The point of experimental is to not have to pay certified airplane prices.

@steve2736

2 ай бұрын

Now lets not let logic get in the way.

Congratulations I’m proud of you. Been watching you from day one

Mike, thank you for all the information you provided. I'm in the market for a light sports plane, and you and Dan Johnson are answering many of my questions. The hardest part is deciding on a brand/model. There are so many well-built sports planes!

Brother 🙌🏼 been missing these type of videos all the best 🏆🥇🛫🛩️🇺🇸

I love this plane! I hope you got some video while flying!

Great Video as always Mike. Love your channel. Would love to see you demo this plane in flight and compare it to the JMB VL3.

love the side stick.

Gorgeous airplane priced right for what you get

Nice work Mike! 😃

Nice plane. It’s an eye catcher.

What a great video! I love this plane. Wow. I’m nearly ready to solo and am hoping to be able to buy a plane in the future. 180 kts cruise speed and 8 gal per hour is fantastic! Have a great day!

Beautiful plane

Beautiful plane!!!!

Damnnn, this is my new dream plane

Great video!!!

Nice plane!!

Looks great! waiting for the flying test video.

Looks appealing.

Keep the leans clean, thanks for sharing

Love the design and the prop - efficient and looks gorgeous. As a bigger guy, I also really like the spacious cabin.

Love the bubble like canopy with sides bulging out for superb visibility!

@mustardseedsociety

4 ай бұрын

Bubble canopies are a very BAD idea and here's why - if you have to put it in a field you have about a 40% chance of flip over. Once that happens, you're trapped. It's happened to many a pilot. Charlie Hillard in his Sea Fury back in the 90's was in taxi on the runway during an airshow, he hits the brakes and it flips over. The top of the vertical sunk into soft sandy soil and with the aircraft upside down, the bubble canopy got crushed and killed mister Hillard. And recently an aerobatic pilot in a canopy aircraft had to do a forced landing in a "corn" field and you guessed it - he flipped over - the whole thing on camera and guess what ?? Pilot was trapped, hanging upside down and no way to get out. Thankfully the airplane never caught on fire. He called on his cell phone and about 10 minutes later people came and got him out - but it wasn't easy. So what's the moral of this story ?? Fly bubble canopied aircraft at your own risk.

@motionsic

4 ай бұрын

@@mustardseedsociety Thanks for the detailed warning. Now I know the risks.

The left-handed sidestick is easier to get used to than you think. It only took me a few minutes to get used to it, now it's second nature.

Congrats on your flight school!

I’ll trade my Stingsport for it, I have been following this one WOW love TLs detail, great plane! Love the color, would probably have to sell my Lakehouse also to afford it, The price point it’s just a little too crazy for me, i’ll stick with my sting it’s been very faithful. By the way, you’ve got a great job mojo

LSA's and ultralights have gone into absolutely insane price regions lastly... (in Europe this plane fits into the 600kg ultralight category). Not so long ago, a VL3 could be bought for 130k€ (with RG), nowadays, it starts at around 240k, with a steep curve upwards depending on painting and options (engine, avionics,...), up to the 400k mark... this is just insane for a 2-seater !!! GA aircrafts are indeed more costly in operation and maintenance, but it's a pity that it has now become sometimes cheaper to fly GA than to fly LSA... :(

nice bird :))),,, looks gold color :))

you make wanna get into Debt! 😂. Great video.👍🏼

The only few times i ever flew any aircraft was in my dreams. Dreams i so much enjoyed that i broke my heart when i woke up to realise it was all a dream. I love to fly choppers a lot too

When does occurred to me you really love this........"Guys......look at this lush interior here."😊

Hi Mike, awesome video. I recently purchased a new TL Carbon Sting S4 iS after your review. Very grateful for your channel. Thanks for sharing.

Add that price, and with the other available planes out there, I would think you could get one by 5 o’clock.

In my next life I will own and fly this plane !

Mike, Does the seat lean back? Would be nice on cross country. Multiple USB ports? Paint included? Do I travel to the Czech Republic to do my 51%? Really like the plane, price point and bit high for my thinking though. Enjoy your channel

Coming to LZU, eh, Mike? I've always loved your sling videos (even though you're selling yours). Have you started hiring CFIs? I'll be one in a month and I've done my training out of FTY and RYY. Anyway, keep up the great content!

