not for Himself. He “who committed no sin” (1 Peter 2:22) was crucified for our sins (1 Corinthians 15:3; Isaiah 53:5). Jesus lovingly and willingly offered His life to save us from sin. Hallelujah! What a Savior! Jesus’ atoning sacrifice is the very heart of Daniel chapters 8 and 9. The disciples preached to multitudes of Jews. The disciples preached to multitudes of Jews. . Since Jesus died after three and a half years, how could He “confirm the covenant with many” (KJV) for all of the final seven years, as the prophecy in Daniel 9:27 mandates? Answer: The covenant is His blessed agreement to save people from their sins (Hebrews 10:16, 17). After His ministry of three and a half years ended, Jesus confirmed the covenant through His disciples (Hebrews 2:3). He sent them first to the Jewish nation (Matthew 10:5, 6) because His chosen people still had three and a half years remaining of their 490-year opportunity to repent as a nation. After the stoning of Stephen, the disciples began preaching to the Gentiles. After the stoning of Stephen, the disciples began preaching to the Gentiles. When the 490-year period of final opportunity for the Jewish nation ended in the fall of ad 34, what did the disciples do? Answer: They began preaching the gospel to other people and nations of the world (Acts 13:46). Stephen, a righteous deacon, was publicly stoned in ad 34. From that date onward, the Jews, because they collectively rejected Jesus and God’s plan, could no longer be God’s chosen people or nation. Instead, God now counts people of all nationalities who accept and serve Him as spiritual Jews. They have become His chosen people-“heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:27-29). Spiritual Jews, of course, include Jewish people who individually accept and serve Jesus (Romans 2:28, 29). After AD 34, how many years of the 2,300-year prophecy remained? What is the ending date for the prophecy? What did the angel say would happen on that date (Daniel 8:14)?

@jerryhogeweide5288

8 ай бұрын

@@ebbygshreve9577 I’m not so sure god doesn’t have a soft spot for the Jewish people. Jesus was also the Atonement goat that was sacrificed. It’s a two part deal though and the scapegoat was supposed handed over to a caretaker who would take the goat into the wilderness. He was then supposed to let the goat go free. But instead, the rabbis figured it would be better to just lead the scapegoat over a cliff because they didn’t want it to wander back to the city. The Jews rejected the sacrifice but instead made him their national scapegoat. His name is a curse word there. Anyone associated with Christianity is ostracized. That temple was destroyed because Jesus did end the sacrifice but also because they did not follow the strict commandments of the most important of sacrifices. Eventually they’ll come to their senses. That’s why it says ‘they will look upon him whom they’ve been piercing and mourn for him like the firstborn son.’ When they repent, it will be easier for them to swap goats. Stop making him the villain and appreciate what he attempted to do in confirming the new covenant. Yes it look like the ones who thought they’d be first are coming in dead last. It’s not the Jewish people’s fault. It’s the wayward rabbis leading the blinded. Pat yourself on the back but give some space for the Jewish people stuck in Judaism. I still think my interpretation is better than yours in explaining why it took 62 weeks to rebuild Jerusalem. I also believe hod doesn’t mess up and leave things undone. He knew it would take a couple try’s to wake up those hardened rabbis to loosen their iron grip on those people.

You got it right. Nowhere in daniel chapter 9 is the word antichrist ever used. The prince in chapter 9 is referring to Jesus and his 7 year earthly ministry. This is also where most people get a 7 year tribulation teaching from in regards to the future. But there is no biblical basis for it.

@michaelseay9783

9 ай бұрын

I agree. Satan literally hijacked Daniel 9:27 and twisted it around and it’s very much still being taught.

@sojablack484

9 ай бұрын

Jesus ministry started when he was baptized, he did not live 7 years after his baptism. Antichrist should get 7 years also, he is the opposite of Christ. Daniel never used the word antichrist in any of his chapters. Antichrist is a new testament description. Messiah had not existent in the old testament. Daniel refer to him as a horn in Daniel 7:24-25, king in 11: 31-37. The 7 year covenant is Daniel chapter 7, confirmed by the same vision John had in Revelation chapter 13.

@sojablack484

9 ай бұрын

@@davidmcpott1924 The romans NEVER had ten rulers at the same time: Name them. John had the same vision, so the 7th trumpet prophecy has been fulfilled also and the 3rd woe ?

