this channel deserves so much more attention

Can’t tell you how impressive it is to condense nearly 15 hours of an audiobook (comparing one spoken format to another) down to about an hour. Bravo!!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

Eight minutes to spare! _Quenta Silmarillion_ really is a beautiful story.

OK I've tried to explain this to so many people, and now I'm just gonna refer them here and then we can talk about it.

Hearing this all at once really shows how dark a tale this is. Almost all the characters have tragic flaws and come to bad ends, even the bad characters. Very few characters come out well. I remember reading a letter or something where Tolkien wrote that many of the themes of the whole work are variations on "Lead us not into temptation" and what that really means,

❤Tolkiengeek is the man❤

Reading it now. The writing is definitely dense, but it's extremely poetic and beautiful. I had no idea it would be so beautiful.

@mytandasouder4485

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't it, im reading it for the second time now. I tried not to get to tripped up on all the details. There is just to much to fully recognize and comprehend in just a few readings. I will say I watched this guys videos when I felt like I was really curious about something in particular. Hes got a video for every chapter of the book! Happy readings!

I'm surprised no major production studios have tried to adapt the silmarillion or at least the events leading up to and the war of wrath I mean imagine seeing earendil fighting ancalagon, feanor fighting an army of balrogs and fingolfin facing down and wounding Morgoth himself. I mean tv shows definitely have the budget what with the witcher and game of thrones existing

@matthewbreytenbach4483

3 жыл бұрын

Man that would be cool.

@EsotericOccultist

3 жыл бұрын

They don't own the rights to it that's why they can't do that.

@sirlatrom

3 жыл бұрын

There's an Amazon TV series coming up covering some parts of the 2nd age (Númenor etc.)

@jessicascoullar3737

3 жыл бұрын

@@sirlatrom I thought the same thing, isn’t that what the Amazon series will be?

@folksurvival

3 жыл бұрын

The less film and TV adaptations of the books that are made the better.

This video, while hasty and hurried, does the job very well of telling the story of The Silmarillion in haste and serves to clarify Pat's missed through wandering mind or misunderstanding of the archaic language style Tolkien used to deliver it. Superb video!

38:21 *Meme the Dwarf* M E M E

So cool man. Thank you for bringing this to life for me...I have a much easier time learning aurally than by reading. Something about the Silmarillion that I am finding fills me with some awe and interest is how you get to see so many different sort of "archetypes" of how a person can be, based on their temperament and circumstances. It's interesting to me to see how different elves (and a few men) have such different ways of being in the world, and seem to have their own unique "configuration" of good and evil tendencies. It's interesting to me to look at how we love both Eärendil and Beren, but they are different... and how we might look less favorably on Turin (if I am naming the correct character) and of course Fëanor, and yet they are also different. It's interesting to me to see how Tolkien seems to enter into such an interesting dialogue about how creation itself, although coming from one place, seems to give rise to such complexity, and differentness, sometimes clashing. All I can say is that it is beautiful. Of course the stories of Beren and Luthien and also Eärendil are beautiful, but I also find the stories of say, Fëanor and Fingolfin's people crossing the Helcaraxë (I find that crossing so freaking cool and legendary by the way) beautiful as well, in a tragic way. I think the first age is really cool. Even though it is perhaps less human than the coming ages, I just love the richness of the legends and supernatural quality to it. Again, thanks 😁

One might mention that when the Dwarves decide not to give the finished product back to Thingol it is only part greed, but also partly because they don't acknowledge the fashion in which Thingol obtained the most perfect artifact produced by the Dwarven race.

I want your brain for Christmas. Without a doubt the best Tolkien channel. Top man!.

Well done! Keeping the names in order alone is a feat of amazingness.

I'm really glad I randomly found your channel. I used to be a huge Tolkien fan when I was younger but ended up drifting away. Your videos are helping me get back into LOTR and Tolkien in general. It's funny how things come rushing back after so long. Thanks for sharing your passion and Cheers from Canada!

Great Videos dude! Keep them coming

Thank you. I've started listening to The Silmarillion and think that this overview will help.

Incredible! 👏🏻 You summarized such a dense text so well. I finished The Silmarillion this week for my first time. Going through the whole book and watching your videos chapter by chapter along the way truly enriched my experience. Loved the book. Loved your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and understanding of Tolkien so well. Namárië.

