THE SHOT THAT KNOCKED OUT TIGER 131 | Armour Piercing Simulation
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In 1943, Tiger 131 engaged in a counter-attack against British troops at Point 174 in North Africa. It was hit by multiple rounds from Churchill tanks and a captured AT gun, disabling the vehicle. The most notable hit was a 6pdr which glanced off the mantlet, penetrated the deck armour, and jammed the turret: This video simulates that impact using engineering software.
Tiger 131 was then captured by the British and is now on display at @thetankmuseum. It is also the only Tiger-1 still running, with it featuring in the movie 'Fury'.
This incredibly lucky shot comes with a large amount of uncertainty, with the range, impact angle, and Tiger 131's gun elevation & turret position (at the time of impact) having to be approximated. Based on images of Tiger 131 from when it was captured, the gun appears almost level, with the turret directly forward. The projectile velocity was set to match a 6pdr at 500 yards, which is said to be the initial range of engagement [1]. The angle of impact was set through trial and error until the impact marks matched those on Tiger 131 (it appears the shot came in from under the gun, as if the Churchills were at a lower elevation to the Tiger). TO NOTE: the second indentation along the barrel shroud could not be accounted for; I'm not sure how this was caused in reality but it may be from the driving band or from the projectile spinning off axis [2].
The mantlet's geometry was made as accurate as possible, with only certain parts of the Tiger being deformable bodies; the rest of the model is rigid and is purely for visuals (for a vehicle as special as Tiger 131 I felt like it would be better to see the whole tank). The mesh had to be coarse as the simulation was very long and I had limited time to simulate it.
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The amount of impact angle trial and error needed to match the real life impact just shows how incredibly lucky this shot was
@urint3902
2 жыл бұрын
godlike luck
@teentitanss1845
2 жыл бұрын
can u possibly do a vid about leopards arrowheads?
@tanall5959
2 жыл бұрын
As the great Chuck Yeager once said: "I'd rather be lucky than good any day of the week."
@jakobc.2558
2 жыл бұрын
@@urint3902 god and man working together to kill nazis. Based.
@lairdcummings9092
2 жыл бұрын
...Better to be lucky than good. ~ attributed to Gen. Patton. (Probably not, though)
Very interesting that this tank was saved by an enemy shot, to become the only fully operational one in existence.
@MinazukiShiun
2 жыл бұрын
Interesting way to put it but true
@hyneksmid3293
2 жыл бұрын
IRONIC
@r.j.dunnill1465
Жыл бұрын
A Ferdinand was saved by an enemy shot, too. In this case, the shot wedged between a sprocket and the hull, prompting the machine's abandonment.
@majormiller493
5 ай бұрын
Saumur: "Am I a joke to you ?"
@JackFrost008
2 ай бұрын
@@r.j.dunnill1465 I bet the ferdinand crew was shitting bricks for days after that one 😮
Pro tip: you can pregenerate simulations of random shots against random tanks at random angles and you will have content for next decade.
@feryth
2 жыл бұрын
Simulating and sorting through the result to find interesting shots, however, also takes a decade
@BozAwesome
2 жыл бұрын
This is my channels game plan but real life RC tanks and bunkers
@mcr5645
2 жыл бұрын
Also, work backwards to replicate? Seems sort of easy, but idk I mean we know within 99% where the impact location is and such
@lordbalthosadinferni4384
2 жыл бұрын
@@BozAwesome RC tanks and bunkers sounds awesome
@osmacar5331
2 жыл бұрын
I want to know the program used
War Thunder players: "I see this as an absolute win."
@arya31ful
2 жыл бұрын
Tiger "players" : "REEEEEE!, muh German tecknologeee!!!!"
@kricker8562
2 жыл бұрын
He got gaijined
@Fightre_Flighte
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in world of tanks: "WE DIDN'T *PENETRATE* THEIR *ARMOR!!"* (145 damage)
@kylza
2 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it
@Tecnotrucker80
2 жыл бұрын
Churchill Player: "Thats Skill, not Luck" XD
I always wondered about the capture of this seemingly intact Tiger. Makes sense now. Unable to move because the driver was probably injured/stunned and unable to fight with a disabled turret there was little to do but dismount and seek cover.
