Useful timestamps: 36:28 Is it permissable to curse the Sahaba? 40:38 Do Shias think that Sunnis are proper Muslims? 42:31 Message to Sunni Muslims 48:01 Shia books to read for more information 51:00 Khomeini and Taqiiyya 1:01:33 Shia scholar on Abu Bakr and Umar 1:02:53 Are Shias a homogenous group? 1:03:56 Umayyid's cursing Ali 1:07:00 Shias have the same Quran 1:07:46 Similarities and Differences It was a nice conversation overall though a bit dry. I have known Shias all my life so many things were not new to me. Thank you Brother Paul for building bridges and having the courage to post this video. Some Muslims have a conversation with a non-Muslim but not a Shia astaghfirullah. I was about surprised that the issue of Aisha r.a. was not mentioned but then again maybe that was for the best.

@BloggingTheology

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@zainiabdullah621

Жыл бұрын

How is the Kalimah Shahadah like for Shi'ism? Is there a 'Ka'bah' too where the faithfulls circumambulate located in Iran/Persia?

@user-ye9gu7wk9y

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@@zainiabdullah621 No, they have the same kaaba as us. The main difference is that annualy they visit Imam Hussein's Tomb in Karbala in a pilgrimage called Ziyara. I went to Ziyara it was nice. Food was served for free and to those who walked the whole distance, Homes were opened and tents were sat up for those who wanted to rest. In fact here in Iraq people race to host those who go to commemorate the tragedy of Imam Hussein's death with his family and relatives.

@human0_0skull

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"Some Muslims have a conversation with a non-Muslim but not a Shia" - Non-Muslims are mostly ignorant of Islam and need dawa to be educated, but the Shi'a rafidhi scholars (not the laymen) are educated; yet they curse the sahaba and the wife of the Prophet (saw). They believe that Omar (r) killed Fatima (ra) and humiliated Ali (r), among other blasphemies, astaghfirullah. What this guy did is Taqiya, they (rafidhi) believe that they can hide their beliefs. What do you have to discuss with someone who believes that he can lie to you without consequences ?

@bluerose04

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@@human0_0skullby Logica we are no different because you don't accept that a person has a right to choose the successor(shura) , for you it's doctrine. That's why you can't accept someone who challenges they don't believe Abu Bakr is a successor, if you really believe he was chosen by vote (shura) then you will automatically understand others will differ who they believe is suitable to be the next caliph and accept it. Yet you accuse Shia as rafidhi and you are no different. You think Shia not Muslims because not accepting abu Bakr. Yet you claim he was appointed to be 1st caliph by vote . If it was shura then you accept there are other will who chose someone else as a successor... Like any elections. But both Shia and Sunnah have the same fundamentalism but don't realise it.

I grew up in a Shia family and later became Sunni during personal study. Whenever I hear Sunnis say Shias aren’t muslim, that they’re liars, that they’re evil etc I think back to how loving my own family is. The truth is everyone is trying to please Allah ‏ﷻ, and He will adjudicate between us and whoever is sincere. It’s not just having correct theology but also proper character and mercy and gentleness. Advise and communicate and then leave one another to good works, and let Allah ‏ﷻ deal with whoever however He wants to. And also remember I suppose Allah ‏ﷻ accepts the sincere - not those who theologically debated and humiliated everyone else.

@silkydude

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Great comment

@samrezvani3299

Жыл бұрын

ex shia sunni here and I completley agree, most sunnis have completely different perception of shia Islam from reality, and its quite a shame, it only hurts muslims.

@SandiegoRockstar

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Many Jews and Christians are also loving towards their family and practice worship of God. What takes them away from true belief is their decision to follow rabbis and imams over divine scripture. This is especially obvious when you see Shias curse important companions and family of Muhammad (saw) who gave their lives for spreading Islam.

@samrezvani3299

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@Ali Sid 1. There is ikhtilaf over whether it kufr to curse the shahaba. 2. Not all shia curses the sahaba

@saidhashi2856

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It's true that Shias are not the same just like all Sunnis are not the same. Each has sub-sects or subdivisions. In regards to Shi'ism, there is difference between their learned Imams/leaders who wrote their books and instituted their beliefs and average shia persons who has no knowledge of Quran and Sunnah. The fundamental principle is that the ignorant is excused until the truth is made clear to him. When we say Shias are like this or like that, we are talking about their beliefs or theology and not each and every Shia individual. Everybody deserves kindness and good advise regardless of his or her beliefs. And as in regards to most Shias being good normal people; we say all humanbeings are capable of being kind and good, but that does not make their beliefs valid. There are good Christians and Jews also. Not all Jews hate Muslims. There are Jews who protect Palestinians. This is a fact.

I'm a Sunni Muslim, but I have to state that the massacre at Karbala was an absolutely disgraceful episode in Muslim history. Frankly I'm shocked that all Muslims at that time did not reject and bring to justice the perpetrators. That the Muslims allowed these despotic aggressors to continue being in power is totally shameful.

@stylesYo

10 ай бұрын

You can not judge a father on the actions of his son and his generals who are the culprits May ALLAH swt shower us with light and give us thee honour to stand with Al Nabi Muhammad pbuh on the the day of judgment

@e.k874

6 ай бұрын

@@stylesYoI’m sunni but Muaviya was already power hungry and an opponent to Ali Hassan Hussain rA

@alexmatt4012

6 ай бұрын

This is exactly how the majority of the Muslims while knowing that Ali ibn Abi Talib (RA) was the right successor, they sided with Abu Baker and Umar LA. This is why the majority of the Muslims today are on the wrong path. You answered yourself.

@jrock2019

6 ай бұрын

@@alexmatt4012What is LA? Are you practicing taqi right now? Watch your mouth. Never talk about great sahabas if Islam

@alexmatt4012

6 ай бұрын

@@jrock2019 screw Umar and Abu Baker the cowards. What are you gonna do?

Thanks Paul! As a Sunni, I applaud your commitment to educate on Islam from all viewpoints and beliefs. I believe that providing access to a wide range of perspectives and information is crucial in fostering understanding and tolerance between different groups. Censorship can only serve to limit our understanding and does not promote truth or tolerance.

@TawheedPromoter

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Shia Rafidha is all together different religion. Al-Ghadīr (1/214-216): “Verily the [Twelve] Imāms are the sons of Allah and from the offspring of ‘Alī.” It is not permissible for you to lend them an ear let alone give them platform to spread their misguidance Ibn ‘Abbās (radiyallāhu ‘anhumā) said: “Do not sit with the people of desires (Ahlul-Ahwā) for their gatherings are the cause of sickness in the hearts.”

@ingamenameninolux5375

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@@TawheedPromoter why you are unfair Shias have sekts like sunnis have sekts not all shias believe in it. Pls dont listen to the scared Salafs, they dont want to talk to us because they cant win a debatte. the truth is the most importent think. I believe in Allah s.w.t. only and his Messenger a.s. I dont pray to Ali or Husseyn or Hassan a.s. / And i dont make Kufur on Abubakar, Omar or Uthman. All Startet with Muawiya and if you start to look at it, you will finde out that the Salafs are just builde to Protect the Royal Families, Like they Protecting Muawiya by trying to pull him under the Umbrella of Sahabis, to give him a nearly Masum like status Wa ihadu bilLAH. May Allah guide us All and make us Love him more then our Fathers or shoolars or anypersone on Earth and in History. Jasak Allahu Rheran

@ingamenameninolux5375

Жыл бұрын

@@GwynnBlake you have the Messege of Muawiya like the Christans have the Messege of Paul

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

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@@ingamenameninolux5375 Muawiyah doesn't say there is a new Quran like paul wrote a 2nd half the bible... only she'uh pagans like komeini say there is a new Quran, go to Sunnah discourse channel.

@Ali-xx8ej

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​@@TawheedPromoter Al-Ghadir was written by a cleric in the 1900s. If you want to quote Shia Islam at least quote some authentic hadith or a primary source material.

I am Sunni, but it was a Shia friend of mine that initially gave me dawah before I converted. We might disagree on some points but it’s all love for my Shia brothers ❤️

@mahdiali872

Жыл бұрын

what points do you disagree with? I can help explain some things if you want.

@timothyroy6234

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@@mahdiali872 I don’t agree with the Shia understanding of imams and religious authority, I think the 12th imam hiding in occultation is a little bit silly, I see the scholarship and Hadith collections / criticism as lacking, I disagree with practices that some Shia do like cursing companions and celebrating new holidays, generally without being called out by other Shia. No hate towards Shia though like I said.