Quite the monumental undertaking sir. Thanks for all the hard work you put in.

Great one hour summary , a Merry Christmas to you and yours , thanks for all the videos this year .

This was wonderful thank you so much.

This is incredible!

Exacly what i needed. About halfway but javemt read it in a while. This will help refresh my memory which is great 👍

Subscribed. Looking forward to diving into your channel. 🙏

The Silmarillion: With a few notable exceptions, Elves are greedy, arrogant, easily duped, and irresponsible.

@joejoelesh1197

3 жыл бұрын

I guess they weren’t created noble and wise, just with the ability to obtain those traits, and time to reach that end.

Thanks!

This is great! Felicem Domini Nativitatis diem!

Merry Christmas :)

This is Amazing.. BUT Glorfindels battle with the Balrog is LEGENDARY, not just some suicide. He fucks that Balrog up so bad, he even cuts it’s arm off, and ultimately he only dies because the Balrog grabs his hair as it falls. It’s such a Badass fight that he’s Resurrected and sent back to Middle Earth even more powerful, like Gandalf.

I should just have watched this instead of first reading half the book and understanding nothing of it XD. Thanks for the great vid

One of your greatest videos! Despite it being without the beard of course

They all die, and the rest lived happily ever after. The End

Happy Chrismahanekwinterkwanza!

@folksurvival

3 жыл бұрын

It's Yule, an ancient celebration of indigenous European people, all the others are fake.

13:00 bookmark for myself

You pronounced Ulmo almost like "Old Moe". ;-) More seriously, great summary. :-)

Can you do one about what parts of the Silmarillion christopher had to substantially construct, and what that process may have involved, and the troubles of deciding what’s ultimately ‘canon’ etc? Forgive me if you’ve already addressed this, I’m just asking what’s on my mind haha

@TolkienLorePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

What exactly Christopher did and didn’t do is a tricky question, in part because not all the older drafts have been published, but I might be able to do something on the issue of canon.

@NATHANOLOGY

2 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast That would be fascinating and very valuable, whatever you chose to emphasize!

A TV series adaptation would work better for The Silmarillion than a movie trilogy.

Holy crap Wow

Strange how I always feel grief for Maglor but Maedhros I see as a deserved fate.

The only thing that would make this better is if you included a map that you could either physically or digitally use for locations. …..and maybe a family tree or list of names with basic titles / descriptions. …..OOOOH! And a basic timeline so we can see how many hundreds or thousands of years are between stuff.

Wow thats alot ground to cover. And in less than one hour.

How can you play a theme without time? Was time passing as time was created? I thought music required time.

@TolkienLorePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

One would think lol

I'm game for The Silmarillion to be adapted into a TV series by either Netflix, HBO Max or Amazon Prime.

Where did the Edain live before sailing with Elros to Numenor?

I started with the silmarillion I’m still soo confused man,

You managed to make this more boring than the actual text... Impressive. I use this to fall asleep now. Thank you!!

Do you think sauron could have been pardoned by Manwe and do you think Eonwe should have tried to do more to push Sauron to go back to valinor? I feel like it was a huge misstake by Eonwe to just tell him to go and ask forgiveness from manwe and not encourage him more. Maby a theme for another great vid :)

@TolkienLorePodcast

4 жыл бұрын

Well given the compressed nature of the narrative it’s not clear how much or how little Eonwe tried to convince him. As for whether Manwe could have pardoned him, I think he could have, but I think Sauron was onto something in thinking he would at least impose some form of punishment.

@axelhyltan

4 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast i wish more would have been writen for that segment, It could have been a really interesting insight to Sauron and how he interacted with a maia like Eonwe. It also could have been a glimbs into mairon. Like you said Sauron likely guessed right that a punishment waited for him in valinor and he probably knew from Morgoth what they did to him when he was captured. Still if we know Manwe right the punishment would likely not have been very severe for a guy that had done the deeds that sauron had. Thank you for ypur great Tolkien content🔥

@oliveremmettknox7776

3 жыл бұрын

Why Eonwe did not brought Sauron back to Aman by force?

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

He hid himself.

6:50 *Valinor

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Lol what a slip. I think I meant to say leave FOR Middle-earth.

something that always bothered me about Eärendil, was placing him the sky to sail forever a reward or a punishment for daring to enter Aman?