@hanzkammler6388
2 жыл бұрын
far as I know the crew kind of panicked when the turret jammed, they all bailed out. I wonder why they didn't destroy the vehicle. We were thought to blow the machine up if we had to leave it, if not enough time to do that the commander is responsible for denying the enemy the ability to use the gun. If the driver is injured so much he can't carry his tasks, he will be replaced by another crew member and the machine will either keep fighting or will be drawn back for repair. I think after they realized they can't return fire, they bailed out. Not throwing a bunch of grenades in, on their way out is the real head scratcher for me
@zuthalsoraniz6764
2 жыл бұрын
@@hanzkammler6388 You said the likely reason, they panicked. Maybe trained to destroy the vehicle if bailing out, but it's hard to really think logically under such an extremely stressful situation.
@beniditz
2 жыл бұрын
@@zuthalsoraniz6764 They abondened the tank in the night. The britisch found it the next day wich makes it even stranger why it wasnt scuttled.
@kireta21
2 жыл бұрын
@@zuthalsoraniz6764 They had no way to know it was an extremely lucky hit. For all they knew, something just penetrated their armor, and if it did it once, it can do it again in matter of seconds, and this time they may not be lucky enough to survive. As for why they didn't destroy the tank, it might be they expected to recover it later. Tank was disabled, but not scrap. I imagine at that point they could not afford to destroy equipment unless they were absolutely certain they won't get it back. They took cover with friendy forces, but ended up cut off from tank when frendlies pulled back.
@xRepoUKx
2 жыл бұрын
@@hanzkammler6388 there isn't a lot of cover in the desert and a burning tank would have lit them up. Better to leave the tank intact and escape than to destroy it and be killed.
Real life tank crews: Oh No OuR TuRrEt Is JaMmEd We GoTtA bAiL WT tank crews: our engine is on fire, I just watched half my crew get disintegrated, I'm now the gunner, and theres only 2 of us left but dammit, I'll keep on fighting
@imonthemoonrn
2 жыл бұрын
Tungsten balls energy
@minhducnguyen9276
2 жыл бұрын
'We received minor damage."
@proof4469
2 жыл бұрын
Also wt crews can fix a 90% destroyed tank on the field in seconds
@DestroyinStuff
2 жыл бұрын
@@proof4469 wdym it doesn't take 30 seconds to fix a spaghettified barrel and breach?
@proof4469
2 жыл бұрын
@@DestroyinStuff yeah!
I feel sorry for anyone who was ever in a tank being splattered with Red hot fast moving fragments of metal.
@thepoglin8479
2 жыл бұрын
Imagine getting third degree burns *in* your chest
@extravirginoliveoil335
2 жыл бұрын
The only good way to die is to be hit my the round directly, you will turn to strawberry jam before you even realised
@scoutdogfsr
2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why I went Airborne. The thought of armour coffin just didn't appeal to me at all. 1/504th P.I.R 82nd Airborne. Happy New Year to all of my veteran brothers and sisters out there!
@rrosski
2 жыл бұрын
@@extravirginoliveoil335 tasty
@tizanikandothers
2 жыл бұрын
@@extravirginoliveoil335 oh dude just pls dont 😱😰😰😰😰😰🤢
Damn, never thought a Tiger could get Panthered
People have this false perception of tank warfare that these German tanks could just shrug off rounds. In battle, if an important part of the function of your tank is broken, you literally cannot use the tank. It doesn't have to blow up like a video game to be put out of use.
@skittlesbutwithchocolatein2274
2 жыл бұрын
biggest targets are the tracks and in recent moder days the optics too not to mention engine and radiators
@spygineer1076
2 жыл бұрын
there's plenty of games that recreate that
@J.G.Wentworth69420
2 жыл бұрын
You're also not a know it all, toggaf.
@robertstonebreaker8394
2 жыл бұрын
Sure ok your right again
@velvetthundr
2 жыл бұрын
War Thunder: Shoot the barrel then the tracks and you have yourself a new pet.
Do one for .50 cal bouncing off the ground and hitting the Tiger's floor armor. A lot of people think that's a legit way to knock out tanks. It's not, of course. But there's an old interview with a pilot who described such a means being used to knock out Tigers, and people still like to quote it.