@mahdiali872

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@@timothyroy6234 Well the Shia understanding is in the Quran. There are so many instances of Allah appointed people in positions of leadership, such as King Saul, Prophet Harun, Prophet Adam, etc. Nowhere in the Quran does it say to elect a leader from yourselves. Prophet Musa (as) left for what he thought was 30 days, but he still went ahead and placed Prophet Harun as the final authourity. And still somehow those Bani Israil who were saved from slavery and experienced so many miracles still managed to apostate. So why would the Last Prophet (saww) of Allah (swt) leave his ummah with no leadership after he died? He wouldn't come back right, and there was no other Prophet to come after him. This creates the need for appointment. If you read the sermon of Ghadeer, no matter the narrator, there is this one line that reads Man Kuntu Mawla fa hadha Aliyun Mawla. Now Sunnis like to say Mawla means friend, but based off of the context and the word used in the Quran, that makes no sense at all. First of all this was during his farewell sermon. They stopped int he middle of the burning desert, called all who were ahead to come back and all those behind to catch up. Then they built a pulpit for the Prophet to stand up on and give an hour long speech known as the Farewell Sermon. He had known he would die soon, so he made it clear who would succeed him. He raised Imam Ali's arm up and said that line. If you read the text of the whole sermon, it is very evident. Also Sayyidah Fatimah (sa)'s sermon of Fadak in the court of Abu Bakr also reflects this position giving to Imam Ali (as) by the Holy Prophet (saww). Now the Quran also uses a similar word to Mawla, Wali. it shares the same root word. In the Quran, Allah says إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ ‎﴿٥٥﴾‏ Only your Wali is Allah, His messenger, and those who believed, establish the prayer and give the zakaah while in ruku' 5:55. This last criteria only applies to Ali ibn Abi Talib (as). There is no other evidence pointing to anyone else at the time. Allah also says ۞ وَإِذِ ابْتَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ ۖ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا ۖ قَالَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِي ۖ قَالَ لَا يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ ‎﴿١٢٤ When his Lord tested Abraham with certain words and he fulfilled them, He said, ‘I am making you the Imam of mankind.’ Said he, ‘And from among my descendants?’ He said, ‘My pledge does not extend to the unjust.’ 2:124 يَوْمَ نَدْعُو كُلَّ أُنَاسٍ بِإِمَامِهِمْ ۖ فَمَنْ أُوتِيَ كِتَابَهُ بِيَمِينِهِ فَأُولَٰئِكَ يَقْرَءُونَ كِتَابَهُمْ وَلَا يُظْلَمُونَ فَتِيلًا ‎﴿٧١ The day We shall summon every group of people along with their imam, then whoever is given his book in his right hand-they will read it, and they will not be wronged so much as a single date-thread. 17:71 وَجَعَلْنَاهُمْ أَئِمَّةً يَهْدُونَ بِأَمْرِنَا وَأَوْحَيْنَا إِلَيْهِمْ فِعْلَ الْخَيْرَاتِ وَإِقَامَ الصَّلَاةِ وَإِيتَاءَ الزَّكَاةِ ۖ وَكَانُوا لَنَا عَابِدِينَ ‎﴿٧٣﴾‏ We made them imams, guiding by Our command, and We revealed to them [concerning] the performance of good deeds, the maintenance of prayers, and the giving of zakat, and they used to worship Us. 21:73 إِنَّ عِدَّةَ الشُّهُورِ عِندَ اللَّهِ اثْنَا عَشَرَ شَهْرًا فِي كِتَابِ اللَّهِ يَوْمَ خَلَقَ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ مِنْهَا أَرْبَعَةٌ حُرُمٌ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ ۚ فَلَا تَظْلِمُوا فِيهِنَّ أَنفُسَكُمْ ۚ وَقَاتِلُوا الْمُشْرِكِينَ كَافَّةً كَمَا يُقَاتِلُونَكُمْ كَافَّةً ۚ وَاعْلَمُوا أَنَّ اللَّهَ مَعَ الْمُتَّقِينَ ‎﴿٣٦﴾‏ According to ibn Mansur's Lisan al-Arab, another word for Shahr is scholar. This ayah says there are 12 shuhoor, and that this is the upright religion. But are the number of Months really that important that it is a core aspect of Islam? The 5 times this phrase is mentioned ( ذَٰلِكَ الدِّينُ الْقَيِّمُ‏‏) show the 5 usul of Din according to Shia theology and aqaid. If we were to take the meaning of scholar, then the ayah would read that there are indeed 12 'scholars', referring to the 12 Aimmah of Ahlulbayt. Allah also says إِنَّمَا يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيرًا ‎﴿٣٣﴾‏ Indeed Allah desires to repel all impurity from you, O People of the Household, and purify you with a thorough purification. 33:33 which already proves their infallibility. Even in Sunni ahadith, there is a sahihi hadith which reads مَنْ مَاتَ وَلَمْ يَعْرِفْ اِمَامَ زَمَانِه مَاتَ مِيْتَةً جَاهِلِيَّةً “He who dies without knowing the imam of his time dies the death of ignorance.” This shows the importance of an Imam. Who will guide us then? Fallible people will only lead to corruption, as is clearly evident in history. Umar created so much bid'ah which was then built upon by the Umayyads. They persecuted the Shia and killed the Aimmah of Ahlulbayt. This is why Shia is correct. Here is also Imam Mahdi (ajtf) in sunni ahadith: www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia/sunni-documentation-imam-al-mahdi I suggest you read these: www.al-islam.org/imamah-and-khilafah-murtadha-mutahhari/imamah-quran en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imamate_in_Shia_doctrine#:~:text=By%20the%20verse%20Quran%2C%202,can%20be%20without%20an%20Imam. www.zurarah.com/ As for shia corpus lacking, that is a huge misunderstanding on your part. First you have to actually observe, then make judgement. But let me ask you this. Abu Hurayrah narrated 5374 ahadith while only spending 2 or 3 years with the Prophet. Is that not absurd? www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia/abu-hurairah-or-paul

@iMan-610

5 ай бұрын

​@@timothyroy6234 Quran 25:74 shows very clear that every rightous believer can be IMAM(leader) of believers. Meaning not only from bloodline of Prophet a.s. (25:74) "who are prone to pray: "Our Lord! Grant us that our spouses and our offspring be a joy to our eyes, and do make us the IMAMA (leaders) of the God-fearing."

@iMan-610

5 ай бұрын

​@@mahdiali872 Allah appointed Prophets,but not non-prophets. Quran 25:74 shows very clear that every rightous believer can be IMAM(leader) of believers. Meaning not only from bloodline of Prophet a.s. (25:74) "who are prone to pray: "Our Lord! Grant us that our spouses and our offspring be a joy to our eyes, and do make us the IMAMA (leaders) of the God-fearing."

guys please stay respectful in the comments, no matter if you are sunni or shia :)

@abdirahimmah7541

Жыл бұрын

Are you a shia sister?

@justicevidanes4072

Жыл бұрын

Sushi's ftw. I tried to laugh then Allah sent thunder.

@beehivepattern5695

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@@abdirahimmah7541 You mean Taqiya 🤨

@annas.1695

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@@abdirahimmah7541 No, alhamdulillah muslim.

@abdirahimmah7541

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@@annas.1695 what madhab do you follow?

I'm a Sunni Muslim revert. However since I was not raised Muslim I am interested in the Shia Sunni differences. People should be able to listen and discuss differing beliefs in an academic way ESPECIALLY if you are secure in your beliefs.

@uthman2281

Жыл бұрын

There is Islam and there is Shiaism

@zayn3134

Жыл бұрын

Wach debate adnan rashid and shia you will gain knowleage.

@justadude9110

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Islam came to liberate people from the rule of priesthood. This is the only thing that differentiates Islam from the rest. As a sunni, I even believe those early sunni muslims who fought against the relatives of the prophet were justified in order to prevent Islam to turn into this royal blood related corporation where only the chosen ones get to dictate what is right and what is wrong. With that being said, i respect shias and we can learn from some of their hadeeths and teachings that do not go against the Quran

@ArChi285

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Shia Islam is the original Islam. Sunni is not in the Qur'an nor in the hadiths - it is a bid'ah. Shia is in the Qur'an and hadiths.

@saliksayyar9793

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It is a political issue, Shia believe in genealogical claim to piety as the only claim to leadership. They believe in dynastic rule which they obtained from Iranian kingship model. So the progeny through one of the daughters of the Prophet (saww) as the only legitimate with political and religious authority. Dynastic rule has no place in Islam and per Tabari even Ali (rta) was agnostic whether his group and followers should do allegiance to his son Hassan (rta). Problem is that the three main groups of Shia, the Twelvers, Seveners and Fivers each claim their rulers/Imam were divinely appointed. The embarrassment is that God (nauzubillah) surely could not have erred. Thus Shias opened a back door to a continuation of Wahi. The problem of dynastic legitimacy became acutely problematic when the 12 imam probably was non existent and had to be hidden. Seventy years later the three interlocutors died and another crisis arose . So the greater occultation was invented. Any one knowledgeable of genetics will see through as ignorance because the genetic material is halved with each generation. There is no evidence of appointment of Ali (rta) , he was much junior than the trusted companions of the Prophet (saww) and the community taught the Shura principie were united In the election of AbuBakr, Omar and Uthman. Shiaism first arose as partisans of Ali (rta) as a political party and murdered Uthman. After the tragedy of Karbala it became a religion. The two heavy things are the Qur’an and the Sunnat. Ali (rta) is not mentioned in the Qur’an. The Ghadeer is a minor event . It makes zero sense, because Ghadeer occurred after the final sermon. If it was any consequence the Prophet (saww) would have announced when virtually all the Muslims were present at the hajj. Ghadeer was meant reduce the friction between Ali (rta) and those who felt they had not been fairly treated by him. Shia history is narrated to retrospectly fulfill their ideological position. When given power the Shia have killed Muslims or gone to war against them, but not against non Muslims. The Saffavid brutal rule is testimony to forced conversions, war against the Ottomans and alliance with the Portuguese who were sinking ships carrying pilgrims to Makkah. Recently the Iranian Shia regime collaborated in the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan and then in collaboration with the torture regime of Assad, unleashed genocide on Syrian Muslims with help of Hizbullah and the Russian war machine . In India they support the Modi govt and demolition of Babri masjid. The Quran considers the wives of the Prophet(saww) as the ahl albayt. Which makes sense because they could not work or remarry and stay at home. Whereas Ali (rta) was a warrior and had his own household, so he was not helpless. The Shia appear to be confused between the ahle bayt in the Qur’an and their interpretation, whereas in 7th Century Arabia, women after marriage were ahle bayt of their husbands. For example Ayesha (rta) is mot referred to as ahle bayt of AbuBakr (rta) rather, as mentioned in the Qur’an , the ahle bayt of the Prophet (saww). Loosely the term can be applied to other related households or clans. The republican impulse of Islam as Shura, as in the Qur’an and in the election of four rightly guided caliphs is absent in the Shia political thought .

I appreciate your brave approach Paul. You are the only Sunni Muslim theologian who shares the platform with the Shia Muslim. Thank you Dr. Jaffa for the great presentation of the Shias point of believe . Shiites and Sunnis unit more then we think. 👏👏

Thank you both for making this interview happen, and thank you for posting this. Very informative as usual 👏🏻

Brother Paul Williams, Thank You for bringing this up with the other brother. Such healthy dialogue will heal the wounds of our community, and will shrink the gap between sunna and shia Muslims.

Salam! If you would be able to do talk with Dr. Seyyed Hossein Nasr that would be brilliant.

@BloggingTheology

Жыл бұрын

Wa alaykumu s-salam yes indeed!

@EXRampage

Жыл бұрын

The only Muslim ever in the Library of Living Philosophers. That would be delightful indeed! @BloggingTheology

Thank you for this video. I was really looking forward to watching it.🌸

Outstanding discussion - understanding and reconciliation with our Shi'a brothers is long overdue.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

Жыл бұрын

"reconciliation with our Shi'a brothers" - maybe Zaidis if you are a Muslim but she'uh in origin is not Islam as ebn saba declared Ali a god and komeini said ther eis a new Quran or Assad says he is a god on Earth, like the old and new testament are two different religions...