@BrentSteinberg

9 ай бұрын

Ser daniel 9.:26 "AND AFTER 62 WEEKS AN ANOINTED ONE SHALL BE CUT OFF AND SHALL HAVE NOTHING. AND THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE WHO IS TO COME SHALL DESTROY THE CITY AND THE SANCTUARY. ITS END SHALL COME WITH A FLOOD, AND TO THE END THERE SHALL BE WAR DESOLATIONS ARE DECREED" An anointed one or in the kjv its messiah the prince shall be cut off but not for his own sake. Certainly refers to Jesus. The people of the prince that shall come refers to the jewish war when in 70 ad. Titus under the reighn of vespaisian ran sacked the jewish temple according to the prophesy which Jesus gave in MATT.24 WILL GET BACK TO YOU ON DANIEL 9:27.

@sojablack484

9 ай бұрын

@@BrentSteinberg There shall be 7 weeks and 62 weeks 9:25 Afrer the 62 weeks the Messiah shall be cutoff, also Isaiah 53:8 He was cutoff from the living for the transgressions of my people He was stricken not the middle of the 70th week. Nissan 14, 69th week day of crucifixion.(30-33AD) His ministry did not last 7 years , he was not 37 years old when he died. 9:26 is 70AD The Messiah was cutoff after 69 weeks before verse 26 (70AD) He cannot appear in the middle of the week in verse 27

There are some dates in this video that seem off. The 15th year of Tiberius' reign was 29AD, not 27AD, so Christ was probably baptised in early 29AD before the first Passover mentioned in John 2:13 so 29AD also. The next Passover mentioned explicitly is John 6:4, so this would have been 30AD. The next Passover is in John 13 when Christ died, so this would be 31AD. There is debate about John 5:1, was this Passover, Shavuot or Tabernacles, it had to be one of the 3 as the Jews went up to Jerusalem for these 3 feasts. The fact that Passover was explicitly mentioned in the other passages but not in John 5:1 could suggest it was Shavuot or tabernacles. In any case we have 3 definite Passovers which would lead to Christ dying in 31AD. Passover that year was 25/4/31AD. If you count back 173880 days or 483 prophetic years, you arrive at April 4th 446BC. Daniel 9:26 says the Messiah shall be cut off, this would indicate death not baptism. April 4th 446BC is Nisan 11 that year which matches the Nehemiah 2:1 scripture 2:1, in the 20th year of Artaxerxes in the month of Nisan. This is the commandment to rebuild Jerusalem. Daniel 9:25 says...the command to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, not the temple as described in Ezra. So was 446BC the 20th year of Artaxerxes? If he started his reign in July of 465BC and I believe it was 11th July 465BC based on cosmological events on that day, (see Stellarium for details), then exactly 19 prophetic years or 6840 days is April 3rd 446BC, the next day would be the first day of the 20th year of his reign which matches exactly to the day, 483 years or 173880 before the death of Christ on 25/4/31AD. Some very interesting dates and co-incidences and I believe some evidence that Christ died in 31AD and that the command to rebuild Jerusalem was 4th April 446BC (in the month of Nisan).

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

The time may be of using a Roman calendar. Israel used a Lunar-solar Calendar. Shawn's Church supports William Miller's understanding, and Miller used a Karite Calendar, which was better than what Israel used. A lunar-solar calendar uses the sun, earth, moon, and stars. People are ignorant today of the old pathways of doing everything Father's way is set aside, and people love their traditions more. Nothing new under the sun.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 yeah .and you're the one that is showing the very word you just used... What you just said is not truth!

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

US naval observatory calendars. Greenwich village England time placed 2 hours ahead of time. To match Israeli time. Puts Jesus crucifixion on April 25th. On a Wednesday Nissan 14. In the year 31... Based upon John 19:31 Luke 23 verse 56 mark 16.1 and Exodus 12 Which the 69 weeks of Daniel 9. The ending date is the last day of the year 26 on the Jewish calendar. On the Roman calendar that is March the 28th. In the year 27. On a Friday. From there to the Cross is 4 years and 28 days SDA.. does not like to see that....!!!!!

Is this what they mean by “ artistic liberty “? So many scriptures ignored to tell this “ story “. Even Jesus referenced the abomination that make desolate that Daniel spoke of in a future tense. Scriptures were twisted to suit the story. I suggest folks should follow Paul’s instructions to Timothy, study to show yourselves approved…that you may rightly divide ( apply ) the word. Flee from false teaching. Mark them, and stay away from them.

Happy Sabbath y'all.

@kat-75

9 ай бұрын

Not h Where I am just yet

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

Happy Sunday to you too!

