The Sonic Game They Wanted You to Forget About
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Alax back at it again with the games we would like to forget about. As you know, I love Sonic games, but there is one that was both cancelled, and also feels like it was just wiped away by Sega. Today, we yell about Sonic 4.
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fun fact: this game wasn't initially developed as "Sonic 4", hell you can see the original name in the background of Casino Street Zone (it was gonna be titled "Sonic the Portable" and, as it suggests, was gonna be a mobile game first)
@MarioLuigi0404
Жыл бұрын
I played it on mobile as a kid. Back in the iPhone 4 days. The game isn’t great but I have a lot of nostalgia for it.
@xxsegaxx
Жыл бұрын
That explains the lack of momentum.I mean even Sonic fucking Advance which was also developed by Dimps had momentum. But if you think in a cheap and easy to do Sonic game that you can make it for a phone,and considering how simple phones were back then...I get it
@orangeslash1667
Жыл бұрын
@@xxsegaxx Dimps had no creative freedom when making this game.
@silversonic99
Жыл бұрын
@@MarioLuigi0404 That's gotta be the most reasonable statement on a Sonic game ever made.
@marcoworlds7681
Жыл бұрын
Is it really only me who thinks that sonic 4 was sorta trying to copy the new super Mario bros style but then try to also make it 2d with cell shading and then made it completely terrible all at once?
Admittedly, this time they succeeded in making me forget about this.
@amydoesart3724
Жыл бұрын
Mania straight up made everyone forget this game
@Tree_-wp5zn
Жыл бұрын
Sonic 06 and boom tried the same thing.
@evdestroy5304
Жыл бұрын
@Tree_5000 No, they didn't, 06 was in Gens and has music in the Frontiers update, and they still sell merchandise revolving around it
@kaxcommentssomethingREAL
Жыл бұрын
@@amydoesart3724 man i literally forgot about mania, and it's weird seeing barely nobody talk about it nowadays maybe it's just me, maybe i'm seeing way less mania content
@delta3244
Жыл бұрын
@@evdestroy5304 Adding on to your statement, Eggman's leitmotifs from '06 have lasted a while. I _believe_ they weren't used in Frontiers, but I still wouldn't be surprised to hear them again in future releases. They're a really good set of musical things. (edit - grammar, fixed subject-verb agreement)
The momentum problem in this game is so perplexing because Dimps proved that they knew how to make good sonic physics with the Advance and Rush games.
@alescano3504
Жыл бұрын
I think the problem is that they used the rush engine physics for an advance-classic type of game. Thus, the really weird controls. I wonder why. I suspect that the advance engine was 2D, so they went with the rush engine for the 3D physics. They likely didn't have the time/resources/initiative to accomodate it to the classic gameplay. Also they expected it to kinda fly under the radar since it was going to be a mobile game, then SEGA or ST decided it is sonic four now. That's my guess
@spindash64
Жыл бұрын
And 3DS classic Sonic physics are genuinely on point
@Eldoofus
Жыл бұрын
@@alescano3504 Ok but the rush engine wasn't mobile compatible
@lilpumpupthejam9302
Жыл бұрын
@@alescano3504 none of that makes any sense from a programming perspective
@bluestar5812
Жыл бұрын
I think the answer is simple: Sonic 4 was developed as smartphone game called "Sonic the Portable". For some stupid reason Sega rebranded this mobile game as "Sonic 4 Episode I" to cash in the trend of cheap Xbox Live Arcade and Wiiware games and Episodic releases. Because this game was made for touch screen devices in mind, removing all momentum makes easier to control Sonic when you have no tactile feedback. So I believe the absence of momentum in Sonic 4 Episode I was a design choice. For Episode II they fixed the physics, somewhat, but that game got panned by critics despite being better than Episode I.
Took me like 5 minutes to realise this wasn't an old Alax video I somehow forgot about, it was a brand new one My man still has it on him, it's like he never left
I learned to count thanks to Sonic! 1, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania... That's all I can remember...
