Here is the answer! The meaning of the symbol is explained in this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hmZkpbawqK6secY.html

@sqrsaga7470

7 ай бұрын

@@wiseferret4745screenshot it, go to your photos, and you can use the link that way

@nukeberzerk134

7 ай бұрын

​@@wiseferret4745 kzread.info

@nukeberzerk134

7 ай бұрын

​@@wiseferret4745smh I tried

@randallholloway8686

7 ай бұрын

I can't click on this and I refuse to type it out on mobile soooo, gonna assume there is no secret and it was just a cool art choice they rinsed and repeated. Or, "snake derp derp"

@user-zp8kj2cl9g

7 ай бұрын

Link not working on mobile, lads

Me, a few weeks back: well, it's a, uh, a cool spiral I guess? Me after watching the iceberg: IT'S THE SNEK

@ernestodarenal3123

7 ай бұрын

ssssneK😂

@appleseedtrees7512

7 ай бұрын

It is pretty cool how dumb the average ER player is

@sebakisniesebakisnie6109

7 ай бұрын

its not a spiral its a helise

@MikeHunt-lz2hq

6 ай бұрын

​@@sebakisniesebakisnie6109no it's a double helix which is basically two spirals intertwined

@sebakisniesebakisnie6109

6 ай бұрын

@@MikeHunt-lz2hq intertwined like me and your mom last night AYOOOOOO

Placidusax when you enter his arena: Do you mind, I'm trying to be subtly symbolic, here!

@davysamir2289

7 ай бұрын

Exactly what I just wanted to type

@xxlazylamaxx8378

2 ай бұрын

Golden ratio

@Anonymous_Whisper

Ай бұрын

He was the 5 fingers. Now he is only two

@oso_kn

22 күн бұрын

@@Anonymous_Whispershutcho stupid ahh up

@YRO.

4 күн бұрын

​@@xxlazylamaxx8378Arigato, Gyro

"It's the hair braids. Fromsoft put them in as a hidden lore symbol." "Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?"

@whyarewestillhere7073

Ай бұрын

haha also hair braids are three strands not two

@kommiekoathanger1418

29 күн бұрын

@@whyarewestillhere7073 actually hair braids can be two strands and all the ones in the video look like they're only 2 strands so it would fit with the recurring imagery

@user-lm7vq9qb3r

29 күн бұрын

@@kommiekoathanger1418 thats 3 strands

@whyarewestillhere7073

29 күн бұрын

@@kommiekoathanger1418 just checked again and it's always 3. Also the "crown" part of the leyndell helmets at 0:47 is 3 strands aswell

@kommiekoathanger1418

29 күн бұрын

@@whyarewestillhere7073 shiit you right

Did you notice how much bersek music shows up? Hiding in plain sight.

@Rakshael

7 ай бұрын

what song is this?

@mverheul6235

7 ай бұрын

​@@Rakshaelidk but check the berserk soundtrack

@jamesmiles1359

7 ай бұрын

It's Behelit by Susumu Hirawasa

@CelticDad2022

7 ай бұрын

Thought I was the only one that noticed!!

@Skungeasaur

7 ай бұрын

@@CelticDad2022 Fellow struggler < 3

Now that the dlc is out, we know: it’s the spiral. The symbol of the crucible. The primordial version of the erdtree. What the hornsent used to worship.

@BigMoney_L

10 күн бұрын

What marika wishes to completely purge but seemingly can't

@thalmorjusticiar1

9 күн бұрын

@@BigMoney_L honestly fair though, the hornsent were putting her entire people in jars and grafting them together

@TheVagabondGadite

22 сағат бұрын

The only true God. Like the God of Israel.

@theophany4935

9 сағат бұрын

Crucible = Evolution Spiral = DNA

SPIRAL ENERGY! MY DRILL WILL BE THE DRILL THAT PIERCES THE HEAVENS!!!!!

@OtakuUnitedStudio

5 ай бұрын

ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWER

@Lonewander

4 ай бұрын

JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!?

@Entropydemic

4 ай бұрын

I don't know the reference but I immediately thought of Devil Kings on PlayStation 2.

@tomdowd7407

4 ай бұрын

​@Entropydemic it's a Gurren Lagan reference lol

@plag_.

Ай бұрын

JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK I AM? I'M SIMON! I'M NOT MY BRO, I'M ME! SIMON THE DIGGER!!!

