TIMESTAMPS BELOW, including brand new stories. Obviously there's a lot more, so I may have to make a Part 2. What was one of the sketchiest things you’ve experienced in the NBA?? 0:17 The Game the NBA WANTS you to forget (BRAND NEW) 6:26 5 Buzzer Beaters the League Got WRONG 13:04 When the NBA Used It’s Abusive Power (Updated) 23:12 When the NBA ROBBED the Suns 32:15 How the NBA and Media are SCREWING Jerry West 43:07 The 5 Most Underserving MVPs 51:51 5 NBA Finals with an Asterisk 01:00:29 How the NBA ROBBED Scottie Pippen

@qzurx

6 ай бұрын

you made a mistake. kings did win a title back in 1951

@qzurx

6 ай бұрын

2015, 2020 and 2002 are the only finals that should have asterisks. 2015 the cavilers should of won that. the 2020 finals shouldn't of even existed. last year's finals should of been the 2020 finals instead. the 2002 finals should of went to a game 7. the nets getting swept by a team who was rigged to be there, seems fishy.

@jonnyarnett

6 ай бұрын

@qzurx I specified their Sacramento history, and that championship was 3 decades before they were in Sac. Maybe I could have worded it better though

@qzurx

6 ай бұрын

@@jonnyarnett yeah but they still won just like how okc won a title but they won as the supersonics but yes you could've.

@GiriRam

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Jonny for this video 👍

All of those phantom fouls called on the Kings proved that series was rigged.

@nicksamp515

6 ай бұрын

Most rigged game in history.

@SeeThomasHowl

6 ай бұрын

Absolutely. This was around the time I stopped watching the NBA religiously. That Kings team is one of my favorite teams of all time. It was a heartbreaker

@Bigguy5588

6 ай бұрын

I mean yea but the kings missed like 40 free throws.

@jxmmykriminallive

6 ай бұрын

@@SeeThomasHowl you deprived yourself of consistently watching 20 years of great basketball because you was in your feelings about one playoff series 🤡

@earlthepearl6414

6 ай бұрын

The amount of free throws they missed is irrelevant.@@Bigguy5588

Oh the famous big three of Kobe, Shaq and David Stern.😂

@jonathank786

5 ай бұрын

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@TheJuice_1995

5 ай бұрын

💀💀💀💀

@vionaking4531

2 ай бұрын

This narrator has moments where his opinion takes over

@TheJuice_1995

2 ай бұрын

@@vionaking4531 ok buddy we all know David stern was fingering his but whole to the lakers winning. You, I, every other human who watched the nba in the early 00’s knew that the lakers got every call

@melanatedgod5337

2 ай бұрын

Facts!

The whole situation with Jerry West is really sad and pathetic. i cant beleivee the treatment he has recieved. You summed the whole overall picture up beautifully. Thank You.

@GrumpyCat-mw5xl

5 ай бұрын

I have to suspect it’s because of his skin color. At this time The country media leans towards anti white sentiment. There shouldn’t be anti any race sentiment.

@oscarpena00op

4 ай бұрын

The fact that Lebron chosen over Jerry 😒

@mmclaurin8035

4 ай бұрын

If Jerry West was black, there wouldn't be nearly so much controversy

@patriciap4095

4 ай бұрын

​@@mmclaurin8035Making this a race thing is pretty pathetic.

@ignoblesavage5559

4 ай бұрын

​@@mmclaurin8035 uh, OK, I'll pick up a stick and play. If Jerry West was black, he would likely be a LOT more highly regarded as a player.

27 freee throws in the 4th quarter is insane

@layuponthedownlow

2 ай бұрын

Bcoz of Nike's cash cow kobe bryant

@neezduts_

2 ай бұрын

@@layuponthedownlowdon’t forget Shaq.. he was far more profitable at the time

@Youngkel95

2 ай бұрын

@@layuponthedownlowsame with lebron vs the warriors 😂

@darksaint0124

Ай бұрын

27 free throws in the 4th quarter will never be insane on a team with Shaq. Teams fouled him purposely to stop the clock and send him to the line during his entire career.

@layuponthedownlow

Ай бұрын

@@darksaint0124 quit riding kobe's dxxk mayn. The guy dead already. Let him rest in peace 🙏

This video is SUPERB & the Jerry West segment is SPECIAL . This should urge the Lakers to change their attitude & this video should be played at his funeral.

@SNOW_MAN_175

5 ай бұрын

Nah Fr.

David stern turned the NBA into entertainment like pro wrestling.

@Romanus-

5 ай бұрын

Yep. Silver continued that trend.

@trugee5848

4 ай бұрын

Exactly.. wrestling has made millions and people know it's fake/scripted..once sports owners start to realize they could control the narrative and bring in millions of dollars from it..things got ugly...it's business.