Many people think Shia-Sunni split is only a political division. However , theological differences are profound. Some of which are "the INTERCESSIONS OF IMAMS ON BEHALF OF MUSLIMS", "THE IFALLIBILITY OF THE IMAMS LIKE THE PROPHETS" , "VELAYET-I FAKEEH DOCTRINE" . These claims are not only lack the Quranic and prophetic evidence but also clearly against the teachings of Islam.

@willsimp1273

Жыл бұрын

It started as a tribal division . The banu hashim wanted somone from their tribe to succeed. And that tribal rivalry existed already brfore islam

@calzagly6922

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intercession is in the Quran: No intercessor can plead with Him except by His permission. [10:3] Who is he that can intercede with Him except with His permission? [2:255] On that Day, no intercession shall avail, except the one from whom Allah, the Most Gracious has given permission and whose word is acceptable to Him. [21:28] None shall have the power of intercession except one who has received permission or a promise from Allah, the Most Gracious.[19:87] Intercession with Him profits none except for those He permits.[34:23] the topic of imamate has been in debate for centuries and its foundations are laid out in the quran what there is a difference on is who fits this role and its conditions. wilayatul faqih is not a theological doctrine, it is a political theory so no need to mention it since its not a part of the faith.

@Yuki.2022

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@@calzagly6922 There is no single evidence of imama in Qu'ran. The verses you mentioned are about the day of jugement .Please don't make up things that don't existe in islam .There us no debate about something that doesn't existe in our religion.

@syed61475

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@@Yuki.2022 there is evidence of divine leadership in many places in Quran. What is NOT in the Quran is voting for Caliphs or passing down Caliphate to friends or political allies. Your belief in leadership is not based in the Quran tradition at all.

@syed61475

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@@Yuki.2022 and what is completely illogical is the belief that leadership of the Ummah was just left to chance with no guidance from Allah and his Prophet (saw). That is frankly delusional, if you ask me.

Shout out to my Shia brothers and sisters! May Amina the Holy Mother of Allah be with you all!

@imraanbulbulia80

Ай бұрын

Ustugfurilllah bro that is shirk. May Allah guide you to the straight path athlul sunnah wa jama'ah

@sayyedal-afghani7896

Ай бұрын

@@imraanbulbulia80 The New Islam is here! For Mohammed(saw) is alive today in Yemen preaching this New Islam to all people. For we are all people of the Book and children of the 99 gods...

I am originali from Bangladesh live in Canada, sunni muslim. for long time wanted to learn about sia muslim what deffrent between us. I just learn lots of new thing from your discusion i am very happy and thankfull to you guys. Thanks again

@AbuGhruba

Жыл бұрын

This does not show what Twelverism really is! Watch Sunnah Discourse channel to get a taste.

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

Жыл бұрын

Come on reading and searching yourself bro, don't be a blind follower like the other guy who is leading you to a channel that speaks lies about shia, ask them shia to learn about them bot their enemies

@akmu1990

Жыл бұрын

Yeah just watch Sunnah discourse

@deathmarch8354

Жыл бұрын

@@mhmadbedrddeen3414 Your Taqiyya wont work.Keep trying.

@Ali-xx8ej

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To learn about Shia Islam checking out the Sayyeds Ammar Nakshawani and Mohammed Baqer Al-Qazwini would be a good start. I also have a playlist called Shia Islam.

I disagree with any teachings that centred itself around mortal figures. In a hadith, the Prophet said "Narrated from Umar, I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle." Sahih Bukhari If we are not supposed to exaggerate in praising the Prophet, what more to say of other non prophetic mortal figures, which according to Sunni understanding, capable of making mistakes and do not received any divine relevations. When the first creation was ever created, the only true reality was and still is, there is the Creator and there is the created. And the Creator is what matter most and never the created, no matter what and who. And it is our duty to exalt Him and Him only.

@hamzabakkar728

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say that to the 12er shias who believe in the 'isma'(infallibility) of their imams.

@nizamm4908

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@@hamzabakkar728 Exactly why I am not a shia.

@artregeous

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damn right bro

@saidhashi2856

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It was narrated that al-Bara’ (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “The Ansaar: no one loves them but a believer and no one hates them but a hypocrite. Whoever loves them, Allaah will love him, and whoever hates them, Allaah will hate him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3672; Muslim, 75. If a man who hates the Ansaar cannot be a believer and that makes him a hypocrite, then how about one who hates the Ansaar and Muhaajireen and those who followed them in truth, and slanders them, curses them and denounces them and those who love them as kaafirs - as the Raafidis do? Undoubtedly they deserve more to be regarded as kaafirs and hypocrites, and of not being believers. Al-Tahhaawi said, discussing the beliefs of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah: We love the companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and we do not neglect to love any one of them, nor do we disavow any one of them. We hate those who hate them and who criticize them, and we only mention them in good terms. Loving them is part of religious commitment, faith and ihsaan, and hating them is kufr, hypocrisy and wrongdoing.

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

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@@nizamm4908 You are arguing that the prophet can do mistakes, Allahu Akbar, no wonder you are astray

Thank you so much for this interview Paul ! As a Shia Muslim sister in faith and an avid fan of this channel Blogging Theology , both here on KZread and on Instagram, I so deeply appreciate this segment on your channel and the work you are doing as well as your guest , Brother Jaffer, a fellow Shia Muslim brother and fellow American. I was waiting for a show like this and knew that masha'Allah you could do it ! Another great guest to perhaps have on is Robert Carter , who is also a British Muslim revert and I do believe he may be following Shia Islam.

@AestheticBoy_313

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Shia aren't Muslim they're rafidii

@farahjafferi6509

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@@AestheticBoy_313 I suggest you watch the interview and refrain from writing ignorant comments on thus respected channel.

@AestheticBoy_313

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@@farahjafferi6509 I don't need to see watch your rafiidi videos you do shirk and Cuz you do Matta and you're production of Matta shiyaa have different kalima different prayers you people take help in the name of Ali(RA) inspite in the name Of Allah shame on you and your sections who curse on Campanion of prophet so you'll beat your body until the day of judgement that's your punishment

@farahjafferi6509

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@@AestheticBoy_313 I am not going to get into aimless debates with you here. This is a video for intelligent people who want to know the truth. Not people who want to spread hate, lies and gross exaggerations.

@farahjafferi6509

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@@AestheticBoy_313 there is a terrible natural disaster going on in Turkiye and Syria now, affecting the entire Muslim Ummah and all you can do is spread hate towards fellow Muslims who 1.) Believe the ONE Lord, Allah ( SWT) 2.) Believe and follow our Holy Prophet Muhammad ( SAW) as the final prophet of Allah ( SWT) 3.)Believe in the same Holy Quran That is what makes someone a Muslim . I am ready to go I front of Allah ( SWT) , Insha'Allah but I just want to be a better person. I don't care what you think and don't need your judgement.

Very scholarly and respectable presentation! Thank you

@TawheedPromoter

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Shia Rafidha is all together different religion. Al-Ghadīr (1/214-216): “Verily the [Twelve] Imāms are the sons of Allah and from the offspring of ‘Alī.” It is not permissible for you to lend them an ear let alone give them platform to spread their misguidance Ibn ‘Abbās (radiyallāhu ‘anhumā) said: “Do not sit with the people of desires (Ahlul-Ahwā) for their gatherings are the cause of sickness in the hearts.”

Thank you Sheikh Faiyaz again for providing a clear explanation on some of the fundamentals of our tradition and to have discussed it in a genuine non- polemical manner. Thank you to the moderator whose approach was genuine and academic at heart.

Finally some content on Shi’ism thanks Paul 👍🏾. Even though I’m Sunni myself I personally consider many of our Shia brothers and sisters as Muslims 🤷🏾‍♂️. I’m going to enjoy listening to this

@abumujahid1434

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Ruling on the Rawafid Shi'ah by the Early Muslims Imam Malik: "The one who reviles the Companions of the Prophet (s) does not have any share in Islam." Jas-Sunnah 2/557] Abu Hanifah: "Whoever doubts the caliphate of Abu Bakr and 'Umar is a kafir." Jal-Sawaiq al-Muhriqh, Page: 362-363] Imam Shafi'i: "A Rafidhi will have no intercession, this is only for a Muslim." Jal-Kafaaya' 1/126) Imam Ahmad: "The Räfidah have nothing to do with Islam." [Usul as-Sunnah, Page: 82] Ibn Taymiyyah: "They are the most evil of the people of desires and deserve to be k!llëd more than al-Khawarij." [Majmoo' al-Fataawa 28/482] Imam Bukhari: "I don't see any difference between praying salah behind a Rafidhi and a Jew." Khalq Afaalul-'Ibaad, Page: 14] Imam ash-Sha'bi: "They are Jews in disguise." [as-Sunnah 1/497] Ahmad b. Yünus: "We do not eat the meat of the animal slaughtered by a Ráfidhi, because he is an apostate." (Sharh Usul tigaad Ahl ul-Sunnah 8/459)

@abumujahid1434

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@@Yuki.2022 Exactly akhi

@HK-qk9uf

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They're definitely Muslim

@hamadalkhalifa2323

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@@HK-qk9uf Most are not Muslims

@ibnmianal-buna3176

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@@abumujahid1434 BarakAllah Fik Akhi!

We need more videos like this. Not crazy Sunnis disrespecting Shias 24/7

How do Shias reconcile the clear innovations in their practices when the Prophet (SAW) clearly forbade innovation? For example, they add Ali to the Azan, even though that’s not how the Azan was given during the time of the Prophet (SAW). Allah (SWT) says in the Quran (5:3): “This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islām as religion” so how can you change something that is perfect? 🤔

@yemre634

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For example the 2nd caliph added the line "prayer is better than sleep" to the morning azan right?

@hashmo101

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What about tarawih? Isn’t that an innovation?

@hashmo101

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From a shii point of view the line in the Azan about Imam Ali (as) isn’t obligatory. It’s a reaction to so many years of people denying his divinely appointed successorship.

@kenkaneki9138

Жыл бұрын

@@hashmo101 What evidence is there to his divine successorship? What evidence is there to his infallibility? Also, please include evidence for the divine appointment of the later 'infallible' imams as well, otherwise you people are making things up.

