Dude started 4 days ago and is making peak content already

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! I’ve actually been working on these videos for over a month now and just put them out 😂

@vap1777

5 ай бұрын

@@The1SunshineFeelerreally awesome I love this kind of stuff

@Smacker53

5 ай бұрын

Real

@gyropizzamozzarella1012

5 ай бұрын

Bro been grinding 💪😂

@Scott_marlin-94

4 ай бұрын

Mystery and lost rare data fits

U deserve my sub, talking 1 hour about the sonic 2 prototype is tough. Having music on top and background graphics and on context images must be painful...

16:20 "Bad" ending Agreed entirely. It makes Shadows death scene in SA2 hit so much harder too. Great vudeo essay BTW

@b0xE_

3 ай бұрын

Wow... I never realized that parallel. 🤯

I live in Russia and I had a cartridge in my childhood with some of Sonic 2 prototype. If only I knew it was rare thing :(

The Aug. 21st build is my favorite prototype honestly. It's so close to the spanish promotional video I used to watch being like "Where's more of those lost builds?" That to me is a gem. I lost it when that was found. It's a slightly more playable Wai prototype haha!

Just hearing you talk about how the levels are designed gave me an idea. You could take away the acts and just have levels. That way you could transition from green hill zone to the woods, bridge zone whatever you like. Then you would actually feel like you are travelling around the map world more. But I know how much people like acts. Probably why I love DKC and Mario World for their maps and how you progress.

The Track 10 (hidden Palace) haunted my childhood and years playing the game trying to find where that song was in the main game

This video is actually one of the most accurate I've seen in regards to Sonic 2's full development and very in depth, great stuff

18:30 Game Theory: Some of the original stages from S2 8B were probably intended to be in S2's South Island time travel plot

25:26 it could be that Dust Hill's level slot was used for mystic cave in the final game, there's also the possiblity of there being 2 desert levels initially in the game, i like to think that Dust Hill was that one level from the image and that Sand Shower became aquatic ruins (because the name makes it sound like it would mix a desert level with water)

This man is the new cybershell

@warning7555

5 ай бұрын

Cybershell if he was good

@LordFrieza626

5 ай бұрын

@@warning7555 he is good

@RoshiBro08

3 ай бұрын

​@@LordFrieza626that's the joke

Sonic 1 released a week before my younger sister was born so I can confirm that is close to the actual release date. My older cousin nabbed a copy immediately and gave it to me later on. :)

16:35 Again with the FAX. The Half Pipe Stages were such a hassle to deal with (even if future ports allowed you to see the rings better). Idk why many Classic Sonic games had to reuse this idea multiple times (although to Sonic 2’s credit they did give you many chances).

I would suspect Tails losing your rings was a consequence of copying the code for Sonic, never an intentional feature.

I am POSITIVE you will get more recognition. You are very underrated.

This feels like a video from a seasoned KZreadr, not a sub 1000 KZreadr

You mentioning Archives made me do a double take. I actually know the guys working on that hack, and helped with some code for the (currently WIP) special stage. Great people, especially great artists, don’t know when you should expect new public builds but I know you guys will like what they’re cooking Don’t have much to say about the video itself, without just basically repeating it anyway

Can't believe we now know how the Winter level would've look

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I’m so happy we got that! I would love to know where the idea came from since it wasn’t on the concept map 🤔

@migueon22

2 ай бұрын

​@@The1SunshineFeelerIt's been pretty much confirmed that Winter Zone is a later concept of Rock World Zone, since in some documents, an ice level is stated to be the past version of a desert level, and Rock World is in the same spot as Sand Showers is in the past map, not to mention they both share graphics, much like Emerald Hill and Hilltop, plus, Rock World's level slot in the Simon Wai build plays the Sky Chase theme, which further confirms Rock World had been turned into a winter zone by that point

excuse me…596 SUBS?! HOW?! YOU ARE SO GREAT! NEW FAVORITE KZreadR BESIDES PIKKAI!

35:02 Take it back.

I love the Sonic the Sludgehog drawing so much.

Man, i know your channel is new and all but you feel like a channel whodeserves way more subs than you currently have. Your content is good. Hope more people recognise ur talent sooner than later

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!!

Ngl I really like Casino Night's original colors and layout.

Imagine a day we could have the ultimate Sonic 2 based on the original concepts with all the planned levels and story.

Tails losing rings makes sense when you consider he loses rings when he's hit in the special stages AND he's controlled by player 2, who is able to collect his own rings in those special stages and loses them when hit. The ring count is still combined, but they each had their own. I wonder if the final version would have had it the same way in the regular zones too?

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

I doubt it would’ve made it into the final game, because given how much more complex Tails’ AI is in the regular zones, it would’ve created so many problems that the game would be nearly unplayable in single player, and the developers would have to account for so many situations and redesign levels in order to prevent them, which they didn’t have the time to deal with . In the special stages all he does is follow Sonic left to right and jump, and the only things you can do are dodge bombs and collect rings, so there’s not really as many situations to account for.