The word "anti" in antichrist does not mean someone who is going to be openly anti (against) Christ. That word "anti" in the original Bible language can actually mean "IN PLACE OF". So could the bible antichrist be someone who has actually put himself "in place of" Christ? Well, we have further Bible evidence to support this. In 1 John 2:18-19 it says that there were "many antichrists", who "WENT OUT FROM THE CHURCH". In other words, John is pointing to the fact that those "antichrists" were WITHIN THE CHURCH!! Not only that, but Paul in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 calls the man of sin the "son of perdition". Now there is only one other place in the Bible where the name "son of perdition" is used, and that is in John 17:12 talking about JUDAS! And what was Judas? A professing follower of Christ Jesus. Someone who deceived from WITHIN the "church". "The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who TAKES THE PLACE of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity." (John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994). "ANTI" - Christ = "IN PLACE OF" Christ!

@thomasgrans3303

8 ай бұрын

@rickswineberg Anti means both instead of and against Christ. The first beast in rev.13 is the AC. He is mentioned in some different ways depending of who describes him. Of course there is antichristly systems as RCC but John talks about many antichrists at his time but many more has passed since his time. John talks about the antichrist, so we shall know there is a special one who has a purpouse as Judas also had and is predicted to judgement to bring the fulfillment of prophecy to come to pass. He gets his power from the devil and its described in rev. 12 and 13 how that happens in the spiritual realms. In rev. 17 there 10 kings who have the same mind as him gives him their own thrones which is that they hand over their power to him. This is what the world will see. He is the rider on the white horse in rev.6 and the other horses is what happens becaurse of him. He is the devils copy of the rider of the white horse in the end of the book of revelation which of course is Jesus Christ coming as the king of kings to take over the reign of the earth. Antichrist can not be a system or many persons he is one man in one time and his time is 42 months and we see how he and the false prophet is cast in the lake of fire. The judgement of antichrist is the evidence that he is one man.

A ministry of 3 1/2 years of Jesus is not supported by the Gospels. If it is then we are missing lots of pages as the Holy days, feast days, etc do not add up. Each time I watch someone on youtube with an arrogant channel name try to explain this or that in the bible I am reminded of Jesus' words about many will come in my name...

You've got a mistake here at 17:19. Daniel 9:25 says "anointed,." Anointed does not in any way mean "Messiah." You have a falsely translated English language bible there.

"The abomination of the DESOLATOR"... That is what it says in the original Hebrew. 100% a reference to the antichrist in a yet future time. Also, Jesus said "not one stone" would be left standing on another, yet the wailing wall still stands. This prophecy has not yet been fulfilled. It will be when New Jerusalem settles down on the temple mount.

@NevillePeter777

9 ай бұрын

is the Wailing Wall part of the actual temple or is it part of the outer wall that is before or surrounded the temple?

@NevillePeter777

9 ай бұрын

I just did some quick research. The western wall or what we refer to as the Wailing Wall was not a part of the Jewish temple. It was a part of the temple complex and was a part of a structure that supported the temple, but not a part of the temple itself. So, no future antichrist. when Jesus said no stone would be left upon another his prophecy came true. No stone was left of the original actual temple.

@RisenShine-zy7dn

9 ай бұрын

The wailing wall today was built by King Herod in the 1st century BC as a retaining wall and was NOT the temple mount or the temple that was destroyed in 70 AD by Titus. Daniel 9 does not mention any anti-christ. It does mention the prince of the people to come and that was Titus, almost 2000 years ago. Apart from that Daniel 9 was all about Jesus Christ NOT about anti-christ. All of Daniel 9 is about 'The Messiah'' Read the whole chapter. Read it from the Septuagint. Google Septuagint. It's not the abomination of the desolator It's the abomination that makes desolate. What is the abomination? = The Jews rejected their Messiah What is the desolation? = God abandoned the earthly city pf Jerusalem for becoming a harlot. Read Deuteronomy 28 The blessings and the curses if they obeyed or disobeyed. It has been fulfilled. Just as the prophets and Jesus said.

@michaelseay9783

9 ай бұрын

Prophecy was fulfilled in 70 AD. Jerusalem and the Temple were destroyed.

@usernametaken6659

9 ай бұрын

What are you referencing because I can not find it anywhere saying desolator? Furthermore, the wailing wall is not where not temple sat, the wailing wall is a foundational structure where the roman barracks stood. You can look up archeological evidence to see where the temple was.

Sorry, brother, you couldn't be more wrong. 70th week aside, the is 100% 7 years that will be the book of Revelation, and Daniel is almost a mirror copy

@dmw6539

8 ай бұрын

Yes he is wrong, Jesus read from the book of isiah and stopped at a comma, The last week is on pause. The books of Revelation, 2nd Thes and Matthew 24 all tie together with the book of Daniel. This reminds me of the Catholic teaching of Revelation. Sorry Brother. don't agree.

@vnilla1579

8 ай бұрын

@@dmw6539This is 7th day adventist teaching. As soon as I heard 5 minutes of his teaching I had a hunch he was SDA, so I looked him up and wasn't surprised to find that he is.

