Billy needs a producer, for years he's needed someone in the room telling him it's just not interesting enough. Because it's not terrible music, it's just boring now.

You would have given this a 10 if it had 10 acts

Anthony, the Smashing Pumpkins disbanded 20 years ago. Why are you reviewing a fake Smashing Pumpkins album that doesn't exist

It’s a shame watching a band that shaped my young life fade out.

The Smashing Pumpkins can drop 10 more duds and I will still see them as legends for their 90’s output

You only hate this album because Billy Corgan stole your hairstyle Fantano. Admit it.

the decline from Oceania has been so steep. i can’t remember a smashing pumpkins release i’ve enjoyed in the past 10 years 😢

Mellon Collie was over 2 hours but the music and performances were amazing. The songs all felt different but the album felt cohesive. This album pushes all that ambition into overindulgence.

Billy Corgan & the Infinite Bad Album Streak

so this means that each disc got a point. hear me out, if they dropped a ten-disc album exactly like this, then they'll get a 10 - 10/10 trust me

part of the issue is Billy trying to write all these big brain concepts about gods and empires and whatever the fuck my uncle Tony likes to rant about at Thanksgiving dinner, when he's best at writing at a personal level. A few of the recent songs that explore personal feelings-- Silvery Sometimes, Being Beige, Tiberius, Solara, and the whole of Oceania-- are pretty good.

If this was a rock opera in 199 acts, you would’ve given it a 10.

Glad to see others here giving a strong defense of Machina. Their most underrated album by far. It’s one of the last original rock records I’ve ever heard. They managed to take the gloom and production of something like adore with the eccentricity and energy of Mellon collie and take it all somewhere new. I’ll say, the one disc cut they were forced to put out by the record company doesn’t flow the strongest as an album, but the content of it is fantastic, especially with I and II consumed together. Amazing beautiful creative songs. I’m excited this new album is out finally mostly just because Billy said after it, they’re finally re-releasing Machina the way they actually wanted to in the beginning, as a double concept album.

“A starway to the stars” sounds like it’s a Corey Feldman lyric. And it would probably sound better if it was.

Lol, I actually didn’t expect Anthony to review another smashing pumpkins record like this. He hasn’t done that since Oceania.

Bald on bald violence 😂

Billy is truly his worst enemy, and I’ll never forgive him for inexplicably firing the previous lineup of the band that recorded Oceania, which was a actually very good and promising

Thank you melon for acknowledging that Adore is actually a pretty decent album with really good songs

I agree with the thoughts on atum, but Machina 1 and 2 don’t deserve to be called non essential. Criminally underrated, the sorta thing that needs to be listened to a couple times to really “get”, but once you hear through all the layers you’ll notice how great the songs are. sonically id even argue it might be their most interesting work. Love how it blends beautiful atmospheric shoegazey stuff with heavy cyber metal jams

As a Pumpkins fan, this album was so disappointing. It’s a shame that Billy can’t get away from the heavy synth pop rock. This record makes Oh So Shiny seem like a great album.