@NK236

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@@yemre634 It's not innovation! Rasoolullah ﷺ said i' advise you to fear Allaah and to hear and obey even if an Abyssinian slave were to rule over you. For surely, he who lives from amongst you will see much differing, so it is upon you to be upon my Sunnah and the Sunnah of the Rightly Guided Caliphs. Bite on to it with your back molar teeth and beware of newly invented matters, for verily, every newly invented matter is an innovation, and all innovation is misguidance.’” Related by Aboo Daawood (no. 4607) and by at-Tirmidthee (no. 2676).

This is one of the best discussion i've enjoyed in blogging theology. Loved it.

I am really astonished to see comments from ( Sunni Muslims ) calling Shia ( brothers) and they know very well their beliefs in their imams which contradict the fundamental belief of Islam , and their hatred to the prophet by badly insulting his wives and companions .

@isafcb312

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Cowards who won’t defend the sahaba or the mothers of Islam from the slander or the Shia may Allah deal with the cowards and the slanders accordingly

@zamaiin

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Most of them are victims of taqqiyah

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

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People who think sunni and shia could united is absolutely naive, and its dangerous way of thinking

@zamaiin

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@@abumuslimal-asiani2066 when you see people like that first thing you'll notice is that it is either they're jahil or just hypocrite

@abdallaalmidfa7345

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@@abumuslimal-asiani2066 please be careful , do not use the term Sunni against Shia , always use Muslim against Shia because Shia is a different religion and this should always be emphasized .

Great discussion. Most scholars would say the source books of shia Islam are not authentic. Even Khomeini stated that Sahifa Sajjadiya is not sound in its transmission. Also, with all love and respect to our Shia brethren, just as the trinity is not found in the Bible, Imamiya is not found in the Quran, but eisegesisly forcibly read into it. No one who picks up the Quran for the first time would ever gain an understanding of anything Imamiyya related. For such a central tenant of faith it's simply not found in the Quran.

@abumujahid1434

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Ruling on the Rawafid Shi'ah by the Early Muslims Imam Malik: "The one who reviles the Companions of the Prophet (s) does not have any share in Islam." Jas-Sunnah 2/557] Abu Hanifah: "Whoever doubts the caliphate of Abu Bakr and 'Umar is a kafir." Jal-Sawaiq al-Muhriqh, Page: 362-363] Imam Shafi'i: "A Rafidhi will have no intercession, this is only for a Muslim." Jal-Kafaaya' 1/126) Imam Ahmad: "The Räfidah have nothing to do with Islam." [Usul as-Sunnah, Page: 82] Ibn Taymiyyah: "They are the most evil of the people of desires and deserve to be k!llëd more than al-Khawarij." [Majmoo' al-Fataawa 28/482] Imam Bukhari: "I don't see any difference between praying salah behind a Rafidhi and a Jew." Khalq Afaalul-'Ibaad, Page: 14] Imam ash-Sha'bi: "They are Jews in disguise." [as-Sunnah 1/497] Ahmad b. Yünus: "We do not eat the meat of the animal slaughtered by a Ráfidhi, because he is an apostate." (Sharh Usul tigaad Ahl ul-Sunnah 8/459)

@Yuki.2022

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Correction, not most scholars but all scholars said that Shi'a sources and books are not only unauthentic but they're also full of made up things .

@ADF366

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Excellent point and my argument as well for so long, why if imamah is a central doctrine of belief that it is not clearly and explicitly explained like surah ikhlas? Very trinity like argument indeed. Check all the converts, that point is very good that converts never pick up imamah or the ahmadi group's khilafa or other ideas when they read the quran, they pretty much always take the straightforward meaning and just become Muslim. For imamah and other sects someone has to manually make the case and explain to them

@mohammadmussallem1453

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Does the Qur'an teach you how to pray? No it doesn't you have to use ahadiths. Go to sunni ahadith and check for the hadith of Thaqalayn. The hadith of Ahl Al-Kisa. The hadith of Ghadeer Khum. Knowledge is free. Seek it.

@cogthusiast1150

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@@mohammadmussallem1453bad example as the Quran does tell us to pray and is filled with verses about the importance of prayer.

As a proud and confident Sunni, I want more civilized and rational understanding of Shias!

@artregeous

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good luck lmao

@moltoforte4450

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kzread.info/dash/bejne/qWh73KWKpJnWgso.html watch this highly informative lecture regarding the shia,it is full of refrences from their own books written by their imams..

@jalgaz01

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Won't happen if people keep obeserving the teachings of ibn taymiya

@OmarOsman98

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From Shia Islam a lot of deviation has been created.

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

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Dont listen to shia, they lies everyday to everyone

Why does he keep using the Prophets name without his proper salutation?

@wealthwisdom1656

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Must be careful who to take religion from! Allah musta’en

@kataangsucks

Жыл бұрын

He does towards the end as well as for Musa (as)

Thank you Paul for making your platform accessible to the Shi'a point of view. 'Ikhtilaaf' is fine, afterall, each one of us will enter our own grave, alone, and answer for our own aa'maal, hence no point cursing each other or fighting unnecessarily. A primary point of ikhtilaaf between the sects is that the Shi'a view themselves as following the Prophet's (PBUH) true teachings as narrated through his family (Imamate). While the Sunnis follow the narrative of the Sahaba. Similar to how Christians dont follow James (Christ's brother and appointed) and follow Paul instead. We can dialog on this peacefully, without resorting to violence, and leave the ikhtilaaf to academic discussions and not extend betond that. Insha'Allah.

This is a very important interview …. May Allah guide us all to have love for each other whether Sunni or Shia - we are all MUSLIMS who Believe in ALLAH and have intense love for Prophet Muhammad (saw) and his (saw) beloved family. We are all brother and sisters in Islam at the end of the day. Jzk for calling this guest and educating us all. WHAT this world needs more than anything is LOVE and GOOD MANNERS/adab… which is why Allah sent us the beloved Prophet Muhammad who was a mercy to all of creation

@Uxair_YT

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Easily Brainwashed and taken away by their taqiya

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

Жыл бұрын

the pre Islamic pagans also believed in Allah, christians also love Jesus but make him a god like many she'uhs like their founder ebn saba did to Ali... Quran refute bad things, do she'uhs denounce praying to ahl bait or komeini saying there is a new Quran in end times or iran helping the yeah hood in harb?

Have to applaud you Mr. Paul for the type of questions youve addressed.

Thanks for this Brother Paul!

@TawheedPromoter

Жыл бұрын

Shia Rafidha is all together different religion. Al-Ghadīr (1/214-216): “Verily the [Twelve] Imāms are the sons of Allah and from the offspring of ‘Alī.” It is not permissible for you to lend them an ear let alone give them platform to spread their misguidance Ibn ‘Abbās (radiyallāhu ‘anhumā) said: “Do not sit with the people of desires (Ahlul-Ahwā) for their gatherings are the cause of sickness in the hearts.”

Salaam Alaikum Br. Paul .Thank you. For interviewing this great Shia intellectual . Great effort to efface the differences in these two major branches of our faith . This is needed so much now and for a better future for humanity .

@abdirahimmah7541

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Are you a shia sister?

@786humaira1

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@@abdirahimmah7541 salaam Alakum , I am a Muslim Sister .

@RR-vh2rx

Жыл бұрын

How can a Shia be an intellectual, it is the same as the Arabs thought of Abu Jahl as being Abul Hakm, but Prophet refuted that.

@786humaira1

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@@RR-vh2rx Our Shia brs. And Srs. Are highly accomplished both secularly and religiously . Great physicians and astronomers and administrators come from their group . Even today the Director of the Mars exploration is a Shia Muslim from Iran . It does no good to think less of Shia or Ahmadi or Alavi or even Christians and Jews . We are all human beings first . We are all God’s creation first . We love God and love people just for the love of God . We can always better ourself with regards to our own religious and secular transformation , until our last . Belittling Shia saying they are not intelligent shows our own lack of it .

@deathmarch8354

Жыл бұрын

@@786humaira1 Director of Mars exploration is shia?Where did you get that from?By the way he meant intellectual shia scholar in Islam not in other profession.

since he mentioned al-kafi as an authoritative book of his twelver shi'a sect, let's read this quote: Jafar ibn Muhammad said, “Nine tenths of din are in Taqiyyah. And there is no din for a person who does not practice Taqiyyah.” [Usul al Kafi 2/217; Bihar al Anwar 75/423]

@abdelaziztobi4046

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What is Taqiyyah?

@JesusIstMuslim

Жыл бұрын

@@abdelaziztobi4046 hiding the truth which is allowed in 3 occasions in islam, in war, when avoiding to be killed and to reconcile between people / relationship. the shi'a exaggerate in this, and lie without having pressure on them, for rhetoric, their evil da'wah etc.

@aq4356

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@@abdelaziztobi4046 Covering/lying about your beliefs so the Sunnis won't oppress you or you won't lead people away due to your beliefs, as they say.

@EXRampage

Жыл бұрын

Taqiyya is in life and death situations. A Shia merely breathing is not Taqiyya 😂. There is no Taqiyya if there’s no threat to life, security, or livelihood. Educate yourself

@salmaz315

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Al-Kafi is pretty shocking to read to be honest; the similarities with the writings and claims of Batinis are hard to miss for those who have studied the movement. That's all I'm going to say. People can read and judge for themselves.

It was very interesting discussion focused on building on commonalities between Sunni and Shia Muslims. I think politics and religious clergy on both sides have historically overplayed theological differences. It is time scholars like Sheikh Faiyaz, Hussein Nasr, Javed Ahmed Ghamdi, and others continue to spread the true message of Islam.

Left Shiasm with the family. Al-Hamdellah Wish the best for all Shia. I believe in unity between us And I believe AhluSunnah to be definitely the True Islam

@Ali-xx8ej

Жыл бұрын

Why did you leave?

@mahdiali872

Жыл бұрын

what made yu leave?

@zainkhorasanee1684

8 ай бұрын

Please listen to some of the presentations delivered by Khalil Jaffer which may help to provide a clear understanding of reasons why the Shia (specially the Ithna Asheri) believe that they follow the true Prophetic Islam…

@theamirbarismillworks2253

8 ай бұрын

So you left Ahlul-bayt and became Ahlul- kitab like the Christian and jew!

@syedhussain9490

7 ай бұрын

​@@theamirbarismillworks2253 he chose power hungry caliphs over the prophets family. He also decided to ignore ghadir khumm declaration from PBUH.

