"That's why your primarch dead."

@hmshood9212

Жыл бұрын

Dead as hell.

@memelord1862

Жыл бұрын

That's why your Warmaster ain't got no arms

@loganpickells8305

Жыл бұрын

Dead as ollanius

@multidimensionalcenturion9863

Жыл бұрын

Shut up...get out of my battle fortress.

@Skulgar321

Жыл бұрын

​@@memelord1862 He can't pray to the ruinous powers.

The filing cabinet wasn't filled with complaints from the Night Haunter, it was complaints from the other primarchs ABOUT the Night Haunter.

@bbbbKeJodddd

Жыл бұрын

"He stinks."---Mortarion

@IMASAURUS1996

Жыл бұрын

"My superiority has caused some controversy." - Konrad

@kalinmir

Жыл бұрын

Horus was channeling his inner Ea-Nasir

@krissteel4074

Жыл бұрын

Imperial Crusade HR, this is Sons of Horus speaking I need to speak about a guy next to my legion Yes, what is he doing? Basically all the stuff I don't like, some night hunter, haunter guy Please hold *10000 years later of elevator music*

@joaoguilhermeassim

Жыл бұрын

"He is cringe, almost as Lorgar" - Corvus

“I was there, when Horus killed the emperor” -Garviel Loken

@Br0oham

Жыл бұрын

The emperor should have just joined the Imperium of Man

@morphispiz9746

Жыл бұрын

but Tarik told this story better

@emzetkin1100

Жыл бұрын

Until afterwards became a time quite devoid of laughter.

@BloodyArchangelus

Жыл бұрын

The most troll book from abnett.

@conradlorgar5508

Жыл бұрын

​@@BloodyArchangelusI mean it gets cleared up in like a paragraph

For the record there IS a warband of classic green-tinted "Sons of Horus" still around in 40k canon. They're called the True Sons and they maintain loyalty to Horus instead of Abbadon. Also Lucius beat Garviel pretty soundly in their rematch.

@hansgruber3064

Жыл бұрын

My Chaos Marines are a True Sons warband, I just love that there’s a group of Sons of Horus that told Abbadon to jog on when he was forming the Black legion.

@wikipediaintellectual7088

Жыл бұрын

@@hansgruber3064 Same, although I think ya boy Huron Blackheart is probably the biggest dunk on everything associated with Abaddon. Moreso even than Sigismund, Vashtorr and Eldrad.

@totalnerd5674

Жыл бұрын

I wonder, and I expect this to be considered a bad idea, but what if a cult formed from the remnants of the Sons of Horus to try and give rise to a warp entity that was a sort of twisted version of Horus, that was created by being a sort of "tear in the warp" when the Emperor deleted him? Like, it isn't the real Horus, but a sort of shadow of him?

@chromicm6686

Жыл бұрын

​@@wikipediaintellectual7088 I wish they had actualy put in as much effort into Horus and his legions fall that they did for Huron. You can agree with almost every move he made getting shat on by the imperium. I'd have prefered skirmishes like Prospero to start between individual legions that Horus tries to step in to stop, but only ends up galvanising the emergent "loyalists" and "traitor'" sides more. Perhaps Horus steps in to save a peaceful Alien civilisation that tried to ally with him, and is forced to kill imperial army or Space wolves to do so, standing up for the newly conqured worlds with a general confusion of command between the imperium, since he is the warmaster, the emperors apointed ruler, yet the wolves and administratum are under orders from the Siglite, the emperors right hand. All the while the word bearers twist this further, provoking more confrontations and finaly as things realy go to hell Erebus turns Horus and begins instigating chaos corruption through the seperatist side, till eventualy, after several assasination attempts and the begining of fullscale war the seperatists decide to purge their ranks in Istvaan of all those unwilling to oppose the emperors vision.

@wikipediaintellectual7088

Жыл бұрын

@@chromicm6686 Could it have been done better? Sure. Personally I think the timing for chaotic corruption was way off. It was completely unecssary to have not only the Horus' fall but the galaxy spanning war fought by demigods occur over such a short period of time. It has taken significantly longer for the Horus Hersesy books to come out than it took for the Horus Heresy to end. I think your ideas could've addressed that by making things more gradual. With that exception, though, I really, really like the first three horus heresy novels. They even managed to make Abaddon a compelling character.