@Punisher9419
2 жыл бұрын
It's not possible although i would still liek to see the sim.
@ralpjirehg.jaravata9300
2 жыл бұрын
there was one tactic where P-51 pilots would shoot the ground, so that their bullets would ricochet off and hit underamor. would be interesting to see that one tho.
@revolrz22
2 жыл бұрын
@@Punisher9419 Of course it's not possible. I, however, would like the sim as a visual to show people who keep quoting that pilot who says that's what they did.
@Punisher9419
2 жыл бұрын
@@ralpjirehg.jaravata9300 I think we have all heard tha tmany times but it still doesn't make it even remotely possible. Soldiers and piltots say the strangest of things sometimes. Like the whole winter coats stopping bullets thing.
@mojojojo8496
2 жыл бұрын
thats because every horse drawn farmer cart was a tiger tank for the US airforce.
Amazing to see that shots like this one are so well documented! Fantastic video as always!
From what I read: 1. The first shot deflected from the gun mantlet into the driver hatch, jamming the horizontal turret drive and wounding the driver 2. The second shot hit the elevation drive 3. The third shot hit the driver hatch, sending shrapnel into the turret. The crew bailed and take their wounded, leaving the incapacitated but otherwise still driveable tank behind.
Fascinating and amazing, as usual. Thanks for putting in the work recreating this historical moment for us!
Bro definitely had 500% booster on💀
@Brent-jj6qi
7 күн бұрын
The tiger definitely did
Been looking forward to this video for days!! So fascinating. Thank you for doing what you do!
In all of your videos the spalling or seemingly small chunks of metal that penetrate don't seem to be so harmful, but then I remember that these are quarter sized chunks of metal flying at high speeds into the soft meat targets of the crew. Really goes to show how one shot, seemingly harmless, takes out a machine and its crew.
@malcolmanon4762
2 жыл бұрын
There was a round called the HESH ( High Explosive Squash Head) round, that was designed to induce spalling - basically, the shell splatted a lump of HE on to the target, this detonated to produce a shock wave to turn the inside of the AFV into a mincing machine. I don't know if it used anymore, as most people just seem to mention HEAT and APFSDS rounds nowadays.
@Pawfunia
2 жыл бұрын
@@malcolmanon4762 Panzerfaust entry point in the armour was really small and could disable whole tank.
@Brent-jj6qi
7 күн бұрын
@@malcolmanon4762it’s. oddly those two plus normal HE for CSG usage
(watches killcam) "WHAT THE F--- WAS THAT BOUNCE???!!"
That is a beautifully complex and fascinating simulation, brilliant way to start 2022.
I think that the projectile fired into the German Tiger tank did not rotate exactly along the central axis, so it is possible that there was a double ricochet on the barrel, when the first touch caused an uncontrolled rotation of the projectile even more. What caused such a ricochet. it's not just the luck of the crew who shot this Tiger tank, it's a mega golden shell!
Thanks for adding grist to the armored mill. Liked and shared . . . with an old M60 driver.
Fascinating stuff. Great channel.
It is amazing how seemingly little damage can disable a tank. Really cool video!
I've always marveled at armor slope that angles a projectile into a much less armored part of a tank.
in war thunder: driver 2 secs later the churchill becomes scrap metal
It's amazing how the shot just grazed the gun and then hit the mantlet. That was an incredibly lucky shot...
Great video. It’s so cool this can be recreated and shared
Wild to see the steel flex like fabric
@acolbymyers
2 жыл бұрын
steel when hit needs to bend a little if not it will be shattered cause the steel is far to brittle
ARMOR SIM IDEA The side skirts of the later Panzer 3 and 4 models were designed to stop 14.5mm anti tank rifles from the sides, which would be a really cool spaced armor demonstration (showing what would happen without and with the spaced armor side skirts) I'm pretty sure the entire concept here isn't to add more raw thickness to the sides since the side plates were probably really thin, but to damage and throw the 14.5mm projeciles into a tumble causing them to not be able to penetrate, which would hopefully show really interestingly in a test like these.
I've seen this very tank in an armored vehicle museum video. Apparently the crew bailed out as soon as the main gun could not traverse. One of the better surviving Tigers I am told.