@TolkienLorePodcast

Жыл бұрын

Neither. He wasn’t allowed to return to mortal lands as a result of his going to Aman but that’s less a punishment than a natural consequence I think. But his sailing in the sky is different than not being allowed to return.

Ah, Christmas 2019. I’m convinced I got covid on Christmas Eve. Might’ve had mild symptoms once since then….

How do you feel about Luthien putting Morgoth to sleep?

@TolkienLorePodcast

Жыл бұрын

What do you mean?

The link does not work for the playlist in the description

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

I’ll have to fix that later. Thanks for the heads up

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Try now, should be fixed.

@George_Bland

3 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast It is, thank you.

Is this the mime version of Cody's Lab?

@TolkienLorePodcast

Жыл бұрын

Lol nope

@UnitSe7en

Жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast No offense intended 😄

@TolkienLorePodcast

Жыл бұрын

No worries, I get this a lot 😂

So if Beleriand was destroyed during the War of Wraith, where the Edain live in before they sailed with Elros to Numenor?

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

The destruction of Beleriand was presumably a process that took time to complete, with the final drowning coming later, but that’s a good question.

@oliveremmettknox7776

3 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast So Beleriand was not destroyed as swiftly by the Host of the Valar during the War of Wraith?

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

Right.

Wait, how the craftsman valar were able to create lifeform, cus the only one who can create should be the high god iluvatar, which also rises another question, why smith were able to create life, but the mightiest of them, Melkor, couldn’t???

@TolkienLorePodcast

Жыл бұрын

None of them created life, they could only shape and form matter.

@torgomaghanyan7633

Жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast ok from whom? Same could be said about Hobbits, who created them how and when. They are no human, no elf neither dwarf. We know from whom Morgoth were creating his orks, dragons and balrogs, if Hobbits and dwarfs were modified humans and elfs then ok, if not, the valars are capable of iluvatar level of creation

@TolkienLorePodcast

Жыл бұрын

Actually hobbits are a branch of humanity.

@torgomaghanyan7633

Жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast o_0

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This was still very confusing... so many names

Wait... happy Jul? Is that Nordic? Because im from Denmark, and We Call Christmas Jul😅

@TolkienLorePodcast

3 жыл бұрын

It’s Yule in Tolkien’s spelling because it comes from Old English I think, but same idea I imagine.

@kristianvejrup5808

3 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast ah I see. Yeah, I Think the english language adopted some Danish words when the vikings settled there for some time

@TheDjn8

Жыл бұрын

@@kristianvejrup5808 old Norse words!I’m being petty about it, I’m Swedish and we were pretty much the same peoples then… on another note: think of how many English words related to violence there are that came from Norse - as well as names of wild animals. In Swedish/English: kniv/knife, mord/murder, bärsärk/berserk, svärd/sword, yxa/axe, ulf/wolf, varg/warg, björn/bear, klubba/club, skada/scathe et cetera

@kristianvejrup5808

Жыл бұрын

@@TheDjn8 Well yes that is true! But it was the Danish Viking King who took over england😏😄

didnt turin kill glaurung and then die himself?

@TolkienLorePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

No, he survived but shortly after killed himself dir to finding out Niniel was actually his sister.

@MrDwarfHammerToFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast “One became afraid and fled, and the other was crushed by rocks. However, Túrin was able to kill Glaurung by thrusting his sword, Gurthang, into Glaurung's belly, his one vulnerable spot. Glaurung felt his death wound and screamed. When the dragon's toxic blood touched Túrin, he fell into a swoon.” After glaurungs death, his spell broke and Niniel regained her memory and then killed herself knowing she was with Turin. Turin then awoke and killed himslef by falling on his sword. I didn’t hear you say this in the video and just wanted to make sure since it’s been a minute since I read This part.

@TolkienLorePodcast

2 жыл бұрын

It’s possible I left it out in the rush of trying to get the whole thing in an hour lol

@MrDwarfHammerToFace

2 жыл бұрын

@@TolkienLorePodcast I’m not complaining at all. It’s an amazing video that jogs the memory and i very much appreciate the work you do 😁

Sound he talk n explained to himself .... 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

who downvoted this,

I can’t even begin on how bad this was.... wrong information several times

Your elvish pronunciation was awful