@bwevemuzk

8 ай бұрын

This is exactly how Luther, calvin and all the reformers interpreted daniel 9. Even isaac newton wrote a book on daniel 9 and came upwith the same conclusion. Your modern futurist interpretation was actually developed by the catholic church suring the counterreformation of the 16th century. It was then further developed by Darby and Schofield but this video represents the original protestant understanding. Why have a gap? Makes no logical sense.

@chief270202

8 ай бұрын

@bwevemuzk are you aware of the 2nd call to rebuild Jerusalem in 1539 by the Ottoman ruler Soluimon I? If you add 490 years, you get 2029. Minus 7 years you get 2022. In 2022 Pope Frances signed a 7 year climate covanant with many leaders and religious leaders of the world called Laudato Si. So no, I am not going by what any past people taught. The 70th week could not come to pass until after the fig tree generation was back in the land. Neither can any Revelation prophecy. The last 7 years of the 6000 years the planet has been in existance will close with Daniel's 70th week, also known as the 7 years of tribulation. 1260 days of Tribulation, 1260 days of Great Tribulation, and 75 days of Wrath that will be the first 75 days of the Millennial reign. The rapture will happen on the last day of Great Tribulation, at the final Trump, which is the 7th Trumpet Judgement Revelation 11:18, which will be on the Feast of Trumpets 2030. Does that clear thing up any?

@keepitrealoriginal

8 ай бұрын

​@@bwevemuzkgap is for the gentiles

Yes, it appears that Daniel 9 culminates in the destruction of the Temple in AD70, but I don't think Jesus is asking us to go to Daniel 9 for our understanding but to Daniel 12:11 where it says, "From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and `the abomination that causes desolation` is set up, there will be 1,290 days". As a Catholic I know that the Sacrifice of the Mass is a "daily sacrifice"? And just as God has shown me personally (in a dream), I understand `the abomination that causes desolation` as the epiphany of "the dragon" (who will soon be hurled down to earth from out of the heavenly realms), seated "in the holy place ...in Jerusalem". We need to go to 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 and to the Book of Revelation 12:7-17 & 13:1-18 to understand what awaits us, that is to say, a satanic-led Apostasy of 1,260 days/42 months, days which Jesus describes as "days of distress unequalled from the beginning of the world and never to be equalled again" Mk 13:18

If it is wrong, why has God allowed that to happen? After all, it is His word - Doesn't He have a stake in it's accuracy?

I've heard before some christians argue that prophecies of the scriptures to be taken from an Israely reference, and not from non Israely or european view of the world. Very elucidating amidst so many confusing interpretations. Thank you!

@linegrant4605

8 ай бұрын

The Bible goes in hand with history 💯🙏

@sunmoonstars8471

8 ай бұрын

Yes, when translators used Roman timekeeping in the bible, it fulfilled Daniel 7:25. It is even more confusing when you find out that BC/AD was invented by Rome hundreds of years after the Cross. All biblical time from Genesis to Revelation is based upon the Creator's perfect timekeeping system. Time was observed by the eyes. The 12 major constellations tell us what month we are living in. Virgo is always centered overhead on the night of the full moon on the night of Passover on the 14th of the 1st biblical month in the spring. Even Adventists are in the dark about biblical timekeeping, but before the Church was formed, the early Advents knew the 7th biblical month was in the fall, not July.

@BertGraef

8 ай бұрын

@@sunmoonstars8471 The Talmudists altered thier calendar by 168 years, after the fall of the temple. To destroy the Mesaianic prophecies of Daniel. So any Christian who follows that calendar for anythng biblical is as terribly deceived as the Jews are.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@BertGraef you're not telling the truth!

According to you counting Jesus died at age 30 instead of 33, since according to your reasoning Jesus would have started His ministry at 27. Can you explain this you?

I don't understand all the hullabaloo in the comments. What the Bible says is as written in this perspective, not to mention the huge gap that this whole discussion fills! Be blessed.

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

Here is how this works.. Neh 2:1 And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king. From the month of Nisan unto Nisan, point A unto point B, exactly. ...from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build **Jerusalem** unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks..= 7 and 62 = From Nehemiah 2, 445bc subtract 483 converted to days = 173880 DAYS... MARCH 14 445bc to APRIL 6th 32 ad. Nisan 10 The triumphal entry In Luke 19

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

@@carlcizek2189 you're closer right in the uploader but you still got the wrong starting date!