This was undoubtedly 😃 a great conversation, thanks Paul.

Thanks BT for hosting this guest. How good is it to hear the truth from the horse's mouth, no intermediaries. I have always heard about Shia Islam from sources presenting it as disbelief. Perhaps intended to widen the gap between Muslims so they could never be one. 🙏 Respect.

One of the best episodes I've seen so far. Superb!

Loved this!

Salam A good book is "The brother of the Prophet" which explains in detail the position of Imam Ali.

Pure Gentleman Shia Leader! Thanks Brother Paul for such a great talk shows...

Positively surprising and very respectable approach to the Shia Islam. we need more of that within the community. Not anyone can do this, nor securely open their mind to discuss in a motion of inclusion of those who remain brothers and sisters in Islam.. especially those around us formatted to alienate others, or play God, astaghfirullah. Words of a Sunni Hanafi.

Fellow Muslim brothers, please be respectful in your comments.

@isafcb312

Жыл бұрын

Not to those who disrespect Abu bakr and umar may Allah be pleased with them, you can be a coward though

Impressive! You keep impress us, Mr. Williams, in your selection of topics, to present on your informative (BT). On top of that, your straightforward, yet classy & respectful style of discussion. Thank you, Sir. I do not recommend fellow BT viewers using this platform to writing any comment of the type: “Yes, but they do so and so.” Let’s take Dr. Jafer’s suggestion when he said: “At the end of the day, we do have, like, very real differences, but at the same time we have very real similarities.” So, let us work on the potentials he emphasized.

@mrssomeone2143

Жыл бұрын

That is in fairy land, dream

Never believe what a Shia Rafidah says (such as..rafidah or Athna‘ashariyyah or Ithna‘ashariyyah) because according to their books written by their imaams, they follow Taqiyya (lying about their religion)! I meant Al-Kafi is the MOST reliable Shia Book, as the reliable Shia Scholars. Anyone believe these following from Al-Kaafee/Kafi are NOT MUSLIM OR IN ISLAM. It seems like the speaker Faiyaz Jaffer as a Shia believer or a Rafidah. If he believes kitab al-Kafi and bihar al-Anwar, he is no longer in Islam or Muslim. ...could be a SHIA RAFIDAH. 1) The Imams have knowledge of All that was given to the angels and the prophets. ( Al-Kafi vol.1 p.255 ) 2) The Imams know when they will die, and they only die by their choice. ( Al-Kafi vol.1 p.258 ) 3) The Imams have knowledge of the past and future; and nothing is hidden from them. ( Al-Kafi vol.1 p.260 ) 4) "Bad'ah" ALLAH tells a lie. (Al Kafi, Vol. No.1, Page No. 148. A Shia doctrine.) 5) We are the eyes of the God in his creature and the final authority in all human beings. (Al Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 145) 6) The Hujjat (Ultimate proof) of God can not be established without Imam. (Al Kafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 177) 7) The Shiite Raafidaah claim that the Al Quran we have is missing 10,000+ verses. (Al-Kafi, Vol 2 Pg. 634) 8) All the ṣaḥābah (the companions of the Islamic prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam) became murtadd after the death of Rasulullah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, except three. (Rawdat Al Kafi, Vol. No. 8, Page No. 167) COMMENT: No doubt that these words are clear Kufr (Disbelief) and Shirk (Polytheism), because the knowledge of the unseen is only for Allah alone .. These words with no doubt countradict what Allah said in Surah Luqmaan "Verily, Allah With Him (Alone) is the knowledge of the Hour, He sends down the rain, and knows that which is in the wombs. No person knows what he will earn tomorrow, and no person knows in what land he will die. Verily, Allah is All-Knower, All-Aware (of things)" [Quran 31:34].

Thanks Paul for bringing a Shia for our better understanding

Guys at least watch the video before commenting.

@isafcb312

Жыл бұрын

I did and it was embarrassing

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

Shia opinion dont matter

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

@@isafcb312 it seems our brother Paul is kinda sick in head lil bit and we should make dua to Allah to fix his brain

YES! Finally blogging theology discusses this alHamdulillah

Beautiful video. Hats off to Dr Fiyaz Jaffer for presenting Shia sect. Opened my mind.

Salams. Blogging Theology does it again. It never fails to deliver value and benefit for the listeners. What an excellent discussion with the Shia professor. More discussions and dialogues are needed to bridge the gaps between Sunnis and Shias. I am a Sunni and I have engaged with Shia brothers over the last 3 decades. There are commonalities which should be the basis of mutual discussions, and there are large gaps that do need to be resolved. Dialogue in an atmosphere of brotherhood is the way forward rather than falling into fighting and killing...the hallmarks of the Khawarij. Congrats to Br. Paul for this excellent discussion. It was enlightening to see Sheikh Fayiaz not shy away from some of the tough questions Br. Paul raised on behalf of some Sunni brothers.

@ryanhunter2987

Жыл бұрын

Very well said!

Best video ever done, thanks brother Paul. May Allah (swt) guide us all inshallah

@TawheedPromoter

Жыл бұрын

Shia Rafidha is all together different religion. Al-Ghadīr (1/214-216): “Verily the [Twelve] Imāms are the sons of Allah and from the offspring of ‘Alī.” It is not permissible for you to lend them an ear let alone give them platform to spread their misguidance Ibn ‘Abbās (radiyallāhu ‘anhumā) said: “Do not sit with the people of desires (Ahlul-Ahwā) for their gatherings are the cause of sickness in the hearts.”

I'm glad to see such a civil discussion. Thank you Paul for bringing on a prominent Shi'a Muslim American academic and community leader. I hope you will invite more Shi'a Muslim leaders and thinkers onto Blogging Theology. Please watch the video before commenting! For all Muslims here, please calmly reflect before commenting, and refrain from expressing hatred toward people! Please know that to cast doubt on and reject the stated, declared Islam of one who says and believes themselves to be a Muslim is a kind of blasphemy. By calling a self-professed Muslim a non-Muslim, you dare to say that that person is outside the fold of Islam according to your own parameters of what Islam should be, and those scholars and the tradition (Sunni or Shi'a) you choose to follow and respect. You are not God; you do not know another person's mind or heart, and to presume that you do is extremely arrogant, prideful, and patronising. If someone freely and voluntarily affirms that there is no deity but the one God, and that Prophet Muhammad (may God bless him and grant him and his family peace) is His servant and Messenger, that persons understands himself or herself to be a Muslim, a submitter to, recognizer, and worshipper of the one God (called in Arabic, Allah, The God). If that person believes in the God who sent down the Qur'an that *all* Muslims use and recite and read from today, if that person loves Prophet Muhammad and all the Prophets venerated and revered in Islam (may God bless them all with His peace), they are by their own will a Muslim. You can choose to disagree with a person's view of the intended succession to Prophet Muhammad (p), you can passionately believe that you are correct and they are wrong, that your view of history and the narrations you follow and believe in are more accurate and more truthful, and that theirs is misguided, but to dare to say to a self-professed Muslim "you are not a Muslim because of X, Y, and Z" is to dare to say that you know a person's mind and heart better than they do. This is a huge sin, and extremely indecent. Nowhere in God's Word to us does He clearly say "if you believe this about Prophet Muhammad's companions, or this about his family, you leave Islam". If this was a matter of salvation, of our very souls depending on accepting the only one possibly true version of Islam on the question of sacred and political authority after the death of Prophet Muhammad (p), God in His Mercy would not have allowed these two distinct traditions to develop as they have over 1,400 centuries.

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

Shia = not Islam

@ryanhunter2987

Жыл бұрын

​@@abumuslimal-asiani2066 a worthless, brainlet answer

Thank you paul for bringing this great discussion. Your channel is great source of learning

@BloggingTheology

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

@user-tl9qh5dc3h

2 ай бұрын

​@@BloggingTheologyBrother Paul please do not spread this evil and wrong shia faith as part of Islam, it is another totally different religion based on worshiping of dead imams and self beating 😂 This is dangerous especially for new converted brothers and sisters who don't know exactly, what this evil religion is about, and who are not strong in arabic language, thank you!

@titangamer1790

Ай бұрын

​​@@user-tl9qh5dc3h Akhi, stop listening to all the negative propaganda by the Wahabbis and get educated please.

Thank you Paul for arranging this much needed discussion. I follow sunni Islam, but I also read books by Ali Shariati and Tabatabai. I hope our Shia brotheren also bring Sunni Muslim scholars and have a discussion on their side.

@ArChi285

Жыл бұрын

I have read some REAL sunni scholars and I find them not much different from shias, like Maududi, Syed Qutb, etc. But the Wahhabi-oriented scholars are so focused on anti-shia issues.

@Yuki.2022

Жыл бұрын

@@ArChi285 At all ! The difference between sunna sources and Shi'a sources is like the difference between the day and the night especially when it comes to authenticity. There's is a big difference of belief between those who call upon Allah and those who call upon Ali,Fatima and Hussain may Allah be pleased with them and with all the compagnions .

@ArChi285

Жыл бұрын

@@Yuki.2022 are you sunni?

@Yuki.2022

Жыл бұрын

@@ArChi285 Yes I'm.