@MacUser2-il2cx

5 ай бұрын

@@The1SunshineFeeler Maybe the reason there were so many zones was to compete with how many levels were in Super Mario World? I know you said it was most likely 18 zones and one act per zone, but if you were to multiply each zone by 2 or 3, you would get a high number of acts in the same ballpark as a Mario game at the time.

Dust Hill Zone might be a mine cave from the old west and take place after the Sand Shower Zone. The transition works from level to level that way. Eh just a theory. It'd make for a cool hack.

I appreciate that you’re recording on original hardware. Ngl the retro aesthetic looks pretty cool. It’s something you don’t see everyday lol

Bros cheating the KZread algorithm and I couldn’t be happier

Oh my god…. A new creator, he does sonic things, he’s amazing, he deserves more subs, and he uses music from the ova? I think your gonna go real far in life. Keep it up!

I still hope that someone talented creates an entire fan game about it, like Sonic 2 was planned. Still with the Sonic 2 Levels inside. This would be such a big and nice 2D Sonic game.

I'm really digging these prototype sonic vids, man!

Sonic CD really is like a mix of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 but exists as it's own thing.

Reiko Kodama passed away not too long ago too. She worked on a lot of good Sega games.

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Damn. I only found out that Shelly had passed away during editing hence why I didn’t mention it in the recording (I had already knew Greg Martin passed away), but I went all this time and somehow never heard about Kodama’s passing. R.I.P.

honestly I didn't expected a one hour video about sonic 2 the next day after I've subscribed to you it's like the content gods making sure I have enough content so i don't get bored

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

I got your back 👍

In fact, that image of the Sand Shower Zone would be one of the first photos of the first prototype of Sonic The Hedgehog 2, I believe it was an early prototype, where I would use an initial Tails sprite, where he would be brown, and Sonic's sprite would be from S1 but with different colors.

How on earth do you just have 2K, I would legit see some content like this from somebody who’s been around 4-7 years Keep going dude

i guess that Dust Hill is just a dryed out Green Hill

Its amazing how the algorithm has pucked your channel up! The community needs more people who have their favts straight and deliver in debth content! Congratulations on 1k!

Genocide City might have been like a bad future type of zone. Like a zone where Robotnik takes over and destroys everything with his robots.

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Well it IS in the bad future.

Amazing video, my only suggestion is maybe lowering the music a bit more. It's very close to the volume of your voice which makes it a bit harder to focus.

24:24 to 24:31 GREAT

The second i saw this video, i knew i needed to watch it 😂 you're already becoming my favorite creator

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

Thank you for making this so long it’s amazingly detailed

This is some good stuff my man, always appreciate some high quality sonic history videos

Great videos dude! I just stumbled across your content tonight. Really informative and fun narration! I'm now subbed to your channel. :) By the way-- did you hear that actual raw Sand Shower graphics were found on one of Tom Payne's development disks? It was discovered literally yesterday!

Peak content

48:20 Oil Ocean’s music was the track intended for Sand Shower Zone

@AmeBleu_ov1

2 ай бұрын

48:52 Also, track 10 isn’t Hidden Palace’s theme, if I remember correctly one of the developers stated that track 10 was supposed to be cutscreen music

15:50 Super Sayajin.

wood zone should've had badniks made out of actual wood

Hey, i came for your Sonic retro post.. Good content man, greetings from Argentina !

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

That’s great! Thanks for watching!

lmage how crazy the sonic canon will be if Boomer the Turtle was picked over tails

I’ve been waiting so long for a video like this.

peak content as expected🔥🔥

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

That’s not what I was thinking when I was editing it 😂 but thanks!!!

That Night Club song sounds more like it belongs in Aladdin on Sega Genesis rather than Sonic 2.

Making my place before this absolutely blows up lol

I always wondered why they never added little parachutes to the Flickies in Sky Chase Zone. Would of been so cute.

Awesome video! I really like long content

25:43 😭☠️☠️

Nice vid, the topic needed someone to go thru all the early versions, like you did here. :) Although it still seems that the 2 most-important ones are: the Nick Arcade prototype, and the Simon Wai prototype. The later ones are just filling in the last details of the final version. Which is basically the impression I got, some years ago, when I was first looking at the topic, it's mainly those 2 that are worth playing. (There's also several great hacks that fill-out the lost stages, I was going to make a vid about that someday, haha.)

I hate the prototype version of metropolis zone so glad it was fixed 😮

Good video 👍

underrated channel tbh

Great video! Very informative and well researched. You got yourself a sub! :)

I just found this video and realized how underrated you are.

This was SO GOOD. A little jab at nostalgia critic there was funny I didn't see it coming. Looking forward to whats coming up. See you next game

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

I think when I was writing the script I was originally gonna put a “Why does it look like Vegas?!” when I got to the finalized Casino Night, but I forgot to put it in 😂

@Sonicfalcon16

5 ай бұрын

I think what you went with was MUCH better. Everyone was quoting the vegas line I'm glad you put in the inflatable hand women. Or the blowing into your hand and making a pumpkin appear@@The1SunshineFeeler

Keep up the great work newcomer!