@sbrooks904

4 ай бұрын

and literally saved the league doing so

@ganiniii

3 ай бұрын

​@@sbrooks904 how is that saving the league is beyond me. Being european I hate that logic because its false. We have the same here with football. Benfica in Portugal is majorly benefitted, Barcelona in Spain has the same kind of benefits. Corruption alters and kills sport doesn't make it better.

@jeffrey.a.hanson

2 ай бұрын

@@sbrooks904People don’t realize how he took basketball from a localized ‘NHL’ to an international phenomenon. Brilliantly tying it into early hip hop culture. Nobody is saying ‘improved the sport’, but we have the legendary Jordan 1’s, the Questions, Reebok Pumps, Air Flight Ones, VC’s Shox, etc because of Stern. It took time, but he became a brilliant marketer who put through NBA on the national stage with massive TV deals.

Wow. I just realized that Tim Donaghy took the dreams of my best friend and flushed them down the toilet. In 2002, we had no idea. He passed away about 4 years later, never seeing Sacramento win it all and never knowing they only lost to the Lakers due to cheating. I'm sorry, Jeremy. I wish we could've seen it happen, my brother. Rest in Peace 🙏❤️

I remember when they released the greatest 75 player list a bunch of players and personalities had a draft to pick guys from the list and a few wild cards... It was shaq barkley reggie sue bird a celebrity and a social media guy i think, cant really recall all of them but Jerry said at one point kinda unnoticed something like "this was really fun, i hope you guys do this again for the top 100 players but i prolly won't be around for that" and it was just heart breaking, he really loves basketball and the fact that the thing he loves isnt returning the favor is just rough to deal with

@legendarywiimaster

4 ай бұрын

AD over Dwight is stupid

@melanatedgod5337

2 ай бұрын

​@@legendarywiimastervery stupid. AD shouldn't have even been considered. He ain't did diddly squat compared to Dwight.

75% of this video SHOULD BE about the Lakers

@bryanscanlan2287

6 ай бұрын

Coming from the Celtics fan lmao

@christopherr3676

6 ай бұрын

​@bryanscanlan2287 I'm a knicks fan and even stevie wonder can see the lakers benefit way more than any franchise

@newnamek96

6 ай бұрын

Stern loved 3 things Money The Lakers And Shaquille O'Neal

@ikhoonyejelem2967

6 ай бұрын

Relax buddy

@ItsMeStrider

6 ай бұрын

Why are they booing you? You're right.

MJ would never disrespect Mr West.

@Romanus-

5 ай бұрын

Nope. He respected the game. how can you respect basketball and not respect the logo? Ridiculous

@IblewuponyourfaceIII

4 ай бұрын

He literally called Larry Bird a Bitch on camera… & used to bury Jerry Krause every chance he got. You think Michael who was heavily protected by David Stern & the whole system wouldn’t if he could? Lmao Michael is your Jesus

@sharkyshark6760

2 ай бұрын

Kanye west ?

@KingstonDope

Ай бұрын

@@sharkyshark6760Yes. And MJ is Micheal Jackson

Loved what you had to say about Jerry West as a 31 year old black male that constantly here’s about unathletic white players from that era. I also had no idea about the foul on Hubert Davis by Pippen in the playoffs. Great work!

@michaelw6277

5 ай бұрын

Yeah that’s wild and hugely disrespectful to every great player from the era. If you’re good when monsters like Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell are in the game then you’re good and I can’t believe this has to be argued.

@user-eo3gz7ve3y

5 ай бұрын

Jerry West is in his 80s and he is definitely not black lol

@lukewormholes5388

5 ай бұрын

@@user-eo3gz7ve3y I believe you misunderstood the OP

@3243_

Ай бұрын

Another African-American man who agrees with the original post.

To sum up the video, David Stern was a terrible Commissioner since all of this controversy happened under his watch. Him rigging in favor of the Lakers in the early 2000s, his paranoia after the malice in the palace, his fear of the small market teams boycotting the NBA with just a single trade really cost a lot of history-changing events that would've affected legacies of many all-time greats. Imagine if the Kobe-Shaq duo didn't three-peated, Cwebb a champion and squash his negative post-season stigma, Nash being a champion after a controversial b2b MVPs, Kobe being a part of a modern superteam with a possibility of facing the Miami superteam led by one of his rivals, LeBron.

@bricefleckenstein9666

6 ай бұрын

Stern was a better league GM than that moron Silver. I grant that's "damning with no praise whatsoever".

@HOGISIMJAYUN

6 ай бұрын

GM?

@reimixo

6 ай бұрын

Webb would be discussed alongside Dirk imo Nash would be ahead of guys like Kidd Payton and stockton probably

@nicksamp515

6 ай бұрын

@@reimixo Cwebb most probably be in the convo of the top 5 pf's, and Nash probably be in the top 20 all-time discussion. Kobe and Shaq's legacy is also interesting if they only managed to win 4 (kobe) and 3 (shaq) respectively.