@ArChi285

Жыл бұрын

@@Yuki.2022 do you know that sunni is bid'ah and bid'ah is jahannam? Sunni is not in Qur'an and hadiths, but shia is in Qur'an and hadiths. Sunni is ahlul jahannam lol

The Shia 12 Imam is a complete heresy... it's precisely like the trinity, never to be found in the oral or written tradition. If it's true, why did the prophet PBUH, Ali, or any of the Shahaba ever mention it!!! All these are a late development in the same way as Nicea council 325AD

@abumujahid1434

Жыл бұрын

Ruling on the Rawafid Shi'ah by the Early Muslims Imam Malik: "The one who reviles the Companions of the Prophet (s) does not have any share in Islam." Jas-Sunnah 2/557] Abu Hanifah: "Whoever doubts the caliphate of Abu Bakr and 'Umar is a kafir." Jal-Sawaiq al-Muhriqh, Page: 362-363] Imam Shafi'i: "A Rafidhi will have no intercession, this is only for a Muslim." Jal-Kafaaya' 1/126) Imam Ahmad: "The Räfidah have nothing to do with Islam." [Usul as-Sunnah, Page: 82] Ibn Taymiyyah: "They are the most evil of the people of desires and deserve to be k!llëd more than al-Khawarij." [Majmoo' al-Fataawa 28/482] Imam Bukhari: "I don't see any difference between praying salah behind a Rafidhi and a Jew." Khalq Afaalul-'Ibaad, Page: 14] Imam ash-Sha'bi: "They are Jews in disguise." [as-Sunnah 1/497] Ahmad b. Yünus: "We do not eat the meat of the animal slaughtered by a Ráfidhi, because he is an apostate." (Sharh Usul tigaad Ahl ul-Sunnah 8/459)

@ryanhunter2987

Жыл бұрын

That's one of the most unintelligent things I've ever read, by which you reveal your ignorance. In Shi'a books the Prophet Muhammad (S) did clearly mention the 12 Imams, though you'd obviously reject the authenticity of those books. Circular logic that you follow allows you to only accept Sunni books, and that the Shi'a books that clearly show 12er Imams laid out by the Prophet Muhammad (S) are all fabricated. I imagine it would make you very uncomfortable to even consider the idea that the Sunni hadith books are inaccurate and that a lot of authentic things were suppressed, kept from them, or censored from them by the Abbasid regime. If Twelver Shi'a Islam as it exists today was proved incorrect, I'd still remain a Muslim, and Imam Ali's merits stand unto themselves. But if Lady Fatima was correct in her dispute over Fadak with Abu Bakr, would you honestly remain a Muslim? Can you even bear the thought of being wrong? Many Sunnis over the centuries were convinced that Imam Ali was the most superior of the companions, and didn't hate the first three caliphs. I myself don't hate them because Imam Ali obviously did not rebel against their de facto political power; he at least tacitly acknowledged them as legitimate by refusing to oppose them by force of arms. Please be aware that not all Shi'a curse the first 3 caliphs or Lady Aisha (in fact, almost all Shi'a I know in real life don't do these things, and I know dozens upon dozens of Shi'as, have seen them at prayer, etc).

Would love to know more about these books and the Shia intellectual literature (especially contemporary scholarly Shia thought). Btw this was a very informative and nuanced interview, more please!

@zainkhorasanee1684

8 ай бұрын

It may be helpful for a better understanding to listen to some of the lectures of Khalil Jaffer…

If you're a Sunni here and you really want to know what Shia believe just search Sunni discourse, there you'll find books written by their own classical scholars, this guy here wouldn't tell you the truth

l love to watch your video.... Masha'Allah i learned a lot's Jazakallahu Khairan

At the end of the day, they are not the Jama’ah (Majority/main body of Muslims). I converted to the Shia sect ten years ago after being showed “proofs” from Sahih Bukhari and attracted to their adab (manners). I asked about tatbir and the cursing of the loved ones (رضي الله عنهم) of Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) and was taught that it was the ignorant and extreme members of the Shia sect that did that. I wasn’t Shia for an whole hour, after converting, and takfir was made on our Sayyid Umar ibn al-Khattab (رضي الله عنه) by one and the rest laughed in agreement. That experience was enough for me to dissociate myself from that sect.

@Loyalsurly

Жыл бұрын

Your a clown

The shia love to quote the Hadith of Thakalan, The Quran and the Prophet family, but none of them can memorise or even read the Quran properly, including their high priests in the Najaf.

@MohammadSaqib-es6oo

5 ай бұрын

Bruh in which dimension u live.

@husseinf2527

3 ай бұрын

The hate is real lmao it's OK tho

@violetta278

Ай бұрын

😂😂joke. You have Grudge There are 2 in my immediate shia family who are Hafiz. It really doesn't matter, bcz for most of the Muslims Arabic is not a native language. (There is a Trend in Pakistan, sunni ir shia both, to Memorize the Whole Quran, Arabic. ) The Kid Learns it like a parrot, *Doesn't even understand* a single sentence. Whats the Use of it? Learning the Arabic of the Holy Quran By heart? Not even understanding is of no use. Important thing is the Message, focus on Reading the Quran, Reading Translations and reading tafsir, learning it ACTING ON IT! Which Shias do properly. Just notice young Shia kids, they not only are well-aware about Islam, Islamic teachings but Practicing Islam alot more than common Sunni kids, now adays. Major example is Iran. The only Muslim country that is Practicing correctly, Islamic Governmental System. Without kingship or Monarchy or absurd dictatirships. Standing up againsts the Enemies if Islam, eye-to-eye. Being Sanctioned for 40yrs yet Raising higher and higher. And Helping oppressed Muslims around thr World.

@alimohammed4709

Ай бұрын

Don’t bother responding to this idiot. Not worth it. His name is mark….

Jazakumullah for an excellent video.

I think the most important discussion should be on the epistemic comparison and validity of both side. Also another thing is the aspect of hermeneutics in both tradition.

Brother Paul....I have an awesome idea. Please invite Dr. Ataie to have a dialogue with this Shia professor. It would be a great educational dialogue. اسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

@hashh2019

Жыл бұрын

Actually I would invite a better experienced Shia scholar like Ali Abbas Razawi, MJ Shomali, Ahmed Cherry, Moustapha /Baqir/Jawad Qazwini or even Ammar Nakshawani. The current presenter is a new PhD graduate n I wouldn’t yet consider him an experienced scholar. Im kind of surprised why he was invited.

Most shias do speak very poorly of the sahabah. I've personally heard them curse them

@samrezvani3299

Жыл бұрын

I am an ex shia, and of my extended family I only know one person who curses the sahaba, but most dont.

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

Жыл бұрын

We curse the hypocrites among the sahabah, you follow whatever, that's the difference

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

Жыл бұрын

@@samrezvani3299 And now are you a sunni ?

@samrezvani3299

Жыл бұрын

@@mhmadbedrddeen3414 yes!

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

Жыл бұрын

@@samrezvani3299 Are you willing to discuss your beliefs if you are sure of yourself?

There is no unity in falsehood. We can only cooperate in matters of this world. But in the hereafter, it's each individual and his own believes. You attain salvation based on your conduct and what you believed.

@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543

Жыл бұрын

Exactly unity with the one that disagrees with the pillars of Iman and Usul is a contradiction because you disagree far more than you agree, she'uhs pray to ahl bait like nasara do to Jesus and make them lord gods so it can only be a secular dunya agreement at best.

It is good that this guest is trying to put a moderate point of view of shias, but my own experience (as being raised in Iran) was different. Our shia teacher was saying: "If you don't believe in 12 imams as being infallible and true successors of Prophet Muhammad, then basically you are not Muslim. We might consider Sunnis as Muslim in the appearence but not from inside." Unfortunately, cursing/insulting Sahaba is an integral part of Shia faith. Their extremes utter insults openly but their moderates keep themselves away from it. It is impossible that hearts come closer together if one group loves a figure/individual while the other group hates and curses that person. That is my realistic conclusion. Nevertheless, we should not fight or kill one another because of these historical issues.

@deathmarch8354

Жыл бұрын

Are you etnhic persian just curious?

@abyzayd2022

Жыл бұрын

@@deathmarch8354 Yes, I am Persian. Iran was Sunni but when Safavids came about 400 years back, they forced people into shiism. Just like what happened in Spain. People forced to leave or convert into christianity.

@deathmarch8354

Жыл бұрын

@@abyzayd2022 God bless you brother.Its crazy to see whats happening there.

@muhammadataeiazimi2578

Жыл бұрын

He is representing the real version(better to say near to real shia maybe) of shia. Not akhundi model!

@mohammadhaider4417

Жыл бұрын

That's not true as I am also shia ; and shia are represented by Ayatullah's fatwa which clearly states that all Muslims sects are Muslims and insulting someone's personalities is prohibited! If someone does that he is ignorant and will accountable on day of judgement! Fatwa doesn't say that you have to consider them Muslims from outside and nonmuslims from inside!!! It's all our own understanding on basis of sectarian mindset that what all we Muslims have unfortunately!

Fantastic! Just 7 minutes into the video and I'm super eager. This was very much needed. Am a sunni and had heard so many misconceptions about what the shia believe. Thank you very much brothers for doing this interview

@_Gunner_

Жыл бұрын

This man is mostly speaking individually and very little about Shia Fiqh. No doubt there are sincere good people within Shia Islam but the majority loves to curse and ridicule the companions of the Prophet. It's a trend among the younger ones (teenagers) and they try to outdo one another in vile curses. The way they use Taqqiyah is also an extremely perverted version of Ammar bin Yasir's. He only lied to save his life but it wasn't part of his heart, after that he participated in the battle of Badr. The Shia sect is comparable to Christianity (trinity), it has too many shirk pitfalls so the followers are more prone to shirk, even if they perceive it not. There are entire groups within the 12er Shiasm that commit flat out shirk (Ghalis, Alawis, Ismailis etc). They consider most companions bad even though we have verses in the Quran like this: *As for the foremost-the first of the Emigrants and the Helpers-and those who follow them in goodness, Allah is pleased with them and they are pleased with Him. And He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow, to stay there for ever and ever. That is the ultimate triumph*. Allah also promised the expansion of Islam, ALL of it was done by "Sunnis" while Shia were causing trouble from within and starting dynasties with convert or die policy (Fatimids) against Sunni muslims. Alhamdulilah for Islam.

