Documentaries like these make me realize how much I still don't know, and I am insanely happy when I found out something new. Thank you for making this available!

@minmogrovingstrongandhealthy

2 күн бұрын

Indeed just don't take everything literary, things like 1st they say oh these were advanced people yet in the next part somehow they had performed primitive level "sacrifices" and other nonsense. I mean that kind of satanic crap is happening today too but NOT majority of people are doing it and never was. Things like they found a hoard of tusks and other items "oh must be sacrifice" ... IT DOESNT, can be that they simply kept the things there as storage or was kept hidden during a raid. There been plenty of written evidences through the history that every civilization had hidden rooms to keep away tools, materials, children and woman hidden during a raid, be it at home, shrines or even middle of nowhere. Same thing. Even rooms big enough to hide the entire village inside. Recently I been talking to a man, about a place family names overall Serbian history and people there a once was fortified town in today's Hercegovina where none of the invaders ever managed to take over 100% because they had hidden cave systems, mountain formations etc where the whole village could hide and hide all the important things, from items to food water etc. They had well systems in caves and it was so greatly hidden no one could realize anyone lives here. Usually men were fighting the invaders while everyone else was hidden and they could see miles away when they will be attacked and could calculate when it will happen. Even today you can find in random rooms caves etc hoard of items because they kept it there safe and only took it out when they needed it. They all shared everything there was no "this is mine, that is yours" instead what is mine is yours too. It's been like this for centuries. But for someone today might this come odd because we live in a era of over-consumerism and everyone is locked inside their own imaginary world keeping things for themselves. We were not like that, we didn't had fences etc to keep away the neighbors but the wild animals and the enemy. MAJOR DIFFERENCES

Something I find interesting about their discoveries about this ancient people are the early civilization tropes that parallel to that of the early Celts. They both have practices of human sacrifice and burying alive the servants or slaves of nobles along with them, adorned with precious items, chariots, and more. It’s fascinating how many early civilizations have very similar habits despite their separate locations and zero contact due to geographical boundaries.

@6Euphoria6

Ай бұрын

From what I heard, they never found human remains so idk where ur idea came from

@huberthumphry280

Ай бұрын

@@6Euphoria6 probably from History channel Ancient Aliens- I mean the Celts didn't do what this person claims either. This video isn't much better (at least the title) "lost kingdom" what?! the Chinese have known about the Shang dynasty for millenia, wait until Americans learn of the Xia

@6Euphoria6

Ай бұрын

@huberthumphry280 I honestly despite that channel. What aliens? Ever heard of "artistic freedom?"

@huberthumphry280

Ай бұрын

@@6Euphoria6 to me it seems more to be about superiority, as if people 2 or even 4 thousand years ago were not as intelligent, industrious and talented as us-- only difference is a greater amount of collective knowledge

@thebrowneyesofmandalore6524

Ай бұрын

@@huberthumphry280 i apologize if what I said was too vague. I was referring to the tribes that became the Celts. If you’re wondering where I got that from, it was from a BBC documentary titled the Celts. If the information is false or the documentary itself is inaccurate then please let me know. Thanks.

Last summer, I visited this Jinsha museum, and I found it to be quite impressive.

This documentary is absolutely fascinating! Jinsha is a remarkable place

@geoms6263

26 күн бұрын

and reporter she is adorable

Fantastic ... China was the world's economic "sleeping giant", now it's archeology's "sleeping giant" 🌄

@geoms6263

26 күн бұрын

now is comunist

@janusjones6519

6 күн бұрын

@@geoms6263it’s been communist for 70 years. You living under a rock or something

@Haoareyousohandsome

5 күн бұрын

@@geoms6263at least spell it right bruh

China has such a rich and beautiful history ❤

A correction. The golden plate took several years for conservators to restore it, not for archeologists.

thank you so very much for this historical video and the historical and ancient artifacts presented

The point of outfitting the gods with a mask is to cover his unsightly appearance because as Quetzalcoatl said "If ever my subjects were to see my true appearance, they would surely run away!"