@mojogrip

4 ай бұрын

Yes please send your resume to mike@lookupflightacademy.com

@MG - With those four-blades on that long TBM-like nose, compound curves and wide stance/trailing-link mains - no doubt: sex on the tarmac. So, let's run the numbers, how does it compare to a used Cyrus, and what's the stall/slow flight characteristics? And will it be available with the Turbo (like ur Sling had)? When are u going to take it up for a day of real world testing/xcountry flying?

Very nice. Happy blk history month. #blkpowermatters!!!!! #salute my gud brotha!!!!!!

With a lower price and a cruise of ~200 knots I think the Risen 915SV is a better option.

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

Risen or much nicer Czech made VL3.

@backcountyrpilot

4 ай бұрын

@@DzordzikkThe VL3 looks killer, but it is pretty snug in the cockpit. I sat in one oat OSH KOSH 2021.

@ARyanCoke

4 ай бұрын

They gotta start bringing down the price of aircraft. This is getting stupid

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

@@backcountyrpilot They have actually snother type of seat for taller pilots, with this seat it is ok. I´m 184cm tall and I´m ok and flight characteristics of VL3 are much better than this plane, tested by myself.

@jasonsanford6851

4 ай бұрын

I'll take the risen SV any day:-)

Get a chance do a vid on Comp Air 6 kit plane

What are the stall speeds?

Mojo! Long time subscriber love your content. May sound random but have you ever been checked out for a deviated septum?

@mojogrip

4 ай бұрын

Nope but def will look into it

Wow. And it is fairly affordable. Will they be selling this in Europe?

Any word on a 4 seat version?

This plane and the JMB seem to be a real tough sale @ 400k.

Tail seems small but it’s beautiful

Beautiful plane. I will still take the VL3 over this any day. Thats just my opinion after flying the VL3 915. The side stick kills it for me on this one. I do not like a side stick but I am old school.

🇯🇲 it's very expensive for a two seater 🤷🏾‍♂️ but it's a nice looking plane

This is extremely impressive, especially the panel and creature comforts! For the price though, you can get almost everything and more with a Risen Superveloce.

@jasonsanford6851

4 ай бұрын

And a way faster cruise speed! with the 915is instead of the 916is...

@JabariHunt

4 ай бұрын

​@@jasonsanford6851I know, I'm wondering if Porto will redesign the wing again for the 916 or just do a straight swap. Either way, I'm looking forward to it!

@jasonsanford6851

4 ай бұрын

@@JabariHuntI bet they stay with the same setup for the 916... They did quite a bit of clipping for only 30 more horse power and it did wonders for the plane!:-) I also bet that they hold off on introducing the 916is unless customers are screaming for it:-) They did regain the FAI record again a year or so ago and that was with the 914 Turbo! I flew a couple of years ago with Alberto and this plane was amazing!!! If he can create a 4 place with the same aerodynamics... well he'll own America🙂

@JabariHunt

4 ай бұрын

@@jasonsanford6851 That would be what the Panthera could have been!

Takeoff distance landing distance stall speed stall characteristics spin behaviour all at minimum and maximum weight ? These air plane reviews not going deeper than the cabin width interior colours the standard glass panels got boring and without telling anything about the plane itself as a plane.

Thinking of selling my Bristell when Mosaic is official. Would love to see an in depth flying review. Rick

@Mobev1

4 ай бұрын

So will everyone else. I’d sell it now. 2 reasons, you’ll be competing with better planes with 2 seats for storage and you’ll be heading into a bad market that without a doubt is in the way. I’m worth 22 million and have a high financial IQ. I expect to see your plane for sale asap.

@user-bb3ze2bp2u

4 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/amWkw7ySm8zPdZc.html

I would go with a Risen for the $ and speed!

❤🤘

What did you review exactly?

Mike Iam in Gwinnett County how do I get in contact?

How can you compare this to a 4-seat Cirrus?

400k does it have A/C?