@mahdiali872

Жыл бұрын

​@@_Gunner_ people like you spread all these misinformations of Shia Islam. First of all, we should not ridicule anyone. That is not the behaviour of the Prophet (saww) and Ahlulbayt (ams). We do la'nah on the enemies of Allah just as He has done in the Quran. Taqiyyah has been used because we Shia have been targeted by almost every single ruler in history. First Abu Bakr killed Shias in the Ridda Wars, then the Umayyads, then Abbasids, Mughals under Aurangzeb, Ottomans under Selim I, etc. Taqiyya was required to save the lives. And even now, in countries like Saudi and Malaysia, Shias are still in danger, which makes taqiyyah required. How do you know how we use Taqiyyah? The misinformation people like you spread causes people to think Shiaism is Shirk. Wallahil Adhim Shiaism in not shirk. Tawassul is allowed in Islam, but no one prays to anyone other than Allah. If you have a problem with tawassul, then that is a different issue that we can address. But as per shirk, there is no shirk in Shiaism. The fact that you claim that Ismailis and Alawis are parts of Twelverism just shows your ignorance and lack of knowledge. I won't even comment about that because that is just pure ignorance on your part. There were muhajirs and ansar who were not the foremost of them that were hypocrites after them. The Ayah could mean a number of things, but there are historical examples and mentions of hypocrites everywhere then. Hypocrite could refer to you, because how can you claim that All expansion was done by Sunnis while the Shias had 'convert or die policy'? That is retardedness at its fineness. Sunnis were the ones who used convert or die, like the Umayyads, Abbasids and especially the Mughals under Aurangzeb. Fatimids aren't even real Shia, they are just Ismaili descendants of the Prophet who abused thier lineage and claimed Imamah when Imamah didn't even go through Islmail but through Musa ibn Jafar (as). Shias have always been oppressed by everyone, while Sunnis have been doing the oppressing. Look at Daesh, ISIS, and taliban. Are those Shia? No, they are sunni

Remarkably well presented by Dr. Jaffer. Indeed, Seyyed Hossein Nassr is a jewel amongst scholars whose work transcends 'sectarian' divides - his works certainly inspired me towards Islam (I am a revert, Sunni). I don't think any discourse on the historical differentiation between Sunni and Shia on the social (and eventually sectarian) level would be possible without a discussion on the political (and therefore social) dynamics of the medieval period, especially during and after the Ummayads, Dr. Jaffer alluded to this, but I don't think many people realize the long-lasting effect that it had. An honest historical perspective is important.

We are One Ummah! InshaAllah we can love and respect each other as Muslims should. ❤

@AbuGhruba

Жыл бұрын

I was deluded just like you not that long ago until I looked into Shiaism. Twelvers curse the Prophet Muhammadﷺ companions and his wife Aisha (RA) on top of various other provocative acts so its deluded to believe these so called Shi'a can get along with majority of the Muslim. Also there is a lot of history most don't know or understand, the oppressive ways the Safavids in Iran turned a entire Orthodox Muslim nation into Twelverism and the continues fitna they create to this date within the Muslim world remains.

@isafcb312

Жыл бұрын

No, we should not unite with those who commit shirk and curse the deceased like umar Ra and aisha Ra etc, you being a coward who will not defend their honour will not benefit you on the day of judgement

@mohammadmikail6664

Жыл бұрын

@mashal23 Do you even know 4 imams view on rafidis ? There is a reason no knowledgeable scholar agrees with unity with rafidis , Many scholars in past takfirred them . Due to a reason ! Only ignorant young people fall into the trap of uniting with rafidis .

Respect to you that you took this opportunity to bring forth understanding of Shia from a Shia scholar on the channel but I would strongly request you delve in this research more since most of this is a watered down presentation of Shia’s outlook which Shia scholars usually present to not stir up controversy when discussing about their viewpoints and usually they will say we are alike but this is far from the truth.

I have a shiite neighbor whom i wish the best for and have good intentions towards. Yet i say Alhamdulillah that i follow the way of the Prophet peace be upon him and his companions and family who clearly -in the Quran- received Allah’s Pleasure and great reward as we see in surat Attawbah and Alfateh. There are many scholars such as Hussein Almoayyad who has converted to the Sunnah who explained in detail the truth about shiism. And also Kamal Alhaideri who still didn’t convert but is locked in Iran for stating that Shiism was invented in the 3rd century of the Islamic calendar. May Allah guides us more.

Assalaam Alaykum and another great video brother Paul and thanks also to Dr. Jaffer. It was good to hear a different perspective and to understand the allegations.

Jazakallah Brother.Again an AMAZING dialogue

@TawheedPromoter

Жыл бұрын

Shia Rafidha is all together different religion. Al-Ghadīr (1/214-216): “Verily the [Twelve] Imāms are the sons of Allah and from the offspring of ‘Alī.” It is not permissible for you to lend them an ear let alone give them platform to spread their misguidance Ibn ‘Abbās (radiyallāhu ‘anhumā) said: “Do not sit with the people of desires (Ahlul-Ahwā) for their gatherings are the cause of sickness in the hearts.”

Brother Paul, if you could get Abu Noor Al Bahraini from Sunnah Discourse on in order to approach the subject from a different angle, that would be most interesting

@wajeehulhassan2541

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that would be nice.

👍 huge applaud for bringing this other facet of Islam. Barakallahu feek. Edit: I would reject whole heartedly his saying that the Qur'an is "difficult to navigate". It literally says God has made it easy. It is the narrated Hadith corpus that are dangerous and more difficult to navigate ... Not God's book

Thank you so much for the good discussion on shedding light about shia islam

I am curious….Had Muhammad pbuh and ultimately Allah SWT wanted Ali RA to be the next leader it would’ve been made clear to the people and if that would’ve been the case there would be no time wasting in deciding that. It’s a bit like Christianity where if Jesus pbuh was God he would have made it clear and leave it unambiguous so that later generations don’t argue about Allah’s deen.

If imamah is so central then why isn't it mentioned in the Quran?

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

Жыл бұрын

It is mentioned but you won't comprehend until you open your hearts and minds

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

Dont listen to shia trying to poison muslim mind and spread dajjalism Stay steadfast with our sunni-salafi belief and dont consider shia as muslim

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

There's nothing come out from shia mouth except lies and insults

@alimohammed4709

Ай бұрын

Why aren’t you taught how to pray in the Quran?

Sound, clear and well- expressed Dr. Jaffer. Thank you for pointing to the core of what it actually is we (muslims) should all be doing here and aiming for.

As I am listening to this blog , one thing I noticed the speaker does not say pbuh when he takes name of Prophet Muhammad ( pbuh) , is that a Shia tradition? Just curious to know !

He dodged the question of Taqiya and what Khomeini said that it is a part of Shia faith. Also, it is part their faith to curse Sahaba and they do it religiously for Sawab. So we can clearly see Taqiya in his speech and how they play the victim card when ask the hard question. They simply hide behind Ahle Bait for their disgraceful actions.

@hamadalkhalifa2323

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@mhmadbedrddeen3414

Жыл бұрын

You are a fool

@isafcb312

Жыл бұрын

Of course he did he’s a coward liar trying to sell layman Muslims on Shia nonsense

However, I will say that there should be no hostilities between Sunnis and Shi'ites despite our disagreements. There are many things we can cooperate on especially here in the West. I mean, we don't have to hold hands and sing kumbaya, but we can cooperate on common interests of the Muslims.

@artregeous

Жыл бұрын

organized religion is not for the common interest of people

@isafcb312

Жыл бұрын

Shut up, there should be hostility with those who curse the sahaba and the mothers of Islam don’t be a weak willed coward

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

Your opinion is garbage

@bez1196

Жыл бұрын

@@abumuslimal-asiani2066 thanks for sharing your profound insights, Aboo Muslim Al-Asianee Al-Salafee thumma Al-Tawheedee..

1-We, as Muslims, call for a common word that brings us together and puts all our problems on the table to discuss them calmly Until the truth is clear from falsehood, the one who is upon clear evidence and light from God Almighty does not fear confrontation because he is confident in what he has of knowledge of the religion. 2-Abdullah bin Abbas, may God be pleased with them both, held a debate with the Kharijites and argued with them with reason and evidence until 2000 of them returned to the truth and repented. All Muslims must follow the example of this great companion in his wisdom that he received from the Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him

@mohammadmikail6664

Жыл бұрын

Do you even know 4 imams view on rafidis ?

*_Sahih sunni hadith of Twelve Imams_* 📚 Jaber bin Samra said: I went with my father to the Prophet, may God bless him and grant him peace, and I heard him [the prophet] say: This authority of Islam doesn't end *_unless 12 Khalifas have passed_* . Then he spoke words I couldn't hear . I asked my dad : What did he say ? He told me , the prophet said : All of them are from Quraish" Narrated by Al-Bukhari (No. / 7222) and Muslim, and the wording is that of the latter (No. / 1821).

Great to hear Shia point of view. Understanding removes incorrect assumptions and unnecessary contentions.

@abumuslimal-asiani2066

Жыл бұрын

Implying he dont taqiyya that you can trust whatever came from his lying shia mouth

wow Paul, thank you! Finally someone from the Shia side- wanna hear what it is right now. Thanks for your service.

So while the sunni follow caliphs, the Shia follow imams from the prophet's line.

ASAK gentleman. Thank you for such a reasonable, respectful and interesting discussion providing alternative perspectives on various events after the demise of the Prophet (PBUH). I was especially interested in the ‘Spiritual Pslams’ mentioned as written by the 4th Shi ite Imam? and the relationship mentioned between the 6th Shi ite Imam & Imam Abu Hanifa too. I also understand the 6th Imam was at one time the respected ‘Mufti of Medina’ and there are narrations in Sunni hadith books attributed to him. I also heard that his lineage goes back to both the Prophet (PBUH) and Abu Bakr (RA) & perhaps why he is respected in both traditions? I know traditional Sunni Islam also has a particularly respect for the near family of the Prophet and Ali Fatemah Hassan & Hussain although that emphasis seems strangely to have declined in more recent times (30/40 years) with a greater emphasis on the Prophets companions. It was particularly interesting to hear that the split between Sunni & Shia was exaggerated during the times of Safavid dynasty and the modern day sectarian polemics were not so overtly prevalent during the formative years? Something that both Shia & Sunni as Moslems could & should reflect on! Thx again for an interesting discussion.

Political shia of the time of Sahaba and Shia Islam of today has notions that can't go together. The Hadith of course tells us to follow Aale bayit but grave worshiping is the negator of Monotheism.

@abumujahid1434

Жыл бұрын

Ruling on the Rawafid Shi'ah by the Early Muslims Imam Malik: "The one who reviles the Companions of the Prophet (s) does not have any share in Islam." Jas-Sunnah 2/557] Abu Hanifah: "Whoever doubts the caliphate of Abu Bakr and 'Umar is a kafir." Jal-Sawaiq al-Muhriqh, Page: 362-363] Imam Shafi'i: "A Rafidhi will have no intercession, this is only for a Muslim." Jal-Kafaaya' 1/126) Imam Ahmad: "The Räfidah have nothing to do with Islam." [Usul as-Sunnah, Page: 82] Ibn Taymiyyah: "They are the most evil of the people of desires and deserve to be k!llëd more than al-Khawarij." [Majmoo' al-Fataawa 28/482] Imam Bukhari: "I don't see any difference between praying salah behind a Rafidhi and a Jew." Khalq Afaalul-'Ibaad, Page: 14] Imam ash-Sha'bi: "They are Jews in disguise." [as-Sunnah 1/497] Ahmad b. Yünus: "We do not eat the meat of the animal slaughtered by a Ráfidhi, because he is an apostate." (Sharh Usul tigaad Ahl ul-Sunnah 8/459)

@ryanhunter2987

Жыл бұрын

No one actually worships graves. That's a really dumb thing to accuse anyone of. I've been to the main Shi'a shrines and they don't worship the dead or believe that those in the tombs are deities. Why do you spout such slander against people who believe and declare in their prayers, day after day, La Ilaha Il-Allah, Muhammadur Abduhu wa Rasuluh? It is a blasphemy to accuse a self-professed Muslim of not being a Muslim.