Good presentation for a short one and scope. However, it's not just evangelicals and dispensationalist Christians who are reinterpreting this passage. For at least the last 10 years there have been a growing number of Jewish rabbis discrediting Daniel 9 as having anything to do with the Messiah or Jesus of the 1st century all together. Their arguments are more focussed on the words of the Hebrew text and more compelling than what the dispensationalists present. I would like to see Shawn Boonstra and other Christian apologists take on these arguments to show how the context of Daniel 9 is about the first advent of Christ as opposed to the Jerusalem temple. You need to hear the arguments of these Jewish rabbis know what you are up against. Now I see more clearly the attack that is going to be waged upon God's people "And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days." Mark 13:20

Take note: During the time of Christ Jesus' ministry on Earth (1st Cent. A.D.), Prophet John the Baptist has the "SPIRIT of Elijah," according to the Bible, but not Prophet Elijah himself... just like Prophet Elisha got the Power of Elijah after he was taken by God through the chariot of fire, but not Prophet Elijah himself... At the End Times/Last Days/Aweson Dreadful Day, Prophet Malachi prophesied that God would send back Prophet Elijah himself (Body, Soul, Spirit, and Power that comes from God) to be one of God's WITNESSES (one of the 2 OLIVE Tress/2 Candlestands) according to Revelation 11... Facts and Truth, Biblically speaking... Amen and Amen...

I subscribed,plain logical and not pushing lies.question:did not jesus say " i will shorten those days for my elects sake lest no flesh be saved,even my elect may be decieved" forgive my paraphrasing.the only reference to a specific time frame in revelations 9 ,5 mos( touch not my anointed)..in your opinion is this in reference to a singular event or is it a nod to what christ said about short 28:30 ening the days.i understand on a individual level when you are delivered up you shall suffer no more than 10 days,this is scripture most miss all together ,it is in the gospels along with luke stating every hair on your head is counted and how much more precious to God you are than a sparrow that he sees fall,he misses nothing.

4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The teaching that the Antichrist will come in the future is not a modern understanding. Irenaeus, a 2nd century Christian who learned from Polycarp, a disciple of John, wrote about this in Against Heresies Book 5: Chapter 25 1. "And not only by the particulars already mentioned, but also by means of the events which shall occur in the time of Antichrist is it shown that he, being an apostate and a robber, is anxious to be adored as God; and that, although a mere slave, he wishes himself to be proclaimed as a king. For he (Antichrist) being endued with all the power of the devil, shall come, not as a righteous king, nor as a legitimate king, [i.e., one] in subjection to God, but an impious, unjust, and lawless one...4. "The Lord also spoke as follows to those who did not believe in Him: "I have come in my Father's name, and ye have not received Me: when another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive," calling Antichrist "the other," because he is alienated from the Lord...Chapter 30:4 "But when this Antichrist shall have devastated all things in this world, he will reign for three years and six months, and sit in the temple at Jerusalem; and then the Lord will come from heaven in the clouds, in the glory of the Father, sending this man and those who follow him into the lake of fire; but bringing in for the righteous the times of the kingdom, that is, the rest, the hallowed seventh day; and restoring to Abraham the promised inheritance, in which kingdom the Lord declared, that "many coming from the east and from the west should sit down with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob." These things Irenaeus wrote in the 2nd century AD. You can find his writings at earlychristianwritings(dot)com

The narrator open the video stating this passage is the most misunderstood of the bible. Then at 24:32 he shows a time line demonstrating he is misunderstanding the passage Please note verse 26… At 24:32, The narrator has the cutting off of messiah after the 7 weeks then after the 62 and after 3.5, a total of 486.5 years. Thats not what Daniels says. It says after the 483. Dan 9:26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,

@thomasgrans3303

8 ай бұрын

@carlcizek2189 But it continues in 9:27 "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease". Here it says in the middle of the week.

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

@@thomasgrans3303 Three things are described after the 483.. Dan 9:26 shall Messiah be cut off, …..destroy the city and the sanctuary, unto the end of the ***war*** ( 70ad) desolations are determined. Aka Diaspora… All before verse 27 starts…

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

@@thomasgrans3303 Original Hebrew didn’t have chapter or verse breaks..the “He” is not in the original. It was added because the breaks were added…the “He” in verse 27 is a reference to the last personal pronoun in ver 26. Dan 9:26 “”the prince that shall come”” shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; ***and the end thereof shall be with a flood, ***and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Dan 9:27 ***And (he) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week.