@skylertherat
Жыл бұрын
1, cd, 2, 3 , and knuckles, mania
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
It's almost as if Sonic 4 happens after Sonic Mania 🤔
@thedman1754
Жыл бұрын
1, CD, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania, Adventure, Adventure 2, Heroes, Shadow, Rush, 06, Rush adventure, Secret rings, Unleashed, Black Knight, Colors, Generations, Lost world, Forces, Frontiers.
@biodock2003
Жыл бұрын
Sonic 1, 2, CD, 3 and Knuckles, Triple Trouble, 4, MANIA
@ThKnight64
Жыл бұрын
@@skylertherat 1, CD, 2, 3, & Knuckles, Mania, Plus...
nothing makes me happier than seeing Alax is back I can't lie
@WuvPain
Жыл бұрын
🎅 What about Christmas?
@rottingbasket3379
Жыл бұрын
Can the other brothers even deny?
@EmpaGalactica
Жыл бұрын
amen brother
@nullset2
Жыл бұрын
We only need jakey too
7:33 that was a nice ytp moment right there
if i had a quarter for everytime a franchise who’s mascot is an anthropomorphic animal made a 4th game in the franchise that was so bad they later retconned it out of existence with a true 4th game that was actually good… i’d have 50 cents.
@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10
Жыл бұрын
Is the second banjo kazooie, jack and daxtar or rachet and Clank. I'm not too familiar with those and I'm curious.
@samueld8413
Жыл бұрын
@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 it’s Crash
@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10
Жыл бұрын
@@samueld8413 there was a fourth game before the remakes and Crash 4 it's about time ?
@3spoons366
Жыл бұрын
@@FailedUltimatelifeForm7-10 COUGH COUGH (wrath of cortex) COUGH COUGH (crash 4 in japan)
@castform7
Жыл бұрын
I was anticipating the classic "which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice" but then I remembered you said quarter instead of nickel.
RelaxAlex channeling his YTPMV skills and bringing in all that fnaf experience he’s been playing for this
Imagine the expression on Isaac Newton's face when he finds out his laws of motion are being violated by a Sonic made of cheap plastic.
@BinglesP
4 ай бұрын
For a second I misread the start of this comment as "Imagine the motion blur on Isaac Newton's face" 💀
I feel like this is more like...The Sonic game we can collectively agree to forget about.
@relaxalax
Жыл бұрын
Damn this was the better title and I blew it. Take the channel I guess.
@ejthenobody
Жыл бұрын
@@relaxalax gamin'.
@orangeslash1667
Жыл бұрын
@@relaxalax This game was made by Dimps, who also made Sonic Advance.
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
Not me. I still love this game.
@andraw4002
Жыл бұрын
Ep 2 is an improvement
The comedic timing in this video has me sliding up a wall like sonic after a grand time at casino street.
6:42 Bro didn't even say yes and he was crushed
Im always excited for the way Alax appears through the door as an introduction. This one has to be my favorite aside the mario strikers one.
Alex’s fnaf trauma is slowly seeping into these videos and i absolutely adore it-
I remember buying this on steam being disgusted by the first level and never playing it again. Don’t think I’ve ever given up that fast on a game I bought ever
@Eevee860
10 ай бұрын
The mobile versions are the complete versions of the game, you played the unfinished version
I'm convinced that Alax made this entire video around the time he was moving just so he could make that "There's a lot to unpack here" pun.
as a stupid 7 year old I adored these two games but looking back at em, holy shit 😭
10:01 genuinely caught off guard by the lack of "meow" or Ganon sound censoring
@Xenon_XTH
6 ай бұрын
Y'know that alax breaks the "meow"s
@BinglesP
4 ай бұрын
Thank you new KZread policies for letting creators swear again
3:46 I LOVED Kid Pix in elementary school bro I completely forgot about it, what a memory you've unlocked thank you
5:04 just the perfectly spaced row of trees. Thats physically painful.