Very very disappointed with this one. Anyone who disrespect our mother A’isha May Allah be pleased with her and accuse her of zina is a kaafir and not a Muslim because he rejects Allah ayah of clearing her name. Imagine calling most of the sahaba kuffar, the same people who died and transmitted the pure Islam to us.

@hashmo101

Жыл бұрын

Shii’s do not accuse her of zina. Maybe some in the past have. But it certainly isn’t in mainstream Shiism that I’ve come across.

@kenkaneki9138

Жыл бұрын

Bro yours is subjective experience, the fact is the majority of twelver shias curse like half the sahaba its insane, this is clear kufr when Allah praised them in the Quran.

@sunshineseaandvitamind8620

Жыл бұрын

Please if they were kaafir like you said, Saudi Arabia wouldn't allow them for hajj! You can disagree with them but you don't have to use this hateful language.

@humaninside

Жыл бұрын

Imagine calling the Prophet's (PBUH) parents as "Kuffar", and calling the most beloved uncle who protected the Prophet (PBUH) all his life as "Kaffer" - isn't it what most Sunni do based on traditions collected almost 250 years after the Prophet (PBUH)? Look at yourself before you look at others. BTW, I'm from a Sunni family. I now humbly call myself a Muslim (neither Sunni, nor anything else, only Muslim).

@data4pass

Жыл бұрын

Shi'ites (other than the Aga Khanis) are Muslim. Ibn Taymiyyah r.h. even went so far as saying that ijma claims of a position couldn't be made if the Shi'ites disagree on it. Cursing the Sahaba is a disgusting sin but it doesn't make one a kafir. Don't hand out takfir statements lightly.

Great discussion_Thank s Paul

I used to think Shias were just Muslims with slightly different practices and extra reverence for Ali. The more I learned about Shiism the more I actually learned about their corruption and the lies that their leaders intentionally tell. It's really soured my outlook on them.

@rizwanramzan5729

Жыл бұрын

The shia split ORGINALLY was only a political split with the same Sunni theology. But centuries later, the shia theology CHANGED drastically and mutated into something very very very different...Today's 12ver sect is different than the Original 7th century Shias. Its kind of like the 1st century Christians(Ebionites - Law abiding of the Torah) were different than the 4th century Pauline Christians(to the present)...

@deathmarch8354

Жыл бұрын

Same bro.I hate snakes.

When conversing with shi'as, it's important to note that they consider it praiseworthy to practice taqiyya with sunnis. Considering the ayah of Quran that is their proof for the validity of practicing taqiyya, we might infer that shias do not consider sunnis as Muslims, since that verse speaks of protecting oneself by lying when faced by dire circumstances due to a disbeliever. So the most foolproof way to know their beliefs is to read their scholarly works in the language it was written (since things get omitted in translation to make it more palatable). Additionally, we know that Shias use the same Qur'an as us; the issue however is that they believe the Qur'an has been changed and that what we have currently is a perversion of the Quran. And this was the view held by many if not most of their scholars, among these being a prominent shi'i hadith compiler and a prominent shi'i Qur'an exegete.

@Sanjurocha

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false, I see 8 likes to your comment and it is sad to see that there are eight people who will believe what you say ... please watch the complete video

@isafcb312

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@@Sanjurocha it was a terrible video and the coward couldn’t commit to defend Abu bakr ra and umar Ra no mention of the mothers of Islam either may Allah deal with those who slander the sahaba and the mothers of Islam with eternal fire

@Sanjurocha

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salamaleikum brother there were exceptional Sahabas like Salman al Farsi or Jabir ibn abdullah al ansari, there were exceptional wives of the prophet like Umm salama or Khadijah etc, but many others committed faults and disobeyed our prophet SAWW, You can even find these faults in Books like Bukhari and Muslim God commands us in the Quran love for ahlulbayt: “That is of which Allah gives the good news to His servants, (to) those who believe and do good deeds. Say: I do not ask of you any reward for it but love for my near relatives; and whoever earns good, We give him more of good therein; surely Allah is Forgiving, Grateful”. It is no coincidence that you have come across this video on KZread, it is an opportunity to clarify many doubts and misunderstandings of the school of thought that follows the correct sunna of the prophet Mohammed Saww

@hashh2019

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that is a blatant lie- its not some waajib act we are asked to do. No one even talks about it in mosques and shia circles. Its just an Islamic concept to hide your faith when under persecution.

@hashh2019

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The current Quran is the Shia Quran and any book or hadith that goes against the Quran is rejected. There are innovations within Shias and idiotic people that come close to shirk but these are the black sheep (mostly pakistanis/punjabis) and the educated ones dont condone what they do. Learn Shia islam for educated scholars, not some shia weirdo cutting himself.

Ali(RA) was a sunni. ❤

@zayn3134

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Amin. Ali r.a is imam of Ahlu Sunnah wal jamah so he is sunni, but in begining shia are just political party who are say Ali r.a is beter then Uthman r.a but later came rafidah and other sect.

@abumujahid1434

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Ruling on the Rawafid Shi'ah by the Early Muslims Imam Malik: "The one who reviles the Companions of the Prophet (s) does not have any share in Islam." Jas-Sunnah 2/557] Abu Hanifah: "Whoever doubts the caliphate of Abu Bakr and 'Umar is a kafir." Jal-Sawaiq al-Muhriqh, Page: 362-363] Imam Shafi'i: "A Rafidhi will have no intercession, this is only for a Muslim." Jal-Kafaaya' 1/126) Imam Ahmad: "The Räfidah have nothing to do with Islam." [Usul as-Sunnah, Page: 82] Ibn Taymiyyah: "They are the most evil of the people of desires and deserve to be k!llëd more than al-Khawarij." [Majmoo' al-Fataawa 28/482] Imam Bukhari: "I don't see any difference between praying salah behind a Rafidhi and a Jew." Khalq Afaalul-'Ibaad, Page: 14] Imam ash-Sha'bi: "They are Jews in disguise." [as-Sunnah 1/497] Ahmad b. Yünus: "We do not eat the meat of the animal slaughtered by a Ráfidhi, because he is an apostate." (Sharh Usul tigaad Ahl ul-Sunnah 8/459)

@saidhashi2856

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It was narrated that al-Bara’ (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say: “The Ansaar: no one loves them but a believer and no one hates them but a hypocrite. Whoever loves them, Allaah will love him, and whoever hates them, Allaah will hate him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 3672; Muslim, 75. If a man who hates the Ansaar cannot be a believer and that makes him a hypocrite, then how about one who hates the Ansaar and Muhaajireen and those who followed them in truth, and slanders them, curses them and denounces them and those who love them as kaafirs - as the Raafidis do? Undoubtedly they deserve more to be regarded as kaafirs and hypocrites, and of not being believers. Al-Tahhaawi said, discussing the beliefs of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah: We love the companions of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and we do not neglect to love any one of them, nor do we disavow any one of them. We hate those who hate them and who criticize them, and we only mention them in good terms. Loving them is part of religious commitment, faith and ihsaan, and hating them is kufr, hypocrisy and wrongdoing.

@SyedAliAbbasBilgrami

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Lol. He was a Muslim. There was no Sunni Shia then. We all should shun this and become Muslims. That's the best term to be addressed with.

@comradebarry

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😂😂😂

Brother Paul I would love if this brother came back and clarified further some of the accusations because knowledge can bring us closer only to the truth

Somewhere early in the presentation he mentioned the Hadith where Prophet saws supposedly said that I leave you Qur'an and my family. Does anyone know where that Hadith is recorded? I only know for the one where he said I leave you Quran and Sunnah.

@IslamOriginal14

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Sahih Muslim and Tirmihdi

@fifafreebies8941

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sahih muslim 2408 Sunan al-Tirmidhī 3788

@fifafreebies8941

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the hadith which mentions Quran and Sunnah is not found in the 6 main books of hadith and has weak chain but u hear it all the time but the authentic version of Quran and Ahlebait (Family of Prophet) which is found in the main 6 books of hadith but you hardly ever hear it . i wonder why....

@IslamOriginal14

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@@fifafreebies8941 straight up

@IslamOriginal14

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It's a mutawatir hadith. Meaning it's narrated in many many sunni works

Shout out to my homies at Sunnah Discourse

Thank you brother Paul for an enlightening interview. To me Shias and Sunnis are Muslims but am of the view that one group shouldn't impose their credence or practices on the other, unless voluntarily. After centuries of theological "evolution" the differences I think it can be agreed are difficult to reconcile. For "lay Muslims" for want of a better phrase, might find difficulty in accepting concepts and practices different from what they have inherited for generations. In the meantime maintaining harmonious relationships between the two should be a priority.

@jannisar548

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🤣🤣

This is an important basic principle which the Muslims should understand, namely loving and respecting the Sahaabah, because that is part of faith. Hating them or hating one of them is kufr and hypocrisy, because loving them is part of loving the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and hating them is part of hating the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Sharh al-‘Aqeedah al-Waasitiyyah. Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan said: The way of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah is to love the family (ahl al-bayt) of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Naasibis love the Sahaabah but hate the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), hence they were called Naasibis because they set themselves up (nasb) as enemies of the family of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). The Raafidis are the opposite: they love the Prophet’s family (ahl al-bayt) - or so they claim, but they hate the Sahaabah, whom they curse, denounce as kaafirs and criticize. Whoever hates the Sahaabah hates Islam, because they are the bearers of Islam and the followers of the Chosen Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). So whoever hates them hates Islam, and this indicates that there is no faith in the hearts of such people and that they do not love Islam.

@isafcb312

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Agree, cursing the sahaba and mothers of Islam will lead you only to hell fire