@SafetySpooon

Ай бұрын

In Judaism, we are told that no one can see G-d and live, for the glory & might would be too much for a human to bear. So it's a fairly universal idea.

It’s possible Jinsha kingdom had a different belief system from Shang dynasty. And so unlike Shang dynasty they did not practise human sacrifice. Before the arrival of prophets and monotheistic religious gods kingdoms and cultures of diverse belief systems lived next to each other and had extensive contacts with one another. So it possible that Shang dynasty and Jinsha kingdom were two culture with extensive contacts but highly distinct cultures

OK, there was a lot of neat stuff in this episode, but the presentation made it rather difficult to parse them. The use of superlatives in the very beginning ("some say the MOST important discovery") immediately evoked suspicion about who was saying this, to whom, and in what capacity. But the connection of the multiple different sites in relationship to one another was interesting (wish there'd been more proof of the connections and discussion about how they know the connections), and seeing the layout of the building complexes was a brief, fascinating window into the lives of the people. The focus on human sacrifice was a little sensationalized and forced, as though there was a subtext being pushed about these people being more violent or less worthy than the people who gave rise to modern China. Am a little concerned about there being proteins in the stabilization glue used on the tusks, and that would thoroughly confuse a lot of current methods for dating and determining the origins of ancient biological material. It's nice that the dig sites get enclosed and rendered open to the public. That seems a lot like the La Brea Tar Pits. Hopefully, there are robust measures in place to prevent or ameliorate site contamination.

@yin_xing

28 күн бұрын

Ecxatly!

@karenneill9109

Күн бұрын

It was a common practice in colonial archeology to ascribe ‘war-like’, ‘human sacrifice’ etc to cultures to denigrate them. Whenever they find a mass grave ‘oh, it must have been a sacrifice’, instead of it being due to a plague or starvation or genocide. Someone in a posture with his hands behind his back, it might have been a criminal. Maybe they were used as ‘examples’ to dissuade crime.

Utterly fascinating

Thank you.

Droughts and floods have felled many civilisations.

@karenneill9109

Күн бұрын

And pathogens.

This is a very nice documentary regarding Chinese History. However, I do find it weird how there seems to be a kind of forced justification in the earlier part of the video that the Shu People conduct Human sacrifice. As stated in 7:38 "There is no trace of human sacrifice, However, we cannot dismiss the possibility that there were no human sacrificial practices in the ancient Shu Kingdom." I think this justifies the mindset of archaeology, that everything is indeed a theory and not a concrete definite fact, I feel like the video has been more leaning in trying to state everything as a human sacrifice without much concrete evidence to prove so. The evidence presented could be evaluated in a different sense - not necessarily human sacrifice. While it is a possibility, it is not definite. That being said, with the existing archeological discovery, I think it appears quite clear that the Shu people are highly spiritual and do indeed worship deities. That itself is something amazing to learn about but I think implying there is a strong chance of human sacrifice is still too soon.

@yin_xing

28 күн бұрын

Yes

Excellent video from an excellent channel!

The obsession this woman has with trying to figure out if these people sacrificed their own people is outrageous.

@thedeesus4249

Ай бұрын

State propaganda

@saraswati999

Ай бұрын

Hmm how is that state propaganda ? I think she is a scholar who is just curious and has a hypothesis

@Bav_ar

Ай бұрын

​@@thedeesus4249weird because this documentary isn't made by Chinese state media 😂 she studied abroad so if it's obsessive this made be because you liberal university 😂

@SafetySpooon

Ай бұрын

Yeah, some people just can't understand intellectual curiosity.

@ddding9518

Ай бұрын

This woman obvious is not Chinese

Very interesting. I want to learn more.