Good video, nice plane but price is out of whack. Even if it was part 23 certified which I assume it isn't. Risen 915 I would choose any day of the weak over the Sparker and twice on Sunday. Cheaper, faster, even better looking, better fuel economy and much longer range.

@EJWash57

4 ай бұрын

"EXPERIMENTAL" placard on full display on the right side interior, just below the canopy rail.

Spinner should be matching copper color. My only criticism !!

What is the useful load? It is not an LSA so hopefully it it a better than some of the competitors.

@user-bb3ze2bp2u

4 ай бұрын

Hi David, useful load is 650-750pounds

Hi Mike, love your videos. I looked at the detailed specs. Full fuel payload is decent. They have listed luggage capacity as 40 lbs., that is good for a couple of duffle bags! For an optioned out plane costing north of $400K, what kind of mission is this craft made for? Thanks.

@mauriceevans6546

4 ай бұрын

It is a respectable cross country plane. Going to the bahamas, etc...

@mojogrip

4 ай бұрын

Luggage capacity is 75lbs

@bizpixvegas7651

4 ай бұрын

@@mauriceevans6546 From where... and over open water with one engine?!

@mauriceevans6546

4 ай бұрын

@bizpixvegas7651 single engine planes cross the Atlantic far more than you know. Twin engine aircraft have a very very high death rate. Look it up! These planes are very capable of flying at higher altitudes and aircraft like the sling 2 and 4 have flown from south Africa to oshkosh several times in the last few years. The shark has flown around the world with a teenager solo. Single engine aircraft get ferried across the Atlantic all the time without incident.

@bizpixvegas7651

4 ай бұрын

@@mauriceevans6546 Good to know. I am a total novice and do not know that stats. Just what I had heard anecdotally that you need redundancy when going over long stretches of water.

If the price point is the same as Bristell, why choose a new uninsurable plane like this?

good day. please price. thanks.

I don't ride or fly bubble canopied aircraft after watching a video {recent} of an airshow pilot in a bubble canopy aircraft had to force land in a "corn" field. The aircraft flipped over and part of the load was on the bubble canopy and the pilot could not open it, thus making him trapped. He called for help, and thankfully the aircraft did not catch on fire - but he's hanging upside down trapped - bout 10 minutes later people came and got him out. But it was not easy getting him out. Egress is one of the top things I look at in evaluating an aircraft. One reason I favor high wing aircraft because if you flip, the wing is on the bottom and much easier to escape. I mean heck, it's bad enough you're hanging upside down, but to hang upside down AND deal with a wing on top of you is not a good situation. Then what if you got kids or a disabled person as a passenger ?? How you going to get them out ?? After all, as PIC, it's YOUR responsibility to get your passengers out.

What?> Mike, you didn't take us up in it?

I’m kind of old I don’t like the side sticks especially I gotta use my left hand. I prefer a yoke that kind of throws aircraft out the window.

@azcoyote007

4 ай бұрын

Montaer MC4 for you.

@abel4776

4 ай бұрын

What hand grabs the yoke and which hand grabs the throttle 75% of the time?

Bristell is wider at 51”

Numbers N24TL, I am buying a 1981 Cessna 172 with N24LT. Don't get any closer to the same tail numbers.

It is interesting how so many "new" plane designs look so much like a Lancair!!!!!

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

It is easy, because when you want to fly fast and efficently, aerodynamics is that thing that you need to respect about plane shape etc.

@mikesmicroshop4385

4 ай бұрын

@@Dzordzikk Or everyone is being a little disingenuous in claiming that they are designing something new and not giving credit where it is due because they may be infringing on someone else's designs! There are several ways to design an aerodynamic aircraft as is evidenced by the hundreds of different high-performance designs! I still find it a little dishonest that so many seem to be copying Lancair!

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

@@mikesmicroshop4385 Sparker isn't copy of Lancair, it looks very different man.

@mikesmicroshop4385

4 ай бұрын

@@Dzordzikk I didn't say it was a copy! I said that they are all borrowing from Lancair and acting like they have something new!

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

Ok, but pilots are very conservative and don't trust to new designs, especially when it is very different and something totally new.

Left hand yolk, right hand throttle

420.000 $ for this plane... it's too expensive!