Wait till bro discovers DNA 😂

@userjb1yb5yq3t

4 ай бұрын

The game uses that analogy too actually

@Kn1ghtborne

4 ай бұрын

That's the first thing I said when I saw this. Might be symbolic of DNA somehow but I want to see if the dlc brings more to light

@victorblh2fknji

2 ай бұрын

​@@userjb1yb5yq3t Thanks

@L8dy_Grae

Ай бұрын

My first thought too.

@strawberrygemz2020

20 күн бұрын

Wait till bro decides to read an item description for the first time and realizes that it's just the Crucible

It’s meaning was revealed in dlc, the spiral means divinity

Berserk ost 🗿

@MarztheStoic

7 ай бұрын

Breath taking.

@Rananas09

4 ай бұрын

​@MarztheStoic fr

@acacamy

4 ай бұрын

Crying in the inside hearing that beauty of a melody

@cjred136

4 ай бұрын

🥹

@SketchySkullKnight

2 ай бұрын

Man I love this song. Behelit for anyone wondering

Everyone knows Miyazaki loves two things; Feet and Berserk, and he's all out of Berserk

The Haligtree was an attempt at a double helix, but one half never formed because of Mohg's intervention. It appears that Godwyn's Deathroot fills that void in the DLC image and completes the intertwining of Life and Death.

@mrjooxmanallah

6 ай бұрын

Wait…so Miquella was in on the “Night of Black Knives”???

@teenageboyhormonalrage

6 ай бұрын

@@mrjooxmanallahhe very well could have been, considering his rivalry with the erdtree and his empyrean status

@ramoraid

5 ай бұрын

@@mrjooxmanallah I doubt he was, he has shown to be very empathetic towards others and he wouldn't like to harm his older brother Godwyn.

@ezachleewright2309

5 ай бұрын

​@@ramoraidHe adored Godwyn as well, and after Godwyn was slain, Miquella wanted Godwyn to die a true death. This is the item description for the Golden Epitaph sword: A sword made to commemorate the death of Godwyn the Golden, first of the demigods to die. Infused with the humble prayer of a young boy; "O brother, lord brother, please die a true death.""

@thecommentguy9380

4 ай бұрын

​@@ezachleewright2309Miquella had 2 plans for Godwyn, first was by trying to resurrect his soul by a ritual in Castle Sol. It's likely that after learning he couldn't get an eclipse to complete the ritual because Radahn was holding the stars, he opted to making the Golden Epitaph in hope of at least granting Godwyn the peace of true death

Now we know! It’s the Crucible’s primeval current. The original object of worship before Marika’s Erdtree

The fingerslayer blade looks like it was once a person too

@pedro_oak_alexandre

7 ай бұрын

Holyshit...

@michaelhenry3234

7 ай бұрын

@@pedro_oak_alexandre It's a common theory. The only other corpse-blade that looks like that is Radagon's, and we know the Eternal Cities committed "high treason" against the Greater Will, so it follows that perhaps their treason was killing a previous god.

@YeprilesteR

7 ай бұрын

🦉​@@michaelhenry3234

@tyroplaysYT

7 ай бұрын

​@@michaelhenry3234god of rot? God of death?

@CrescentCrusader99

7 ай бұрын

@@tyroplaysYT probably another Numen like Marika.

Lead Design, after watching this: “Huh. I really do tend to gravitate towards the spiral, don’t I?”

@kinguchiha6212

19 күн бұрын

This is the comment I was looking for 🤣🤣🤣

Well, well, well! I bet you feel vindicated now after the DLC confirmed this pattern's importance and meaning!

Well, the double helix is the Caduceus, symbol of alchemy and hermeticism, these together being the biggest influences of Elden Ring.

@alexspyropoulos6

7 ай бұрын

This along with the ideas of the crucible making primal life through double helix dna/magic of alchemy, a parallel to real life the devs might try and make

@MrsSankta

5 ай бұрын

Its also the tree from berserk, the actual biggest inspiration

@Th3ba1r0n

3 ай бұрын

There’s a lot of plant mythology and botanical references. O_O

@empyrealcultist1992

3 ай бұрын

Facts, beat me too the berserk is the true ​biggest inspiration @@MrsSankta

@tatuvarvemaa5314

20 күн бұрын

It could also be Celtic in nature. Celtic are the culture this kind of symbology originates from, the Celtic knot. Same thing with Scandinavic folklore which used similar knotted designs in their written stones, which are literally called 'Rune(s)'. And if you look at the over all style and setting of the game it is extremely Celtic/pre-christian European. I feel like these are no coincidence, and I love it. These cultures are absolute gold.