I think they definitely played their role perfectly as THE antagonist in a universe full of antagonists

@TheBoneZone40k

Жыл бұрын

yeah, I think they are better as antagonists than anything else

@akumaking1

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBoneZone40kwhat about Lorgar and his choir boys?

@therealistintheboot8822

Жыл бұрын

​@@akumaking1IMO Lorgar and Erebussy are worse

@velstadtvonausterlitz2338

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheBoneZone40kAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@ironduke5058

Жыл бұрын

​@@therealistintheboot8822 Ere what now?

i think what made the Sons of Horus cool was that they were noble originally, despite their background. they enjoyed warfare like any astartes, but they were never cruel or blood thirsty. never relishing in the slaughter, but as much flak some people give horus for turning so quickly i think the books did a good job of showing how just a few cracks, and some change in perspective could turn this specific legion from unlikely super stars of the imperium, to the arch traitors, killing anyone who dared defied them and their warmaster

@BloodyArchangelus

Жыл бұрын

@@alsonallu8642 In early books Primarchs have almost mind-control of own sons. dont think about them serious. Early heresy is outdated meme.

The worst part is Horus was one of the nicer and compassionate primarchs. Reading the first book in the series made me fall in love with him and the wolves. Love my baby boy loken

@dennisnordlund902

Жыл бұрын

Are you a homosexual?

@dennisnordlund902

Жыл бұрын

Are you a homosexual?

@Poseidon-cw7bp

Жыл бұрын

​@@dennisnordlund902literally

@Alpharius_Grillmaster

Жыл бұрын

@@dennisnordlund902 what? No, I love their characters in the first book

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

You know who else hate Erebus, and may have beat him nearly to death. Kharn. You know what legion Kharn came from. WORLDEATERS

@malcire

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. He didn't appreciate Erebus killing his buddy.

@NapGod

Жыл бұрын

"Get up."

@Sephiroth36977

Жыл бұрын

*BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!* *SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!*

@IMASAURUS1996

Жыл бұрын

Kharn was going to kill him if he didn't have plot armor.

The Flesh Terrors did find a loyalist Luna Wolf in Stasis on a space hulk When they told him what his Primarch Horus and his brothers did back in the Horus heresy, he was pissed and stole one of the Flesh Terrors ships and went to find his Triator brothers.

@HexagonThatReallyLikesVinegar

11 ай бұрын

"THEY DID WHAT?" "yeahh...." "IM GONNA GO KILL THOSE FUCKIN BASTARDS"

@henrypaleveda7760

11 ай бұрын

I want to see the end result of this, weather it's some black legion who talk about a spook or if it's him finding tactical information or confronting the true sons.

@Vincent_A.

5 ай бұрын

@@henrypaleveda7760same

Hey there are actually remenants of the sons of horus legion that still identify as that legion they are called the True Sons and also there is a lot more to the 16th Legion than their favorite tactic of killing the enemys leaders. The problem is no one talks about them!

@nostear8261

Жыл бұрын

It’s sad but I thinks they are only in their so people can play their 30k army in 40k

@Wanten-the-stormtrooper

Жыл бұрын

There's others, too, like the Wolves of Horus! There _were_ also the Sons of the Eye until Drecarth got killed...

@BigBarry67

Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's really annoying how underrepresented they are. Especially as I think I may be one of the extremely few people who painted their generic CSM as True Sons

@Wanten-the-stormtrooper

Жыл бұрын

@@BigBarry67 I did that too! Or at least painted them as so e form of Sons of Horus, complete with Justaerin and a FW contemptor!

@nostear8261

Жыл бұрын

@@BigBarry67 what’s the typical reaction? I love the sons of Horus aesthetic but more a Night Lords fan. I was thinking of starting either a new Necron, Tau, or Chaos army

Horace Lubricate was too bald for the universe to handle.

@Tenvir

11 ай бұрын

Lubricate 🤣😅

100% agree. Garviel is quite literally the best character in all of the lore. He was never a Sons of Horus. He was and remains a Luna Wolf, a true son of Cthonia, and a loyal servant the The Emperor of Mankind, beloved by all.

@pedropierre9594

11 ай бұрын

I agree, Loken id a prodigy with unbreakable morals like the Batman, its hard to dislike a dude like that

@henrypaleveda7760

11 ай бұрын

there's so many hidden gems in the lore but there's so much lore to go through. Dantioch is my own go to.