@reimixo

6 ай бұрын

@@nicksamp515 shaq could be out of the top 10

Watching the 06 finals as a kid had a major impact on me as a kid. It’s what got me to start questioning everything. That series was a complete joke. The nba is a disservice to the game of basketball

@steviechampagne

5 ай бұрын

NBA and the other major sports leagues are turning into sports “entertainment”, sort of like WWE wrestling. They “rig” the outcomes of games to ensure maximum tv ratings and viewer engagement. Make the games more exciting

@loud7460

3 ай бұрын

Bro ade legit got fouled

@gilaxia

3 ай бұрын

@@steviechampagne exactly my point. well done Stevie

@melanatedgod5337

2 ай бұрын

​@@loud746090 plus free throws? Stop it bruh. No he didn't.

@legendarywiimaster

2 ай бұрын

@@loud7460sure games 3 and 5. Only got eight fts in game 4. However, there is no way you can convince me that game 6 wasn’t rigged to the ground

As a lifelong Lakers fan that had the honor of witnessing Jerry West play for much of his Lakers career I can attest to his greatness. Had there been a 3 point line Jerry would have easily averaged 35 + ppg for his career. He was by far the best defensive 2 in the league, always guarding the opponents best guard or small forward in addition to putting up 30 points night in and night out.

@gregoryadair4932

3 ай бұрын

Jerry West, a man among men in my book and without the Racism. Much Respect!!!

a major part of the chris paul trade veto is that the nba was desperate to find an owner for the small market hornets team. vetoing the cp3 likely helped to convince tom benson to purchase the organization in the subsequent summer.

@newthrash1221

5 ай бұрын

Obviously. The NBA technically owned the Hornets, so idk why it was so confusing to Johnny on why David Stern vetoed the trade; why would an owner trade a superstar for peanuts.

@drkdze

5 ай бұрын

That's definitely what it was about. The league wouldn't have been able to sell the team if they ransacked it! Plus the Lakers were trying to get CP3 for a bag of peanuts and not give anything of value to the Hornets so they cancelled the deal! But the Lakers conspiracy theorist will tell you they did it to stop Kobe from winning. SMH

@jimsangreal7663

5 ай бұрын

Don't forget the contracts the Hornets were taking on. If I recall correctly, people were upset because the Hornets were not only giving up the best player, they were also taking on much more salary and some of those contracts were only for one year, meaning the Hornets could have walked away with far less than what it looked like on paper if those players didn't resign. Even if Gasol and Odom stuck around New Orleans (a big if), the trade gave the Lakers cap space and pretty much ruined the Hornets' cap space.

@ryanhumor

5 ай бұрын

That’s understandable and I get it from a corporate perspective. However, as an nba fan, I don’t like it.

@justinadams159

2 ай бұрын

This was one of the worst potential trades, and the league knew that it would decimate the value of the Hornets as well as give the Lakers the chance to run the gauntlet for the next five years and probably stack three or four championships, which would’ve discouraged all of the small market teams at that time who were trying to break through.

76ers vs Bucks 2001 ECF and Lakers vs Kings WCF also in the 2000's was some of the shadiest and rigged officiating I've ever seen. I feel like that whole early 2000's era was very shady the league clearly wanted the Lakers vs a major East Coast city every year for the finals especially after the Bulls and Michael Jordan were no more.

@nicksamp515

6 ай бұрын

Yes. The league is desperate on who would be the face of the NBA after the goat's stint with the bulls. Stern was really pushing for the Shaq and Kobe to be the new faces of the league, but sadly they had a feud. Add in the controversy of Kobe and the NBA instead hyped LeBron tremendously to be the new face of the league.

@joshuabryant9845

6 ай бұрын

Well Philly had AI and AI was ironically (they didn't like his style at first and punished him) one of the most marketable players ever. Everyone loved em. Dude had white kids wearing rows in 01 rocking the sleeve and headband

@goticogordo

6 ай бұрын

and with the insane bad luck the celtics had in the late 80s and entire 90s, so no lakers vs celtics narrative for a long time, they had to get creative with the rigging, it was pretty clear

@russellst.martin4255

5 ай бұрын

Yep, the Sixers Bucks shenanigans seems to have been historically overshadowed by the Lakers Kings debacle. People may scoff at this, but the Bucks were 8-0 vs the top 4 in the West in 2001. I don't think they would've beaten the Lakers, but I believe they would've given them a better series than Philly. The irony.

@nevalelapena

5 ай бұрын

Put also the Lakers series with Portland the next year I think

Man....as a kid I loved that Kings team...still do. They never won but it sure was fun watching Sacramento go against LA and the western conference. Good memories!