I made a post last week about helices being literally everywhere on the elden ring reddit! Once I started to notice them I was losing my mind at how frequently I would start to see them-in architecture, in weapons, in armor, in items, in spells. @Hawkshaw I would love love love a full video delving into the helix lore/symbolism. I think it speaks to something fundamental, outside of the Golden Order or any order. Like gravity or time. Maybe duality itself is the deeper fundamental truth of the Lands Between. The instances of twins in inherent opposition. Even the domains of Marika and Gloam-Eyed Queen seem to be fundamentally opposed.

@YeprilesteR

7 ай бұрын

Hah this is like spirals in Uzumaki

@Odin_Oracle

5 ай бұрын

They also sometimes plays with the ideas of dual identity. An individuals dual personas that completely contradicts the other, yet they’re so opposed that they can be considered the same. E.G - like how it is implied there were no conflicts between Frenzied flame and the order of the Erdtree before. Back when there was no order, and when there was no frenzied flame. In fact, they were all one. Then something happened that split the two down the middle, leading to two forces with completely opposing ideals - creating Marika’s order and the Frenzied flame, even though they were once the same thing together. This duality could be said about a lot of things: the creation Godfrey completely contradicts Hoarah Loux actual morals, The Beast Clergyman is suffering identity disorder despite his other half being one of the greatest warriors of the lands between, Morgott and Mohg being twins also reinforces the fact that they each have opposing rules when it comes to Omenborn even though they’re both omen (this one in particular is definitely a GRRM thing lol) Which is also why I find it fun that you suggest the contrast Between Marika and the Dusk Queen…. Because I actually think they are the same person. Or atleast twins of some sorts, but their ideals differ too heavily to be indifferent to one another. Often it is those who you disagree with the most are the ones you have the most in common with. Refer back to the Golden Order and the Frenzied Flame

You could probably find a lot of circles if you look for those too

@zackprater2540

3 ай бұрын

Ever notice that Elden Ring has a lot of rings in it?

@Reni3r

2 ай бұрын

@@zackprater2540 Nono, it has ALL the rings it. Hands down best game because of that.

@animeworld5847

23 күн бұрын

@@Reni3r Spider intensifies

Yes, duality is the theme of Elden Ring

post dlc, I think the Spira incantation along with the Hornsents lore makes me believe that the spiral is an attempt at communion with the Outer Gods, or the Greater will.

Bolt of Gransax.

All things can be conjoined?

@Skungeasaur

7 ай бұрын

Turtle Pope.

@KuraSourTakanHour

20 күн бұрын

Reminds me of the crucible. All life there is connected, and through order Marika created the idea it was seperate or inferior but it is an illusion

Hawkshaw is always ahead of his time !!!! The spiral is very prevalent in Shadow of the Erdtree!!!!

In the dlc you find the Spiral spell, where it says that it takes inspiration from the Divine Tower built to reach the very Gods. In the Corrupted perfumer armor it says that it represent the Erdtree. So, it most likely represent the Erdtree, and when the first ever divine tower was built in the Shadow Realm, it was meant to represent it, becoming so a divine commemoration that everyone admired. Wether the tree was seen as Mother of the Crucible or where the Order resides, it meant a lot for every person in the land. Hence all the inspired twirling designs. At least, that's my guess

You know for an order that hates the crucible they sure like to employ literal soldiers who served the crucible and put a spiral in everything

I think the double helix represents the laws of Regression and Causality, and as such is why it shows up in so many different places and cultures, specifically things relevant to life, death, beginnings, or finality such as the Crucible (source of all life) or in the Godslaying weapons (the end of an eternal being) The shape is comprised of 2 spirals, representing the Causal relationship between all things, and they're forever chasing each other but never converging, i.e. Regression

He did predict this detail before the DLC

@ruggedkoala3958

17 күн бұрын

right pretty cool that it has lore significance now

I love this track! Behelit. I had it on a constant loop when i read Berserk. For me it's the theme to the series, even more than "Guts' song" !

Kendrick: it's inside my DNA

Dlc finally explained it.

Let’s try spinning! That’s a good trick!