@DaRollinThunder

11 ай бұрын

@henrypaleveda7760 honestly any loyalist from traitor legions are always the best characters. Look at Ancient Rylanor

Targaddon is 40k's best boy. The real hero. In my headcannon he joked his way out of the horus heresy and we all kived happily ever after.

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

Why do you think Little Horus fought Tarik instead of Garviel? I keep thinking about, like size for size Tarik is way bigger, more Abaddons size? I think it’s because Ezekiel knew that if Little Horus went against Loken, that Loken MAY have convinced him to stop. Because the scene where LH kills Tarik, it’s said that Loken could see regret/hesitation in his eyes.

@Qver-gd9bg

Жыл бұрын

@@vicstanfieldshire7754I still think little Horus should have been the one to lower the vengeful spirit’s gellar fields, not horus

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

@@Qver-gd9bg that would have blown my mind lol

Quick correction, the interex actually supassed the imperium of man in technological prowess. They had more advanced, far more manuverable power armor that anyone could wear without issue, bows that shot arrows of energy that could instantly kill space marines, and IIRC; they also had functioning men of iron that didnt betray them, and were aware of the dangers of chaos.

I won’t lie, I genuinely LOVE the Sons of Horus, and plan on getting and painting a SoH army for 30k and a True Sons army for 40k. From their color scheme, which idk why but the gold and dark green with the contrast of big red Eyes of Horus just looks so baller to me, to the whole “suped up, disciplined ganger” aesthetic they have, kinda similar to the NL with their culture being heavily influenced by Nostroman gang culture. In fact, when it comes to their aesthetic, like many other legions have their own “aesthetics” (WS=Mongols, DA=Classical Knightly Orders, IF=US Marines and Teutonic Knights in a blender), the SoH have a blend of that ganger culture and the Roman Kingdom. Where as Bobby G and the Blue Crew are more akin to Late Republic/Imperial Rome, SoH feels like the early Roman Kingdom; a gaggle of tough as nails marauders that can beat people around because of their discipline, while not sacrificing their savagery

@PexDoombringer

11 ай бұрын

Didn't know that Early Roman aesthetic influence, fella. Any artwork or references where I can find some sources of that Roman vibe into the SoH? I love the concept you pointed out there

I like the Black Legion terminators. My all-time favorite terminators, with their little fur patches, their colorful skull ornaments, and those cool tusks. There should be a T'au battle suit with mammoth tusks and razor claws, that'd be sick. Also, when T'au?

Horus actually has a way back, when the Emperor killed his soul his soul wasn't actually all there, part of it is still undergoing to trials of the chaos gods iirc.

@Kor-Phaeron

Жыл бұрын

Yea, but most of the people never read the actual books and just rely on a person, that listened to a another person and this person just read the wiki

@DirtyMardi

Жыл бұрын

⁠@@Kor-Phaeronaccuracy? In my Warhammer? Seriously though, people like parroting memes. Many youtubers do this.

@mr.raider7865

Жыл бұрын

Tbf can you blame people not wanting to read/listen to like 60 books when 3/4 are at best not really important and don't really contain anything super necessary and at worst a waste of time but a neat story if you are lucky? Additionally you have to hope that GW remember this tid bit and it's not "ret-conned".

@kharn4770

Жыл бұрын

pretty sure Maloghurst sorted that out in slaves to darkness

@Kor-Phaeron

Жыл бұрын

@@kharn4770 kinda, but what he is referring to something that happens later on. I don't want to spoil you bro

I play Sons of Horus PURELY because they have the coolest fucking armor color. If there was an Orange legion I would paint that in a heartbeat, but the muted seafoam green of the SoH is fantastic, and then you highlight it with teal and do a dark wash, it comes out looking fantastic.

only 3 more to go till Corvus baby!

They REALLY should've got Guilliman to be the Warmaster. He feels like someone who would be calm enough to deal with infinite paperwork and complaints.

@1simo93521

10 ай бұрын

It does sound like horus was promoted beyond his abilities and had a nervous breakdown.

@georgeaird4637

4 ай бұрын

Guilliman wasn’t universally respected and was seen as one of the ‘runt’ primarchs during the Great Crusade. I think Sanguinius would’ve been the better pick.