@universityofpassiveincome

4 ай бұрын

Yeh that team was so fun to watch. Stacked with so much offense.

Jerry West and Bob Cousy had timeless games that would translate to any era! Fans should respect these great players!

Anthiny Davis' reaction go Jokic's 3pt going in will never get old.. You can FEEL the hopelessness

@Romanus-

5 ай бұрын

It’s amazing to watch😂

NBA,nfl,mlb,nhl,soccer,boxing,mma…At least wwe ADMITS it’s sports entertainment 😂

The idea that Kobe would've quit at 6 when he could've gone for 7 is the dumbest thing I've heard today

@sirashley2355

2 ай бұрын

lol this started a huge argument last Christmas during the annual MJ vs Lebron debate. I'm always going to ride with my wildcard pick. we won't allow Kobe slander or omission around these parts

@ricardosierra749

2 ай бұрын

Indubitably💯

@user-bq5vd6ch5d

24 күн бұрын

Ya but watching him chase number six was uglier then a helicopter crash

As a Dallas fan the 2006 finals were absolutely infuriating. Still makes my blood boil. At least we got them back in 2011…. Which is never mentioned as the most unlikely nba championship but should absolutely be number one.

@willemdafuck

3 ай бұрын

Me too. Sickening.

@ricardosierra749

2 ай бұрын

DAM STRAIGHT, IT AINT FITTING!!! THEN IT FIT!! 💯

27 freethrows in the 4th quarter. Let that sink in.

JJ Reddick insulting Jerry West was terrible. He played the same game, but worse. Jerry West and JJ's game were identical, except that Jerry was better at doing it than JJ in every way, and he played defense.

@absolutevalue23

5 ай бұрын

ehh I don't think that's an accurate comp. i love JJ but West was in a completely different stratosphere. also, did JJ insult Jerry West? Wasn't he talking about the players in Bob Cousy's era? Cousy played a generation before West mostly, and JJ was only talking about the competition. He wasn't wrong, but that doesn't take anything away from how good a guy was. Can't blame him for being years and years ahead of the curve.

@mikemck4796

5 ай бұрын

It’s funny, because you argued JJ’s point. He’d a mid tier at best player in the modern era. But a guy with his same skill set dominated the league in his era because the competition sucked. It’s a silly debate imo, but I don’t think you argued what you think you did.

@jacobbell8171

4 ай бұрын

​@@mikemck4796West was much more than just a shooter like JJ

@xylynthian753

4 ай бұрын

What people don't realize is players are products of their environment. Players had to work full time jobs in the offseason to make up for the league's shit pay. I'm sure they would've loved to have dedicated everything to basketball, but they had bills to pay and families to feed. Not only that, but the rules were extremely strict. You had to dribble with your palm on top of the ball or the refs would call it a carry every time. Pretty much every modern dribble move would be a carry back then. Travelling was just as strict.There was no restricted area, so offensive fouls could be called right under the rim. Players had literally 0 freedom on offense back then compared to today. They did the best they could with the bullshit they were handed, and it's unfair to disrespect them for circumstances out of their control. What people need to understand is that JJ, as well as any player, would've had to adhere to the same strict rules in West's era. He would've had to sacrifice time for training to get a summer job to survive because the league didn't pay players enough. More than that JJ's impact would be minimal in era where every shot was worth the same. Without his 3's, what did he really do? He wasn't a defender, a rebounder, a dribbler, or a passer. He wasn't even the best shooter in his generation. That'd be Ray Allen. Not even the shooting role player either. That'd go to Kyle Korver. It's the dudes like Jerry West who had to threaten strikes and fight the league for every dollar they deserved so that the ones like Magic and Bird could make a real living off the league, dedicate themselves to the games and push it to new levels. They had to endure and sacrifice so that clowns like JJ could sit there and run their fucking mouth without a damn clue about the history of the sport they get paid to talk about. In fact, that's the whole issue with NBA culture. Too many ignorant fools who think they know everything when they barely know anything.

@Nobody1mportant999

3 ай бұрын

​@@xylynthian753all valid points but one I love to bring up is that players back then didn't train from the time they were toddlers to be NBA Stars like they are now.

Omg can’t disagree more about Bill Russell’s mvp. He put up an 11.6 defensive win share that year which would have been a record. Best defensive player ever deserves a nod

@mymountrushmore6235

6 ай бұрын

Was also voted on by the players in the league which all saw Bill as the better player

Playing with Kobe and CP3 would've been Dwight's worst nightmare.

Giving Jerry West his flowers got me fighting tears in the gym. 😭

The kings were definitely the best team that year and they absolutely got screwed over.