Good Video!

Bro this video is peak content🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️ Keep up the good work bro

Good video! Didn't know about some stuff here. Also, Saiyan in Japanese is Saiyajin.

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I mispronounced it and I didnt notice until it was too late and didn’t get the chance to edit it out 😭

cool vids dude!!!! :)

33:11 WAIT YOU CAN JUMP MID SPIN DASH?! 😳

"The bad ending makes me sense." Sonic 3: Ummm should I tell him?

your music choices for this video were great! really liked the beat remixes. where did you find them? id like to listen to them some more

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

I’ll release them after I release my next 2 videos 👍

@Mari-lg1wk

5 ай бұрын

​@@The1SunshineFeeleralright! sounds good

Pardon the double post but one theory about the music i have; The music used for Aquatic ruins could have originally been used for Sand Showers zone. very subtle we can hear a 5-note leitmotif popularly used and parodied in Western (as in cowboys) media. Aquatic ruins theme; kzread.info/dash/bejne/c66jpJiRiNHLkZM.html The Good, the Bad and The Ugly leitmotif; kzread.info/dash/bejne/mnZ4mNVpkqiaZbg.html However, as someone in the comments under the AR deconstruction video mentioned it could have been the Tarzan Scream mentioined. Considering AR is based in a jungle-y type of place and Tarzan did take place in a jungle too this could have also been the case. However i personally thingk its more a reference to the The Good, The Bad and the Ugly considering how popular that song became, topping no.4 on the billboards at some point in time aswell as how heavily referenced that leitmotif in western (cowboys etc) media before the release of sonic 2. The tarzan scream is ONLY known as the Tarzan scream. TGtBatU leitmotife is known known as THE western/cowboy leitmotif, or hell even referenced in areas that look like it could be the backdrop of a western cowboy film. Sand Showers looks like that with the Cacti, the rock formations in the background that resemble that of MONUMENT VALLEY Monument Valley- a location seen often in western cowboy films/media.

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Interesting 🤔

nice video

AOSTH and SatAM are great opposites and should both be appreciated. :)

How dare you not liking poor little Sonic Origins! You should be ashamed yourself for not liking Sonic Origins!

@sdFreerey

5 ай бұрын

What?

@Piggieyt75

2 ай бұрын

@@sdFreereySarcasm perhaps?

25:39 why’d you build a fat benis?

Tails sharing the same bank account with Sonic wasn't a good idea and which doesn't make sense for them to take a long time to remove it. Actually Tails sharing the bank account despite just meeting Sonic was already a weird thing

25:23-25:57 What is bro doing...

24:30: That’s not a Nazi symbol. It’s the original Buddhist symbol, the Nazi symbol is the backwards version. Which makes sense actually. The Buddhist symbol shows a Z like Zen. :)

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Yeah I’m aware, I just thought it was funny because anyone else would interpret it that way XD

@JamesChessman

5 ай бұрын

@@The1SunshineFeeler Well ok lol, I'm glad to provide the footnote that the Buddhist symbol of peace, remains a living symbol, for forever. Completely regardless that the Nazi's made their own... backwards, hate-symbol, it doesn't affect the original Buddhist teachings of peace, from 2,600 years ago, and into the future. For example, Buddha statues have always been carved with the original symbol, on their chest. :)

Hey! This video was amazing! But I was wondering if you can do something like this for Sonic 3 (& Knuckles)?

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Maybe some time in the future if more gets discovered about that game, but I feel like for now everything that could be said about that game has been said before and I have nothing to add :)

25:45 wth

1:01:27- 1:01:37 Wow! 😂 #waltdisney

Are there timestamps for the music names in the video I just watched this whole thing and did not realize I needed to look out for those, did not look at the desc till it was over

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

I’ll put some in there 👍

The "chinese" neocities site was actually a taiwanese one since the chinese were banned from using the internet.

45:28 why doesn’t tails have yellow arms

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

Oh crap! I forgot to point that out! It’s the same thing with Knuckles in the special stages if you plug Sonic 2 into Sonic & Knuckles. The reason is that their torsos are based on Sonic’s sprite, thus their arms share the different pale palette.

What’s the music at 20:00 ?

@The1SunshineFeeler

5 ай бұрын

It’s something I made myself, I’ll start releasing some of my BGM when I reach enough subscribers:)

25:45 Least immature debug mode user

@RoshiBro08

3 ай бұрын

Lmao

This video is so peak

6:15 Ummm actually they use the european releases 🤓🤓🤓

f0jud etjesus the one hour my godddddddddddddd

Why do you like the japanese soundtrack it actually killed my ears once not because I put it too loud I put it pretty low level but it was so bad it made my ears become mute.

Fun fact: The hidden palace zone music in the prototype is actually the original Dust Hill zone music. (Not going to upload my prototype but maybe someone out there will upload a version with it)