@Mjk10957
2 жыл бұрын
Its the only running Tiger in the world , seen a number of times running and firing blanks , tiger 131 was used in fury
I would like to know what you used for this because I would really like playing around with it
What program did you use before using Ansys?
That explains all the 131 decals I've seen in some games.
The ringed picture is above, and right of the drivers position, the hit struck behind the driver.
Could you do a simulation please for the 20mm @73 degrees Panzer 4 front hull armor. Slope multiplier data suggests this should be penetrable by 75mm M61 APCBC out to about 750m. 500m would be a good test.
The gunner who pulled out that shot was clearly using an aimbot
@skwal5464
2 жыл бұрын
I'm reporting him rn
@whateverprecisely
11 ай бұрын
The British unlocked Aimbot because they spent more research points on computational technology rather than good tank design
Just saw steel guru make the same exact shot in warthunder scary how accurate it was
i just wondered, is it possible to do the last shown tape or beginning in realtime? would have been cool to see how the impact would have seen in realtime, not in slow motion
What software do you use to do that simulation ? Catia ?
There are two scrapes along the bottom of the barrel,looks like the shot hit upwards dug in and spun, made the second scrape then hit the mantlet.
Same problem with the panter and maus, the panther's turret in the gun mount its too angled when shot there is a big chance it could deflect it and hit the driver, with the maus same area with turret gun mount near the engine but its mostly not shot in the particular area and the engine may set on fire and heat up the crew causing suffocation
not to mention where the tiger had to have been aiming for the 6pdr to make the shot. you only get 1-2 of those.
@Necrovamp101
2 жыл бұрын
It was a 75mm at gun, so the shot would more likely be traveling from the floor upwards, hitting the barrel. m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/aayuqcGrgtHNo5s.html
Unrelated, but I managed to make a shot like this, but on the Panther A/D mantlet barrel cover with Sherman APHE M61 or M62... I Accidentally found out you can do it on Tiger II H's Gunmantlet (Warthunder) wanted know if it was possible in a more realistic sim
What ammo was it?
Always wondered how that worked... Which could you simulate how a Sherman M4A1 could bounce a Tiger's 88? How it is theories it could be done by extremly angling the front armor to the point they might as well shot your side... Tactically you could have just rotated at the last secound and I do it is world of tanks but IRL I don't know still would be nice to see your take on it!
@tankgaming1A2
Жыл бұрын
İf the tiger 88 hits a critical or weak part its possible to destroy it many times tho
I am fairly certain that The Tank Museum has come on record to state that they now believe that Tiger 131 could have been knocked out by a captured 7.5 cm Pak 97/38 utilized by the 2nd Battalion Sherwood Foresters on 24 April 1943 on Point 174. The video is called "Tiger 131: A Twist in the Tale | The Tank Museum" on The Tank Museum KZread channel.
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
And in a subsequent video it was shown that while an AT gun was used by the foresters, it was the Churchill reinforcements which dealt this immobilising shot: "Tiger 131: Inside & Out" (near the beginning they show a plaster cast of the impact as well as a 6pdr round)
@oberstwake
2 жыл бұрын
@@SYsimulations I hadn't watched that video, thanks.
what software do you use to simulate this?
Just curious..... What caused the second impact/strike along the underside of the barrel as the simulation only shows four points of contact. Barrel, mantlet, upper hull and turret ring yet there are 5 impacts on the vehicle.... or am I just missing something in the sim?