@thomasgrans3303

8 ай бұрын

@@carlcizek2189 I have never heard he was added but however a bibletranslater shall catch the spiritual meaning of a text becaurse theres so big differenses between languages so it would be unreadable otherwise. I see two things going on in the 2 verses. Lets take KJB. 1. "And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off but not for himself, and he (Jesus) shall confirm the covenant with many for one week and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" "and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate even until the consummation and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." 2. And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary and the end thereof shall be with a flood and unto the end of the war desolations are determined, 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city to finish the transgression (rebellion). Seal up vision and prophesy. Luke 21:20 "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then recognize that her desolation is near. The people of the prince is of course the romans and the prince who was the commander of the army was Titus who was son of the emperor of Rome and he later became emeperor himself so calling him prince is not wrong. We have to understand the big picture first before looking into all details. We have to recognise that a limited time was determend over Daniels people which was stretched passed the 490 years but not specified. The town was determined to be desolite and God himself ended the offering service by force by allowing the romans to destroy Jerusalem. Jesus of course by the new covenant ended the law by fulfilling it and by the grace we now gets the law in our hearts when rescieving Jesus. But the majority of the jews rejected him so the offering continued. They even cursed them self and said let his blood come over us and our children. Becaurse the time was limited it had to come to an end. That end was AD 70 as we know now. Jesus warned them about it and told them Jerusalem will be desolit. It did put an end of the rebellion against Rome and fulfilled the prophesies about spreading the jews all over the world in all countrys. This is a blueprint of what God did. Satan will copy this in the tribulation by sending his "son" to sit in the temple and to force or command the offering to stop just a short while before but thats not in Daniel 9 but its similar.

@carlcizek2189

8 ай бұрын

@@thomasgrans3303 Revelation 6 through 19 is Daniel 9:27…

When Jesus spoke of the abomination of desolation it was in answer to his disciples asking him what would be the signs of His coming and establishing of His kingdom. And Paul spoke of the abomination of desolation being followed by Jesus destroying the Antichrist with the brightness of his coming which would also entail the moon turning to blood the sun not giving light and the stars falling from the skies. He would gather His elect and appear in the air. None of these things happened in 70 A.D.

@blustarmarketinsights6914

6 ай бұрын

If you understand what truly occurred in those days yes the symbolism fits perfectly

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

@@blustarmarketinsights6914 except it didn't happen yet!

@blustarmarketinsights6914

5 ай бұрын

You are basing your eschatology on Darbyism or better yet futurism/dispensationalism, a system created in the early 1800's that is filled with so much nonsense it isn't even funny. The two methods of interpretation up into that time were Historicism and Allegory. It happened in 70 AD as foretold in Matthew 24 and Luke 21. The sun and moon turning dark and red is symbolism for divine judgment on Judah, the stars represent the 12 tribes of Israel. This symbolism was used in the Old Testament more than once. When Jesus sat at the right hand of the Father, He in effect became God, judge and ruler over the earth, taking the Father's place. There is no mention of an anti-Christ anywhere in Thessalonians 1 or 2. He was called the man of sin who sat in the temple calling himself God, which by Josephus' account occurred during the Jewish rebellion (apostasia) of 66/70 AD. Context, Symbolism, Literary Devices all a part of the Hebrew way of conveying prophecy. During the Jewish-Roman War (66/70 AD), there were two Zealot leaders who took their place in the temple: [1] The first one made the temple, including the inner court, his headquarters for about 3.5 years (from the fall of AD 66 until April AD 70). He was killed (destroyed, slayed by the brightness of His coming) in Jerusalem in AD 70. That was Eleazar ben Simon. [2] The second one took over the inner court about five months before the temple was destroyed, precisely when the Roman general, Titus, arrived and began his siege against Jerusalem (from April - August AD 70). He was captured, taken to Rome, and sentenced to life in prison. That was John Levi of Gischala. John Levi was not killed or destroyed, leaving Eleazar ben Simon as the obvious man of sin Paul was referring to in 2nd Thessalonians; Top Two Candidates for the Man of Lawlessness In this passage, Paul specifically stated that the man of lawlessness was one who: [1] “opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God” (verse 4); [2] “the Lord will consume with the breath (spirit) of His mouth (prophecy) and destroy with the brightness of His coming (God often used Gentile nations in order to bring judgment on His people) [vs 8]” Jesus' coming is seen in Daniel 7 as coming before the Father to receive His Kingdom). In Matthew 26:64: “You have said so,” Jesus replied. “But I say to all of you: From now on you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven."@@JamieElison

It's an interesting theory, I have heard lots of theories in my day though.

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Weren't the sabbaths that were missed the agricultural sabbaths that they were to observer every seventh year and not the 7th day of the week sabbath?