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

Yes, it is. VL3 or Risen is for less and both are better choice.

@cessna177flyer3

4 ай бұрын

Check out the price for a new Cessna 172…

But what about the pilot license requirement??

@mojogrip

4 ай бұрын

You need a private pilot license and complex endorsement

Another great video, thank you

moooo....pleaaase test once the VELOCITY...! and, why the lights dont have pushers ? quiter, much faster, less consumption, we would love to heare your expertise

So I rather hear the people who know the plane talk and knows all the facts and flys it

Was really hoping to see this bird fly the video was nice but lacking :(

Nice plane but 400k+??? Wow, can get a Mooney Acclaim in that price range and go much faster and higher.

Hi, most of Czech or Slovak made airplanes are made with attention to details and are very nice and flies very well. VL3, Bristell, Shark and many others. But I personally, don´t like flying characteristics of Sparker. I have and demo flight in it and I don´t like it so much. VL3 is much better for me and Bristell too.

@user-bb3ze2bp2u

4 ай бұрын

I do not recall seing you in TL factory and having demoflight in our Sparker

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

@@user-bb3ze2bp2u Hi Barbora Hubená, this is because I was test it previous year and not on factory airport. Sparker is a nice ultralight, but I don´t like how it flies and don´t like a few things on it, especially feeling in stick. Nothing against TL, but it is my opinion about that plane with comparison against my test flights in other ultralights. BTW: I have on my desktop photo of Stream as background ...

@abel4776

4 ай бұрын

@@Dzordzikk What specifically was the issue? Stick? Sensitivity? Too light?

@Dzordzikk

4 ай бұрын

@@abel4776 Hard to explain, there is more this that I dont like and is hard to explain. About stick, it is too tight, you must use relatively high force to move with it and it forces in it are still same if you fly slow or fast, which isnt good and I personally dont feel plane in hand if you understand me. Forces may grow up with speed, in all ultralights I tested it is like this, in Sparker not. And I dont like very long start on grass rwy with 912 in comparison with other ultralights. I think that wing is optimized for fast flight and havent high lift on slow speed,so it isnt good for short rwy. Demo pilot dont look much comfortly when may show slow speed chsracteristics and I dont like very little level of warrning before stall. It is plane with wide cockpit, extremelly big baggage space but I dont like how it flies. That all. Nothing against manufacturer, against guality or so, but... Every pilot need to test more planes before he select best one for himself.

@abel4776

4 ай бұрын

@@Dzordzikk Thanks for your input.

Retracts...good! No gear doors...not good! Why?

@user-bb3ze2bp2u

4 ай бұрын

coming soon (TL sport aircraft factory)

Much better than the Dark Aero, since that plane bends the instrument wiring bundle every time you open the canopy.

Lancair 235 anyone?

This plane was created with mosaic in mind. Mosaic is designed to allow for these types of aircraft. I am looking to get one when the final rule is published late 2024 or early 2025.

@abel4776

4 ай бұрын

4-seater and increased payload would have been nice, though. Nonetheless, this one is respectable. Modern suite, modern engine, carbon fiber, retracts, parachute, experimental for owner modifications at his/her liking, etc.

Entry price too high given the experimental nature of it.

Good looking plane, but price point way out of reality.

It's pretty, but too expensive. A lot of this automotive technology that's being adapted for airplanes is kinda like going backwards in a fancy way. Water cooled engines went out in WWII. Why do we want them back? One more system that needs maintenance. And antifreeze. Electronics that depend on the electrical system to operate the engine. They don't make tow trucks for airplanes. I like magnetos that still run with no connection to battery or alternator. I'm amazed at the number of flight instructors who don't know that mags are self-contained, stand-alone complete ignition systems independent of the electric system. With magnetos the engine will keep running with no battery or alternator at all. The engine can even be hand-propped to start, if you know what you're doing.

@abel4776

4 ай бұрын

So you rather Lycontinentals over Rotax/ULPower/Viking/Turbotech?