8:24 Honestly Alax, bless you for continuing putting this clip into every video you do now. I literally load a video eager to find when it plays
A true Sonic fans never forget and forever keeps a grudge.
@kirbo4252
Ай бұрын
Sounds about right
Sonic's animation in this game looks like a modern remaster of 'Sonic Blast' for the game gear.
Please never stop using DK screaming as he falls off the Minecart track, funny af.
@yoshimallow
Жыл бұрын
How many times has he used it?
Seeing alex have skullgirls in his steam library was the biggest case of whiplash I wasn't expecting, also spark the electric jester 1-3 vid when?.
10:41 genuinely some of the most nauseating gameplay ever, "ah yes let's take the already dizzying special stage from sonic 1 and make it WORSE"
7:39 best part in this video
2:11 this is the most Canadian thing mans has ever said, and I love it
Thank you for reminding me that Kid Pix 3 existed Alax. That game was stored in the back of my brain until now. Gotta admit, you are one of the few KZreadrs that hits specific niche interests and styles of humor that I like.
I unfortunately played this when i was a kid and i remember this game clearly. The fondest memory i have with it is when i stopped playing the game and started playing with my hotwheels cars
Reminder when this game was releasing it advertised itself as "Screw Sonic friends we hate them too". And fans back then loved this game because of that. This stigma Sonic fans had with his friends was something else.
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
I could see why. In most 2000's Sonic games, the fast Sonic levels were the best parts, but were constantly interrupted by the other characters.
@V-Jes
Жыл бұрын
@Vivid Color, and Rich Audio! Or in same games like Adventure 2 be over 2/3 of the game...
@KgEclispe252
Жыл бұрын
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 I can understand that. But at that time it just felt like Sonic fans never even wanted their friends to appear in no capacity it was ludicrous when you think about it.
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
@@KgEclispe252 I wouldn't really say it was the fans, mostly the critics. It explains why episode 1 had decent reception.
@KgEclispe252
Жыл бұрын
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 I would argue it was also the fans who believe these same critics back then. I remember seeing a parody trailer about Sonic 4 and the whole joke around was that storytelling and Sonic friends are the problem we just want Sonic and that's it. I get it Sonic 06 but still it's ridiculous that it was blamed solely on that instead of Sega being incompetent.
0:18 my honest reaction to Sonic The Hedgehog 4
You’re editing skills are unmatched. Every joke hits
Your channel was blessed by the algorithm, and I'm glad. What a gem of a channel.
If you could, I think a good sonic game to cover is sonic and the black knight. Because someone looked at sonic and said “You know, this is good, but you know what it needs? Arthurian mythos.” And than sega did that.
10:48 you know when someone is watching Scott ot the woz
one of my friends FORCED me to play this game like a year ago and I couldn't forget about this game IT CHANGED ME MAN IT HURTS TO THIS DAY THE SONG OF THE BONUS LEVELS STILL PLAYS ON REPEAT IN MY NIGHTMARES
He’s low key committed to use the Donkey Kong Country mine cart clip on every video this season huh?
12:08 Super Sonic Is invincible and 2x faster Still dies from being crushed, drowning or falling in a bottomless pit
Adding all the irl video clips like you moving and wrapping yourself in tin foil is fire af it perfectly adds character to the video
@1978ScArTiSsUe2010
Жыл бұрын
Cling film
10:19 killed me
@splashmanej3
4 ай бұрын
were you sonic
I used to play the mobile version of this on tablet, and… yeah, this looked and functioned WAY better when my brain was the size of a gerbil.
idk why the "i didnt throw up i swear" killed me i love you relaxalaxalax
that sound he has been using at the beginning of each video since his comeback is so satisfying
5:29 ah yes, sideways Australia.
@baneck8627
Жыл бұрын
Peru
I always forget this one. I remember a lot of the side games like Chronicles, Shuffle and Spinball. But this one always slips my mind.