Theres like two to three SoH Warbands with one of them emulating the Luna Wolves and another making wood statues of Horus to burn(in a venerating way)

Man, i can't wait for your channel to blow up in the 40k community. Your short but accurate info dumps are perfect for new people coming in and vets just wanting to listen to someone elses opinion on their hobby. Keep it up

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

HERE HERE!!

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

"Magic Poop Knife" made me exhale through my nose

That "I'm Arthur" is literally why I come here.

@TheBoneZone40k

Жыл бұрын

comically enough, half the people who show up absolutely hate it and the other half think it's iconic

@NameName2.0

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBoneZone40k WHAT!? Dude I LOVE it! It's SO ICONIC! "Hi! I'm Arthur..." It's so chill and friendly!

@ashergregory2013

Жыл бұрын

I love it too! It's different & charismatic

When you get too abaddon please don’t just roast him please. I genuinely do like his backstory and motives and I just hope you do him even a fraction upon a fraction of him justice. (Plus his model is goated)

@PrinceOfChange

Жыл бұрын

Incompetence wears terminator armor.

@ronramen5827

Жыл бұрын

His model can’t be that great when he’s got no arms

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

It can also can FULL SPRINT in Terminator Armor… that’s some competent incompetence.

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

I really liked early Ezekiel, so I’m hoping he gets some points for playing Horus like a fiddle.

@BloodyArchangelus

Жыл бұрын

Abaddon was killed by Sigizmund. Only living corpse remained as Horus once was

Garviel Loken is hands down the best, as much as I love Sigismund Garviel is better. If Loken had his own chapter they'd probably be my favorite, since he doesn't I have to go with Sigismund and the black templars

@pedropierre9594

11 ай бұрын

Im still waiting for Loken to show up in current lore, the Lions soul was trapped in the warp, when Loken stepped thru the portal, who knows he might come out now with the rift open

Some parts still exist like the True Sons but they are extremely small

Let Horus’ treacherous husk forever be damned to torment and cruelty at the hands of his malevolent benefactors! *spits on Worldbreaker

Imperial taxes are heavy and was the most common complaint that Horus got every day. The great crusade was expensive and the cost was paid most heavily by ones who resisted the Imperium. Arguably if the taxes were lower the Horus Heresy wouldn't have happened.

During that vision where he saw the Emperor as a god he also saw statues of only 9 of the 18 Primarchs, and then got told that the Emperor had the other 9 erased from the history books

I love the way you explain all this lore! It really makes it so much easier for me to understand!!👍👍👍👍😉

Lol. *The Emperor replied. Any human emotion was bereft of his tone.* Lmao.

In my head, Cawl created a Primaris group as a successor to the Dark Angels who wear all white and may have accidentally used Sixteenth Legion stock. Oopsie whoopsie. And concur. Gabriel Loken is my favorite.

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

#HENRYCAVILLASGARVIELLOKEN

@SRTifiable

Жыл бұрын

@@vicstanfieldshire7754 I’m convinced!

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

@@SRTifiable it would be SO perfect and that character covers SO much. First Primarch discovered by Big E; the pacification of Luna, unification wars, Murder, 63-19, ALL the Remembrancer shit, The Lodges, Davin, Mourneval, Istvaan 3, Then him going batshit crazy as Cerberus, recruited by Garro as a Knight Errant… it goes on and on…

@vicstanfieldshire7754

Жыл бұрын

@@SRTifiable and we already know Cavill can rock long light hair like a MFr

@SRTifiable

Жыл бұрын

@@vicstanfieldshire7754 *insert Geralt growling here* It really would be the perfect way to kick things off.

HORUS HORUS HORUS HORUS LETS FUCKING GO

"He turned us into Killers !!!" - Unknown SoH legionnaire

To quote: "THAT MAN HAS A HERESY NAMED AFTER HIM!"

So close to the 18th Legion, VULKAN LIVES 🔥🔥🔥

@brotherbob1

Жыл бұрын

Yes brother VULKAN LIVES!!!!🔥🔥🔥

No wonders Abaddon changed the name of the legion after the heresy, even the legionaires knew how awfull it was to be related to the sons of horus x)

Also the story about how they earned their original name was badass.

5:56 I thought you were gonna say "the night haunter's war crimes"

@beefyblom

3 ай бұрын

he'd need more than a filing cabinet to keep track of *those*

"...did the F*cky Wucky" It's like Chaucer is in the room with us.