It’s probably the the 6ers finals run that was the sketchiest to me

Appreciate you putting the 07 Suns. In my lifetime that was by far the best and funnest Suns team I've witnessed. It was the only year I watched nearly every single game with my Dad. Suns offense was such a high tempo they would fast break and score so quick before it was the norm. I personally didn't feel our defense had improved.. The solution to lousy defense was more offense. Off the top of my head at least at the time the Suns and Mavericks both went on long winning streaks during the regular season, the Suns got snapped right before 20 games and the Mavericks ended up breaking the record pretty sure 26 games. Not only did the suspensions take place for Stoudemire and Diaw, but during the series it was clear as day which side the refs were favoring. I can still remember a play clear as day where Nash went up for a layup on a fast break only to get absolutely pummeled (basically tackled) and they didn't even call a foul.

Jordan laughing always gets me 😂 it's my favourite. The timing is always on point.

The 2006 Finals is the most rigged finals series in all of the major sports in America.

A universe where Scottie Pippen seven peated would have been insane

@ItsMeStrider

6 ай бұрын

Ngl pippen fans would scream his goat case until the end of time if that happened.

@petermuchiri6631

6 ай бұрын

7 peated how when there were two seasons between the Bulls 3 peats? Furthermore, if they reached the finals he would have been swept by Hakeem

@wem_iii

6 ай бұрын

@@petermuchiri6631 "An Imaginary Universe that DOES NOT exist where Scottie Pippen seven peated would have been insane"

You are by far offering the BEST content with regards to NBA👍🏾 your argument for Jerry West not being recognized was stellar! Keep up the outstanding work. I would recommend your channel to anyone who loves basketball!! This is the best one you've ever done.

@Maximillian200HP

5 ай бұрын

Jerry being disrespected left and right is a crock of shit. People in the NBA community owe him so much.

The Chris Paul. Trade block was the shadiest moment in history, they had just let LeBron assemble his team but stopped Kobe

I watched every second of that kings and lakers series in 2002. It was the worst officiated game in history and everyone could tell the kings were being robbed. The refs weren't even trying to hide it

breakdown of the lakers/paul debacle was unmatched. extremely well done, bro.

Love these long videos, thanks for the consistent content 👍👍

The disrespect for Hakeem is ridiculous.

@Ghostface1980

2 ай бұрын

Yup, especially with all the idiots that thought that Scottie Quitten had a chance at the winning the MVP over Hakeem and beating the Rockets in the Finals.

I’m a big fan of Bryant myself but this was one of the LARGEST stretches to try to prop up his career vs Jordan I’ve ever seen. LOL.

That kings team was loaded I think they cook the 2016 warriors tbh

You know something that stands out to me? The number of events that Robert Horry is connected to. He was the 3 point shot for Lakers over Kings and he hip checked Nash. People say the players aren't in on these riggings but IDK, seems suspect.

@claytongibbs7419

5 ай бұрын

So your saying the NBA the refs and Horry coluded to take Kobes 3 away so Horry could make a game winner on purpose but they also coluded with Horry to miss on purpose so they could freeze the clock for Shaq to get the game winner.

@claytongibbs7419

5 ай бұрын

Your also thinking they told Horry to foul Nash hard when it strategically makes sense and while Stoudemeyer is on the bench. All this for the chance to suspend Stoudemeyer if he steps off the bench. Maybe Horry just played on the Lakers during the time when NBA leadership used officiating to influence the outcome of games.

@unkledoda420

4 ай бұрын

Don't believe every half baked conspiracy theory you read on the internet. It's good to keep an open mind just not so open that your brain falls out.

The Jerry West disrespect is nuts and then making a tv show mocking him very poor taste.

Tim has no reason to lie about the kings/lakers series

This was an excellent video. I agree 100 percent with everything you put forward. New sub earned here my friend.

39:04 Jerry SHOULD have been offended - not #1 on that list, but hands down Top 5 - not just as a player, but as a Front Office person! What I really want to know is how Laimbeer managed to avoid this video?

David Stern: "I'm not here to make friends, I'm here to make money."

44:00 you are right. It’s criminal that Donic didn’t win MVP in the last 4 years. Dude is the best player I’ve seen since LeBron left his prime.

Even Lakers fans knew as it was happening that that series with SAC was rigged. It just boggles me how arguably the best duo in the sport had to cheat their way to a ring.

@louiedajet

5 ай бұрын

You’re talking about a town that is fake, Hollywood is nothing but fantasies. They wanted the prestige of the Bulls in the 90’s but saw how hard it was to win 3 in a row legit so they needed help.

West is by far the most underrated player ever

@quadexes

5 ай бұрын

wouldn’t even be in the nba today

@mymountrushmore6235

5 ай бұрын

@@quadexes what a dumb comment. He’d b a mega star today.