It IS NOT a "lost kingdom". It is a city that is something like a "missing link" between two different periods of the western Sichuan cultures, which we group together as Shu. This find is more like accidentally finding a Greek city from 800BCE we didn't know about before, it is an intermediary period we don't know much about. The OLDEST "Shu" culture we have like 6 sites for, though only one that is large and with many artifacts, and not long after Jinsha we have multiple other sites, from the very late Spring and Autumn and into the Warring States period. But the kingdom of Qin conquered the Shu kingdom, and then the Ba-Shu people of eastern Sichuan, and the culture was essentially wiped out through forced assimilation. Only tiny remnants of their language and culture are still around. Jinsha was (likely) the capital of more like a series of hegemons or something like city-states, it is hard to say for certain.

You have a wonderful voice ,great narrator 👍

Jinsha museum actually takes forien speaking students as volunteers, every year.

@yin_xing

28 күн бұрын

為啥？

@gaborszegedy1673

2 сағат бұрын

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LOVE HOW U DID YOUR VIDEO, IT IS GREAT I ENJOYED IT, THANK YOU, SHARE, SHARE

Please provide audible translation for listening as a Podcast

Did they show Viking Celt symbols (6:31 minutes) I want to know how and why

The editor needed warm milk and a blanket.

@AnnaAnna-uc2ff

2 ай бұрын

and you

@DonnellOkafor-pd7yn

2 ай бұрын

I like the narrator

@UATU.

2 ай бұрын

@@DonnellOkafor-pd7yn me too

Wait, so they suddenly found dozens of elephant tusks while they were conveniently filming this show? Not only that, the dirt isn't compacted, but loosely tossed around them so it can be easily brushed away in front of all the guest in a short amount of time?? Not only that, but since they just discovered this huge discovery in the middle of the viewing area, it means they decided to build this entire building before they even completed the excavation of the site and would have damaged all of the other artifacts they didn't bother looking for??? Not only that, they just jam wooden pegs in dirt trying to force a very thin piece of gold foil out and then physically bending it, not at a table applying gentle pressure with gloves mind you, but in front of other cameras that are there for this big discovery???? Everyone needs to compare how they are treating these relics compared to every other modern excavation with trained personal, not ones trying to film a show piece and make money through exhibitions.

@PimpessRockstar

2 ай бұрын

You realize everything was probably staged for the documentary right? You almost certainly aren't watching the original archeological dig.....

@lenabreijer1311

2 ай бұрын

Lol did you really expect to see the original dig? Of course it is reenacted for the camera in good lighting, good weather with nice looking clean crew!

@TheYah00netstar

2 ай бұрын

It´s all faked...

@6Euphoria6

Ай бұрын

Oh the gullibility

@thhseeking

Ай бұрын

It's a typically over-dramatised documentary made for U.S. audiences.

The artifacts aren't "spoils".

@DS.proudkiwi

2 ай бұрын

Everything in China is spoils of evil

i'm from India love to know about other culture and rich in history. lovely

The ancient people where talented intelligent and creative we know so little of our ancient past No mention of aliens …

The chinese just in last few years have made this site known yet it was discovered over 23 yrs ago.

@user-uv9tl4jt8w

Ай бұрын

Autocratic countries have many secrets, while democracies rarely have secrets.

@dokkiro

Ай бұрын

@@user-uv9tl4jt8w Not true.. Squid game was real. And also democratic countries have these collective lies about communist countries. For example during Korean war if a communist soldier raped an old lady, he was shot dead immediately. If an American soldier raped a little kid? You already know the answer.

@aureliadiwu_cotofan

Ай бұрын

That’s not true. It’s been famous within China, it’s just the West has never interested to get to know about Chinese history. I’m from Chengdu so I can tell you that has been a greatly known

@andromedamessier3176

Ай бұрын

@@aureliadiwu_cotofan yet at the same time it was a mystery. Honestly, 5000 years old history is in fact just lost kingdoms.