I just started reading the Horus Heresy.... and yeah.... F Erebus!

@TheBoneZone40k

Жыл бұрын

He is kind of the root cause of everything

@malcire

Жыл бұрын

There's a guy who does angry rant videos about WH40k. And to paraphrase "if you have Lorgar, KorPharon, and Erebus tied up and a gun with 2 bullets; shoot Erebus with both and then beat his corpse with the gun until it breaks".

Ah yes, the "im the horus heresy" of the most warhammering forty thousand baldy

I’ve got plans to make a successor chapter of them that have gone semi renegade in the Imperium Nihilus and the more lore i have of them the better so thanks mr Arthur guy

I am making a sons of horus 40k army they use black legion rules but are painted sons of horus style and have the reavers squads and justaerin. And as you said violence in a short ammount of time is a great way to describe the sons of horus

Regarding recruiting gangers for the Sons of Horus: the Space Wolves were recruited from viking raiders, and Alpharius and his initial handful of followers were space pirates, so it's not like this kind of thing is exactly unprecedented in the Imperial military. It even works out okay quite a lot of the time: the Armageddon and Necromundan regiments of the Imperial Guard recruit from hive gangers, and they both have a highly-respected history of service.

Oh, I’m liking THIS channel already, absolutely putting notification on for this :)

That background picture by nemris is actually tied to the Roboutian Heresy as in they are ALL loyalists in that scenario

If only horus hadnt turned because some random entities had shown him a dubious vision while his brother was standing there telling him it was a trick but somehow said "duh i know" then woke up like "so anyway i joined them"

3:16 Never forget the only lovable character there: Tarik mustache Torgaddon

@TheBoneZone40k

Жыл бұрын

pour one out for the real one

Ah yes the backstory chaos space marines

To put into perspective how big of a fuck up they were, there wouldnt be 40k without them or at the very least, it wouldnt be grimdark

The Horus heresy spans well over 60 books ...the siege of terra adds more to that count and the scouring is what happens when his forces lose and about their retreat into the warp. Then there are the other books and novellas that are to do with it ...think more around 100 ...and you're closer

always make me happy when you drop a video. something about your voice is just so relaxing for some reason. keep up the goo work m8 :D

Solid vid today! Can't wait for the Abaddon vid!

Another way of looking at it is that one of the strongest Primarchs was so horrified by the life of the average person in the 40K Imperium that it drove him insane. Now _THAT_ is fucking Grimdark.

The salamanders are very nice. You should make a video on them.

Erebus may have lit the match but the primarchs were a powder keg waiting to explode. Lorgar would have done the heresy if Horus hadn’t fallen

Every time I think of Magnus finding Horse and erbus in the warp all I can think about is that breaking bad meme where Walter is yelling at hank from the car

That whole intro was oddly specific. 😅

Oh sweet, nice to see some of my art (0:04)

@TheBoneZone40k

Жыл бұрын

Oh shit? Really?

@juuso757

Жыл бұрын

@@TheBoneZone40k Yep, some of my old loyalist Sons of Horus I made for Roboutian Heresy. Can be found in DeviantArt under Nemris

Horus is so dead he ended up in the Retconnian without actually being retconned out of the lore.

9:37 - an upbeat intermission

Horus: Rapidly loses his hair when put in charge of a stable galaxy Guilliman: Soloing a galaxy filled to the brim with death and war.

Mr.Bones, I don't normally sub right away. But you Mr.bones are the exception. 🤘

@TheBoneZone40k

Жыл бұрын

thanks!

You ever think of how Horus is kinda like Sigmar when he got stabbed by his buddy and ended up in a weird dream? But Sigmar's dad shows up and is like "Hey, man. Itll be cool. Fight Chaos". No dad comes to save Horus.... I think.... Its been like 20 years since I read the first Horus Heresy books.

This is informative but so damn funny. Think I will have to watch the rest.

I can see the advantages of the 16th and the signs of what they will become. On one side gangs are very similar to armies. They have a strict hierarchy, the people who make up it's members see each other as brethren of a sort and they work towards a common goal involving violence. Unlike military organizations though, gangs see themselves and their leader as the endpoint. Whatever the leader wants to do the gang do too, as long as it serves the gang's interests. After Horus took command of the legion they were no longer servants of humanity, they were Sons of Horus.