@quadexes

5 ай бұрын

@@mymountrushmore6235 lol yeah he’d totally compete with ja, curry, trae, sga like nah bro would get cooked every night

@mymountrushmore6235

5 ай бұрын

@@quadexes he had one of the highest verticals ever and was tied for the best Olympic high jumper in the world at the time. Yeah he would dominate any era. Imagine a much smarter Dwight Howard a taller faster better passing Ben Wallace. U have no idea what ur talking about

@mymountrushmore6235

5 ай бұрын

@@quadexes oh u were referring to West. West was made for today’s nba. Once again proving ur ignorance. He was a great two way player and one of the best shooters ever. Just watch him play and it’s easy to c how he would dominate today. Was just as athletic as anyone today

Great work on the vid. One of the best I've seen.

I have been a Magic fan since 1993, and an AZ Cardinals fan since 1998 for the NFL. Every single time I think about The Logo, I feel the NFL should have pulled an NBA, and given Larry Fitzgerald the MVP at Super Bowl 43. 127 yards and 2 TDs. It speaks for itself.

1:10 I remember this travesty; Bibby always seemed to peak when he faced the Lakers, while the Kings were blatantly robbed...

Chris Paul is crying while watching this video

8:21 Davis got that loud on deck like “ yo Mac, this for ya eyes, bruh”😂😂😂

Outstanding video. Thanks

what did my eyes just see? Young Kareem shooting fadeaways and middies?..had no clue he had that too...I might just put him ahead of Bron again on my list ...lol

I'm glad you brought up the '07 Finals. That was one of the most obnoxious & poorly officiated Finals I've ever seen. It turned me into a Heat hater for a while, just because it felt like the NBA was handing the series to Miami & trying to anoint Wade as its new face of the league.

The Jerry West disrespect is DISGUSTING. I watched him on Paul George's podcast; he's such a good guy.

53:21 Maybe not a co-star but Dellavedova had hustle that had 14 me and all of Cleveland thinking we could do it 😭

i like these long vids alot lol

@jonnyarnett

6 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!! People generally seem to like them, and they do well on the channel, so I'm working on doing more series that can eventually be put in a compilation :) The Ultimate Team compilation will be 5 hours long. lol

As a lifelong Lakers fan, I was mad for a long time about the CP3 trade being vetoed but i guess it's karma for 2002 vs the kings and 1988 vs the pistons. In the end the Lakers will forever be the best franchise love them or hate them.

Great work here - awesome content.

59:23 that Shaq face is perfect lol.

Just subbed

In a parallel universe, there would times when the correct calls were made. I can only imagine the ripple effect these calls would have made to the legacy of some of these legends.

@Barraind.Faylestar

4 ай бұрын

It wouldn't have done shit, really. If the NBA had to call everything as it should be, games would have ended 40-38 with 60 of those points coming off free throws and teams down to their last 5 on 5 by the end of the first quarter. So it wouldn't ever happen. Prime Shaq / current Jokic would foul out 4 guys in their first 24 touches.

The fact that the Toronto play wasn’t even awarded a do-over is purified corruption. Doesn’t even make sense to just end it.

How do grown people not know that all pro sports are rigged?

For people not quite old enough to remember that 2002 game 6 - this video understates it. It was the fishiest shit any of us had seen. Fans these days go mental over single missed/bad calls - that game 6 2002 (especially that 4th quarter) had about 20. It was disgusting. Everyone was shocked - not really shocked at what we were witnessing - but shocked at just how blatant this was. It was obvious the Lakers were getting everything. Not taking away from Shaq/Kobe - 2 of the absolute best players I’ve ever seen. The Kings were absolutely robbed

@melvynsngltn27

5 ай бұрын

Wrong game 5 was bs LA was robbed nobody ever brings that up

@fatboy5926

5 ай бұрын

@@melvynsngltn27 nah

@melvynsngltn27

5 ай бұрын

@fatboy5926 yeah they was

@fatboy5926

5 ай бұрын

@@melvynsngltn27 they really weren’t

@melvynsngltn27

5 ай бұрын

@@fatboy5926 baloney

There seems to be some who feel that the Cav’s undoubtedly the superior team in 2015 & 2016 but how could that be if they allow themselves to get down 3-1 in 2016 and their resurrection coincided with a game 5 where Bogut went down with an injury for the series and Draymond served his suspension for allowing himself to be baited into that last technical?

Thank you for this video this is exactly how I remember big shot bob

I was so disgusted by the abomination that was the league fixing games for the Lakers in the 2002 Western Conference Finals against the Kings I quit watching basketball for like 15 years. It was really sad to watch. And so many people just from watching the games knew something was really really wrong with the officiating. It was really sad.