I love the information but the music is awful. It’s anxiety inducing. Ever since reality shows became a thing, intense music coupled with situations that do not warrant it became the currency for keeping the attention of the audience. I wish they would kick it like A&E/History Channel, pre Fuck Dynasty and Pawn Scums. A time whence one could let ones mind melt thru the millennia without a care.

you should look into doing a joint episode of the china history podcast by lazlo montgomery.

According to the epic Book of Kings, Shah-Nameh * by Firdusi, 640 -1040 AD, religious human sacrification was Banned nearly 4500 B.C. worldwide by order of Key-Goshtaceb. But this Statue is the Statue of Key-Cyaavash, who was executed innocently by his uncle Afraasyab with his hands tied on his back! Then, it became a religion, and this Statue was their religious style!

And Jinsha people also had an elaborate form military division, many kinds of weapons and possibly their own system of martial arts. Martial arts stems from beneficial exercises and observing nature so they might have had their own systems of exercise a rudimentary but similar system to Yoga or Ti Chi

lot of the artifacts look like Maya, Inca, Eskimo Inuit and other civiizations all over the world great article

This most interesting

@DS.proudkiwi

2 ай бұрын

Not really all CCP lies

I think it amazing finding a lost world but digging all those graves and leaving it exposed for all to see I find this spiritually hurtful for those who now can not rest in peace 🕊️

They clearly had a vibrant handicrafts and artisan communities considering all the statues sculpted? Have they decided to name the style of sculpturing the Jinsha style of sculpting?

The movie you are thinking of is called The Holiday and it’s a scene with jack black and Kate winslet when the are inside of a blockbuster type store.

Wait, we're talking about SanXingDui right??

It’s possible that people used to bring back remains of humans in war, sometimes humans who died violent deaths may not have had their body parts dis levered and some missing. And so whatever body part remain it was brought back for funeral services

I didn't know gymshark was that old

This archaeologist is trained in the western regime where she gives the impression of gaining fame out of something that has been overlooked by the mainland archaeologists who worked long hours to arrive at certain remarks they made, and certainly not trying to get instant fame.

Ave seen a peculiar Khmer bronze statue that bore facial features from the grotesque style of this culture - suggestive of some cultural exchange at 5he time.

23:13 They worshipped: 1. Sun, 2. Moon, 3. Rivers/Waters,.4.Birds, 5. Animals associated with the Sun and the Moon or Night and Day. Almost like in ancient Egypt. Very very similar to Ancient Egypt. Cool! They also got their beginnings in Africa!

Sanxingdui in ancient China that produced stunning bronzes, jades, and gold objects. Also part of the SHU dynasty, is mixed up in here by way of a mask with oval shaped eyes. Ivory? Africa?

China looks absolutely beautiful.

But during those times even if earthquake happens the houses were made of wood n didn't get effected by it. If it was flood how deep were remain found?

They simply ran out of elephants (used them all up), so there was no way to keep the river in check, anymore. Sure, yeah, it all makes sense.

I did enjoy the adverts immensely

Time traveler needed

I couldn't help but get the idea that this was the Chinese version of a BBC documentary. Like those BBC docs, there's a lot of focus on the presenter, not just the archaeological research. Anyway, I was glad when there were some scenes of her in a red shirt. I was beginning to wonder if she actually wore exactly the same clothes every day LOL Nevertheless, it made clear there's a real archaeological site of importance. It's always Interesting to me to hear something about the ancient history of China (before the Qin dynasty). You know that Chinese civilization, old as it is, didn't just pop up out of nowhere. It's always fascinating to learn something about the precursors to what we now call "China".

Very interesting, just another site to visit when I finally do get to China and the world's oldest civilisation

@margadebenport7352

Ай бұрын

China is not the oldest civilization.

@southerneruk

Ай бұрын

@@margadebenport7352 2 of the oldest civilisation are the Chinese and Hindu, they were in buildings while the rest of the world was still in mud huts at the best

You can see hundreds of people in the same position -of sacrifice- in contemporary Gaza.