I’d started writing that you are just wrong, it’s all Erebus fault. And then I heard you speak my mantra, “Fuck Erebus.”

Imho after reading the Horus Heresy it seems like most of what happened was on traitor Primarchs/their seconds/Erebus and now they blame the loyalists despite being directly responsible for the shitty state Imperium is in and also perpetuating the war with Imperium hence damning and destroying humanity further.

As a SoH player in HH loved the vid

Horus looks like Musolini

If you want 40k Sons of Horus you're probably looking for Thrice-Cursed Traitors: the True Sons, the Wolves of Horus or the Sons of the Eye (could hypothetically regroup and escape from the Black Legion's ranks). The Chosen of Heiros left Black Legion for some reason, not sure what's going on with them. I like warbands like this because it's easy to follow what's known and fill in whatever you want with the rest. You want them to run around with Vashtorr? to embrace Khorne and/or Tzeentch but they reject Slaanesh and Nurgle? maybe you don't like Abaddon, so your Abaddon is actually a fake, (an ancient Alpha Legion Praetor) running around uniting Thrice-Cursed stragglers and using them for cryptic schemes (and maybe even your "Abaddon" model is sporting the old green as a ploy to recruit them).

5:44 bro that shit machete joke had me wheezing! I’ve never heard a more accurate description of it before 😂

Oooh, nice video dude!

I would love to see a corrupted-but-pre-Istvann Massacre Sons of Horus detachment that got lost in the Warp emerge into realspace in Imperium Nihilus and try to bluff their way into Dante's presence without knowing anything about what has happened in the past 10,000 years.

I wonder if I could just paint true sons of Horus for 40k and run the ascended Horus mini as abaddon as a proxy?

“ c’mon Loken, relax “ - Sons of Horus as they perform things the Emperor clearly prohibits in their cabal 😂

4 more episodes until the cluster fuck that is the 20th legion!

2:18 The Imperial Fists get theri recruits from many places, including NECROMUNDA specifically looking for gangers.

12:19 There is actually one! A splinter of the Black Legion made up of members with Horus’s geneseed. They’re called The True Sons and people have made some pretty radical paint jobs for them.

there is a warband called The Sons of the Lupercal that use the old legion sea green armor.

Good intro 10/10

lol imagine getting stabbed with a magic poop knife and deciding to join the guys who stabbed you

I remain a Luna Wolf…

*can you come up with a word to describe how dead he is* **Cadaveric** Golden reference

This is objectively correct. It is glorious, well done.

When Kharn?

13:25 Rylanor, dantioch, constantine valdor.

Emperor: "Hmmm, maybe I should make their minds and therefore souls work like mine to make them the anti-thesis of Chaos and therefore utterly immune to it, since I'm making them and their legions specifically to destroy Chaos...Naaaah. What's the worst that could happen?"

Ah yes the legion of daddy issues

I swear to god with these intros you can hear the smile in this man's voice. Either that or he's high out of his mind.

I'm glad I chose these guys as my loyalist homebrew

"Horus is a massive failure." -Lion 'El Johnson

You won't see an Sons of Horus or Luna Wolf warband in 40K because Abaddon hunted them all down

Dunno if you know or if anyone cares but there is a faction of Sons of Horus who still exist in 40k. The "True Sons of Cthonia" are a warband who keep their colors and legion culture and hate Abby and the Black Legion. They also are just renegades so rarely use Chaos. Great video!

We have a reason for Horus turning traitor, Chaotic infestation while unaware of how to defend himself combined with Chaos showing up a vision out of context. However, we don't have a reason for his legion joining his rebellion. We don't even really have that for the Emperor's Children, either. We really only have a reason for Perturabo and the Iron Warriors...um...I mean, there's the Night Lords and all but they didn't so much "rebel" as went AWOL. There's also the Word Bearers, they had a good reason as they felt betrayed and abandoned by their god and all their beliefs and view of the world smashed into their faces by him personally. But, yeah, the Sons of Horus didn't really have a motive beyond "Daddy said so". Same for the Death Guard and really the vast majority of Traitor Legions.

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7:28 I would dare to say that they were more advanced than the imperium, however they don't had the numbers to back up their technological advantages.

Horus really showed one of the most human side during the Interex incident, too much pressure and hope had put on his shoulder by others and also himself, and it only took one bad day, after all even primarchs can’t part their human nature.