0:50 Average mega collection enjoyer ❤
It really does look like it was made by Scott Cawthon, very appropriate timing Alax
Considering the mobile version of all two-and-a-half episodes still exists I don’t think they’re trying very hard to make you forget
3:46 HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT IS You’ve resurrected a memory I’d lost long ago…
I am suddenly possessed by the urge to go back and play Ultimate Flash Sonic
I love seeing all of Alax's entrances at the beginning of every video. It just makes my Thursdays 😁
9:32 we got starved eggman XD
@SqweegeeYT
Жыл бұрын
“You don’t even know your own fate, hedgehog.”
This was a nightmare. Can't wait for episode 2! 😉
I was already feeling kinda sick today so when the special stage came up I had to legit look away!
i remember being so excited as a kid for games like Colors and 4 that even though i knew deep down inside that something was seriously wrong as i played them, i still told myself "no this is- this is FANTASTIC! no yeah im really enjoying just... holding boost... and hearing baldy mcnosehair... y-yeah these games are great!!! Sonic cant be beat!!!" man i was in SUCH denial that i genuinely had no idea how much i actually fucking despise these games in reality until Cybershell told me for me lmfao 6:55 genuinely has my jaw on the floor. i cannot believe this is a real game. what. the. fuck. is THAT.
@chiron540
8 ай бұрын
Can Sonic fans bring up anything else aside from "Baldy McNosehair" when talking about this game's story please? Also the "holding boost" argument doesn't make any sense since Colors is the most platforming heavy boost game. Did you even play the game for more than the first few levels?
@adamcarr5997
2 ай бұрын
Colours*
When I went back and played 06 and Shadow, I loved them. This game was a different story.
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
If you can tolerate 2006's abysmal hub world, or the fetch quests in Shadow, you should have no problem with Sonic 4.
@Eevee860
10 ай бұрын
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 No, 06's hub worlds are easy if you know where to go, you're barely ever in them, and shadow's quests aren't bad, they're all extremely easy and usually just involve not ignoring the entire level, the "kill all enemy" quests are something you always do in one run except for the one on the nonlinear ark stage
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
10 ай бұрын
@@Eevee860 "The hubworlds are easy if you've preemptively memorized the entire thing" yeah, that's the problem.
The thumbnail is simple, beautiful, and yet funny. I had to stop for a moment to appreciate this thumbnail
The fact that Sonic Mania's intro COMPLETELY IGNORES the existence of Sonic 4 tells you everything you need to know
2:46 I never thought being Texan felt that dirty. Not that I am (I'm from Chile), but the feelin' is just the same.
These intros are just so… no words to describe it honestly
Bro I never played episode one but as a kid I had so much fun playing episode two with my friend...on mobile I would love to see you talk about that
"his run cycle looks like a shitty burger king toy" fuckin amazing
Alax making weekly bangers is now a ingrained part of my Thursday.
I am officially starting my addiction to Alax's sense of comedic timing 👍
Sonic Mania opening acknowledged Sonic CD as the true Sonic 4 Remember that
The fact that they tried to hide the fact that Sonic is a 3D model using ultra high contrast and pixelation makes my brain want to implode. Like, it's so painfully obvious with the world map and Sonic himself being 3D that they wanted the levels to be fully 3D modeled but they just gave up before they even started.
I can’t forget about this game because this was my first sonic game; bought it on the wii ware. It was 15 dollars; the biggest problem for it for me was the price. It is just 4 zones and the special stages. Looking back on it I just found the fact that I was playing a classic-feeling sonic game to be fun, with no context of the originals. Looking back on it today this game and episode 2 has aged like milk.
alax i showed new soup to my piano teacher cuz it’s such a bop and he loved it 🙂
I saw the dumbnail and thought "oh, that's sonic Caos or sonic triple trouble"
8:00 These enemies are actually from Sonic 2, you dingus.