I think it symbolises change, often threat, to the greater will. The Oracles, Miquella's Needle, the Elden Lords, Godslayer Greatsword, just makes sense

Man you blew my mind all those years ago with your dark souls video explaining the flower motifs, u still got u you legend

Owl father’s hair was the Elden ring reference the whole time

The background berserk theme is giving me goosebumps

Well the DLC finally explains it! Crazy because it seemed like something that would never be explained but now it has.

From what I understand, FromSoft games don't exactly do traditional storytelling in video games like what God of War or Mass Effect does, and it's not really something like Planescape Torment or Fallout 1 either. Instead, it's just a fuck ton of vague environmental storytelling with a few snippets of actual exposition and history, and a shit ton of cool looking visuals that express themes in real life. Elden Ring dabbles in non-duality. The belief that two separate things are not separate at all, and are in fact the same thing, the most literal example being the queen and Radagon being the same exact homie. Mohg's weird fetus brother wife comes off as androgynous. The common visual queue for non-duality seems to be two things coiling, or even two beings infused together. Some of the Fingers may give different abilities with different concepts crucial to their beliefs, but they ultimately carry the same theme of corruption, so even though we have a bunch of separate powers at play, it's still all meant to be the same core power at the end of the day.

For those wondering: read the description of the incantation Spira

It's the spiral of the crucible

It symbolizes the Crucible (akin to the force in concept) which is the coalescance of primordial energy. The spiral wether ascending or descending is seen as the process of all life. The hornsent were a chosen people who abused that notion, bringing about their very own downfall

Twinned fates, is my bet. The idea of opposites needing each other to both exist

You need to watch Gurren Lagann. The spiral is a circle that moves forward with each rotation.

The sword that was once radagon was a call I wasn't expecting, not lying, but it makes sense

Dlc seems to tell us with spira that it’s a way to call to the gods

Something twisting upon itself often symbolizes strength and durability

The Godslayer Greatswords are made of Moonlight Butterflies.

Some tool fan in the distance: hnnnghnnn SPIRALS

@LesBaronessPurdue

2 ай бұрын

And EYES! SPIRALS and EYES! And the spaces between the strands of the spirals are shaped like eyes! It all ties together. Ties together like a braid! And braids are a SPIRAL! SPIRALS! And EYES! SPIRALS and EYES! And the spaces between the strands of the spirals are shaped like eyes! It all ties together. Ties together like a braid! And braids are a SPIRAL! SPIRALS! And EYES! SPIRALS and EYES! And the spaces between the strands of the spirals are shaped like eyes! It all ties together. Ties together like a braid! And braids are a SPIRAL! SPIRALS! And EYES! SPIRALS and EYES! And the spaces between the strands of the spirals are shaped like eyes! It all ties together. Ties together like a braid! And braids are a SPIRAL! SPIRALS! And EYES!....... ‹Spirals into madness› 😆

@shadowmystery5613

2 ай бұрын

@@LesBaronessPurdue The manga Uzumaki from Junji Ito can further help you with that obsession xD

Spiral power!!! “PIERCE THE HEAVENS GURREN LAGANN!!”

This aged like fine wine, considering the meaning of spirals in the DLC.

As soon as I heard Behelit playing in the background, I subbed.

Idk if I’d necessarily consider things like the hairstyles or when it was vertically around the helmet. Having a braided crown thing like that is a pretty common hairstyle and especially in fantasy games. But I guess now I must watch the vid to get the full lore

Duality Elden ring is about duality

Tfw one guy at FromSoft just thinks spirals are really neat 👀 Edit: 🤦🏻 double helixes....ffs

Now, after the dlc, we know it means divinity

My best guess is it represents the eternal life of the gods. With the godlslayers greatsword using it almost to mock the lives of gods. Placidusax's remaining 2 heads are also in this position. Which makes sense for a lord who rests in the eye of a storm beyond time. The symbol represents the eternal cycle of the gods as they never truly die.

Usually the symbolism behind the serpent is about ciclicity of time as gnostics belived, or healing as egyptian thought. But it is also an animal correlated to creation/fertility and Metamorphosis. And all these holy characters have snakes on their outfits probably due to a healing and metamorphosis meaning.

dude theres literally spiral incantations now

Now with dlc this makes more sense, because hornsent folk believed that this symbol (spiral called in game) represents crucible and its divine. And i guess people of Lands Between inherent this symbol while Realm of Shadow was part of continent

MARIKA, GUIDE MY BLADE

Read the spiral sorceries and incantations from the DLC

It's called a Helix... look it up.