Ahhh, another hour of Johnny Arnett.. life is good :)

I think the bigger asterisk during the "bubble bowl" has to do with the fact that Dragic and Adebayo both got injured in game 1. Dragic had been killer in those playoffs and was averaging like 20 ppg. Missing him for the series and Adebayo being out then coming back injured really killed the momentum the Heat had going into the series. It felt like their chances of winning pretty much tanked after that first game. In a way it was reminiscent of Lebron in 2015 losing his point guard and leading Big-man against the Warriors. Butler did his best to carry the team but ultimately did not have the help he needed. Without those injuries it would have been a different series. It's kind of funny that Lebron got beaten by the warriors on an injury-riddled team but then came back to win against a Heat team similarly hampered by injuries. Both in 6-game series too. I guess it's all even in a what-goes-around-comes-around kind of way. Still, if you mention the injuries that crippled the 2015 Cavs, I think it has to be noted that the Heat were similarly handicapped.

@quadexes

5 ай бұрын

LeGoat tho

55:59 to the ref defense, he did kinda bump his left arm. But he mostly just missed it

Skap, this is DOPE and take A LOT of hard work and editing ❤

Man I completely agree with your view on the cp3 trade. I was devastated by sterns. I detest him to this day for that. And I was at the game when Kobe tore the Achilles. The mamba was balling out and there’s no way they don’t win at least 1 ring together.

@melvynsngltn27

5 ай бұрын

Your joking if you believe that. Losing Gasol and Odom in that trade. LA would of fell apart faster

@Romanus-

5 ай бұрын

@@melvynsngltn27idk about that man

A Lakers fan crying about unfairness? That’s rich 😂

@Bigedub101

5 ай бұрын

Thinking same thing and glad they didn't get CP3

@awelch31

5 ай бұрын

I agree, but also disagree. If that makes sense. In that ONE instant, the league did overstep. His point still rings true, even though it was with the Lakers. Stopping that trade made no sense at all. And I’m a New Orleans fan, definitely not a Lakers guy.

bro be getting right into it 😂

How old are you? You gotta be in ya late 40’s

@conman8136

Күн бұрын

I think he’s like 36

I’m not even a Lakers fan but the league stepping in to block the CP3 trade because other owner were crying since they couldn’t attract superstars is wild asf 😭

It's a crime Jokic didn't get to three peat MVPs.

How does the 2020 title have an asterisk when all the play off teams had the same chance and opportunity to win in a level playing field? But we all know it's because LeBron won it

@patricktardif1742

2 ай бұрын

No because in the bubble they only invited a certain amount of teams. The teams that were in position at the time of season being shut down. I.e the Phoenix suns were on a 8 game win streak when season shut down, they were clearly making a run to be a playoff team. But they were not invited. So with the fact that the season was abruptly cut short, and certain contenders were cut out, the chip comes with an asterisk.

@petermuchiri6631

2 ай бұрын

@@patricktardif1742 😂😂 you have no idea what you are talking about. The Suns were indeed invited to the bubble where they went undefeated but still didn't make the playoffs. Did you really call a team under .500 a contender? You clearly know nothing about basketball!

The fact is Kobe could not accept not being the focal point of the offense (much less take less money so they could sign better talent) as his ability declined. This is why i think Duncan had the better career. Duncan was able to win in different eras with different styles of play to the point where he deferred offensively as he aged as well as taking pay cuts so the Spurs could keep the core roster together as well as sign free agents. Duncans leadership ability is what tips the scale for me.

@spacecity7136

3 ай бұрын

Kobe 4-2 against Spurs in playoffs

@elcochino8139

3 ай бұрын

@@spacecity7136 timmy never missed the playoffs. Or had a losing record. Kobe also had Shaq

@jlahooper2496

2 ай бұрын

Ima destroy your argument with this, both have 5 rings so everything counts in the debate and its close, kobe average more points than Duncan, more assist, more all defensive teams and all nba teams. Kobe was much more clutch than duncan and won more head to head battles, be beat em more in the playoffs, the 2008 wcf sealed it without shaq. Duncan made playoffs more consistently n had more consistent team success but big part of it was the spurs system. To top it off kobe was much more entertaining, much more unpredictable and his mindset was unmatched. Kobe would get the crowd up in their feet in the 4th quarter with 2 min left in the game while duncan would put ppl to sleep because as great as he was he was boring complete snoozefest, don't ever be disrespecting the great kobe. Kobe was better than Tim duncan sorry not sorry

@elcochino8139

2 ай бұрын

@@jlahooper2496 once again..Kobe had Shaq. And when he did have Shaq he was Robin. Shaq was Batman. Duncan never whined about his teammates not being good enough and Duncan never missed the playoffs. May have been boring but the results were better

@sdmurphy20

2 ай бұрын

​@jlahooper2496 that's right! 10 rings between the 2. 💪🏾

You should have a lot more views and subs. Well put together video!!