@lonewolf2156
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it had something to do with the round wobbling furiously after the first contact with the barrel, after all those rounds spin rapidly due to the guns rifling, and if something disrupts them they can start wobbling or tumbling. the first strike on the barrel knocked the nose of the round down which started the wobble that caused the front of the round to go up and contact the gun barrel that second time
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
Check the description for potential reasons why; lone wolf may be correct but projectile spin is accounted for yet it didn't destabilise very much
What software did you used for simulation That was insanely lucky shot lmao good thing it's still operational and wasn't critical damage
Very amazing video i love animations like this
Pretty cool sim, but I don't think it's quite right. I've been on Tiger 131 and have examined the danage at close range. After watching this I checked my pictures and there's no 45 degree angled surface on the bottom of the mantlet so the round should not deflect down as much as it does in the sim. I got the VIP tour at Tiger Day in April 2019 and was one of a small number of people who got into Tiger 131. I was on the front hull inspecting the damage and I saw no penetration of the hull top. And I was close enough to touch the mantlet and turret ring. I wish I could post a picture to show how close the sim is to reality and where it differs. After glancing off the barrel where it left two score marks the round took two divots off the bottom of the gun mantlet pretty much as the sim shows, except the mantlet front is vertical and stepped, not angled where the round hits. The round does not seem to have deflected much and continued on until the round partially penetrated the turret ring, not the hull deck, where the main part of the round makes a bigger divit and two fragments either of the round or torn from the gun mantlet make a smaller pair of divots on either side. We got the new (as of 2019) revised version of the capture of Tiger 131 at a lecture by David Willey and as I understood it the 6 pdr round lodged in the turret ring preventing rotation which is why it was abandonned.
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
Hi, its really cool that you got to go in tiger 131 but i can assure you that the deck armour was penetrated. Since then the hole has been welded over -this can be seen in various photos and the restoring Tiger 131 blog details the damage to the hull. In regards to the mantlet, while there is a small step there in reality, there is also the 45degree angle part (both of which the shell impacts). This was accounted for in the sim but the mesh size meant that the step is barely visible. Regardless, if you look at the geometry from the side, there is no way the round could hit the barrel, mantlet, and get lodged in the neck without bouncing off the hull roof. At the end of the day, a simulation is just an approximation and some things cant be accounted for properly. In this case it is the second divot along the barrel, which may have been from the projectile spinning off axis
@GeorgiaBoy1961
2 жыл бұрын
Good detective work.... thanks for posting it. Jamming a turret by hitting the turret ring or roller-race-way was a time-honored method of knocking out a tank. It is difficult to repair in the field, too, even back at a depot-level facility with the right equipment, depending on whether the turret and hull were equally-damaged or only one or the other.
@robinsteeden7466
2 жыл бұрын
@@SYsimulations Ahh, okay that's cool. I knew I didn't see anything on the deck and they didn't talk in that much detail during the walk around.
@miloblue2052
2 жыл бұрын
For it to be abandoned, there had to be more problems than just a stuck turret traverse.
I understand nothing of what you are saying but I love watching it.
what are you using to make these simulations? I am curious about it and maybe want to start making these for my own fun!
@user-njyzcip
2 жыл бұрын
Probably ansys or something, the creator likely works in a company that has access to the software because the licences are very expensive
@QselaNiklas
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-njyzcip oh ok thank you for the answer tho!
Can you do a modern warship attacking say bismarck and vise versa? I’d love to see that rendering
Where is “the turret drive” located? Right under that spot?
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
In the neck where the fragments of the shell get lodged at the end
That impact doesn't tally with the scars on the tank. I've rechecked my photos and can't find any impact mark on the hull roof near the driver. It's possible such damage was repaired, but that seems unlikely given how carefully preserved the rest of the damage is. The simulated shell also fails to find the impact point in the turret ring where, according to the accounts, it jammed the traverse.
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
The hull damage was repaired and the hole has been welded over, there are images available of this. As for the neck damage, that is exactly where the shell gets stuck at the end of the video so I'm not sure what's wrong about it
@theapostatejack8648
2 жыл бұрын
@@SYsimulations The only information I can find for the hull roof was a reference to it being "depressed" rather than a hole being made. Relook at the simulation, after the shell strikes the roof. The fragments bounce up and strike the upper half of the ring rather than making an intact impact to the point between the turret and hull where the original impact carved a chunk out of the turret an inch or so deep and roughly three inches across, where it jammed the turret, something upward travelling shrapnel would not cause. Maybe the simulated roof is too soft, or the shell too brittle, or both, I don't know. Either way I'm not seeing a consistency with the physical evidence after it glances off the mantlet. It's close, very close but not quite there.
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
Have a look at this blog here to see the roof damage more clearly: "Tiger 131 Restoration: Part VII battle damage" And I see what you mean about the neck now and you are right; the simulation is not perfect but its as close as I could get it. This shot was so hard to replicate and simulations are only an approximation of real life anyway.