Its not a snake thing, its the influence and roots of the Cruicible in everything. The Cruicible, and its spiral current is the primordial cosmic force and latent power that created all living things in the Lands Between. Its basically "The Source"

Seems like a representation of duality, a reference to the golden order really and therefore order in general I say

I think this symbolism must be a reference to the perfection in duality, in alchemy, genres are represented as the sun and moon, and the merge of both is a perfect being. As marika and radagon, and the helix in everything else.

I believe it's about duality, plain and simple. Order and Chaos. Then you also have dual characters like Marika/Radagon, Miquella/St. Trina, Melina/Messmer (possibly).

POV: your buddy just realized how much symbolism is in a FromSoftware game

Guessing it represents the crucible tree. Those spiralling sprouts which united as one. Even the energy blast of the Crucible spear has a spiralling shape.

@KC-um7wn

21 күн бұрын

Mf was so close even before the dlc came out

It's the Crucible. Probably because it's DNA

It seems we might now know the answer

Those are multiple different symbols expressing the relationship between the struggles of opposing orders in a given possible arrangement. If the two points come together into a point that is different than if they open up like in the godslayers great sword or if they stay in sync like in the glintstone helix spell.

Maybe it represents Marika and Radagon , 2 strands of 1 braid, causality and regression (as vaati vidya says)

What's interesting to me about this is the fact the hornsent use spiral incantations

It's the symbol used in alchemy, yes. The symbol that represents what Alchemy aspired to: gold transmutation

The Erdtree/Crucible and its twin the Shadowtree? Honestly duality is a huge theme in Elden Ring, it could be SO many things.

I believe it’s a reference to the spiral of the crucible the primal form of the Erdtree

... seems maybe... it's a spiral

I bet you can also find it in the primal Elden Ring of Farun Azula

Knowing now that the spiral is favored as a symbol of the Greater Will by the Hornsent, can we then assume that the Hornsent are the foundational culture of humans in the lands between? Or is it possible that these different groups have also witnessed the true form of divinity, the spiral, which Marika and the fingers tried so desperately to replace?

Thanks mate one youtube short is gonna make me watch Berserk from start to finish again.

You play any music from berserk and I instantly start listening

Spirals are sometimes seen as representations of life and nature. You can even find the in nature. Galaxies, snail shells, the Golden Ratio, flower petals, even DNA.

Junji Ito levels of cosmic horror.

DID YOU KNOW THAT... Bill Nye the science guy

The berserk music gives me chills everytime

Kinda awesome how the Onyx Blade in DS3 was just some cool 1-off sword with black fire, that then went on to inspire multiple weapons and and entire iconography in Elden Ring. Easily the coolest weapon in the game

Seeing this short after the dlc trailer dropped is giving me conniptions

For me, it represents the destiny of every living being intertwined.

when elden ring development first annoucement came out I remember reading that at first it was being inspired in celtic aesthethic and mythology

It’s means they needed something to fill the voided space, so they said “we’ll just scribble it in like we’re testing a new ballpoint pen.”

With the dlc it is now explained.

I think the answer you are looking for is in the Spira incantation.

Spirals vs Anti-Spirals, the war continues

I want wings.

I love the fact you don't hype people up with misinterpreted lore. There is so many attention-seeking "lore explorers" on youtube and they just constantly speculate nonesense.

@kohrak123

7 ай бұрын

Hackshaw is the literal worst when it comes to that, though.

@LeggoMyGekko

3 ай бұрын

@@kohrak123in my experience he tends to just present objective in-game evidence, then make connections, but uses phrasing like “could this mean…”, “what appears to be…”, “almost like…”, “what if…” etc. which makes it clear any of the connections he’s presenting are just theories, he doesn’t try to assert any of it as objective fact aside from the things that are actually in the game. Meanwhile some other creators will phrase things like “this clearly…”, “this can mean nothing but…”, “all the evidence points to…”, and will base their theories on theories, as in, using conclusions they’ve come to as evidence for new conclusions, which can lead one to “spiral” in one sense of the word, lol.

Hair: exists The community: it's a miracle !!

Ah yes the hidden lore of Elden Ring, testicular torsion

All things can be conjoined. - Miriel, Pastor of Vows

Its the same as tasha's "You know i really like this change"

Yeah we used to draw it on our desks at school all the time