3:43 *…Don’t do that, don’t compare a good game to a bad game* *FNaF World deserves better than to be compared to Sonic Rehash 4*
@yahyayazgi
10 ай бұрын
THATS WHAT I AM SAYING!
I'm lmfao over the "when people say "I'm making a walkthrough" I don't think they mean this"
Geez man the editing on this one is insane!
This was a VERY weird time to be a Sonic fan. Looking back on this period now feels like a fever dream.
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
2010 was one of the best times to be a Sonic fan. The 3d games finally started doing well.
@lafbkhope5391
Жыл бұрын
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 Good joke lol. Colors DS and Generations were like only good games in the 2010+. And the writing, oh God the writing in the 2010+ games are just beyond atrocious. The stories are laughable and everyone's character was massacred into oblivion. Doesn't help that the new voice actors are horrible.
@vividcolorandrichaudio6134
Жыл бұрын
@@lafbkhope5391 Have you considered removing your nostalgia goggles? Also, if you want *real* atrocious writing, go replay Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and Sonic 2006.
@traviscunningham7062
11 ай бұрын
I rather play Mario Galaxy 2 and Mario 3D Land over Colors and Generations. Mario>>>>>>>>>Sonic
I’m am here to say that the real Sonic 4, Sonic Superstars has been shown off today for the first time and it looks SOOOOO GOOOD!
i think the worst thing they did with this game, is call it sonic 4 because of that, the chances of we ACTUALLY getting a good sonic 4 to replace this, is almost zero
love seeing what your gonna do for the intro each time!
4:10 the way he says that is very funny
Every water level in gaming at 6:25
bro this is totally one of the best fucking thumbnails i've seen in the history of youtube
Sonic Rush is one you should look into. I had fun with it on my DS back in the day
I wanna take a guess on the compiled renders at 2:05 So his head is a Sonic and the Secret Rings render used to promote the game and all that The hand feels very Unleashed like And the body is possibly from Sonic Rush?
@creepycreeper1112
Жыл бұрын
Hand is rivals
3:32 fun fact the mobile version of sonic 4 ep 1 actually fixes sonics lighting and it lookes 100 times better than deep fried sonic The game still isn’t the best though
I don't know why but the " those are real bicycle ass playing cards" got me ngl😂
Banger video as always! Also, it would be cool if in your next video (assumingly on Sonic 4 Episode II) you briefly mention about Sonic 4 Episode I's Mobile Port, which is immensely better in a graphical and character movement standpoint. Love your weekly uploads, Alax
7:00 lmao
12:13 Am I the only one who actually likes episode 2?
@lindadaher4859
10 ай бұрын
nope it's *WAAAAAAAAAAAY* better then episode 1 and it's pretty fun
two things. one: I liked the music in Episode 1? Don't really know why. two, I ONLY remember the final boss of Episode 1, but I remember enjoying episode 2. It at least felt like it tried a little harder, and I enjoyed beating up Metal again.
You made so many references to FNAF I'm convinced this is a FNAF game and not a sonic game
@larhyperhair
Жыл бұрын
@Nam Gge he's priming us like Disney channel with finding nemo
God you're striking me right in my nostalgia by not reviewing the second one
4:07 The Ed Edd n’ Eddy SFX kinda jumped me since I was writing for my EEnE fanfiction series while listening to this
1:48 I didn't know Midoriya was a Sonic fan boy too.🤣
7:33 That was the best ytpmv ever😭😭
I remember being so hyped for this in 2010, then completely forgot about it.
1:22 I remember I got Generations, Adventure 1 and 2 and Sonic 3 for $11 on a sale
I'm so glad you're back, every video since you came back has been a banger. Missed you fr
At least the music was good as always, even though it'd sound better with actual genesis instruments, in fact there is an official version of the 1st boss theme with genesis instruments, and it's for sonic 3D blast.
0:35 YES IT IS