@theapostatejack8648
2 жыл бұрын
@@SYsimulations I see what you mean about the roof. I'm not sure what has happened there. It would be interesting to see what that looks like from inside the tank.
Thanks, very interesting!
I remember seeing this tank at the tank museum at Bovington Camp back in 1985.
This should be called "the luckiest shot in the history of tank warfare, never to be repeated".
What program is this
awsome thank you
The 3 vulnerabilities areas of the Tiger Tank. That was one of the weak spots on the Tiger where the Turret Gap. The other was the belly and the rear end. A lot of aircraft would purposely aim beside of the tank for cannon round to ricochet into the belly.
@tanker102
Жыл бұрын
And that ricochet thing is just false... Any kind of machine gun used on planes would pen the belly of a tank by ricochet with the ground and I'll tell you why......the ground is not regular neither hard, a bullet would smash into the ground or ricochet with a lot of its momentum lost because of the sand/dirt/grass where it ricocheted...with the ricochet the bullet doesn't have enough momentum nor strength to hit a plate of steel at angle (because of the ricochet not going literally 90° up to the belly of the tank) and pen... It would get destroyed against the plate or ricochet again and then go to the ground again
What software is this?
They were pretty much staring eachother straight down the barrel
The possibility of those extremely hot shards falling into your lap doesn't bear thinking.
Now we can clearly see why the engineers creating improved versions of the Panther, introduced in the later Ausf. G a new angle in lower part of the frontal turret armor plate, the older one could ricochet a projectile in the upper hull armor plate, as in the case of the Tiger 131.
What app do you use to simulate these shots @SY Simulations also great video!!
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Its ansys
@lampros2294
2 жыл бұрын
@@SYsimulations hello! Sorry due to my poor English I didn't quite get it. Could you please help me a bit 😉🙏🏻
But why is the mark on the barrel discontinuous though?
The photos of the real damage and the simulation don't add up it seems to me. For example, the place where the shell penetrated the roof is far forward of the hit area in the simulation. Also, why is the armour in the hit area half the strenght of the rest of the roof? I would suggest it was two shots, as indicated by the skid marks on the barrels underside. One shot penetrated the roof, the other slammed into the turret ring. One shot doing both damages doesn't have the energy nor integral sternght I would assume.
You need to do an Is-2 shell simulation against a King Tiger. It'd be interesting.
it's kinda ironic how the last operational tiger was taken out by a lucky shot
Interesting… do tank designers ever take these shots into consideration when designing protection in new generation battle tanks?? Very interesting to see these videos!
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
They somewhat do, but shots like this are so rare and can never be fully prevented. Also modern projectiles are a lot less likely to ricochet like this so it's not as big of an issue
Can you do piat vs tiger side armor please
hii, Can you make a simulation, where a t-34 (76) shots a tiger 1 from the side trough the overlapped wheels and the side armor?
I wonder if the crew members survived and can see the Tiger 131 again.
@michaelpielorz9283
10 ай бұрын
the story of Tiger 131 is interesting and a little bit different from official british"view"
the amount of unluckyness in tiger 131 crew ....
@alexbeau348
2 жыл бұрын
equals bismark
Wow that's a really long simulation
Is this commonly known as the way the tank was disabled? I watched a video about this tank from the tank museum just today where the curator said that it was unknown as to why the tank was abandoned. The video in question was from 2017 tho.
@Sreven199
2 жыл бұрын
m.kzread.info/dash/bejne/mJyem6-zoJOTlaQ.html This is the video you're probably referencing. The curator says it was a mystery at first, because the Germans were ordered to destroy all their tigers when they had to abandon it. After that, they start talking about the forensics analysis, and mention this shot in particular. This is all said around the 2-3 minute mark
So the shot that jammed the turret was the 3-5th ricochet, with all the energy lost at each..?
Knocked is a strong word. I reckon the crew panicked when the fragmented armor injured the driver
@XanderTuron
2 жыл бұрын
The gun was disabled by having its elevation jammed, turning the tank into a fire power kill, potentially injuring at least one crew member and causing the crew to abandon the tank, ergo, it was knocked out.
I'm wondering why there is a second impact on the bottom of the barrel... possibly it was caused by the rear end of the projectile, if it had started to tumble?