3:48bro is literally walking backwards lmaooo, the point of a screen is to not move and make the defense go around you not for them to drive you backwards 😂

this is exactly why kobe and shaq can’t be considered top 5 players they had so much help from the league to succeed no other players have had this much help to win championships

Its always funny to me when Kobe fans say LeBron's rings were rigged when the 2002 Lakers ring has literally been proven to be rigged

@facelessandnameless

6 ай бұрын

One game. You need 16 wins to win a title. Only one game that playoffs is controversial.

@sir_sack

6 ай бұрын

@@facelessandnameless and would the Lakers have gotten a chance to play another game if that game wasn't rigged?

@davis2k1234

5 ай бұрын

@@sir_sackWhich key player got suspended for calling someone the B Word on the Kings that series?? Actual great video of Kobe trying to calm down CWebb saying I don’t want to beat you guys short handed

@sir_sack

5 ай бұрын

@@davis2k1234 I'm referring to the officiating in game 6

@davis2k1234

5 ай бұрын

@@sir_sack I know but is a couple questionable calls worse then having a key player which draymond might have won FMVP that series suspended for a closeout home game?

95% of this video needs to be Kings Lakers 2002 Western Conference Finals. It is referred to as the Greatest Tragedy in Sports. During the games the announcers many times eluded to the games not being called right at all, way more than any series Before or Since. It is the only series to result in a Federal Jury indictment case for Game Fixing. So as far as I’m concerned, this topic starts and ends here.

Excellent video. Put it out there so people can shame the people who disrespect the legend.

Yes, the CP3 trade was shady. But for me, it was just karmic Justice. Cant name the times how often something shady worked out for the Lakers. Refs, Trades, Draft... strangely allways in favour of the Lakers over the last 60+ years.

@Mark-The-Tenor

6 ай бұрын

Exactly

@newthrash1221

5 ай бұрын

Maybe if your team won double digit championships, the commissioner would give af to rig it for your team as well. Imm sure all 17 of those Championships were rigged as well.

@Barraind.Faylestar

4 ай бұрын

"Fuck those guys for employing one of the best scouts to ever scout basketball"

@Smido83

4 ай бұрын

@@Barraind.Faylestar So scouts are the reason the Lakers jump up in the draft way more then most other teams? Or that Refs helped them more then once to get far in the PO? Tell je you are stupid, without telling me you are stupid.

Dude 22:45 thinking Kobe is anywhere near LeBron still in 2023 is ridiculous. There is at least one tier of players in between them on the all time rankings.

@Barraind.Faylestar

4 ай бұрын

Lol

49:05 😂😅Me n my pops both busted out laughing l.

new drinking game: take a shot when Jonny says “Hisssstery”

@jonnyarnett

5 ай бұрын

Mamba Mentality... as in the snake part. lmao

This video is over an hour long. Adam Silver...play in tournaments, gimmick mid season tournaments, they are not going to save the game. Everything in this video is what's killing/killed the NBA.

@andrius11

6 ай бұрын

And play in tournanent is b.s. just go back to regular 1-8 seeds.

I’m critical of Kobe’s game and time in the NBA but really appreciate everything he did during his time. He truely was a special player. That said, the only thing worse than Yankee fans and Dallas Cowboys fans are LAKERS fans. I swear the crying you guys do is ridiculous. Kobe had LOTS of help thought his career. If you give Duncan, Shaq for 5 years they ain’t losing a single ring. Yep… 03 was Kobe’s fault. Yes Kobe quit on his team. If he wanted to be like Mike then he could have worked with his team to make them better which he didn’t do. At that point in Kobe’s career he was a definite ball dominant, gtfo of my way, ultra alpha chad bro type of player. Relinquishing his control over the ball and offensive duties to make Chris Paul the primary facilitator was never going to happen. It would have been a career ending move for Chris same as it was for Dwight. Any ego at all didn’t work with Kobe. He needed guys like Pau, Tim, Tyson… great rebounders and defenders who didn’t have an ego. Team first players. In addition, the lakers traded away picks to win early in the 2k’s so they didn’t have great picks to build from in the draft. That’s their fault. If you feel like the Lakers robbing small markets is a way forward then I propose we go back to the old days and have LA, NY, Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Miami, DC and Philly. Stuff those teams with all the talent so it can be LA and NYC in the finals every year. Boring AF. Kobe wasn’t getting 6 cuz he needed the type of help that wanted to play with Bron… those guys didn’t want to take a backseat to Kobe to help him get 6. Again? Great player, amazing skill, mamba mentality… all that but he had zero team building skills.

@brokenawgaming2735

5 ай бұрын

Jesus Christ

@BVRNERMVSIC

2 ай бұрын

He was a rapist. He deserved his fate.

I love when you tell a joke without changing your speech cadence.

Another great video.

Thee absolute BEST NBA video EVER!!!🎉💫