I hope they truly uncover the Pyramids in China properly, one day also

The only thing i don like this documentary is that it is raletively new and it was recently made, but the cinematic filter made it dusty and painful to watch....the official jinsha and sanxingdui archeo documentary look much more eyefriendly to me

There was a WHOLE lot of conjecture going on here, the host made lots of statements that can not be proven - shoddy work.

6:29 haha, You guys missed this gold egg. That pattern is extremely important to history in an extremely hidden way.

@ohmynester

Ай бұрын

Explain

@scaledsilver

Ай бұрын

@@ohmynester heaven, earth, the soul. 🌕🔺🌞

@scaledsilver

Ай бұрын

@@ohmynester Daoist alchemy. The highest secret is hidden in that. What they call the magnum opus. Or atleast thats what jinnha says

@scaledsilver

Ай бұрын

@@ohmynester it goes deeper than that. The symbols have multiple layers of understanding

@scaledsilver

Ай бұрын

@@ohmynester all on one plate, means all as one. as Tao, or the idea of ☯. The deeper meaning is used to solve 🌕🔺🌞 which is used to get 🪙 from ⚫

There's much tp be learnt.

Any resemblance to statues at Easter Islands which has its own fascinating story? Bottom line is the human communities leaving us with great artifacts and sophisticated achievements be it in graves or places of worship!

It's an ancient practice to bury people with the things they loved during their lifetime. Eg:dogs, swords, pottery. Although pottery doesn't seem important but think about times when it would be hard to procure even a piece of metal. Lol..

So Jinsha kingdom, symbol was the Sun and the Bird

i want to know is there relationships between Shimano culture and native Americans like Aztec

Maybe my people the Mizo's from Mizoram ,North East India came from this place

There must have been many named tribes who formed a congregation or confederacy at Jinsha. Because all these are totem symbols and an organised from of animism. And an organised form of animism or shamanism only arises when humans organise themselves into tribal groups. And large kingdom such Shang or Jinsha arise when multiple tribal group unit to form a single political unit

Is there a dna trace to find the descendents?

Seems she stayed at chengdu shangrila or sofitel

Where were the nearest elephants at that time?

As a historian,i would say this site of Jinsha could be considered as a colony like Hongkong thousands years ago. Its technology is much advanced than other of china at that time. It’s a Quite simple and topical paradigm in history itself .nothing special.

I would have liked to see the videos on china history. Unfortunately, i can't clearly read the subtitles. Please put a black background behind the white subtitles. Otherwise, I'm not going to strain my eyes trying to read. Thanks

@terryl858

Ай бұрын

Yes the Chinese seem to make a habit of this white words on a white background

@OloRishaCreole504

Ай бұрын

You can change the color of subtitles in CC area

@guyanaspice6730

Ай бұрын

@@OloRishaCreole504 that's for YT subtitles. I'm referring to the subtitles created in the program; it is different. Appreciate your advice though.

Interesting topic but I found the presentation lacking. Found an archeological site of an ancient civilization and immediately you question if there was human sacrifices? Like are there more important things to know. Like did they have written languages. Did they have contact with tribes in the Yellow River region. Not to mention the Shu Kingdom isn’t something new at all. And this was also not the first archeological site of Shu.

@danielr700

3 күн бұрын

Can't agree more, I just don't get it why she's so convinced on that human sacrifices topic.

Did the Jinsha kingdom people also believe in ´The Mandate of Heaven’?

O.... that's why all the Mammoths are gone.

Why is everything human sacrifice? It could be enemies of war, criminals etc. This is Western archaeology learning.

These documentaries NEVER state the dna…which could open up the avenues of who and what they actually were.

Too much action inspired camera movements and too much repeating. Be still and focuse for a while. How hard can it be?

It may take awhile to reconstruct their culture. But we can confirm the basics they had a political institutution, they had an authority figure, they believed in after life since they had burials. Whether they believed in gods or were nature worshippers or were atheistic is a matter of debate. The language they speak also matters. Has their been a discovery of inscriptions? What language did they speak? What is the genetic make up or genome of the bones and skeletons discovered?