@woodsail40

5 ай бұрын

Yes, I agree. The week of 6 working days is a picture of 6 working years of planting and harvesting. The 7th day of the week is the 7th Day Sabbath of Rest when man is asked not to do the things he did during the work week. In Lev. chapter 25 the week cycle set up the 6 working years of panting and harvest and the 7th year is a Land Rest Sabbath when nothing was to be planted or harvested. The LORD did a double blessing on the 6th year of harvest that carried them over the Land Rest. As we see in prophecy a day in prophecy can be applied to 1,000 years. Again the week cycle is a model pointing to a prophetic time line. Gen. 6:3 God said he would strive with man''s sins for 120 years. What is hidden out of sight is these 120 years are prophetic. What God was saying He would strive with man's sins for 120 X 50 Jubilee cycles = 6,000 years and then the end would come and man would begin a Sabbath Rest from sin after the Messiah/Jesus returns.

The debate continues. Which decree is the starting point? Do you use a 365 day solar year or a prophetic 360 day lunar year as in Revelation? Now is the literary device in Daniel 9:26.27 parallelism of A B A` B` or inclusion of A-Messiah comes and cut off, B-people of future prince destroy Jerusalem in 70 AD, B` the people`s prince comes after the destroyed city to set up a 7 year covenant and breaks at the half point by ceasing sacrifice. A` the decreed end of the desolater is poured out completing the 70 week prophecy with a gap between the cut off of Messiah and the future 7 year covenant. Perception is hard to change once it has solidified by connecting the dots of one`s interpretation. One must consider Paul`s warning of the man of sin of Daniel declaring himself a god in the temple. And John in Revelation using the 3 1/2 years of Daniel as still future that did not end with Steven`s death. We will see how history unfolds with the rebirth of Israel and the potential confirmation of a covenant and the restoration of temple sacrifices. May we stay awake looking for our Lord`s return.

And furthermore, I believe that time warping would be naturally accompanied by catastrophic energy release/atmospheric phenomena in order to balance E=mc², which suddenly makes perfect sense of those "ridiculous and mythical" stories of Elijah, Moses, Joshua, ect ect.

@Kay-tc3go

8 ай бұрын

What!??!

@lindaschipansky4429

8 ай бұрын

Huh?

@johnl.6731

3 ай бұрын

​@@lindaschipansky4429 @Kay-tc3go I wouldn't worry about it. "They may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but not understanding."

@lindaschipansky4429

3 ай бұрын

@@johnl.6731 Gotcha

Although this video is going along with the accepted account of Daniel 9:24-27, it does not mean it's right. Daniel wanted to know when the Seventy Years of Jeremiah 29:10, would end and this is what Gabriel revealed to him. Ezra 1:1, confirms Cyrus as the one who freed the Jews. Daniel's Seventy Weeks Prophesy, as it is known, is a Calculation of Numbers. When calculated, the answer gives a time of 483 years, with no beginning or ending years, leaving it open for interpretation, which is what has been presented, an interpretation. If we examine the Hebrew/Aramaic Script, we find that the first two words of Daniel 9:24, are identical! שבעים שבעים SHaBA(y)YaM SHaBA(y)YaM which should be translated as 'SEVENTY SEVENTY', but because of Masoretic Vowel Pointing, introduced into the text around 600/700 AD, one 'Seventy' is translated as 'Weeks'. The Masoretic Text, as it is known, had introduced the 'Tradition' of 'Weeks' into the translation of the text, hence the - Seventy 'Weeks' instead of 'Seventy Seventy' indicating TWO CALCULATIONS EACH BEGINNING WITH 'SEVENTY'. So! if we follow the Hebrew Text with this in mind, we have the following translation: Daniel 9:25 THE FIRST CALCULATION know therefore and understand that from the going forth to the word (Decree) to restore and build Jerusalem, Seventy Seven (not Seven Weeks). 70x7=490 plus 7x7=49 Total= 539 BC the year of the Cyrus Decree. THE SECOND CALCULATION Until - Messiah the Prince, Seventy Sixty and Two (not Sixty Two Weeks). 70x7=490 minus 62x7=434 Total= 56 BC the year of the Birth of Messiah the Prince. This was during the Reign of Herod Antipater the Idumaean who died in 43 BC. He was the father of Herod the Great. After Antipaters death the boy, now aged 12 and in his 13th year, returned home to Nazareth from Egypt with his parents via Jerusalem, Matthew 2, Luke 2. 56 BC minus 43 BC = 13th year. To confirm that this is correct, if we take 56 from 539 we have '483 years' shown previously, but we now have confirmed 'the year of the Cyrus Decree' and 'the year of the Birth of the Messiah'. There are supporting scriptures to show that this should be considered. The rest of Daniel 9:26-27, is also revealing but just as controversial, if your interested? May you be blessed.