@rescue270

4 ай бұрын

@@abel4776 Yep. They are simpler and therefore more reliable, but even they are not infallable. A geared, liquid-cooled, electronically managed turbodiesel engine turning at 4500 rpm is going to be more expensive, cost more to maintain and repair, require more maintenance, and will not last as long as a Continental O-470. I don't care how old the technology may be, they're built like tanks and everything about them has been designed from the beginning to be aircraft engines with durability and safety as the main focus, rather than economy. They were never high-strung sportscar engines. They are more like high performance tractor engines. GenAv R&D is going the wrong direction. The very thought of flying with a fuel rail with 90 psi fuel waiting spring a leak and spray fuel everywhere is unsettling for me.

400k? So you’re saying there’s a chance

i love this plane, but it's $320,000.00. not many can afford one.

Jmb vl3

Who has $400K+ for all of these newer planes today...seriously? What's the point and how does one justify this? The engine alone is $43K and nobody seems to care! What am I missing?

@abel4776

4 ай бұрын

I bet a French Turbotech will be less!

The price... 😐

@drewfliesbikes

4 ай бұрын

1/4-1/3 the price of a Cirrus 🤷‍♂

@tomi6261

4 ай бұрын

@@drewfliesbikes Yes, and they are overpriced as well. My point is ALL new aircraft are way overpriced. While Government safety regulations are DEFINITELY needed, they go so overboard and make things so difficult for new manufacturers, that it is impossible to get new tech in to the mainstream for an affordable price. Think about cars for a moment - You can buy a brand new Ford Escape for under $30k, a new Mercedes E-Class for $75k, a new Range Rover for $150k or a new Bugatti for several million. With cars, there are price points for the masses. But in todays market, there are really only 2 choices in aircraft. Those for the rich and those for the uber rich. I think it's ridiculous that a decent 4 seat plane for under $250k doesn't exist. Just my opinion though.

@drewfliesbikes

4 ай бұрын

@@tomi6261I disagree with your assertion that government safety regulations are a significant factor in pricing. Price comes down with volume: the more you make the cheaper each item becomes to produce. Ford sells 300,000 Escapes per year. That 1.5 ecoboost cost $4,000 msrp from the dealer which is less than 1/10 the cost to buy a Rotax 916. None of the cars you mentioned have composite frames which take a lot of man hours to build. The automotive industry has lots of government regulations that grow more strict every year.

@tomi6261

4 ай бұрын

​@@drewfliesbikes You make a fair point I guess but I do disagree, to some degree. I am curious to know, exactly why do you think that a new O-360 engine, which is 1950's piston technology, cost $70k today? There is no fuel injection and certainly no hi-tech computers onboard. The Ecoboost you mention is "state of the art" technology in engines, and it only costs $4k!? You believe this is strictly volume? How many more engines would Lycoming sell per year if the price were decreased to a reasonable number, like $8k? I bought my first plane only 6 years ago. A decent and perfectly flying 1976 Beech Sundowner with a fresh annual. I paid HALF the price for my plane as I paid for my Mercedes E-Class car. And the car was a Demo with 8k miles on it when I bought it!!!! I would like to blame Bidenomics, but these insane prices started years ago. I guess I am just salty over where the prices have soared to over the last 10 years.

@drewfliesbikes

4 ай бұрын

@@tomi6261 I would struggle to come up with an explanation for an O-360 costing $70k. Captive customer I suppose. I hope that Rotax can compete more and force lycoming to lower their prices. I recall something about Diamond trying to use a Mercedes engine but seems like that didn't work out too well.

nice gtfoh price

TO MUCH! For that much I would pay less. TO MUCH!

Amazing airplane with the exception of the badge. 75lbs is complete crap and a 100% dealbreaker👎🏻

Way too much money I would rather have a lancair legacy.

Too much detail. Did wait to see what range and other attributes are. Very self centered boring presentations.

And affordable too! Only half a million! Can't wait to place my order. Given that the average Tesla car has more technology and the average internal combustion car has triple the power at 1/10th the cost, this thing is a bargain! There's virtually no excuse as to why these planes cost so much, other than the rich like it that way so the sky belongs to them.

@efrenrodriguez4329

4 ай бұрын

You missed the class on economy of scale.

Damnnn, this is my new dream plane

Damnnn, this is my new dream plane