I always enjoy watching your videos❤❤By the way I was first🎉🎉

Bronze times kingdom with no inherent letters in suchyan,China.

24:10 Why are trees found near water being worshipped? Hmmmmm🤔 ... Maybe because wood floats? 🤔 and lives can be saved by using such a "miracle" in water?🤔

So tired of her asking if there were sacrifices. I mean really. It was obvious that.there were.why hype it up? Next documentary please 🥺

lost kingdom found in the downtown area of a 20m population city 😅

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Like Joe Friday said, just the facts maam.....that was a very SLOW video.

So when are they going to find the space ships and advance technology.?😂

Blinding with stick?

i hate sensationalism masquerading as science. After 5 minutes, i just turned it off. so sad...

This thing’s difficult to watch. It as much about Agnes as it is about Jinsha.👎 I’m gonna watch the CCTV documentary instead.

may be the people god with protruding eyes were not from China that's why he looked different and they made him a god

I'm sure she'll get better at presenting with more experience. Was this her first time on camera?

Interesting finds. Two commonalities exist in other world mythologies. 1) The sacrifice statue. These sacrifices were all young men with weapons. The shaved heads and the direction they were believed to be kneeling in are symbols we've seen before. People who follow religions that do not 'cut their hair' are Sikhs or those following Orthodox Judiasm. The two braids might be the 'side braids you see on Orthodox Jews. Cutting the hair on behalf of a prisoner could be a declaration of understanding of this invading army's religion and punishing them for a major offense against the local people's religion. Islamic cultures pray facing Mecca. Mecca is in a South West direction. Perhaps these sacrifices were an invading army of peoples attacking the local tribes and the Shu sat between them in a sort of military encampment protecting the other civilization to the East. 2) The ivory tusks. Some of these burials were found holding ivory tusks right. Well elephants are found towards India and Myanmar. If an invading army brought a bunch of elephants thinking to overpower this community by animal power....and the Shu defeated them army would you not tell them to relay to their gods that this was not enough to defeat the Shu peoples upon release of their souls? They might sit in a direction pointing to their homelands so that their escaping spirit will be released in that direction upon death.

This "documentary" reminds me why I dont bother with cable/the history channel anymore. It's supremely frustrating, but the bits of actual history are interesting enough that I keep watching for the next tidbit. Like, the whole BS narrative of the presenter discovering this history from scientists who are clearly much more knowledgeable is absolutely obnoxious. Its boring to watch her "discover" things that have long been discovered. I font really care about discovering if they engaged in human sacrifice, the bare bones "whats been found" part is way more interesting.

That's a hornbill.

❤

did the shu culter have shoes lol.

So we the Modern Era aren't the ones responsible for the extinction of ivory-growing animals? That cache has got to be an extinction cause quantity in itself! 😮🤔🤔🤨🧐

What if that statue was jus made by a crazy person that likes ppl getting tired up and it don't actually have any meaning? Like a lot of people nowadays sculpt a lot of things but most don't have any message or a meaning behind it 🤷🏻‍♂️

Did anyone noticed the status hairstyle look like the North Korea leader? lol

So, rhe ancient Chinese were Druids. Got it.

The presentation is enthusiastic but jumbled. It cries out for a single voice narrator, not the present Whack-a-Mole narrative preferred by current producers. Throw in the breathless pronunciation of "sacrifice" each time along with unescessary exposition of the peripatetic sort, "I'm driving 38 kilometers on my way to find out if the x (breathless) sacrifices were preceeded by the (excited whisper) sacrifical items of the y people." Gasp! it gets tiring and cannot be followed by the blind because instead of starting a statement or a reading in a quickly fading vernacular voice superseded by English, the vernacular continues which means only sighted people can read the captions. Compare this with the Fall of Civilizations series to understand my garbled explanation. (Sorry)