@SYsimulations
2 жыл бұрын
Its strange...i hypothesised a few potentials in the description
Can we get an active protection/point defence sym? The ability to identify and procedural thinking are quite fascinating.
@deathdragon2283
2 жыл бұрын
He’s done 2 different APS sims already. Though I wouldn’t be against another one being done
Whats name have this program
Tank general: what if a shell got reflected by the barrel mount into the hull roof? Tank engineer: na, unlikely.
Why are there two gouges under the gun barrel?
do a tutorial on how you animate these # #
This is the best way to pop a Tiger from the front on War Thunder lmao
Just recreated this shot in war thunder using a Churchill VII with m61 shot and it actually works!! .....but the angle has to be perfect, doubt anyone actually trying to do this in a match would ever pull it off, let alone in real life. Incredibly lucky!!!
@keithforster344
2 жыл бұрын
Didn't think it actually perpetrated. I thought the crew got out unharmed ?
@rider4440
2 жыл бұрын
@@keithforster344 driver and some others were injured
How about an AT gun or open top vehicle vs a 75mm HE shell, to see if the pressure can actually be lethal, when the shell is stoped by armor? 😊
@GeorgiaBoy1961
2 жыл бұрын
@ Kim Janek - Re: "How about an AT gun or open top vehicle vs a 75mm HE shell, to see if the pressure can actually be lethal, when the shell is stoped by armor?" A high-velocity kinetic energy round, which in those days would have meant a solid AP shot or some sort of capped/ballistic-capped AP shell, possesses enough energy to drive spall (metal fragments) off of the interior of a tank's armor, sufficient to wound/kill crew members and damage/knock-out the tank, even if it does not penetrate the armor. The same is true of a relatively slow-moving H.E. shell from a howitzer or other high-angle indirect fire artillery piece. If it has a large-enough explosive charge, it can kill/disable the crew by concussion effects alone and also damage/knockout the AFV itself. Using shock waves and spall to destroy a target - such as a reinforced concrete bunker or tank with heavy thick armor - was known back during WWII thanks to R&D done by the British on their Burney Bomb, designed as a bunker buster for use on D-Day. The idea was to pack enough explosive in a mesh bag or some other containment suited to be packed into the nose of an artillery shell, equip it with a contact fuse or a very short delay fuse, and then fire it at the bunker or whatever and watch what happens. The bag would squash against the barrier/target, flatten itself and then detonate, sending a massive shock wave through the surface of the target to whatever was on the other side, knocking loose large-heavy pieces of shrapnel and spall at very high velocities. Very bad news for anything/anyone on the other side. This effect became the basis of the later British HESH 120mm tank round, or "High-Explosive Anti-Tank" munition, developed some fifty years later. When the Allies encircled retreating German mechanized and armored forces, as well as those on foot or using horses, at the Falaise Pocket in summer 1944, the pocket was pulverized by round-the-clock tactical and heavy bombing, as well as in-range land-based and naval artillery. It was a slaughter, plainly-stated. Men were killed by concussion of heavy bombs and very large caliber artillery shells while inside their tanks, from near-misses alone and not direct-hits. That's what a 2,000 lb. + naval artillery shell does to a tank and its crew when it hits. Not all of the pocket was within range of sea-based gunnery from vessels off the French coastline, but some was, and those guys caught it bad.
I guess when it comes to early tank combat, throwing enough shit at a wall, something would eventually stick.
Tank commander :We can't penetrate his frontal armor aim for the Gun Barrel! BANG! Gunner: I meant to do that
That’s got to be one of the luckiest shots ever.
Incredible.
How did this shot knock out the turret traverse? Did it jam the ring or something?
@TTTT-oc4eb
2 жыл бұрын
Yep.
In WarThunder, that would have taken out the entire crew BEFORE all the ammo exploded
How did it disable the turret tho?
the armour that made the bounce was a paid actor! tiger tank fans- probably
Oddly enough, when I ran my ANSYS simulation, the local temperature of the object was lower than the environment temperature, and the elements were dramatically deformed
What if test Modern Armour? Like Composite, Slat, etc.
The history being written from one extremely lucky shot from a war thunder low tier player who kept shooting the front of the tank instead of flanking it.
enough to make a grown man cry