@johnl.6731

3 ай бұрын

This is an intriguing proposal. However, Cyrus' decree doesn't fulfill Daniel 9:25. "So you are to know and discern that from the issuing of a decree to restore and rebuild Jerusalem...," means that the triggering decree must grant some civil provision. Of the three Medo-Persian decrees concerning Jewish repatriation (537 B.C. by Cyrus [Ezra 1:1-4], 520 B.C. by Darius I [Ezra 6:1-12], & 457 B.C. by Artaxerxes [7:11-26]), only the third concerns more than just Jerusalem's temple, most notably observed in Ezra 7:25.

An important reason why many Christians view the last seven years of Daniel 9's prophecy as yet future is precisely because of how Jesus himself applies it. This teacher handles Daniel 9 like many preterists do and attempts to align it with the destruction of the temple in 70AD. Jesus however tells His disciples in Matthew 24 that when they (Israel) see the "abomination of desolation" that they are to flee to the mountains in all haste, for then there will be tribulation unlike anything that had ever occurred previously, or will ever occur again in all the world (see Matthew 24:15-22). You cannot say this of 70AD, for as many Jews as were killed by the Romans at that time, far worse things took place in World War II when six million Jews were brutally treated and murdered. This dwarfs the number of Jews believed killed in 70AD. So clearly, 70AD was not the worse tribulation that the Jews would ever face and it was not global in scope, nor did the other signs Jesus refers to, including His return, take place at that time, as recorded in the remainder of Matthew 24. The events of 70AD could not therefore fulfill Jesus' own words from verse 15 on in Matthew's gospel. The reason for adopting a future position therefore, in which anti-Christ makes a covenant with many, is not to follow some tradition or sub-cultural view within Christendom as suggested, but because of what the text actually says.

@Stand_4_Christ

8 ай бұрын

Absolutely well said!

@blustarmarketinsights6914

6 ай бұрын

Jesus used a common hyperbolic idiomatic phrase that is actually used in the Old Testament. Go look

11:42 starts explaining what you came to find out. 21:54 when I read Math 32v38 "Behold, your house is left to you DESOLATE." I knew what the Abomination of desolation was. The Abomination is the jews who rejected Jesus [who he called sons of the devil] so we don't need to wait for Titus to invade the temple.

@JamieElison

5 ай бұрын

So they rejected him. In Daniel 8:13 Daniel 9:27 Daniel 11:31 and Daniel 12 11. Is what you're saying...really ...try to show me how that works!

@charlesco7413

5 ай бұрын

@JamieElison Dan 8.13 Then I heard a holy one(A) speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled(B)-the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot(C) of the Lord’s people?” this is a VISION so it is in code. What if it was written like this: Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for *JESUS TO BE AMOUNG US* -the vision concerning the daily *JESUS ON THE CROSS,* the rebellion from *JESUS'S TEACHINGS* that causes desolation & *DISTRUCTION OF THE TEMPLE,* the surrender of the sanctuary *TO THE ROMANS* and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people *BY THE GENTILES UNTIL 1948?* Dan 9.27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ *(parable of the figtree)* In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering *(JESUS IS THIS SACRIFICE)* . And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed(A) is poured out on him.” *(coded message about the Jews making the temple desolate) 【without God's Presence 】by rejecting him.* Dan 11.31 “His armed forces *(ROME)* will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. *( Destroy the Temple)* Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation. *(God was not in the Temple nor in Jerusalem). [why is the Temple called a Fortress?] Because it was part of the Wall protecting them from Titus and Rome.* 11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice(A) is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation(B) is set up, there will be 1,290 days.(C) *(it is known history that it took 3 and a half years for Rome to besiege and to destroy Jerusalem.)* started in September the new year for jews [in 66 to September of 67 (1year)]... [67 to 68 (2)]... [68 to 69 (3)] ... [69 September to Tish ba Av of March 70ad] 1/2 a year right before Passover in April.

Note God doesn't use the Gregorian calendar so interpretation must be in line with Daniels time frames and was opened up having been sealed until Jesus Christ recieved the book of Revelation from God his Father once he had ascended into heaven

Not bad, you almost got it right, but your start date is wrong. Artaxerxes' decree was in 458 BC not 457. Christ was present 483 years later, in the spring of AD 26; and in the middle of the 70th week he brought sacrifice to an end (in God's sight) by offering himself as the Scapegoat, in the autumn of AD 29, on the Day of Atonement. . . This was in the 15th year of Tiberius Caesar. 3½ years later, Christ's sacrifice was consummated on the cross, in the spring of AD 33. The Roman war against the Jews was fought from the spring of AD 66 to the spring of AD 73, exactly 40 years after Daniel's 70th week. The last Day of Atonement held at the Temple was in the autumn of AD 69, this was exactly 40 years after Christ's baptism. Still, you didn't stick 2 000 years in there, where it doesn't belong, so at least you got that bit right.

@jimbob1644

5 ай бұрын

Except what you said is not the truth!